Re: bug considering accent marks

2021-04-11 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote:

> AIUI you really want to avoid using accented characters or any sort
> of composition in your username and password. The reason is that if
> your computer gets set in any unexpected language setting (or unset),
> you might not be able to login at all, and unable to correct things.
> 
> I don't kow much about GUI login screens and whether they take account
> of this at all. But that's just my advice.

I would say you should have at least one account using ASCII chars for the
user and password



Re: bug considering accent marks

2021-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Apr 2021 at 19:11:15 (-0400), mcgarrett wrote:
> > On April 10, 2021 at 5:53 PM laurent aerens  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Package: unknown
> > 
> > Version: debian 9 - 10
> > 
> > Severity: minor
> > 
> > When I type accent marks (¨^´`) in the terminal followed by a letter 
> > (that does not match with the accent) (for example ^ and the letter n) 
> > nothing happens and the keystrokes get ignored.
> > 
> > Typing an accent mark and a space allows you to input it in the 
> > terminal.  The same cannot be said about the GUI for login where it is 
> > impossible to type any accent mark.
> > 
> > I am using the debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) for i383 and an orange pi 
> > build of debian 9.13.
> > 
> > PS: I did my best but I’m a Linux beginner so I don't know that much 
> > don't hesitate to ask further questions.
> 
> Why not setup the Compose key--usually rt-alt or the right-hand Windows 
> key--and then you can produce
> accents wherever you need them, as well as money signs, degrees, all sorts of 
> fractions, etc. Here, ¢, £,
> ñ, ¿ ° ß and lots more.   --doug

Because with a name and address like the OP's, they're obviously
typing in a language like French, and that would be a very
tedious setup.

Cheers,
David.



Re: bug considering accent marks

2021-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Apr 2021 at 23:53:27 (+0200), laurent aerens wrote:
> Package: unknown
> 
> Version: debian 9 - 10
> 
> Severity: minor
> 
> When I type accent marks (¨^´`) in the terminal followed by a letter
> (that does not match with the accent) (for example ^ and the letter n)
> nothing happens and the keystrokes get ignored.

It's always important to make it clear what you expect or want to
happen, as well as what does happen on your system. For example,
using Compose in an xterm, if I type   , nothing
happens, because I don't have a composition set for xp. I don't
want a spurious character, nor the pair of characters xp, which
I would need to rub out.

So is your observation what you want, or what you don't want?
(I would assume the former.)

> Typing an accent mark and a space allows you to input it in the
> terminal.

I can see the sense in that. I presume you have a keyboard language
setting appropriate for your language, and that your accent characters
are dead keys, automatically composing with the next character typed.
(Being British, all my keys type themselves.) So to type ^n, you
would type <^>   rather than just two keystrokes.

> The same cannot be said about the GUI for login where it is
> impossible to type any accent mark.

AIUI you really want to avoid using accented characters or any sort
of composition in your username and password. The reason is that if
your computer gets set in any unexpected language setting (or unset),
you might not be able to login at all, and unable to correct things.

I don't kow much about GUI login screens and whether they take account
of this at all. But that's just my advice.

> I am using the debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) for i38[6] and an orange pi
> build of debian 9.13.
> 
> PS: I did my best but I’m a Linux beginner so I don't know that much
> don't hesitate to ask further questions.

Cheers,
David.



Re: bug considering accent marks

2021-04-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:53:27PM +0200, laurent aerens wrote:
> Package: unknown
> 
> Version: debian 9 - 10
> 
> Severity: minor

This looks like you're attempting to generate headers for a bug report,
except that you're writing to debian-user rather than to the bug tracking
system, and you've accidentally put blank lines in between the headers.

> When I type accent marks (¨^´`) in the terminal followed by a letter (that
> does not match with the accent) (for example ^ and the letter n) nothing
> happens and the keystrokes get ignored.
> 
> Typing an accent mark and a space allows you to input it in the terminal.

This is some form of "dead keys" mode.  There isn't an n with caret,
but if you were to type, say, ^ and a, I bet you would end up with â.

If you want to disable dead keys mode, you can try various Google
results.  There are so many different and confusing results that I
don't know which one to recommend, as I have never enabled it myself,
and wouldn't know how to enable it *or* disable it.

It would also help if you specified which desktop environment, if any,
you're using.  Knowing that might be a necessary part of the solution.



Re: bug considering accent marks

2021-04-10 Thread mcgarrett

> On April 10, 2021 at 5:53 PM laurent aerens  wrote:
> 
> 
> Package: unknown
> 
> Version: debian 9 - 10
> 
> Severity: minor
> 
> When I type accent marks (¨^´`) in the terminal followed by a letter 
> (that does not match with the accent) (for example ^ and the letter n) 
> nothing happens and the keystrokes get ignored.
> 
> Typing an accent mark and a space allows you to input it in the terminal. 
>  The same cannot be said about the GUI for login where it is impossible to 
> type any accent mark.
> 
>  
> 
> I am using the debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) for i383 and an orange pi 
> build of debian 9.13.
> 
>  
> 
> PS: I did my best but I’m a Linux beginner so I don't know that much 
> don't hesitate to ask further questions.
> 

Why not setup the Compose key--usually rt-alt or the right-hand Windows 
key--and then you can produce

accents wherever you need them, as well as money signs, degrees, all sorts of 
fractions, etc. Here, ¢, £,

ñ, ¿ ° ß and lots more.   --doug



bug considering accent marks

2021-04-10 Thread laurent aerens

Package: unknown

Version: debian 9 - 10

Severity: minor

When I type accent marks (¨^´`) in the terminal followed by a letter 
(that does not match with the accent) (for example ^ and the letter n) 
nothing happens and the keystrokes get ignored.


Typing an accent mark and a space allows you to input it in the 
terminal.The same cannot be said about the GUI for login where it is 
impossible to type any accent mark.


I am using the debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) for i383 and an orange pi 
build of debian 9.13.


PS: I did my best but I’m a Linux beginner so I don't know that much 
don't hesitate to ask further questions.