Re: computer security (online) training

2013-02-08 Thread owens






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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:48:45 -0500 
Harry Putnam  wrote: 

> 
> Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many 
> many computer security training sites and companies. I need a little 
> guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on 
> training. 
> 
Without having any direct experience in this area, my feeling would be 
(like you, possibly) that a lot of this kind of training might be poor 
value for money, and anything offered freely is likely to be out of 
date. 

Whatever you decide, there are useful sites and mailing lists you might 
keep up with in parallel to any specific training. Here is a good 
selection: http://seclists.org/ 

Here is the site I usually use to look up unusual activity on a 
particular port, and if I have a few spare minutes, I frighten myself by 
reading the last two or three diary entries: https://isc.sans.edu/ 

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Here is a link to the IEEE security website.  Normally IEEE is very current.

http://www.computer.org/portal/web/security/home

Larry

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Re: [OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-08 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> Sorry for taking advantage of the list a bit but as happens pretty
> often, this list is more likely to provide useful info on the subject.
>
> I want to begin some training in computer security... training I can
> do online... and hopefully a hands on approach.

Something I ran across, that I haven't had a chance to play with yet
is http://exploit-exercises.com/

>From the website:
"exploit-exercises.com provides a variety of virtual machines,
documentation and challenges that can be used to learn about a variety
of computer security issues such as privilege escalation,
vulnerability analysis, exploit development, debugging, reverse
engineering, and general cyber security issues."

--b

> I'm already an old man at 66 but would like to learn enough to get
> some kind of job involving comp security.
>
> I don't really need a job so far as having an income, since I'm
> already retired from field construction boilermaker trade with a
> decent pension, but I have lots of interest in security and have found
> through my life that there is nothing like having a job in a field to
> really make you learn the ropes.
>
> Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many
> many computer security training sites and companies.  I need a little
> guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on
> training.
>
> So, any advice on this would be most welcome.  Anyone who thinks it
> should go off list is welcome to email me:
>   reader AT newsguy DOT com
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-08 Thread Joe
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:48:45 -0500
Harry Putnam  wrote:

>
> Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many
> many computer security training sites and companies.  I need a little
> guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on
> training. 
> 
Without having any direct experience in this area, my feeling would be
(like you, possibly) that a lot of this kind of training might be poor
value for money, and anything offered freely is likely to be out of
date.

Whatever you decide, there are useful sites and mailing lists you might
keep up with in parallel to any specific training. Here is a good
selection: http://seclists.org/

Here is the site I usually use to look up unusual activity on a
particular port, and if I have a few spare minutes, I frighten myself by
reading the last two or three diary entries: https://isc.sans.edu/

-- 
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Re: [OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 09:15:26AM +0100, "Morel Bérenger" wrote:
> 
> I'm curious to look at other replies.

A good place to post would be
d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org.

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Re: [OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-08 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Ven 8 février 2013 8:24, lina a écrit :
> On Friday 08,February,2013 08:48 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Sorry for taking advantage of the list a bit but as happens pretty
>> often, this list is more likely to provide useful info on the subject.
>>
>> I want to begin some training in computer security... training I can
>> do online... and hopefully a hands on approach.
>>
>> I'm already an old man at 66 but would like to learn enough to get
>> some kind of job involving comp security.
>>
>> I don't really need a job so far as having an income, since I'm
>> already retired from field construction boilermaker trade with a decent
>> pension, but I have lots of interest in security and have found through
>> my life that there is nothing like having a job in a field to really
>> make you learn the ropes.
>>
>> Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many
>> many computer security training sites and companies.  I need a little
>> guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on
>> training.
>
> I don't know much of this area, but you may try
> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
>
>
>
>>
>> So, any advice on this would be most welcome.  Anyone who thinks it
>> should go off list is welcome to email me: reader AT newsguy DOT com

In first years of my love for computer sciences, I was interested in all
fields, except spending thousands of € in hardware.

My favorite was, and still is, programming, but thanks to some websites, I
was able to acquire some (basic, I did not spent enough time) knowledge in
other areas like system penetration and software reverse engineering
(well... ok, it was more about removal of protections on demos :D ).

For "pen-testing", I used to train myself on a website which was providing
various exercises (it is named newbiecontest, but is a French one).
Maybe you could find some in English...

A link I have found on "my" old (but still active, old as in memory) site
is http://w3challs.com/
It seems it provides an English interface, too, but I was not able to
force it.
I have not used it, so I can not guarantee you will find useful challenges
there, but it will probably send you on the good way to find interesting
contents.

Those websites are all about searching yourself how to go through the
securities they placed for you, so it is only learning by doing. Sometimes
they have some documents to explain basics, but those are basics.
Maybe with backtrack you could find interesting theoretic lessons, and so
you could use them on those sites.

I'm curious to look at other replies.


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Re: [OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-07 Thread lina
On Friday 08,February,2013 08:48 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Sorry for taking advantage of the list a bit but as happens pretty
> often, this list is more likely to provide useful info on the subject.
> 
> I want to begin some training in computer security... training I can
> do online... and hopefully a hands on approach.
> 
> I'm already an old man at 66 but would like to learn enough to get
> some kind of job involving comp security. 
> 
> I don't really need a job so far as having an income, since I'm
> already retired from field construction boilermaker trade with a
> decent pension, but I have lots of interest in security and have found
> through my life that there is nothing like having a job in a field to
> really make you learn the ropes.
> 
> Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many
> many computer security training sites and companies.  I need a little
> guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on
> training. 

I don't know much of this area, but you may try
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/


> 
> So, any advice on this would be most welcome.  Anyone who thinks it
> should go off list is welcome to email me:
>   reader AT newsguy DOT com
> 
> 
> 


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[OT] computer security (online) training

2013-02-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for taking advantage of the list a bit but as happens pretty
often, this list is more likely to provide useful info on the subject.

I want to begin some training in computer security... training I can
do online... and hopefully a hands on approach.

I'm already an old man at 66 but would like to learn enough to get
some kind of job involving comp security. 

I don't really need a job so far as having an income, since I'm
already retired from field construction boilermaker trade with a
decent pension, but I have lots of interest in security and have found
through my life that there is nothing like having a job in a field to
really make you learn the ropes.

Cutting to the chase... after googling around I see there are many
many computer security training sites and companies.  I need a little
guidance to paring them down with my main criteria being hands on
training. 

So, any advice on this would be most welcome.  Anyone who thinks it
should go off list is welcome to email me:
  reader AT newsguy DOT com



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