Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-07 Thread Kris
Oz Dror wrote:

On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character

the backspace character defaults to the delete character

how can I change this default.

Add...

xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace 

... to the top of your ~/.xsession, or type it from within an
(x|e|rxv)term to quickly test it.

At least that work(s|ed) for me.

HTH, etc.

Ciao,
  Kris

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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-07 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello Brian,

On 06-Aug-99, you wrote:

BS *- On 6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about Re: backspace character does
BS not exists in xterm,
BS Hello J.H.M.,
BS 
BS On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:
BS 
BS JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote: JD\
BS On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
BS JD\
BS JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies
BS on JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't
BS have a JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config. JD\
BS JD\ HTH,
BS JD\ Ray
BS 
BS Hi,
BS 
BS I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on
BS reloading, the keyboard mapping was unusable. I eventually found
BS the return key was now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows
BS on the keyboard were mapped six keys to the left, amongst the
BS random mappings on the rest of the keyboard. I couldn't find the
BS right combination to get to a console and as xdm was installed, the
BS system went straight into X leaving me with a completely unusable
BS system. Fortunately I'm just using this system to learn with so I
BS didn't mind having to completely re-install from scratch to get
BS around this. A rather drastic solution though.
BS 
BS Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X
BS Keyboard Extension?
BS 
BS 
BS Ouch!! How do you boot into linux? There are several ways to avoid a
BS reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user
BS mode(which won't start anything up) and then edit the config file.
BS If you use lilo to boot you can get the lilo prompt and enter your
BS label for linux followed my 'single', i.e.
BS 
BS LILO: linux single
BS 
BS If you use loadlin just add single to the loadlin command line.
BS Another option is to boot with the Debian rescue disk, hit enter at
BS the boot: prompt and wait for the color selection dialog to come up.
BS Then hit alt-f2 and enter. Now mount your linux partition that has
BS the config file on it and edit it with ae editor that is on the
BS rescue floppy.
BS 
BS There is certainly no need to reinstall the os for a broken config
BS file.
BS 

The 'other' problem is that when I install, I'm told that neither boot
from HD or boot floppies are implemented on Amiga.  I have to load from
AmigaDOS - perhaps there are some params I could change there.

As I said though, for me, it wasn't a problem - more like revision or
reading a book again with foreknowledge, but I thought a warning might
not go amiss as this doesn't seem to be 'common' knowledge.

Regards,

LeeE
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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-07 Thread Daniel Yang
I believe if you choose the keyboard type correctly when you do XF86Config,
the key mapping should be set right basically. So I would check the
XF86Config, make sure the keyboard selection is OK.
You may also look at the file .Xmodmap in /etc/X11 directory ( It may not in
the same directory on your machine). It is a system wide modmap file. It has
the key mapping information. or you can create your own .Xmodmap at your
home directory. The file Xinitrc should call it when xstarts.
Unfortunately, setting keymapping is far complicated. type man xmodmap for
how to manually set key mapping.
Good Luck
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Brian Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, August 06, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,


*- On  6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about Re: backspace character does not
exists in xterm,
 Hello J.H.M.,

 On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:

 JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
 JD\ On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
 JD\
 JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
 JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
 JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
 JD\
 JD\ HTH,
 JD\ Ray

 Hi,

 I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
 keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
 now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
 mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
 the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
 console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
 leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
 using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
 re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
 though.

 Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
 Extension?


Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which
won't start anything up) and then edit the config file.  If you use
lilo to boot you can get the lilo prompt and enter your label for linux
followed my 'single', i.e.

LILO: linux single

If you use loadlin just add single to the loadlin command line.
Another option is to boot with the Debian rescue disk, hit enter at the
boot: prompt and wait for the color selection dialog to come up.  Then
hit alt-f2 and enter.  Now mount your linux partition that has the
config file on it and edit it with ae editor that is on the rescue
floppy.

There is certainly no need to reinstall the os for a broken config file.

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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-07 Thread Daniel Yang
If you floppy device (fd0) is bootable (It is default setting on most BIOS),
you could use Linux Rescue Boot Disk as Brian said. It works.
If you floppy device (fd0) could not be booted, you may check the user
manual of your machine and see how to reconfigure boot setting of BIOS. You
must set floppy device to be the primary boot.
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, August 06, 1999 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,


Hello Brian,

On 06-Aug-99, you wrote:

BS *- On 6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about Re: backspace character does
BS not exists in xterm,
BS Hello J.H.M.,
BS
BS On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:
BS
BS JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote: JD\
BS On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
BS JD\
BS JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies
BS on JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't
BS have a JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config. JD\
BS JD\ HTH,
BS JD\ Ray
BS
BS Hi,
BS
BS I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on
BS reloading, the keyboard mapping was unusable. I eventually found
BS the return key was now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows
BS on the keyboard were mapped six keys to the left, amongst the
BS random mappings on the rest of the keyboard. I couldn't find the
BS right combination to get to a console and as xdm was installed, the
BS system went straight into X leaving me with a completely unusable
BS system. Fortunately I'm just using this system to learn with so I
BS didn't mind having to completely re-install from scratch to get
BS around this. A rather drastic solution though.
BS
BS Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X
BS Keyboard Extension?
BS
BS
BS Ouch!! How do you boot into linux? There are several ways to avoid a
BS reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user
BS mode(which won't start anything up) and then edit the config file.
BS If you use lilo to boot you can get the lilo prompt and enter your
BS label for linux followed my 'single', i.e.
BS
BS LILO: linux single
BS
BS If you use loadlin just add single to the loadlin command line.
BS Another option is to boot with the Debian rescue disk, hit enter at
BS the boot: prompt and wait for the color selection dialog to come up.
BS Then hit alt-f2 and enter. Now mount your linux partition that has
BS the config file on it and edit it with ae editor that is on the
BS rescue floppy.
BS
BS There is certainly no need to reinstall the os for a broken config
BS file.
BS

The 'other' problem is that when I install, I'm told that neither boot
from HD or boot floppies are implemented on Amiga.  I have to load from
AmigaDOS - perhaps there are some params I could change there.

As I said though, for me, it wasn't a problem - more like revision or
reading a book again with foreknowledge, but I thought a warning might
not go amiss as this doesn't seem to be 'common' knowledge.

Regards,

LeeE
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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello J.H.M.,

On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:

JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
JD\ On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
JD\ 
JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
JD\ 
JD\ HTH,
JD\ Ray

Hi,

I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
though.

Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
Extension?

Regards,

LeeE
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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello J.H.M.,

On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:

JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
JD\ On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
JD\ 
JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
JD\ 
JD\ HTH,
JD\ Ray

Hi,

I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
though.

Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
Extension?

Regards,

LeeE
-- 

http://www.spatial.freeserve.co.uk




Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about Re: backspace character does not exists 
in xterm,
 Hello J.H.M.,
 
 On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:
 
 JD\ On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
 JD\ On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
 JD\ 
 JD\ The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
 JD\ the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
 JD\ XkbDisable in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
 JD\ 
 JD\ HTH,
 JD\ Ray
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
 keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
 now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
 mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
 the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
 console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
 leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
 using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
 re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
 though.
 
 Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
 Extension?
 

Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which
won't start anything up) and then edit the config file.  If you use
lilo to boot you can get the lilo prompt and enter your label for linux
followed my 'single', i.e.

LILO: linux single

If you use loadlin just add single to the loadlin command line. 
Another option is to boot with the Debian rescue disk, hit enter at the
boot: prompt and wait for the color selection dialog to come up.  Then
hit alt-f2 and enter.  Now mount your linux partition that has the
config file on it and edit it with ae editor that is on the rescue
floppy.  

There is certainly no need to reinstall the os for a broken config file.

-- 
Brian 
-
Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
-


Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Samuel R. Scarano
[snip]
 leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
 using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
 re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
 though.
[snip]
 Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
 a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which

That, too, is overkill. Just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a virtual
console where getty is waiting to log you in.

By default, you have 6 vc's, which you can reach by pressing alt-F1
through alt-F6 (use ctrl-alt in X), and X starts at vc 7. (And yes, you
can have more than one X session). I think you get 64 vc's as a Linux
kernel default; for more, you must recompile the kernel.

I think Debian's installation scripts mention something about this when
you install. If they don't, they should.


Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Samuel R. Scarano wrote about Re: backspace character does not 
exists in xterm,
 [snip]
 leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
 using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
 re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
 though.
 [snip]
 Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
 a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which
 
 That, too, is overkill. Just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a virtual
 console where getty is waiting to log you in.
 

Read his post again.  He said he couldn't find the correct keys with the
keymap all out of wack to switch to a console.

*- On  6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about Re: backspace character does not exists 
in xterm,
 the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
 console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X


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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-02 Thread Robert Pintarelli
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 03:39:17PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
 On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
 
 the backspace character defaults to the delete character
 
 how can I change this default.
 

you can define your backspace character with
stty erase ^vkey

if have this in my .bashrc/.bash_profile

if [ $TERM = xterm-debian ]; then
stty erase 
fi

^? is generated by pressing strg v and then backspace

HTH robert

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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
xkeycaps will let you redifine any of the keys.

Bob

On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 03:39:17PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
 On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
 
 the backspace character defaults to the delete character
 
 how can I change this default.
 
 Thanks
 Oz Dror
 
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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-02 Thread Oz Dror
Actually it works fine in xterm, but it is converted to the DELETE character in
applications that
use ncurses
-Oz


Robert Pintarelli wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 03:39:17PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
  On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
 
  the backspace character defaults to the delete character
 
  how can I change this default.
 

 you can define your backspace character with
 stty erase ^vkey

 if have this in my .bashrc/.bash_profile

 if [ $TERM = xterm-debian ]; then
 stty erase 
 fi

 ^? is generated by pressing strg v and then backspace

 HTH robert

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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-02 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
 On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character

The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on the use of
the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a XkbDisable in
/etc/X11/XF86Config.

HTH,
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backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-01 Thread Oz Dror
On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character

the backspace character defaults to the delete character

how can I change this default.

Thanks
Oz Dror

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PHONE  Fax (310) 474-3126