Re: Woody nukes Gnome
If I purge all of the ximian and helix files, that's practically every application I use99 packages not to mention the others that will probably be removed because of dependency problems. Debian Woody sets up gnome 1.0.56 Ximian Woody has installed 1.2.11 for some time now. I think an itsy-bitsy file like libart2 caused everything to cave in (that seems to be one of the files causing the problem). I've looked at the correspondence between the Ximian and Debianand accusations about who does not support who. It sounds like Ximian threw up their hands out of frustration when they said they would no longer offer support for testing. -Glen
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Glen Snyder wrote: If I purge all of the ximian and helix files, that's practically every application I use99 packages not to mention the others that will probably be removed because of dependency problems. Debian Woody sets up gnome 1.0.56 Ximian Woody has installed 1.2.11 for some time now. I think an itsy-bitsy file like libart2 caused everything to cave in (that seems to be one of the files causing the problem). Man, I /really/ wish that I'd been paying attention to this thread yesterday. Last night, I installed libart2 and . . . well, you know the rest. Any guesses as to what I'll be doing tonight? -- steve * Linux : http://exitwound.org Mozart: http://mozart.sourceforge.net Buck : http://www.BuckOwensFan.com *
Woody nukes Gnome
Just did an apt-get dist-upgrade I'm using Woody, and have not had any problem with ximian's Debian install of Gnome for the past couple months, until now. The upgrade trashes Gnome big time, as well as Sawfish, Gnumeric, you name it... It was something in the upgrade that was added just today500 k or so of upgrades and Gnome had a dependency tizzy. Help! Save me from KDE and black screens with command prompts! -Glen
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:32:03PM -0400, Glen Snyder wrote: Just did an apt-get dist-upgrade I'm using Woody, and have not had any problem with ximian's Debian install of Gnome for the past couple months, until now. The upgrade trashes Gnome big time, as well as Sawfish, Gnumeric, you name it... It was something in the upgrade that was added just today500 k or so of upgrades and Gnome had a dependency tizzy. Help! Save me from KDE and black screens with command prompts! you must purge all ximian and helix packages before upgrading to woody, then install woody's gnome. ximian does not support unstable or testing. and there is no reason whatsoever to use ximian there anyway since woody/sid have up to date gnome (1.4 probably is all the way there but it will be shortly). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdP13L3aqVc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: you must purge all ximian and helix packages before upgrading to woody, then install woody's gnome. ximian does not support unstable or testing. and there is no reason whatsoever to use ximian there anyway since woody/sid have up to date gnome (1.4 probably is all the way there but it will be shortly). That's interesting, I was not aware that Ximian couldn't be used with testing; I've been doing so for several months, and haven't had any problems. Doing apt-get upgrade today, I see that the following packages have been kept back: libgdk-pixbuf-dev libgdk-pixbuf-gnome-dev libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 libgdk-pixbuf2, and much removal of core Ximian packages would result if I tried to apt-get install them. This is the first conflict I've experienced between Woody and Ximian. Is there a simple way to remove the Ximian packages and replace them with the Woody ones? -- David Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 06:48:45PM -0700, David Steinberg wrote: Is there a simple way to remove the Ximian packages and replace them with the Woody ones? I was forced to pretty much purge everything that showed up with 'dpkg -l | grep ximian', and then reinstall x/gnome/enlightenment from the console. It was a pain, but proceeded quickly once I started.
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]it was written: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: you must purge all ximian and helix packages before upgrading to woody, then install woody's gnome. ximian does not support unstable or testing. and there is no reason whatsoever to use ximian there anyway since woody/sid have up to date gnome (1.4 probably is all the way there but it will be shortly). That's interesting, I was not aware that Ximian couldn't be used with testing; I've been doing so for several months, and haven't had any problems. You know I've heard that people have problems with it, but I've just never seen it either. I've been running Ximian on Woody for quite a while with no problems. I just upgraded yesterday after not having done it for a while and the only things I had to do were some installs with --force-overwrites (maybe 3 packages). Everything seems to work. as always, nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.fargus.net/nick Developer - Systems Engineer - Mad System Guru - MOO Sales he picks up scraps of information/he's adept at adaptation because for strangers and arrangers/constant change is here to stay
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 06:48:45PM -0700, David Steinberg wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: you must purge all ximian and helix packages before upgrading to woody, then install woody's gnome. ximian does not support unstable or testing. and there is no reason whatsoever to use ximian there anyway since woody/sid have up to date gnome (1.4 probably is all the way there but it will be shortly). That's interesting, I was not aware that Ximian couldn't be used with testing; I've been doing so for several months, and haven't had any problems. ximian themselves has announced that they are abandoning support for testing and unstable. again there is no reason to use ximian unless you want the ximiam spam on your desktop, otherwise testing's gnome is just fine and up to date. Is there a simple way to remove the Ximian packages and replace them with the Woody ones? dpkg -l | grep ximian purge everything that shows up dpkg -l | grep helix purge everything that shows up (these steps could be automated with a dash of awk if you wish) remove ximian from sources.list, run dselect update, and then look for obsolete/locally installed packages, purge anything that appears to be gnome/ximian related. that should have fully purged every trace of ximian from your system, at which point you can install pristine debian testing/sid gnome either manually or via a task package. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpyGew9j18nu.pgp Description: PGP signature
