Re: Window manager switcher

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Carl,

seems you know the standard ways -- have a look at the wmanager
package (brandnew in potato):

$ apt-cache show wmanager
  Package: wmanager
  Version: 0.2-1
  Priority: optional
  Section: x11
  Maintainer: Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libfltk1, libstdc++2.10, mesag3, xlib6g (>= 3.3.5)
  Architecture: i386
  Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/wmanager_0.2-1.deb
  Size: 13964
  MD5sum: 3e746040162ced9a0f376ca4cac765c8
  Description: Select a window manager at X startup
   wmanager is a small X11 application for selecting a window manager
   at X startup. wmanager looks for a file named '.wmmanagerrc' in
   the user's home directory which contains a list of window managers.
  installed-size: 41

I didn't install it because I only work in wmaker now, but from the
accompanying README it seems close to what you're thinking of.

Greetings,
joachim

Re: Window manager switcher

[carlf]

> This may not be exactly what your looking for, but xsm (x session
> manager) can sort of do something like that.

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> It's easy to use, check it out.

Thanks, I'll give it a look -- sounds close to what I want.
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Re: Window manager switcher

[Eric G . Miller]

This may not be exactly what your looking for, but xsm (x session
manager) can sort of do something like that. You have to set up
sessions, and AFAIK you can't change sessions midstream. Some window
managers are "session aware" so changing your window manager will be
saved for the next session -- provided you also don't have an entry to
start a window manager in that particular session.

The problem with gnome and kde is they are finicky about their window
managers. However, you can set up both gnome and kde sessions as well as
bare bone fvwm. You chose your session after login. xsm is suggested by
gdm in potato and the set-up works very well. I have flwm,
Enlightenment and IceWm sessions managed by xsm, and then let gdm fire
up my gnome session using sawmill. 

It's easy to use, check it out.
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Re: Window manager switcher

[Achim Bohnet]

>>>Carl Fink wrote:
 > Achim Bohnet wrote:
 > 
 > > Slink and potato use the
 > > /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
 > > manager . . . [etc.]
 > 
 > I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
 > wouldn't have to edit config files.

I hope you don't refuse to use the shell at all :)

root:

register-window-manager --default $default-win-manager

user:

echo $my-default-win-manager > ~/.wmrc


Writing a GUI tools for these commands is left as an exercise for the
reader :)

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Re: Window manager switcher

[aphro]

I used this one for  awhile, it seems it hasnt been updated since i used
it(~2 years?)

http://gator.naples.net/~nfn03343/

worked ok at the time.

nate


On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Carl Fink wrote:

carlf >Achim Bohnet wrote:
carlf >
carlf >> Slink and potato use the
carlf >> /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
carlf >> manager . . . [etc.]
carlf >
carlf >I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
carlf >wouldn't have to edit config files.
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Re: Window manager switcher

[Carl Fink]

Achim Bohnet wrote:

> Slink and potato use the
> /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
> manager . . . [etc.]

I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
wouldn't have to edit config files.
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Re: Window manager switcher

[Achim Bohnet]

>>>Carl Fink wrote:
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 >  
 > > If you have installed the `menu'-package, click on the entry
 > > `window-managers', where you have entries for all installed WMs. If
 > > you click on one, it changes to this WM -- that's all, no extra
 > > utility needed. (Why, it's Debian :).)
 > 
 > Yes, I know, but I have KDE installed now and it's not in fact
 > appearing as a choice there, and in the past when I've used that
 > feature it hasn't made a permanent change -- it just loaded a
 > different window manager for that particular session.  I'm looking for
 > something that can:
 > 
 >  1)Handle more than just "window manager" changes (even
 >though that's what I wrote).  I want it to handle "operating
 >environments" like KDE/GNOME as well.

AFAIK, debian treat them the same. 

Slink and potato use the
/etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
manager (first one is the default).   Some weeks ago Potato
switched from the the window-managers file to the alternatives
mechanism.  Now Potato in x-window-manager  is a link to the
default window manager.

 >  2)Actually change config files so that you don't revert to
 >your previous WM/environment on your next boot.

Slink: update /etc/X11/window-mangers
Potato change x-window-mangers link via 'ln' or update-alternatives

the user can change the system default in the file ~/.wmrc

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Re: Window manager switcher

[Carl Fink]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
> If you have installed the `menu'-package, click on the entry
> `window-managers', where you have entries for all installed WMs. If
> you click on one, it changes to this WM -- that's all, no extra
> utility needed. (Why, it's Debian :).)

Yes, I know, but I have KDE installed now and it's not in fact
appearing as a choice there, and in the past when I've used that
feature it hasn't made a permanent change -- it just loaded a
different window manager for that particular session.  I'm looking for
something that can:

1)Handle more than just "window manager" changes (even
  though that's what I wrote).  I want it to handle "operating
  environments" like KDE/GNOME as well.
2)Actually change config files so that you don't revert to
  your previous WM/environment on your next boot.
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Re: Window manager switcher

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink) writes:

> I've heard tell of a utility found in other distro's called
> "switchdesk" to change window manager/graphical environment.  That is,
> if you're experimenting with KDE and GNOME and, say, fvwm, it would
> let you easily and interactively switch your default environment.
> Is there any Debian (I guess that means, GNU) equivalent?

If you have installed the `menu'-package, click on the entry
`window-managers', where you have entries for all installed WMs. If
you click on one, it changes to this WM -- that's all, no extra
utility needed. (Why, it's Debian :).)

Greetings,
joachim

Window manager switcher

[Carl Fink]

I've heard tell of a utility found in other distro's called
"switchdesk" to change window manager/graphical environment.  That is,
if you're experimenting with KDE and GNOME and, say, fvwm, it would
let you easily and interactively switch your default environment.

Is there any Debian (I guess that means, GNU) equivalent?
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