Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:38:50 -0500 (EST), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..while webmin is now at 1.121. > > > > Whoops I meant 1.121 > > $ apt-cache show webmin > Package: webmin > Priority: optional > Section: admin > Installed-Size: 5444 > Maintainer: Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Architecture: all > Version: 1.121-1 > Replaces: webmin-ssl > Provides: webmin-ssl > Depends: perl, debconf, libpam-runtime (>= 0.76-13.1), > libauthen-pam-perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl > Recommends: webmin-core > Conflicts: webmin-ssl > Filename: pool/main/w/webmin/webmin_1.121-1_all.deb > Size: 1016670 > MD5sum: 602a26b2035f68f7b1be5b0a0828dcb2 > Description: Web-based administration toolkit > Webmin is a web-based interface for system administration for Unix. > Using any browser that supports tables and forms (and Java for the > File Manager module), you can setup user accounts, Apache, DNS, file > sharing and so on. > > > > ..the third way is first install the woody stuff with apt-get, then > > enter webmin's own update menu and update it, it'll them suck > > in a tarball with all modules. > > > > Except I've disabled that feature. > > > ..the 3 wee bits missing IMHO, is it oughtta first check which > > modules are installed, and offer to weed out the surplus modules > > (some are new), and it oughtta report the changes to the database, > > or place it in /usr/local or /opt. > > > > And that's why the proper way is to use .debs! ..agreed, Red Hat derivatives fetch a new rpm, but the .deb fetches a tarball instead, on updateing. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
Update, I went the apt-get routine and everybody is much happier. Thanks to all who lended there hands. -mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..while webmin is now at 1.121. > Whoops I meant 1.121 $ apt-cache show webmin Package: webmin Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 5444 Maintainer: Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 1.121-1 Replaces: webmin-ssl Provides: webmin-ssl Depends: perl, debconf, libpam-runtime (>= 0.76-13.1), libauthen-pam-perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl Recommends: webmin-core Conflicts: webmin-ssl Filename: pool/main/w/webmin/webmin_1.121-1_all.deb Size: 1016670 MD5sum: 602a26b2035f68f7b1be5b0a0828dcb2 Description: Web-based administration toolkit Webmin is a web-based interface for system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms (and Java for the File Manager module), you can setup user accounts, Apache, DNS, file sharing and so on. > ..the third way is first install the woody stuff with apt-get, then > enter webmin's own update menu and update it, it'll them suck > in a tarball with all modules. > Except I've disabled that feature. > ..the 3 wee bits missing IMHO, is it oughtta first check which modules > are installed, and offer to weed out the surplus modules (some are > new), and it oughtta report the changes to the database, or place > it in /usr/local or /opt. > And that's why the proper way is to use .debs! -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:11:07 -0500 (EST), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: > > > > -The current .deb package does not install all needed packages. > > You mean apt-get install webmin doesn't install all webmin modules? > That's by design. Each module (apart from a few essential core ones) > is a seperate module. Think about it. If you are running postfix why > would you need a sendmail module? If you are running proftpd why > would you need a wuftpd module installed? Etc. > > Or do you mean some other ptoblem? > > > -Webmin is way behind (ie out of date) in Woody. > > -The maintainer is apparently not keeping up. > > Again this is by design. When a Debian distribution becomes stable, > no new software is added to it. Testing/unstable contains version > 1.110 which is the most current. ..while webmin is now at 1.121. > Problems with the woody packages are likely never going to be fixed. > I advise you to install the versions from sarge which will install > cleanly on a woody system. You can do this in one of two ways: ..the third way is first install the woody stuff with apt-get, then enter webmin's own update menu and update it, it'll them suck in a tarball with all modules. ..the 3 wee bits missing IMHO, is it oughtta first check which modules are installed, and offer to weed out the surplus modules (some are new), and it oughtta report the changes to the database, or place it in /usr/local or /opt. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
Ok, so I'm not the sharpest tack around. I decided, prematurely I might add, to use dselect to "upgrade" to sarge. Now I have no idea where I am. Dselect got a few errors and could not correct itself. It started with one error while uninstalling foo, so it thinks foo is not installed (but it is). So I run dselect to install it, but it thinks it is installed so does nothing and is happy. I try to get it to remove foo, but it can't find it and fails, and does not correct the db to show it is not there. Circular failures! I try to edit dselect's status, and change foo's status line, but now dselect is unhappy and cry's that someone is touching it's porridge. Alright, I will try to learn Apt and that routine, wish me luck! I just wish stable didn't mean stagnant. I recently looked at the editor Eclipse that IBM is behind. I was struck by how beautiful is was but didn't do a whole lot and was indecipherable about how to set up. Design by committe. Mac McCaskie Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: Hey folks, I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web server up and running. I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So I installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. However now I cannot get it to run. After doing some spelunking I've discovered a few things via comments I've read around and about. -The current .deb package does not install all needed packages. You mean apt-get install webmin doesn't install all webmin modules? That's by design. Each module (apart from a few essential core ones) is a seperate module. Think about it. If you are running postfix why would you need a sendmail module? If you are running proftpd why would you need a wuftpd module installed? Etc. Or do you mean some other ptoblem? -Webmin is way behind (ie out of date) in Woody. -The maintainer is apparently not keeping up. Again this is by design. When a Debian distribution becomes stable, no new software is added to it. Testing/unstable contains version 1.110 which is the most current. Having said that, webmin in woody is broken (and has been for some time but lets not go there.) In fact I've asked the archive maintainers to remove it altogether but they're taking their sweet time about it. -There is no bug report about it's failure to install properly. Problems with the woody packages are likely never going to be fixed. I advise you to install the versions from sarge which will install cleanly on a woody system. You can do this in one of two ways: 1. Search the archives of this list for the topic "apt pinning" 2. Manually download the .debs you want and install them with dpkg -i -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Sunday January 11 at 12:48pm Mac McCaskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web > server up and running. > > I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So > I installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. > However now I cannot get it to run. After doing some spelunking I've > discovered a few things via comments I've read around and about. I was (am) using webmin on a woody server. I've had no problems with it. However, I used apt, first by: apt-cache search webmin | grep ^webmin then: apt-get install dselect isn't too useful for everyday use. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 9th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3170 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web > server up and running. > > I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So I > installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. However > now I cannot get it to run. After doing some spelunking I've discovered > a few things via comments I've read around and about. > > -The current .deb package does not install all needed packages. You mean apt-get install webmin doesn't install all webmin modules? That's by design. Each module (apart from a few essential core ones) is a seperate module. Think about it. If you are running postfix why would you need a sendmail module? If you are running proftpd why would you need a wuftpd module installed? Etc. Or do you mean some other ptoblem? > -Webmin is way behind (ie out of date) in Woody. > -The maintainer is apparently not keeping up. Again this is by design. When a Debian distribution becomes stable, no new software is added to it. Testing/unstable contains version 1.110 which is the most current. Having said that, webmin in woody is broken (and has been for some time but lets not go there.) In fact I've asked the archive maintainers to remove it altogether but they're taking their sweet time about it. > -There is no bug report about it's failure to install properly. > Problems with the woody packages are likely never going to be fixed. I advise you to install the versions from sarge which will install cleanly on a woody system. You can do this in one of two ways: 1. Search the archives of this list for the topic "apt pinning" 2. Manually download the .debs you want and install them with dpkg -i -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:48:55 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: > > My real question is this, > -should I give up on Woody and move to Sarge as one post (elsewhere) > suggested in hopes that Sarge's .deb will actually work? > -give up on the .deb package system and use the .tar file - (takes me > back to DOS days)? webmin works fine in sarge, if that's any help. -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
Hey folks, I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web server up and running. I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So I installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. However now I cannot get it to run. After doing some spelunking I've discovered a few things via comments I've read around and about. -The current .deb package does not install all needed packages. -Webmin is way behind (ie out of date) in Woody. -The maintainer is apparently not keeping up. -There is no bug report about it's failure to install properly. Now, before my b*tt gets flamed, I realize I am a newbie and the problem may not be webmin. And if you flame a noowbie then shame on you. My real question is this, -should I give up on Woody and move to Sarge as one post (elsewhere) suggested in hopes that Sarge's .deb will actually work? -give up on the .deb package system and use the .tar file - (takes me back to DOS days)? -just shut up and hope someday it will be magically fixed? Thanks for any help, Mac McCaskie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
