Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - trying to NOT hijack

2020-11-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-11-23 at 05:43, Joe wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:21:25 +1100 Keith Bainbridge
>  wrote:

>> PS  Am I wrong to avoid 'everyting in 1 file' where possible (mail
>> dir rather than mbox in this case)? OK this is probably a whole
>> separate topic.
> 
> As I've posted elsewhere, I have about 3GB of email. I would not
> consider putting that in one file.

Speaking as a user of Thunderbird, I have ~20GB of E-mail (including
archives which date back well over a decade if not further), split
across a few accounts plus the "Local Folders" non-account.

It's divided into a total of 422 different mail-client-displayed
"folders" (although some of them are parent-folder only, they don't
contain actual messages), each of which is stored as a single file (not
mbox or similar, but the internal "Mork" database format, which as I
understand matters even Thunderbird may now be moving away from).

That averages out to ~47MB per file. After discounting the
otherwise-empty parent folders, the realistic figure is actually
probably somewhere in the 100MB-200MB range. When a given mailing list's
folder gets too large for my taste (or large enough that I start to
notice delays reading or writing that folder), I create a separate
"archive" folders for it by year, and move previous years' mail from
that folder into those per-year archive folders; this tends to happen
when the folder's contents reach somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000
messages.

This isn't necessarily a particularly ideal way of handling things, but
it's worked well for me thus far.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - trying to NOT hijack

2020-11-23 Thread Joe
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:21:25 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:

> Good afternon All
> 
> I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail
> collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound like
> this is a common practice.
> 
> What are the advantages of this set of processes over letting tbird do
> it all? - or any other client for that matter?

As far as I know, TB isn't an MTA, it can send email only as a client
to an MTA somewhere else. So it's not doing it all.

A lot depends how you want to send and receive emails. If you're using
an external email service, you can get away with just an email client,
or even use webmail. If you're sending and receiving yourself, you'll
need an MTA and an email distribution method such as POP3 or IMAP, as
well as clients on any devices you have. If you're also collecting
email from an external service, you'll need an email collector such as
fetchmail or procmail, to keep all email centrally stored. 
> 
> Would it save me from my fairly regular 'can't find profile' errors?
> 
> Thanks

Don't know, I gave up TB for Claws-mail long ago, TB was just too
painfully slow.

> 
> PS  Am I wrong to avoid 'everyting in 1 file' where possible (mail dir
> rather than mbox in this case)? OK this is probably a whole separate
> topic.

As I've posted elsewhere, I have about 3GB of email. I would not
consider putting that in one file.

-- 
Joe



Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - trying to NOT hijack

2020-11-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge

Good afternon All

I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail
collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound like
this is a common practice.

What are the advantages of this set of processes over letting tbird do
it all? - or any other client for that matter?

Would it save me from my fairly regular 'can't find profile' errors?

Thanks

PS  Am I wrong to avoid 'everyting in 1 file' where possible (mail dir
rather than mbox in this case)? OK this is probably a whole separate topic.

--
Keith Bainbridge

ke1thozgro...@gmx.com




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Date:   Thu, 19 Nov 2020 22:42:53 +0100
From:   Flo 
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Hi All,

I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails.


Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Flo