Re: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:40:13 +0100, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm not doing a great job. I did a netinstall from > debian-installer (12-01-04, FWIW, and it *rocks*!), but can't seem to > get X to come up at all. My usual approaches in such cases: 1. (as proposed by another poster) try KNOPPIX 2. even more often, I resort to su cd /root/ XFree86 -configure and then follow the last line of that screen output (XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new) I'm writing this as far as my memory is correct; so no guarantees ! Usually, this never brings the final config, but serves as starting point: Does it recognize the hardware ? And then the XFConfig can be tuned ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 12:34:27AM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > Doing a bit of advocay, I've managed to convince a friend to try Debian > on his newly put-together PC for a bit, while he saves up the £165 WinXP > tax. > > Unfortunately, I'm not doing a great job. I did a netinstall from > debian-installer (12-01-04, FWIW, and it *rocks*!), but can't seem to > get X to come up at all. > > I'll happily post any config files here, but (off the top of my head) > the problem is that X bombs after a couple of seconds with "no screens > found". He's got a NVidia FX mumble in there. > > If I could get the damn thing to work with even the vesa driver, I'd > know where to start - but I can't. I've got mdetect, read-edid and > discover installed (all before apt-get installing xserver-xfree86), but > this doesn't seem to help. > > So - > > o any AGP gotchas I should look out for? I've only installed on a PCI > system before .. > > o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be starting > with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? > > o What files can I post here to help you help me? > > TIA - I really need some advice! > jc > Two things you can post are /var/log/XFree86.0.log and running startx > X.log 2>&1 and post X.log. Start by looking at those two files for anything suspicious. Look out for an error about not finding the mouse. Its something that head me banging my had against the wall a few times. X won't start if it can't find one of the configured mice (look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and make sure that the file the mouse looks at exists, and check in the server section iirc what mouse setup X is trying to use). > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 12:34:27AM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > I'll happily post any config files here, but (off the top of my head) > the problem is that X bombs after a couple of seconds with "no screens > found". He's got a NVidia FX mumble in there. I know that some nvidia cards will work with the nv driver that comes with Xfree86. However you won't get any acceleration out of it. Some of the newer cards won't even work with that and will require the nvidia drivers. I'm not sure if there are any nvidia cards out there that won't even work with vesa... > o any AGP gotchas I should look out for? I've only installed on a PCI > system before .. Usually it's just about the same as PCI, except if you want to set up hardware accelerated 3d, then you need to worry about AGP drivers, etc. > o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be starting > with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? Usually this is vesa. I guess X 3.3 has an svga server :) > o What files can I post here to help you help me? Well here are the relevant parts of a generic XF86Config-4 file: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "vesa" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync 28-50 VertRefresh 43-75 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Generic Video Card" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection There's always the option to use nvidia's proprietary (non-free) drivers. They should work with all the recent nvidia cards (AFAIK). Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
Jonathan Matthews wrote: Doing a bit of advocay, I've managed to convince a friend to try Debian on his newly put-together PC for a bit, while he saves up the £165 WinXP tax. Unfortunately, I'm not doing a great job. I did a netinstall from debian-installer (12-01-04, FWIW, and it *rocks*!), but can't seem to get X to come up at all. I'll happily post any config files here, but (off the top of my head) the problem is that X bombs after a couple of seconds with "no screens found". He's got a NVidia FX mumble in there. If I could get the damn thing to work with even the vesa driver, I'd know where to start - but I can't. I've got mdetect, read-edid and discover installed (all before apt-get installing xserver-xfree86), but this doesn't seem to help. So - o any AGP gotchas I should look out for? I've only installed on a PCI system before .. o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be starting with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? o What files can I post here to help you help me? TIA - I really need some advice! jc What hardware (CPU, mobo chipset, video card w/ model) and software (kernel, XFree86 version, nvidia driver version, Debian version) are you working with? Also, go ahead and send in the config files (X and kernel), dmesg, and logs (kernel, syslog, and XFree86.log). -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
Have you tried Knoppix or something like that to see if that works graphically? If so, you can take the X config stuff from there - Original Message - From: Jonathan Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special? > > o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be > starting > with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? > > o What files can I post here to help you help me? > > TIA - I really need some advice! > jc > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
Doing a bit of advocay, I've managed to convince a friend to try Debian on his newly put-together PC for a bit, while he saves up the £165 WinXP tax. Unfortunately, I'm not doing a great job. I did a netinstall from debian-installer (12-01-04, FWIW, and it *rocks*!), but can't seem to get X to come up at all. I'll happily post any config files here, but (off the top of my head) the problem is that X bombs after a couple of seconds with "no screens found". He's got a NVidia FX mumble in there. If I could get the damn thing to work with even the vesa driver, I'd know where to start - but I can't. I've got mdetect, read-edid and discover installed (all before apt-get installing xserver-xfree86), but this doesn't seem to help. So - o any AGP gotchas I should look out for? I've only installed on a PCI system before .. o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be starting with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? o What files can I post here to help you help me? TIA - I really need some advice! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
