Re: apt-get: broken dependencies

2007-08-08 Thread Hans Vogelsberger

Florian Kulzer schrieb:

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 17:45:18 +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:

 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

 dpkg --force-overwrite -i 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb


 followed by

 apt-get install -f

 should fix this.

This did it, thank you very much. Upgrading is possible again.


Something about the meaning of the words testing and Ubuntu comes to
mind, but I think it is better if I let it slide.


The word 'testing' was chosen by Debian maintainers to show what they 
think Testing was and is good for them. I should prefer a name like 
'desktop' to show what I think Testing was and is good for me. Servers 
need stable, but for desktops you better use Testing or, if you dare, 
Sid. The meaning of the word testing makes maintainers forget how
important this distri is for desktop users, therefore in Sarge there was 
and in Etch there is beginning right now a period when important 
programs are brought from Sid to Testing immature and much too early.


I did not follow the discussion concerning the word 'Ubuntu' and 
mentioned this distribution only in the faint hope to avoid the work and 
the upset connected with the use of Testing, but I am afraid that in 
spite of my 76 years I am still too curious to change.



You can run LANG=C somecommand and you will get the messages of
somecommand in English.


This is really important. Thank you very much.

Hans.


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Re: apt-get: broken dependencies

2007-08-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:05:50PM +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:

 The word 'testing' was chosen by Debian maintainers to show what they think 
 Testing was and is good for them. I should prefer a name like 'desktop' to 
 show what I think Testing was and is good for me. Servers need stable, but 
 for desktops you better use Testing or, if you dare, Sid. The meaning of 
 the word testing makes maintainers forget how
 important this distri is for desktop users, therefore in Sarge there was 
 and in Etch there is beginning right now a period when important programs 
 are brought from Sid to Testing immature and much too early.

And many would disagree here and complain why it takes so long for the 
packages to migrate from unstable :)

Regards,
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Re: apt-get: broken dependencies

2007-08-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 19:05:50 +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:

[...]

 The word 'testing' was chosen by Debian maintainers to show what they think 
 Testing was and is good for them. I should prefer a name like 'desktop' to 
 show what I think Testing was and is good for me. Servers need stable, but 
 for desktops you better use Testing or, if you dare, Sid. The meaning of 
 the word testing makes maintainers forget how
 important this distri is for desktop users, therefore in Sarge there was 
 and in Etch there is beginning right now a period when important programs 
 are brought from Sid to Testing immature and much too early.

I know that in fact testing is a very usable desktop platform for many
people, but you have to keep in mind that it is really only meant to be
for testing the next release of Debian before it becomes stable. It
would of course be nice if there was a separate Debian desktop branch
available, but this does not really fit into Debian's workflow of
getting the next stable release into shape and the project simply does
not have the manpower to support an additional branch.

You might want to check out the packages apt-listbugs and
apt-listchanges if you are not using them already. They can help you
avoid bugs and other unpleasant surprises related to upgrades. The
chances are quite high that apt-listbugs would have warned you about the
problem with the package that blocked your system, and you could have
avoided the whole problem simply by delaying the upgrade of that one
package until the fixed version became available. (Apt-listbugs checks
the Debian bug tracking system for critical bugs whenever new packages
are about to be installed and you can simply put problematic packages on
hold before carrying on with the rest of the upgrade.)

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apt-get: broken dependencies

2007-08-07 Thread Hans Vogelsberger

Since one week or so apt-get is broken because of unmet dependencies on my
→  AMD64, Aspire 4200, Debian, mirror http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/
→  testing.

There should be a bug report, but I do not know against which of the 
five packages apt-get, gcc-4.2-base, lib32stdc++6, glibc-2.6.1, or dpkg. 
Some further packages also seem to depend on the same 'old' version of 
gcc-4.2-base. Experience shows that bug reporting against the wrong 
package leads to no consequences at all. This would be more than 
disastrous. Testing without upgrades is absolutely unusable. I would 
have to change to Ubuntu after having used Debian testing since it came 
up - in the times of Potato, wasn't it?


The following error messages I had to translate from German, only a few 
of them matched with readable texts I found in /bin/apt-get, so please 
excuse if there are mistakes.


Errors after apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get 
deselect-upgrade (exactly the same text):


Package lists are read... done
Dependency tree is built... done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lib32stdc++6: depends: gcc-4.2-base (= 4.2-20070712-1) but 
4.2-20070627-1 is installed

  locales: depends: glibc-2.6-1
E: Unmet dependencies. Try to use -f.

Errors after apt-get -f install:

(Reading data base ... 88142 files and dictionaries are installed.)
Package lists are read.
Preparing to replace libc6-i386 2.5-9 (by 
.../libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb) ...

Unpacking replacement for libc6-i386 ...
dpkg: Error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb (--unpack):

 Trying to overwrite »/usr/lib32« which is also in lib32z1
Errors occurred while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

When trying to remove one or all of the above files, apt-get threatens 
to delete several screenfuls of files, including some which I need and 
use every day. This is, what aptitude does, therefore I never used this 
program. '--reinstall install' shows no effect at all.


After updating to kernel 2.6.21 some more insufficiencies showed up, 
especially during boot procedures. I shall ask for them separately when 
they become bothering too much.


Hans



Re: apt-get: broken dependencies

2007-08-07 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 17:45:18 +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:
 Since one week or so apt-get is broken because of unmet dependencies on my
 →  AMD64, Aspire 4200, Debian, mirror http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/
 →  testing.

 There should be a bug report, but I do not know against which of the five 
 packages apt-get, gcc-4.2-base, lib32stdc++6, glibc-2.6.1, or dpkg. Some 
 further packages also seem to depend on the same 'old' version of 
 gcc-4.2-base.

The dependencies look OK to me: Your output below shows that the new
version of lib32stdc++6 requires gcc-4.2-base version 4.2-20070712-1,
which is the version currently in Lenny. The root of your problem seems
to be a known bug of lib32z1 (fixed in the meantime) which blocks the
installation of libc6-i386 (and everything else).

   Experience shows that bug reporting against the wrong package 
 leads to no consequences at all. This would be more than disastrous. 
 Testing without upgrades is absolutely unusable. I would have to change to 
 Ubuntu after having used Debian testing since it came up - in the times of 
 Potato, wasn't it?

Something about the meaning of the words testing and Ubuntu comes to
mind, but I think it is better if I let it slide.

 The following error messages I had to translate from German, only a few of 
 them matched with readable texts I found in /bin/apt-get, so please excuse 
 if there are mistakes.

You can run LANG=C somecommand and you will get the messages of
somecommand in English.

 Errors after apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get 
 deselect-upgrade (exactly the same text):

 Package lists are read... done
 Dependency tree is built... done
 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   lib32stdc++6: depends: gcc-4.2-base (= 4.2-20070712-1) but 4.2-20070627-1 
 is installed
   locales: depends: glibc-2.6-1
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try to use -f.

Most likely this is only a consequence of the lib32z1 problem and will
go away as soon as the latter is fixed.

 Errors after apt-get -f install:

 (Reading data base ... 88142 files and dictionaries are installed.)
 Package lists are read.
 Preparing to replace libc6-i386 2.5-9 (by .../libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb) 
 ...
 Unpacking replacement for libc6-i386 ...
 dpkg: Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb 
 (--unpack):
  Trying to overwrite »/usr/lib32« which is also in lib32z1
 Errors occurred while processing:
  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb

followed by

apt-get install -f

should fix this.

 When trying to remove one or all of the above files, apt-get threatens to 
 delete several screenfuls of files, including some which I need and use 
 every day.

That is to be expected if you try to remove important system libraries
and related packages.

This is, what aptitude does, therefore I never used this 
 program.

No, this is not what aptitude does, unless it is used by someone who
does not understand the Debian packaging system and who has not bothered
to read aptitude's excellent documentation (available in four
languages).

  '--reinstall install' shows no effect at all.

 After updating to kernel 2.6.21 some more insufficiencies showed up, 
 especially during boot procedures. I shall ask for them separately when 
 they become bothering too much.

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Apt-get broken dependencies

2006-02-14 Thread Thomas Lenon

After trying some of the suggestions in :
http://distrocenter.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/1952217tid=106

I'm still stuck with apt-get refusing to remove gforge-db-postgresql and
gforge-ldap-openldap because they depend on postgresql which was removed 
first.


dpkg  (remove and purge) also fail. ( dpkg sub process returns error code 
(1) )


even apt-get -f remove doesn't fix the problem because it attempts to 
INSTALL
postgresql (to solve the dependencies), and installing postgresql fails 
because

/etc/init.d/postgresql is missing.

Now apt-get refuses to upgrade ANY software because of the broken 
dependencies wth

gforge-db-postgresql and gforge-ldap-openldap.

Why is it impossible to REMOVE packages which depend on packages that are 
not present?
Why is it impossible to force removal (purge) packages which depend on 
packages that ARE NOT INSTALLED?


I can understand a warning when requesting removal of a package on which  
OTHER packages do depend, when those packages ARE installed, but this is the 
opposite case.


This would be something I would just ignore, except NOW apt-get will not 
install ANY new software because of the broken dependencies.


At the end of the article cite above, it mentioned re-installing everything, 
as a last resort. If I go that route it will be with another distro, since 
Debian seems a little tired.


Bottom line: Postgresql (default) with Debian has caused problems since day 
one, as have gforge, and now I have a dependency mess.


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Re: Apt-get broken dependencies

2006-02-14 Thread Alex Nordstrom
Wednesday, 15 February 2006 05:06, Thomas Lenon wrote:
 I'm still stuck with apt-get refusing to remove gforge-db-postgresql
 and gforge-ldap-openldap because they depend on postgresql which was
 removed first.

That really should not be an issue. Have you tried to list them for 
removal all at the same time to make it clear that you would like to 
remove all of them, i.e.

apt-get remove gforge-db-postgresql gforge-ldap-openldap postgresql

 even apt-get -f remove doesn't fix the problem because it attempts to
 INSTALL postgresql (to solve the dependencies), and installing
 postgresql fails because /etc/init.d/postgresql is missing.

That's certainly an interesting behaviour. Since you wouldn't be 
particularly concerned about the integrity of postgresql should you be 
able to install it (because you'd most likely just remove it right 
away), you might want to try touch /etc/init.d/postgresql and then 
retry.

 At the end of the article cite above, it mentioned re-installing
 everything, as a last resort. If I go that route it will be with
 another distro, since Debian seems a little tired.

You really should not have to reinstall a Debian system, unless you've 
got yourself in a mess by mixing distributions or included other 
nonstandard repositories. Things do occasionally get interesting if you 
run Sid, but I've never run into anything that couldn't be fixed.

In my experience, aptitute is a much better tool than apt-get, 
particularly when there are conflicting dependencies or peculiarities. 
The resolver will usually offer several different solutions to a 
problem, and it seems a bit more willing to override the protests of 
dpkg when it knows it's right (e.g. dpkg protests on installation of a 
package because an installed package conflicts with it, but aptitude 
knows the conflicting package is about to be removed).

It does tend to work better if you've used it all along, so that it 
knows which packages have been manually installed. But it might be 
worth a try in your case. Just ignore the incomprehensible GUI mode and 
use it as a command-line drop-in replacement for apt-get.

If you find that this advice is all a bit general, it might help if you 
include information on what versions of the packages you have installed 
(and the versions apt-get is trying to install), which Debian 
distribution you are running, and which repositories you use.

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