Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 04:22:50PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> I think this depends entirely on the Release Managers and the Security
> Team if they allow new upstream versions to fix security bugs instead
> of backporting the fixes to the original version in a release.
> 
> Until now IIRC only Firefox and Chromium and MySQL (since remove and
> replaced by MariaDB) had such an exception.

This has also happened with BIND, PostgreSQL, and Samba.  With Samba,
we've even had major feature changes in the middle of a stable release. :(

> Time will tell if the same is granted to Virtualbox.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Sven Hartge]

The Wanderer  wrote:
> On 2017-08-11 at 07:18, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Robert Menes  wrote:
 
>>> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or
>>> buster yet?
>> 
>> Short Answer: Because of Oracle.
>> 
>> Longer Answer:
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466
>> 
>> Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in
>> Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.

> Today, I noticed that the virtualbox* packages are available in
> testing again (when they showed up to be upgraded as part of a routine
> dist-upgrade).

> Per the latest comment on that bug report, three days ago, it's been
> downgraded in severity so that these packages can be in testing until
> the situation can be re-evaluated at the time of the next release
> freeze.

> Whether this will actually be permitted to persist until then, or be
> reversed by people who disagree with the rationale, is an open
> question - but for the time being, this seems to be available again.

I think this depends entirely on the Release Managers and the Security
Team if they allow new upstream versions to fix security bugs instead
of backporting the fixes to the original version in a release.

Until now IIRC only Firefox and Chromium and MySQL (since remove and
replaced by MariaDB) had such an exception.

Time will tell if the same is granted to Virtualbox.

Grüße,
S°

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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-08-11 at 07:18, Sven Hartge wrote:

> Robert Menes  wrote:
> 
>> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or 
>> buster yet?
> 
> Short Answer: Because of Oracle.
> 
> Longer Answer:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466
> 
> Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in 
> Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.

Today, I noticed that the virtualbox* packages are available in testing
again (when they showed up to be upgraded as part of a routine
dist-upgrade).

Per the latest comment on that bug report, three days ago, it's been
downgraded in severity so that these packages can be in testing until
the situation can be re-evaluated at the time of the next release freeze.

Whether this will actually be permitted to persist until then, or be
reversed by people who disagree with the rationale, is an open question
- but for the time being, this seems to be available again.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Dejan Jocic]

On 22-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> On 08/18/2017 10:25 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> > > On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > > > RavenLX  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
> > > > > frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that
> > > > > it would be back in Debian.
> > > > 
> > > > Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released
> > > > and distributed by them.
> > > > 
> > > > Grüße,
> > > > Sven.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that 
> > > will
> > > allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and to be
> > > able to go between both quickly (I don't have a dual-screen system - no 
> > > room
> > > where I live for that). If I could find something that would work I'd
> > > switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far more features I guess
> > > (I don't know what though).
> > > 
> > 
> > qemu-kvm does not serve your needs? You can use it with GUI friendly
> > virt-manager, or from command line. And switching between host and guest
> > is switching between windows. As for shared directory, NFS?
> 
> The shared directory has to be a directory on the host (ie. ext4 is what I'm
> using). VirtualBox lets me share as many directories as I like and lets me
> specify which ones. I think I tried qemu and kvm and didn't even know how to
> use it or where to begin. I might have to revisit that sometime especially
> if I get tired of VirtualBox.
> 

Hmm, I was curious to see if it can be done with qemu-kvm. It can and is
not really hard. At least not with virt-manager, did not check on
command line. Anyway, just as a note if you decide to use it.

Once you make and open your VM, go to view, details, add hardware
button, file system, select folder for source ( like /home/something on
your host ), select folder for destination ( something on your guest
like example ), then mount that example where you want on your guest.
You just need to get right mount command, this is from qemu wiki:

mount -t 9p -o trans=virtio [mount tag] [mount point] -oversion=9p2000.L

Here is that page for further reading:

http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/9psetup

And here is with bit less reading and illustrated from kvm:

http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/9p_virtio

Personally, I do not have use for shared files between host and guest,
but hope that this can help you.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[RavenLX]

On 08/18/2017 10:25 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:

On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote:

On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

RavenLX  wrote:


I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that
it would be back in Debian.


Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released
and distributed by them.

Grüße,
Sven.



I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that will
allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and to be
able to go between both quickly (I don't have a dual-screen system - no room
where I live for that). If I could find something that would work I'd
switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far more features I guess
(I don't know what though).



qemu-kvm does not serve your needs? You can use it with GUI friendly
virt-manager, or from command line. And switching between host and guest
is switching between windows. As for shared directory, NFS?


The shared directory has to be a directory on the host (ie. ext4 is what 
I'm using). VirtualBox lets me share as many directories as I like and 
lets me specify which ones. I think I tried qemu and kvm and didn't even 
know how to use it or where to begin. I might have to revisit that 
sometime especially if I get tired of VirtualBox.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-19 20:47 +0200 Gilles Mocellin 
wrote:
>Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look into libvirt in the
unlikely case that my current approach becomes insufficient in the future.
So far it works fine.

Regards.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:02:58AM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> >Which TUI/GUI do you use?
> 
> I do not know what is TUI.

Text User Interface / command line.


> I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts
> that call QEMU with the required options and I use “qemu-img” from the
> command line when needed.

Hm. Nice way to go.


> >I've been struggling to create a Host-only network. In VirtualBox
> >(and VMWare from version 1 or very early) I could basically just
> >tick a check box for "Host only network", and name one or more shared
> >folders.
> 
> The easiest way to do this in QEMU is to use the “-net
> user,restrict=on,hostfwd=...” option. The hostfwd part is optional, but you
> will require if you want host–guest network connectivity.
> 
> This way, networking is handled in user space. A more efficient approach
> is to use kernel-managed networking. It is my understanding that for this,
> one may use the TUN and TAP virtual Linux devices, but I have never done
> it.

Some years back I was using OpenVPN for a while, so got a little
experience with TAP back then.


> >I realise I probably have to mount the SAMBA horse again. And for
> >libre software, I'm willing to do all this.
> 
> Why do you want to use SAMBA? Install a SSH server in the guest and access
> it from the host using scp, sftp or rsync. Rsync is the most efficient.

This sounds like a great idea! SAMBA's brittleness in configuration
(due to my dunceness) when trying to make it work with XP, W7 or now
it would be W10 in the VM, has just never been a comfortable easy
thing, for me.

Years ago I even ran cygwin sshd from memory - but I'm certain
there's cygwin ssh client, so I could use that even from the Windows
side. Thank you very much for the reminder :)

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le samedi 19 août 2017, 17:02:23 CEST Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> Which TUI/GUI do you use?

Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>Which TUI/GUI do you use?

I do not know what is TUI. I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts
that call QEMU with the required options and I use “qemu-img” from the
command line when needed.

>I've been struggling to create a Host-only network. In VirtualBox
>(and VMWare from version 1 or very early) I could basically just
>tick a check box for "Host only network", and name one or more shared
>folders.

The easiest way to do this in QEMU is to use the “-net
user,restrict=on,hostfwd=...” option. The hostfwd part is optional, but you
will require if you want host–guest network connectivity.

This way, networking is handled in user space. A more efficient approach
is to use kernel-managed networking. It is my understanding that for this,
one may use the TUN and TAP virtual Linux devices, but I have never done
it.

>I realise I probably have to mount the SAMBA horse again. And for
>libre software, I'm willing to do all this.

Why do you want to use SAMBA? Install a SSH server in the guest and access
it from the host using scp, sftp or rsync. Rsync is the most efficient.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience
> >with, just read the manuals.  Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but
> >that was years ago.  Maybe, they're easier to set up and use now..
> 
> QEMU has been well documented for as long as I have cared to read
> its documentation, which is at least 5 years. Of course, anything but the
> most basic software is hard to “set up and use” if you do not read he
> manual.

Which TUI/GUI do you use?

I've been struggling to create a Host-only network. In VirtualBox
(and VMWare from version 1 or very early) I could basically just
tick a check box for "Host only network", and name one or more shared
folders.

I realise I probably have to mount the SAMBA horse again. And for
libre software, I'm willing to do all this.

My most recent trial was just pre-Debian 9.0 - I could not get the
dual monitor setup working properly (SPICE) - the mouse was the deal
breaker, just repeating over the first "virtual monitor"'s window,
and having traversed it the second time (left to right), would pop
out the RHS of the RHS virtual monitor window. Last night I had the
thought that perhaps I can just stretch the first window the full
width of my two monitors (and rotate my portrait monitor back to
landscape, so that I can use all my real estate.

I'm pretty sure I could get everything working properly yet - it just
takes the time, and in the mean time my life has caught up with me
again, and so again I'm VM-less since Virtualbox stopped working
quite a few months ago (forget why - it didn't get updated for a
while to match some debian kernel or something - this might have been
Oracle virtualbox, I don't recall sorry...)

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:23:13 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro
 wrote:

> On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real
> >experience with, just read the manuals.  Never cared much for QEMU
> >or kvm, but that was years ago.  Maybe, they're easier to set up and
> >use now..
> 
> QEMU has been well documented for as long as I have cared to read
> its documentation, which is at least 5 years. Of course, anything but
> the most basic software is hard to “set up and use” if you do not
> read he manual.

I assure you I have studied the manuals.  And I do try to keep up if
only casually.  I started investigating emulators and VMs 10 or so years
ago as an alternative to mulitbooting for testing and evaluating various
Linux distros. Ultimately that investigation lead to my choosing
Virtualbox. Been using it ever since.

B

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek  wrote:
>There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience
>with, just read the manuals.  Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but
>that was years ago.  Maybe, they're easier to set up and use now..

QEMU has been well documented for as long as I have cared to read
its documentation, which is at least 5 years. Of course, anything but the
most basic software is hard to “set up and use” if you do not read he
manual.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:19:53 -0400 RavenLX 
wrote:

> On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX 
> > wrote:
> >> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something
> >> that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual
> >> machine, and to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a
> >> dual-screen system
> >> - no room where I live for that). If I could find something that
> >> would work I'd switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far
> >> more features I guess (I don't know what though).
> > 
> > Virtualbox has shared folders (directory) as well as shared
> > Clipboard. You just need to install Guest Additions in the Guest OS
> > to enable it. I use both all the time.
> > 
> > VB has a lot of other features.  Just read the manual.
> > 
> > B
> 
> I know, I use the shared folders and clipboard in VirtualBox all the 
> time. But with the way Oracle seems to be going with things, what if 
> someone wants to switch *away* from VirtualBox and use something
> else? What other VM systems have these same features (which I really
> need)?

There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience
with, just read the manuals.  Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but
that was years ago.  Maybe, they're easier to set up and use now..

B

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-18 18:19 -0400 RavenLX  wrote:
>On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> Virtualbox has shared folders (directory) as well as shared Clipboard.
>> You just need to install Guest Additions in the Guest OS to enable it.
>> I use both all the time.
>
>[elided]
>
>What other VM systems have these same features (which I really need)?

I have never used it, so I do not know how it works with practice,
I think that connecting to QEMU using SPICE (instead of SSH or VNC)
gives a shared clipboard among many other convenience features. Refer to
the QEMU manual for details.

Regards.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[RavenLX]

On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX 
wrote:

I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something
that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual
machine, and to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a
dual-screen system
- no room where I live for that). If I could find something that
would work I'd switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far
more features I guess (I don't know what though).


Virtualbox has shared folders (directory) as well as shared Clipboard.
You just need to install Guest Additions in the Guest OS to enable it.
I use both all the time.

VB has a lot of other features.  Just read the manual.

B


I know, I use the shared folders and clipboard in VirtualBox all the 
time. But with the way Oracle seems to be going with things, what if 
someone wants to switch *away* from VirtualBox and use something else? 
What other VM systems have these same features (which I really need)?

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-18 09:31 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro 
wrote:
>I recommend QEMU. I must note that it features hardware acceleration (KVM
>used to be a fork of QEMU to implement this feature but it was merged
>back). Moreover, you can use SPICE  to
>display the guest windows as individual windows in the host.
>
>Regards.

I forgot something: As for sharing directories between guest and host,
this can be accomplished using the same means that one would use to share
a directory or files between machines in he same local network. I use
sftp.

I think that QEMU has a feature to make available content from the guest
to the host as a SMB directory, but I have never used it.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mario Castelán Castro]

On 2017-08-18 16:25 +0200 Dejan Jocic  wrote:
>On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
>> On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:  
>> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that
>> will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine,
>> and to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a dual-screen
>> system - no room where I live for that). If I could find something that
>> would work I'd switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far
>> more features I guess (I don't know what though).
>
>qemu-kvm does not serve your needs? You can use it with GUI friendly
>virt-manager, or from command line. And switching between host and guest
>is switching between windows. As for shared directory, NFS?

I recommend QEMU. I must note that it features hardware acceleration (KVM
used to be a fork of QEMU to implement this feature but it was merged
back). Moreover, you can use SPICE  to
display the guest windows as individual windows in the host.

Regards.


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Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX 
wrote:

> On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > RavenLX  wrote:
> > 
> >> I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
> >> frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so
> >> that it would be back in Debian.
> > 
> > Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software
> > released and distributed by them.
> > 
> > Grüße,
> > Sven.
> > 
> 
> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something
> that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual
> machine, and to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a
> dual-screen system 
> - no room where I live for that). If I could find something that
> would work I'd switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far
> more features I guess (I don't know what though).

Virtualbox has shared folders (directory) as well as shared Clipboard.
You just need to install Guest Additions in the Guest OS to enable it.
I use both all the time.

VB has a lot of other features.  Just read the manual.

B

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Dejan Jocic]

On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > RavenLX  wrote:
> > 
> > > I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
> > > frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that
> > > it would be back in Debian.
> > 
> > Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released
> > and distributed by them.
> > 
> > Grüße,
> > Sven.
> > 
> 
> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that will
> allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and to be
> able to go between both quickly (I don't have a dual-screen system - no room
> where I live for that). If I could find something that would work I'd
> switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far more features I guess
> (I don't know what though).
> 

qemu-kvm does not serve your needs? You can use it with GUI friendly
virt-manager, or from command line. And switching between host and guest
is switching between windows. As for shared directory, NFS?

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[RavenLX]

On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

RavenLX  wrote:


I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that
it would be back in Debian.


Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released
and distributed by them.

Grüße,
Sven.



I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that 
will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and 
to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a dual-screen system 
- no room where I live for that). If I could find something that would 
work I'd switch, I think. As for my friend, he would need far more 
features I guess (I don't know what though).

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Sven Hartge]

RavenLX  wrote:

> I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more
> frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that
> it would be back in Debian.

Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released
and distributed by them.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[RavenLX]

On 08/15/2017 12:37 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:18:22PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:

Robert Menes  wrote:


Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or
buster yet?


Short Answer: Because of Oracle.

Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466

Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in
Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.



I feel this answer is slightly disingenuous.

Yes it is true the official Debian repo won't contain Virtualbox again
until Oracle make changes they will most likely never make.

But, you can get VirtualBox to work just fine on post-Jessie Debian by
adding the following to your sources.list or sources.list.d:

deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian stretch contrib

(Obviously you wouldn't use stretch, I am on stretch so that is what I
use)

then apt update and bob will be your uncle, and fanny will be your aunt.

Mark


I'm using the exact line you quoted (using 'stretch' in the virtualbox 
line) and it's not complaining at all. Works fine on this end. Also, I 
put it in a separate file in the sources.list.d but I don't know if that 
matters?


I use virtualbox for development and testing, so for me it's a 
must-have. A friend of mine recently moved from hardware servers to 
Debian Stretch + VirtualBox (I told him how to use the virtualbox.org 
repo as I too discovered it wasn't in the Debian repo).


I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more 
frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that it 
would be back in Debian.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Mark Fletcher]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:18:22PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Robert Menes  wrote:
> 
> > Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or
> > buster yet? 
> 
> Short Answer: Because of Oracle.
> 
> Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466
> 
> Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in
> Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.
> 

I feel this answer is slightly disingenuous. 

Yes it is true the official Debian repo won't contain Virtualbox again 
until Oracle make changes they will most likely never make.

But, you can get VirtualBox to work just fine on post-Jessie Debian by 
adding the following to your sources.list or sources.list.d:

deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian stretch contrib

(Obviously you wouldn't use stretch, I am on stretch so that is what I 
use)

then apt update and bob will be your uncle, and fanny will be your aunt.

Mark

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Hans]

Sorry, I just forgot about Oracle policy terms. Yes, you are right and I am 
wrong. 

Best

Hans

> Short Answer: Because of Oracle.
> 
> Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466
> 
> Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in
> Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.
> 
> Grüße,
> Sven.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Sven Hartge]

Robert Menes  wrote:

> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or
> buster yet? 

Short Answer: Because of Oracle.

Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466

Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in
Testing or any stable release or stable-backports ever again.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Hans]

Am Freitag, 11. August 2017, 07:08:41 CEST schrieb Robert Menes:
Did you install the virtualbox-dkms package?

If yes, did it build?

If yes, can you modprobe virtualbox?

If everything fails, try kvm and aqemu as a substitute.

Best

Hans
> Hi all,
> 
> On my home desktop, I'm running Debian on the testing channel (currently
> at "buster"). A recent apt-get upgrade appears to have broken or removed
> a few vital virtualbox packages, including virtualbox-dkms.
> 
> Launching any VM in virtualbox throws this error message:
> 
> [error]
> 
> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there
> is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall virtualbox-dkms
> package and load the kernel module by executing
> 
> 'modprobe vboxdrv'
> 
> as root.
> 
> where: suplibOsInit what: 3 VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908) - The
> support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT.
> 
> [/error]
> 
> Running modprobe as the error message suggests, though, gives me:
> 
> modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory
> /lib/modules/4.11.0-1-amd64
> 
> Current I'm running the 4.11.0-1-amd64 kernel, but can easily boot and run
> a 4.9 kernel (which is the last good working kernel I have).
> 
> apt-cache search on my desktop doesn't bring up results for any virtualbox
> package, except for 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso'.
> 
> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or buster
> yet? While only a minor inconvenience of having to boot with another
> kernel, I would like to have the newer packages available for a consistent
> upgrade.
> 
> Thanks, all.
> 
> --Robert

Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

[Robert Menes]

Hi all,

On my home desktop, I'm running Debian on the testing channel (currently
at "buster"). A recent apt-get upgrade appears to have broken or removed
a few vital virtualbox packages, including virtualbox-dkms.

Launching any VM in virtualbox throws this error message:

[error]

The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there
is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall virtualbox-dkms
package and load the kernel module by executing

'modprobe vboxdrv'

as root.

where: suplibOsInit what: 3 VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908) - The
support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT.

[/error]

Running modprobe as the error message suggests, though, gives me:

modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory
/lib/modules/4.11.0-1-amd64

Current I'm running the 4.11.0-1-amd64 kernel, but can easily boot and run
a 4.9 kernel (which is the last good working kernel I have).

apt-cache search on my desktop doesn't bring up results for any virtualbox
package, except for 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso'.

Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or buster
yet? While only a minor inconvenience of having to boot with another
kernel, I would like to have the newer packages available for a consistent
upgrade.

Thanks, all.

--Robert
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