Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-22 Thread George Borisov

Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any 
suggestions, recommendations?


I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it 
out yet.


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/


HTH,

George.


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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-22 Thread Steven Jones

George Borisov wrote:

Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any 
suggestions, recommendations?


I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it 
out yet.


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/


HTH,

George.




bacula.

regards

Steven


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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 04/22/08 04:24, George Borisov wrote:
 Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
 I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
 suggestions, recommendations?
 
 I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it
 out yet.
 
 http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/

*Every* time I see that app's name, I think, But I don't have a
PowerPC...

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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-22 Thread Brian McKee


On 21-Apr-08, at 7:17 PM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:


It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my  
systems. I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just  
for backup  restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any  
suggestions, recommendations?




If they are all linux boxes, and you aren't hung up on backing up to  
tape,  I like rsnapshot http://www.rsnapshot.org/


It uses just perl, rsync and hard links.  Works well for small setups  
because the backups aren't munged or filed or tar'd up - restore is  
just a matter of moving files back.   Backing up to disk makes for  
easy access, and you can back that up to an external drive or over  
the internet for offsite copies.


That in combination with mondorescue (mentioned elsewhere in this  
thread) for bare metal recovery has served me well.  (lots of lightly  
used linux desktops in various locations)


Doesn't work with Windows or Mac very well though...

Brian


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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-22 Thread Peter Teunissen


On 22-apr-2008, at 1:17, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my  
systems. I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just  
for backup  restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any  
suggestions, recommendations?




I'm in a similar situation and I'm very happy with my initial results  
using rdiff-backup. It's simple and efficient if you'll be making  
backups to disk. It can do push as well as pull backups and do ssh if  
needed. I'm setting it up to do daily incremental backups and will do  
complete backups form the 'current' rdiffbackup directory to tape. It  
might even work with rsync.net, haven't had the time to test that yet  
though.



Peter


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Which backup package?

2008-04-21 Thread Dennis G. Wicks

Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing 
up my systems. I have nine systems on my network, one 
will be used just for backup  restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should 
look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?


As usual, many TIA!
Dennis


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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-21 Thread Steve Witt

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:


Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my systems. I have 
nine systems on my network, one will be used just for backup  restore 
(Debian/lenny)


Do you intend to backup to tape? Unless amanda has improved a lot in the 
last few years, I'd recommend bacula. I switched from amanda to bacula and 
have been much happier. My complaint with amanda was that it didn't 
support our tape library at all (a 22 tape library) and we had to 
configure the library so it used a new tape every day. bacula does support 
tape libraries well and uses the tapes much more efficiently. It stores 
the backed up files in a database and so during a restore will be able to 
find the correct tape(s) in a multi-tape backup set to load to get the 
files you request. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't associate 
a tape with a particular backup job, and so is able to fill up the tape as 
backups are done over time. I don't know the status of development on 
amanda any more, but bacula is being actively maintained.








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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-21 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 04/21/08 19:28, Steve Witt wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
 
 Greetings;

 It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my systems.
 I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just for backup 
 restore (Debian/lenny)
 
 Do you intend to backup to tape? Unless amanda has improved a lot in the
 last few years, I'd recommend bacula. I switched from amanda to bacula
 and have been much happier. My complaint with amanda was that it didn't
 support our tape library at all (a 22 tape library) and we had to
 configure the library so it used a new tape every day. bacula does
 support tape libraries well and uses the tapes much more efficiently. It
 stores the backed up files in a database and so during a restore will be
 able to find the correct tape(s) in a multi-tape backup set to load to
 get the files you request. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't
 associate a tape with a particular backup job, and so is able to fill up
 the tape as backups are done over time. I don't know the status of

So multiple, consecutive days of backups are on one tape?  IMNSHO,
that's a serious design flaw, because a bad tape would then wipe out
many days of backups, like putting many eggs in a fragile basket.

 development on amanda any more, but bacula is being actively maintained.

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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-21 Thread s. keeling
Dennis G. Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  It is time that I started getting serious about backing 

s/time/long passed time/

  up my systems. I have nine systems on my network, one 
  will be used just for backup  restore (Debian/lenny)

You've offered too few details to go on.  Do they all need to be
backed up?  How much, how often, how critical are they, what are they,
and what else do you have?  If you've a Tandberg or DLT drive
available, that'll work nicely depending on your situation.  Or would
a CD/DVD burner do?  Or just rsync each of them to another one so
you've a mirror of each if one dies?

There's lots of strategies for doing backups.  What happens if your
backup server dies in the middle of a backup (or restore)?  Who backs
up the backup server?

You don't need to backup anything that's on the install disks.  What
else have you got?  Corporate website with backend database?

  I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should 
  look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?

I've never needed GUI backup programs.  I've never understood why
people use them.  The point of backing up is making a system easily
and correctly recoverable.  Making the backup easy is missing the
point, IMO.  It's the restore that I want to be quick and easy.

Roll your own?  Mine's hand crafted out of bash, find, afio, and
bzip2, however it's not suitable for enterprisey stuff (though it
could be).  It's done a brilliant job of making archives that are easy
to work with, recovering my systems over and over again (I experiment
a lot :-).


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Re: Which backup package?

2008-04-21 Thread John Fleming
I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should 
look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?


http://www.mondorescue.net/


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