Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Jude.

You worte:

No point in doing that at all.  If you want to see those messages
after login as root or as sudo  root do dmesg dmesg.log.  Then less
dmesg.log will let you view those messages one screen at a time.  Also
for a 

You can shorten that to

dmesg |less

- no need to file redirection (in some cases like no free space it
  even can be more useful, IMHO) :o)


Sthu.


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jan 2012 at 04:57:13 +, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
 that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
 bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
 grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
 please?

Does

   dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

get you what you want?


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/01/12 15:57, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
 that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
 bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
 grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
 please?
 
 Thanks
 Sharon.

Try editing grub at the boot screen and appending:-
video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24


NOTE: modify the resolution and colour depth to suit.

That works for me - I run Nvidia drivers so YMMV

Also remove quiet if you want boot trivia

If that solves your problem (the framebuffer making the boot messages
too small to read) edit /etc/default/grub to make the changes. Don't
forget to # update-grub afterwards.



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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 16/01/2012, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon 16 Jan 2012 at 04:57:13 +, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
 that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
 bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
 grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
 please?

 Does

dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

 get you what you want?


Sorry, no. I'm looking to view the messages at bootup time before you
logon, the ones that are too small to read in their text size and too
faint as well.

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/01/12 21:35, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 16/01/12 15:57, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? 

snipped

 
 Try editing grub at the boot screen and appending:-
 video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24

Might need to be:-
video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap


snipped


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Jacob Gaarde
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:10:01 +0100
Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote:

--SNIP--

 
 You can shorten that to
 
 dmesg |less
 
 - no need to file redirection 

--SNIP--

dmesg uses a ring-buffer so as time passes after boot dmesg | less is
useless if the objective is to see what happened at boot
therefore it might be a good idea to dmesg  outfile.out sometime soon
after boot.


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jan 2012 at 10:38:40 +, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 On 16/01/2012, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  Does
 
 dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
 
  get you what you want?
 
 
 Sorry, no. I'm looking to view the messages at bootup time before you
 logon, the ones that are too small to read in their text size and too
 faint as well.

You tried it? I had no effect? It wasn't the best of advice but the font
size should have been capable of being increased at some stage during
booting. The already suggested 'video=...' kernel parameter is probably
your best option.


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
Can you disrupt something if it is out of the ordinary while the system 
boots up?  If not, you may as well wait until after login to find out 
what happened.  The only possible case I can conceive of where what you 
want to do makes any sense is if a change was done to the system; the 
system is being rebooted, and there is a high probability you will never 
make it to login without disrupting the boot process to change 
something.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 On 16/01/2012, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote:
  No point in doing that at all.  If you want to see those messages after
  login as root or as sudo  root do dmesg dmesg.log.  Then less dmesg.log
  will let you view those messages one screen at a time.  Also for a
  particular issue of interest, dmesg | grep -in search_string will show
  specific lines of dmesg.log pertinent to your search.  I'm coming at
  this from a blindness perspective and use of speakup on my linux box and
  that for me makes life far easier over here.
 
 I'm coming at this from an ex-centos user and i like to see the
 messages as they happen before logon, so that I can spot anything out
 of the ordinary. Thats why I want them readable, and reading the log
 after logon is not acceptable.
 
 Thanks
 Sharon.
 
  On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 
  where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
  scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
  to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
  that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
  bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
  grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
  please?
 
 
 
 
 


Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net
http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html


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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-16 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/01/12 02:22, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 Can you disrupt something if it is out of the ordinary while the system 
 boots up?  

Yes.
SysRq[*1]

 If not, you may as well wait until after login to find out 
 what happened.  The only possible case I can conceive of where what you 
 want to do makes any sense is if a change was done to the system; the 
 system is being rebooted, and there is a high probability you will never 
 make it to login without disrupting the boot process to change 
 something.


I suspect you speak for many users Jude, for which reason I put a boot
splash up for them.

Some of prefer to know what's happening as it happens though. That's why
plymouth, and the quiet parameter are options.

And that's the beauty of Debian. We have choices instead of having our
options limited due to a narrow definitions of needs being foisted on us.

Instead of having a choice between a blackbox recorder *or* a windscreen
- we can have both. This allows people to know about minor problems or
warnings before they become show stoppers, without having to parse dmesg
(or /var/log/dmesg.0).


 
 On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 
 On 16/01/2012, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote:
 No point in doing that at all.  

snipped
[*1] If you have linux-source installed:-
$ mlocate sysrq.txt



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changing bootup parameters

2012-01-15 Thread Sharon Kimble
where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
please?

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
No point in doing that at all.  If you want to see those messages after 
login as root or as sudo  root do dmesg dmesg.log.  Then less dmesg.log 
will let you view those messages one screen at a time.  Also for a 
particular issue of interest, dmesg | grep -in search_string will show 
specific lines of dmesg.log pertinent to your search.  I'm coming at 
this from a blindness perspective and use of speakup on my linux box and 
that for me makes life far easier over here.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
 that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
 bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
 grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
 please?
 
 Thanks
 Sharon.
 


Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net
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Re: changing bootup parameters

2012-01-15 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 16/01/2012, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote:
 No point in doing that at all.  If you want to see those messages after
 login as root or as sudo  root do dmesg dmesg.log.  Then less dmesg.log
 will let you view those messages one screen at a time.  Also for a
 particular issue of interest, dmesg | grep -in search_string will show
 specific lines of dmesg.log pertinent to your search.  I'm coming at
 this from a blindness perspective and use of speakup on my linux box and
 that for me makes life far easier over here.

I'm coming at this from an ex-centos user and i like to see the
messages as they happen before logon, so that I can spot anything out
of the ordinary. Thats why I want them readable, and reading the log
after logon is not acceptable.

Thanks
Sharon.

 On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 where do I change the file output of the boot screen messages that
 scroll by so fast and are so small as to be unreadable before you get
 to the logon screen please? i want to make them bigger and brighter so
 that they are readable, like in RHEL, Fedora or Centos. this is during
 bootup and before the logon screen, and so far there is a parameter in
 grub which controls this, but what is it and how do i access it
 please?




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