Re: Sarge root-login was Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
Felixk Karpfen wrote: On 2004-11-21, Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:38 -0500, Williams, Allen wrote: 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? It's a security feature. If you're using GDM, there's a configuration option at the login screen to enable you to log in as root. Since I am preparing to install Sarge - this answer caught my eye. Because it may make the install more complex. On the other hand, it may be a false alarm. The plan was|is to install Sarge on a currently empty partition, keep Woody operational until I am certain that Sarge works (I am still learning to walk in Debian) and share my /home directory (which is on a separate partition). This assumes that all my initial Sarge configurations are done as root and that I create a user and then mount my home partition into Sarge. While I have no problems in doing all this from the console, I had to tweak Woody before I persuaded it _not_ to load XWindows at boot. My default windows manager is fvwm2 and I load it - when I want it - from the console. All advice will be gratefully received. Felix Karpfen First, I'm no expert. The last two Sarge installs I did went smoothly. From all I've seen and heard, if you can install Woody then Sarge is a breeze. I did a minimum base install. I used the ext3 file system. The first thing I installed was Midnight Commander. From then on, it's just a matter of installing whatever you want. I never used Woody so Sarge is my first try at Debian. Most things work reasonably well. There have been times when I've had to wait until fixes came down the pipe. By starting now, you should be farther along than I was (and still am). Have fun, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge root-login was Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
On 2004-11-21, Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:38 -0500, Williams, Allen wrote: 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? It's a security feature. If you're using GDM, there's a configuration option at the login screen to enable you to log in as root. Since I am preparing to install Sarge - this answer caught my eye. Because it may make the install more complex. On the other hand, it may be a false alarm. The plan was|is to install Sarge on a currently empty partition, keep Woody operational until I am certain that Sarge works (I am still learning to walk in Debian) and share my /home directory (which is on a separate partition). This assumes that all my initial Sarge configurations are done as root and that I create a user and then mount my home partition into Sarge. While I have no problems in doing all this from the console, I had to tweak Woody before I persuaded it _not_ to load XWindows at boot. My default windows manager is fvwm2 and I load it - when I want it - from the console. All advice will be gratefully received. Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:38 -0500, Williams, Allen wrote: 2. My desktop went from KDE to Gnome. Is this normal? Where do I set the default desktop? When you boot, do you get a graphical login screen? Is there a session icon or menu item? If there is, you should be able to choose a KDE session. 3. This machine is to be used primarily for software development. Any opinions on which desktop is best for that? You don't provide information to help answer that question. If you're using *emacs (or *vi*) and a command-line compiler, it doesn't really matter -- except that one of the lightweight window managers, as opposed to heavyweight desktops, might leave you more available RAM. What tools do you use? 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? It's a security feature. If you're using GDM, there's a configuration option at the login screen to enable you to log in as root. And now, I guess I'm off to learn about gnome... About a year ago, before I learned about selecting a session at the login screen, I did exactly the same thing. I just switched back to KDE (3.3.1), and I'm finding I like it just a little better than GNOME (2.6). I'm going to try GNOME 2.8 from unstable Real Soon Now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're there, I can't find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-) I had been running sarge since June, and I just did a complete reinstall of the latest sarge (don't ask- it's embarassing), dated 11/17, I think. 1. It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both woody and sarge. What happened to them, how do I find out what device support is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?). 2. My desktop went from KDE to Gnome. Is this normal? Where do I set the default desktop? 3. This machine is to be used primarily for software development. Any opinions on which desktop is best for that? 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? Is this in /etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)? And now, I guess I'm off to learn about gnome... _ Regards, Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
1. It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both woody and sarge. What happened to them, how do I find out what device support is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?). hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'. i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the kernel. 2. My desktop went from KDE to Gnome. Is this normal? Where do I set the default desktop? often times you can choose your desktop by using your display manager. the default desktop probably depends on which display manager (gdm, kdm, or xdm) is running. 3. This machine is to be used primarily for software development. Any opinions on which desktop is best for that? 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? Is this in /etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)? again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you can disable root logins. -matt zagrabelny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: 1. It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both woody and sarge. What happened to them, how do I find out what device support is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?). hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'. i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the kernel. Usually in /boot there is stored the config file that existed when compiling the installed kernel... I have been finding this to be true for a large number of distributions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:38 -0500 Williams, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're there, I can't find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-) I had been running sarge since June, and I just did a complete reinstall of the latest sarge (don't ask- it's embarassing), dated 11/17, I think. 1. It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both woody and sarge. What happened to them, how do I find out what device support is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?). It sounds like you entered 'expert' or 'expert26' at the boot prompt on the previous install and didn't on your latest install. Is there something that's not working on your computer, or why do you think you need more drivers? What do you need the drivers for? Answers to those questions would help us help you tremendously. Most likely any hardware drivers you need are already in the kernel waiting to be loaded. If you need software stuff, then yes, it's usually available via apt-get. 2. My desktop went from KDE to Gnome. Is this normal? Where do I set the default desktop? I guess you didn't use the Debian-Installer the Sarge installation you had been running since June? Yes, Gnome is the default for a new installation. You can change whether it uses Gnome or KDE though by changing your session options before you login (it's usually a menu option). When you change it, it will ask if you want the new choice to be the default. 3. This machine is to be used primarily for software development. Any opinions on which desktop is best for that? The one you can work with the best. :-) For me, it's IceWM. 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? Is this in/etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)? Guessing from your vague information, it sounds like a fairly default Sarge installation you're running. Which should mean the 'X desktop' you're trying to login on is GDM (Gnome Desktop Manager). So allowing root logins is something that can be controlled by clicking on Actions - Configure Login Manager and then enter your root password and go to the Security tab and check Enable root logins. HTH, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: 1. It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both woody and sarge. What happened to them, how do I find out what device support is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?). hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'. i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the kernel. 2. My desktop went from KDE to Gnome. Is this normal? Where do I set the default desktop? often times you can choose your desktop by using your display manager. the default desktop probably depends on which display manager (gdm, kdm, or xdm) is running. 3. This machine is to be used primarily for software development. Any opinions on which desktop is best for that? 4. I can't log in to the X desktop as root. Where do I fix that? Is this in /etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)? again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you can disable root logins. -matt zagrabelny If you are running Gnome you will certainly want to run gdm. I know that setting is in the X config file. I have been told by a Debian superguru that gdm is better than xdm and even works well for KDE, so that's my default display manager. I trust his judgement on things like this, although his documentation and people skills leave something to be desired sometimes. If you are using the graphical login, check the menus at the top of the window. Before you actually login, you can change the desktop session (default or one time) and allow root logins. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 18:50, Williams, Allen wrote: I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're there, I can't find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-) The installation manual http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install and the Debian Reference http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference contain just about all you want to know. Chris. -- Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
