Re: choose slackware or debian?

2002-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 19:25, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
 Hello list,
[snip]
 2. Debian has 3-tier open-developing model; slackware is kind of
 close and conservative  in this way

What is a 3-tier open-development model?

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Re: choose slackware or debian?

2002-04-17 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:04:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 19:25, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
  Hello list,
 [snip]
  2. Debian has 3-tier open-developing model; slackware is kind of
  close and conservative  in this way
 
 What is a 3-tier open-development model?

stable, testing, unstable
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html
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Re: choose slackware or debian?

2002-04-17 Thread David Smead
I'm getting into this discussion late.  Slackware 8 is extremely easy to
install and configure off the CD set.  It's the best example of generic
Linux from my config point of view.  I did have some issue with
partitioning the disk with lots of partitions which I favor.

On the other hand Debian appears easier to maintain and upgrade, but I'm
only guessing here because I'm still having install problems.  I want to
do some work on the LEAF project using a virtual environment and that's
being done on Debian hosts, so I figured I'd give Debian another try.

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http://www.amplepower.com.

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:04:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 19:25, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
   Hello list,
  [snip]
   2. Debian has 3-tier open-developing model; slackware is kind of
   close and conservative  in this way
 
  What is a 3-tier open-development model?

 stable, testing, unstable
 http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
 http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html



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Re: choose slackware or debian?

2002-04-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Patrick == Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Patrick My question is, how can I get the current development status
 Patrick of each, e.g. number of official developers of each and how
 Patrick did the number increase or decrease in the last years; how
 Patrick many packages currently in each distribution and how much
 Patrick user base of each?

Looking at the vote.debian.org pages, in 1999 there were 347
 developers, right now there are 939. And I think that looking at the
 Packages files for various versions shall tell you how many packages
 there were. Looking at the debian-history document, and looking at
 the current woody Packages files, we have:
 *sid  9038 packages
 * woody is not yet released   939 developers  8499 packages
 * potato is Debian 2.2 15 Aug 2000   ~450 developers ~3900 packages
 * slink  is Debian 2.1 09 Mar 1999347 developers ~2250 packages
 * hamm   is Debian 2.0Jul 1998347 developers ~1500 packages 
 * bo is Debian 1.3Jul 1997200 developers   974 packages
 * rexis Debian 1.2Dec 1996120 developers   848 packages
 * buzz   is Debian 1.1Jun 1996   ~ 80-100 developers   474 packages
 Debian 0.93R6 Nov 1995 60 developers
 Debian 0.93R5 Mar 1995
 Debian 0.91   Jan 1994 several dozen developers


manoj
 who joined between 0.93R5 and 0.93R6
-- 
 So we get to my point.  Surely people around here read things that
 aren't on the *Officially Sanctioned Cyberpunk Reading List*.  Surely
 we don't (any of us) really believe that there is some big, deep
 political and philosophical message in all this, do we?  So if this
 `cyberpunk' thing is just a term of convenience, how can somebody
 sell out?  If cyberpunk is just a word we use to describe a
 particular style and imagery in sf, how can it be dead?  Where are
 the profound statements that the `Movement' is or was trying to make?
 I think most of us are interested in examining and discussing
 literary (and musical) works that possess a certain stylistic
 excellence and perhaps a rather extreme perspective; this is what CP
 is all about, no?  Maybe there should be a newsgroup like, say,
 alt.postmodern or somthing.  Something less restrictive in scope than
 alt.cyberpunk. Jeff G. Bone
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choose slackware or debian?

2002-04-15 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello list,

We are planing to develop a next-generation server appliance as our
product. We used to develop from slackware 7.0 as the old version with
16MB DOM on it. However, we hope to use hard disk drive in the next
generation product.
Now, I am wondering if it is wise to change from slackware to debian as
the core Linux distribution in the next generation product platform. My
point is:


1. Debian has bigger development community than Slackware

2. Debian has 3-tier open-developing model; slackware is kind of
close and conservative  in this way

3. Debian has better package management and better system integrity,
which is a very important feature in a dedicated Linux server appliance;
Slacware bosats its system consistency and Unix tarball philosophy.

4. Debian has an open bug tracking system; Slackware does not(I can't
find any).


My question is, how can I get the current development status of each,
e.g. number of official developers of each and how did the number
increase or decrease in the last years; how many packages currently in
each distribution and how much user base of each?


I hope to get enough information to help me make the right decision.
Well, maybe I  also have to  evaluate other aspect in addition to
development model and its user base. Anyway, I wish to hear any
suggestions and information from here.


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