Re: Where to go from here
On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:41:34AM -0400, Colin Bell wrote: > Okay, > > I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for > about 5 weeks now. I can get the base system installed but > then where do I look for new packages (the iso image contains > next to nothing from what I can tell)? I don't know what to > set in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. I probably have missed > something in some of the documents but the dselect-beginners > guide doesn't tell you much of anything. I'm looking to find > xfree86-4.0.*, kde-2.2 and Mozilla or netscape. I guess I > could build the whole system from source but I figure there > has to be a way or all the debian developers are just wasting > their time. > > When I state in the sources.list file that apt can look in the > unstable tree it seems to automatically tell itself to remove > a whole bunch of packages. I'm really getting bitter. I know > I could just go to Redhat and grab that and install it but > this is a labour of love. I see the power of apt and dselect > I just don't know how to harness it. Maybe I'm just supposed > to grab single debs off the net, I don't know. take a gander at http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html and see if that helps. -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #33 from Brian Potkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Looking for some good DPKG AND APT TIPS? You'll find a very good introduction at http://www.spack.org/geek/apt-help.html It is, of course, based on the man pages for apt-get and dpkg so you will want to read them as well. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Re: Where to go from here
Frank Zimmermann muttered: > Colin Bell wrote: > > I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for about 5 > > weeks now. I can get the base system installed but then where do I look Lots of good suggestions, but for a newbie I'd focus on the docs at www.debian.org. I found http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/installguide/ very useful. You _will_ want to learn to use apt and dselect, but re-running base-config (the 'easy' setup option) is a great way to get started. In fact, a great way to learn dselect is to install everything you think you _might_ want with base-config, then use dselect to trim the fat. HTH... Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to go from here
Colin Bell wrote: Okay, I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for about 5 weeks now. I can get the base system installed but then where do I look for new packages (the iso image contains next to nothing from what I can tell)? I don't know what to set in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. I probably have missed something in some of the documents but the dselect-beginners guide doesn't tell you much of anything. I'm looking to find xfree86-4.0.*, kde-2.2 and Mozilla or netscape. I guess I could build the whole system from source but I figure there has to be a way or all the debian developers are just wasting their time. Thanks, Colin First http://www.debian.org is a very good point to start from. Second you might want to have look at http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/ Frank
Re: Where to go from here
On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:41:34AM -0400, Colin Bell wrote: > When I state in the sources.list file that apt can look in the unstable tree > it seems to automatically tell itself to remove a whole bunch of packages. > I'm really getting bitter. I know I could just go to Redhat and grab that > and install it but this is a labour of love. I see the power of apt and > dselect I just don't know how to harness it. Maybe I'm just supposed to grab > single debs off the net, I don't know. if you have a set of CDs, use apt-cdrom, list the CDs in your sources.list and install a set of packages which you want. then update them using ftp after that, comment out the lines in sources.list, type apt-setup and create a sources.list with download sites. run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. sam -- (Sam Varghese) http://www.gnubies.com
Re: Where to go from here
edit /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be edited. But don't do it the hard way. Find the correct information on www.google.com first. I went to Google, entered KDE and Debian and the first link was http://kde.debian.net/ Suggest you do this for any programs you need to install. And if you like to live dangerously, edit sources.list so that deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free is commented out and the active line is deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free Obviously the UK mirrors may not be appropriate but you know what I mean. Don't be bitter. Debian is easy to run but if you want to tinker with it, you have to spend a fair amount of time on www.Google.com and http://groups.google.com HTH, Patrick
Re: Where to go from here
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Colin Bell wrote: > Okay, > > I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for about 5 > weeks now. I can get the base system installed but then where do I look > for new packages (the iso image contains next to nothing from what I can > tell)? I don't know what to set in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. I > probably have missed something in some of the documents but the > dselect-beginners guide doesn't tell you much of anything. I'm looking > to find xfree86-4.0.*, kde-2.2 and Mozilla or netscape. I guess I could > build the whole system from source but I figure there has to be a way or > all the debian developers are just wasting their time. > > When I state in the sources.list file that apt can look in the unstable > tree it seems to automatically tell itself to remove a whole bunch of > packages. I'm really getting bitter. I know I could just go to Redhat > and grab that and install it but this is a labour of love. I see the > power of apt and dselect I just don't know how to harness it. Maybe I'm > just supposed to grab single debs off the net, I don't know. > > Any help or direction (maybe there is a better dselect guide) would be > much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Colin Hello, a first step: enable line wrapping in your browser please? Add these lines to sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib and if you want to converse your installation slowly to woody (testing), add these: deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free with ftp.nl.uu.net your favorite (nearby) Debian mirror. Run 'apt-get update' to get the new archives, and you have a lot of new packages to install. Greetz, Sebastiaan
Where to go from here
Okay, I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for about 5 weeks now. I can get the base system installed but then where do I look for new packages (the iso image contains next to nothing from what I can tell)? I don't know what to set in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. I probably have missed something in some of the documents but the dselect-beginners guide doesn't tell you much of anything. I'm looking to find xfree86-4.0.*, kde-2.2 and Mozilla or netscape. I guess I could build the whole system from source but I figure there has to be a way or all the debian developers are just wasting their time. When I state in the sources.list file that apt can look in the unstable tree it seems to automatically tell itself to remove a whole bunch of packages. I'm really getting bitter. I know I could just go to Redhat and grab that and install it but this is a labour of love. I see the power of apt and dselect I just don't know how to harness it. Maybe I'm just supposed to grab single debs off the net, I don't know. Any help or direction (maybe there is a better dselect guide) would be much appreciated. Thanks, Colin
