compose in X11?
I don't get the compose key to work using XFree 4 On woody, with a S3 card, I use Xfree 3 and do not use xkb. There I could define my compose key using xkeycaps and modmap. But that is not working with version 4 that seems to use xkb by default. Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you; But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy." I Peter 4:12,13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
real transparency (under X11)
Hi! I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo transparency? Regards, Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal >with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo >transparency? Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, and invent and document an API for this. Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to be rewritten to take advantage of this. That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably not something you can do in a year. Mike. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal >>with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo >>transparency? >> >> > >Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 >protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, >and invent and document an API for this. > >Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to >be rewritten to take advantage of this. > >That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably >not something you can do in a year. > >Mike. > > > > I downloaded and burned a KNOPPIX CD this past week (it is way cool, btw - higly recommended for demo-ing Linux and for emergency OS needs, like for testing Windows-based PCs if you can't get hardware/network working or you need to save files to the network on a hosed Windows system, etc); I noticed that the KDE3 "K" menu had what I understand to be true transparency; at least it was the same type of transparency I've seen on Macintosh OS/X. FYI. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
On 01/09/02 Miquel van Smoorenburg did speaketh: > Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 > protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, > and invent and document an API for this. > > Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to > be rewritten to take advantage of this. > > That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably > not something you can do in a year. I thought that Rasterman was working on this, and that the latest version of Enlightenment had support for it. (17?) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html msg00239/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: real transparency (under X11)
My guess to the real transparency is example, take a sound player and play music so that there is as counter counting down. Move to so that it is just above your 'K' or gnome foot, and then open the menu. You will probably notice the time stopped ticking... Real transparency is when they dont take a snapshot of the area on screen that will be used when a menu opens and fade it with the menu to be shown. Tinus On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 17:00, Kent West wrote: > Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal > >>with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo > >>transparency? > >> > >> > > > >Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 > >protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, > >and invent and document an API for this. > > > >Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to > >be rewritten to take advantage of this. > > > >That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably > >not something you can do in a year. > > > >Mike. > > > > > > > > > I downloaded and burned a KNOPPIX CD this past week (it is way cool, btw > - higly recommended for demo-ing Linux and for emergency OS needs, like > for testing Windows-based PCs if you can't get hardware/network working > or you need to save files to the network on a hosed Windows system, > etc); I noticed that the KDE3 "K" menu had what I understand to be true > transparency; at least it was the same type of transparency I've seen on > Macintosh OS/X. > > FYI. > > Kent > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/09/02 Miquel van Smoorenburg did speaketh: > > > Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 > > protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, > > and invent and document an API for this. > > > > Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to > > be rewritten to take advantage of this. > > > > That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably > > not something you can do in a year. > > I thought that Rasterman was working on this, and that the latest version > of Enlightenment had support for it. (17?) > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 > "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount > of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix > HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html > True transparency (like that in OSX) has nothing to do with the WM itself, it's an X11 issue. i don't know where it stands as of now, but i know it's being worked on. Rob Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://zoidian.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
On Sunday 01 September 2002 16:35, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's > > the deal with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's > > still only pseudo transparency? > > Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 > protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, > and invent and document an API for this. I think that's exactly what the XRender extension is supposed to do. It works fairly well, but it does apparently still work with a snapshot to create transparency. I don't know enough about the X11 protocol to say anything definitive, but I think, part of the problem is that hidden parts of the desktop are just not transmitted for a redraw which would be necessary for true transparency to work. Another problem that's rather serious is the question "what for". IMHO, that's the real problem hampering the development of such gimmicks. -- Embedded Linux -- True multitasking! TWO TOASTS AT THE SAME TIME! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
if I recall correctly, the window manager in OSX uses double-buffering, and 10.2 uses GL to speed the transparancies. however, it's not as fast... Nicos Gollan wrote: >On Sunday 01 September 2002 16:35, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> >>Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's >>>the deal with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's >>>still only pseudo transparency? >>> >>> >>Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 >>protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, >>and invent and document an API for this. >> >> > >I think that's exactly what the XRender extension is supposed to do. It >works fairly well, but it does apparently still work with a snapshot to >create transparency. I don't know enough about the X11 protocol to say >anything definitive, but I think, part of the problem is that hidden >parts of the desktop are just not transmitted for a redraw which would >be necessary for true transparency to work. > >Another problem that's rather serious is the question "what for". IMHO, >that's the real problem hampering the development of such gimmicks. > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real transparency (under X11)
On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 16:35, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Christian Schoenebeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [transparency] > Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11 > protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code, > and invent and document an API for this. Isn't this mostly done (Xrender extension)? cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpghttp://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: keyserver.kjsl.com is known to carry a valid copy of my key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
