Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
I have discovered, with help form Bernhard Voelker, a user of
openSUSE, that the version of findutils that I am using (4.4.2)
contains a bug that explains crashes in my use case. He is using
(4.5.12) and recommends =(4.5.10)

I have attempted to use wheezy-backports using instructions at:
http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

I have wheezy-backports in my sources.list.
I have run apt-get update, but I get

root@big:/etc/apt# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install findutils 
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 72 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, 
Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?
An alternative source of findutils that fits with Wheezy? Where? How?

TIA
-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411152349.gb5...@big.lan.gnu



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Apr 2014 at 09:23:49 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

 root@big:/etc/apt# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install findutils 
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 72 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 
 This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, 
 Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?
 An alternative source of findutils that fits with Wheezy? Where? How?

https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/11042014163849.b318d6f94...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 April 2014 16:23:49 Paul E Condon wrote:
 This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help,
 Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?

There is no findutils package in Wheezy backports.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=findutilssearchon=namessection=allsuite=wheezy-backports

I will let others more knowledgeable than I suggest the best 
alternative - but things that appear worth exploring are using a 
Jessie package, or compiling a later version of findutils from 
source.

Lisi


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201404111642.05689.lisi.re...@gmail.com



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Martin Read

On 11/04/14 16:23, Paul E Condon wrote:

This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help,
Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?
An alternative source of findutils that fits with Wheezy? Where? How?


You don't appear to have made a mistake.

As Lisi Reisz notes, findutils is not in wheezy-backports. A search on 
packages.debian.org reveals that a package of findutils 4.5.12 was 
created for experimental on 2013-09-28, but for whatever reason the 
maintainer has not acted to put any of the 4.5.x versions (the first 
4.5.x version to land in experimental was 4.5.7, created on 2010-04-03) 
of findutils into unstable.




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53481140.1020...@zen.co.uk



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1639+0100, Brian wrote:
 On Fri 11 Apr 2014 at 09:23:49 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
  root@big:/etc/apt# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install findutils 
  No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
  0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 72 not upgraded.
  Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
  
  This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, 
  Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?
  An alternative source of findutils that fits with Wheezy? Where? How?
 
 https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Thanks for the link. 
It appears to me that findutils verision is also (4.4.2) in both
Jessie *and* Sid. I'd volunteer to help, but very mistake prone.

Best regards,
-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411161632.gc5...@big.lan.gnu



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Florian Ernst
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Martin Read wrote:
 As Lisi Reisz notes, findutils is not in wheezy-backports. A search on
 packages.debian.org reveals that a package of findutils 4.5.12 was created
 for experimental on 2013-09-28, but for whatever reason the maintainer has
 not acted to put any of the 4.5.x versions (the first 4.5.x version to land
 in experimental was 4.5.7, created on 2010-04-03) of findutils into
 unstable.

findutils 4.5.x is considered alpha by its developers. As such, the
Debian package maintainer understandably only uploads those releases to
experimental.

The latest upstream release still is 4.4.2, cf.
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/findutils/
http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/findutils/

@Paul: Has the bug you encountered already been reported to the BTS? If
so, you might want to add some detail to it, e.g. the hint that it is
supposedly fixed in 4.5.10. If not, you might want to file a bugreport.

HTH,
Flo


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411165302.ga...@fernst.no-ip.org



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1853+0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Martin Read wrote:
  As Lisi Reisz notes, findutils is not in wheezy-backports. A search on
  packages.debian.org reveals that a package of findutils 4.5.12 was created
  for experimental on 2013-09-28, but for whatever reason the maintainer has
  not acted to put any of the 4.5.x versions (the first 4.5.x version to land
  in experimental was 4.5.7, created on 2010-04-03) of findutils into
  unstable.
 
 findutils 4.5.x is considered alpha by its developers. As such, the
 Debian package maintainer understandably only uploads those releases to
 experimental.
 
 The latest upstream release still is 4.4.2, cf.
 http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/findutils/
 http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/findutils/
 
 @Paul: Has the bug you encountered already been reported to the BTS? If
 so, you might want to add some detail to it, e.g. the hint that it is
 supposedly fixed in 4.5.10. If not, you might want to file a bugreport.
 
 HTH,
 Flo

I have been pursuing a multitrack approach on this. Things happened
faster on this issue on the non-Debian track. I don't know if its been
reported on Debian BTS, but from another track I already know that it
is already fixed in (4.5.10) and has been established as present in
(4.4.2) (both by an openSUSE user). I will file a bugreport.

Thanks,
-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411173513.gd5...@big.lan.gnu



Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1642+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Friday 11 April 2014 16:23:49 Paul E Condon wrote:
  This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help,
  Or did I make a mistake? What mistake?
 
 There is no findutils package in Wheezy backports.
 
 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=findutilssearchon=namessection=allsuite=wheezy-backports
 
 I will let others more knowledgeable than I suggest the best 
 alternative - but things that appear worth exploring are using a 
 Jessie package, or compiling a later version of findutils from 
 source.
 
 Lisi

I've found that there was a bug report that I did not realize was
related to the symptoms I was experiencing. The action taken way back
when was to refer the problem to upstream. Now, today, the fix is
ready and waiting upstream. The best alternative for me, now, is to
let the system work. (Jessie and Sid are also a v 4.4.2) I don't
usually succeed the first time I try something new to me like building
a Debian package from foreign source code.

Thanks, I'm happy.
-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140411181604.ge5...@big.lan.gnu