Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
Hi, I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny on my laptop. Normally I get sound working using the snd-maestro3 module, but I can see that support has been removed. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464191 This is something that is affecting a lot of users. Yes, I can use 2.6.18 instead of 2.6.26, and yes I can download and installed firmware manually, but hell then I might as well run something different if I have to mess around like that to get sound working. Can someone please explain why the BLEEP support was removed? Rico. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:12:08PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: > Can someone please explain why the BLEEP support was removed? It was probably removed because the BLEEP is mostlikely non-BLEEP and as such would violate the BLEEP. But that's just a BLEEP. -- "Police noticed some rustling sounds from Linn's bottom area and on closer inspection a roll of cash was found protruding from Linn's anus, the full amount of cash taken in the robbery." - http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/robber-hides-loot-up-his-booty/2008/05/09/1210131248617.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:18:31 +1100 CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:12:08PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: > > Can someone please explain why the BLEEP support was removed? > > It was probably removed because the BLEEP is mostlikely non-BLEEP and > as such would violate the BLEEP. But that's just a BLEEP. That was what I thought, a pain in the BLEEP. :-) > -- > "Police noticed some rustling sounds from Linn's bottom area > and on closer inspection a roll of cash was found protruding > from Linn's anus, the full amount of cash taken in the robbery." > - > http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/robber-hides-loot-up-his-booty/2008/05/09/1210131248617.html > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On 10/19/08 05:12, Rico Secada wrote: Hi, I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny on my laptop. Normally I get sound working using the snd-maestro3 module, but I can see that support has been removed. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464191 This is something that is affecting a lot of users. Yes, I can use 2.6.18 instead of 2.6.26, and yes I can download and installed firmware manually, but hell then I might as well run something different if I have to mess around like that to get sound working. This response to the bug that you referenced explains exactly how to get sound to work again. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=48;bug=464191 Can someone please explain why the BLEEP support was removed? Probably because it violates the DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines). -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/19/08 05:12, Rico Secada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny on my laptop. > > > > Normally I get sound working using the snd-maestro3 module, but I > > can see that support has been removed. > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464191 > > > > This is something that is affecting a lot of users. > > > > Yes, I can use 2.6.18 instead of 2.6.26, and yes I can download and > > installed firmware manually, but hell then I might as well run > > something different if I have to mess around like that to get sound > > working. > > This response to the bug that you referenced explains exactly how to > get sound to work again. > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=48;bug=464191 Like I wrote: "yes I can download and install firmware manually" > > Can someone please explain why the BLEEP support was removed? > > Probably because it violates the DFSG (Debian Free Software > Guidelines). Someone already mentioned this, but thanks anyway. > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when > he is in trouble again. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On 10/19/08 20:33, Rico Secada wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/19/08 05:12, Rico Secada wrote: Hi, I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny on my laptop. Normally I get sound working using the snd-maestro3 module, but I can see that support has been removed. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464191 This is something that is affecting a lot of users. Yes, I can use 2.6.18 instead of 2.6.26, and yes I can download and installed firmware manually, but hell then I might as well run something different if I have to mess around like that to get sound working. This response to the bug that you referenced explains exactly how to get sound to work again. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=48;bug=464191 Like I wrote: "yes I can download and install firmware manually" So you did. My apologies. I disagree with you, though, about your reaction to having to manually d/l the binary firmware. Using Linux means sometimes having to get your fingers a bit greasy. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:04:11 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/19/08 20:33, Rico Secada wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Like I wrote: "yes I can download and install firmware manually" > > So you did. My apologies. np :-) > I disagree with you, though, about your reaction to having to > manually d/l the binary firmware. Using Linux means sometimes > having to get your fingers a bit greasy. I manage a lot of machines daily, and yes normally I agree, and I get my fingers greasy plenty. On my desktop I generally don't want to get grease anywhere, I haven't got the time. :-) At first I didn't see the licens issue and I apologies for my reaction. > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when > he is in trouble again. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On 10/20/08 17:25, Rico Secada wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:04:11 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/19/08 20:33, Rico Secada wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Like I wrote: "yes I can download and install firmware manually" So you did. My apologies. np :-) :) I disagree with you, though, about your reaction to having to manually d/l the binary firmware. Using Linux means sometimes having to get your fingers a bit greasy. I manage a lot of machines daily, and yes normally I agree, and I get my fingers greasy plenty. On my desktop I generally don't want to get grease anywhere, I haven't got the time. :-) You can't have Cheap, Easy and Secure. Choose two, and from there determine your desktop OS: Cheap and Easy: Windows. (Well, not really, but that's the fiction.) Cheap and Secure: Linux. Easy and Secure: OSX. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:46:55 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/20/08 17:25, Rico Secada wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:04:11 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You can't have Cheap, Easy and Secure. Choose two, and from there > determine your desktop OS: > > Cheap and Easy: Windows. (Well, not really, but that's the fiction.) > Cheap and Secure: Linux. > Easy and Secure: OSX. I disagree with you on this. I have been working with Debian for about ten years now, and there is nothing difficult about it. That's not the point. My point was that I didn't want to mess with something a non-debian-way, to get sound working, but like I said, I missed the problem about the licens, I thought there was another reason for remove the module. > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when > he is in trouble again. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
