Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/11/2014, Joel Rees  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Larry Owens  wrote:
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bret Busby [mailto:bret.bu...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:03 AM
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already
>>
>> On 24/11/2014, Curt  wrote:
>>> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:
>>>
>>>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.



> heh
>
>> rule allows you to evaluate a function expressed as a ratio at a limit
>> where both the numerator and the denominator tend to zero.
>
> I think the zero is what has everyone -- on all sides -- worried.
>

Reminds me of what I believe to be The Zeroth Law Of Thermodynamics,
whereby everything tends toward Chaos...

:)


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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Larry Owens  wrote:
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bret Busby [mailto:bret.bu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:03 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already
>
> On 24/11/2014, Curt  wrote:
>> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:
>>
>>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.
>>>
>>
>> L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
>>
>>
>
> I think that, in one of the sciences, was a "L'Hopital's Rule", but, do not 
> remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule.
>
> Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has something to do with mosques and 
> charities and hospitals?
>
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,  you'll know what the 
> answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> 
> Not that it is relevant to the discussion but L'Hospitals

heh

> rule allows you to evaluate a function expressed as a ratio at a limit
> where both the numerator and the denominator tend to zero.

I think the zero is what has everyone -- on all sides -- worried.

> Larry

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RE: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Larry Owens


-Original Message-
From: Bret Busby [mailto:bret.bu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:03 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

On 24/11/2014, Curt  wrote:
> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:
>
>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.
>>
>
> L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
>
>

I think that, in one of the sciences, was a "L'Hopital's Rule", but, do not 
remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule.

Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has something to do with mosques and 
charities and hospitals?


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,  you'll know what the 
answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992


Not that it is relevant to the discussion but L'Hospitals rule allows you to 
evaluate a function expressed as a ratio at a limit where both the numerator 
and the denominator tend to zero.
Larry

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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 03:38, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:
> 
>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.
>>
> 
> L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
> 
> 
:)
Apt. (In English "Pot, meet kettle")


Kind regards




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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Ron
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:03:20 +0800
Bret Busby  wrote:

> > L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
> >
> >  
> 
> I think that, in one of the sciences, was a "L'Hopital's Rule", but,
> do not remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule.
> 
> Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has something to do with
> mosques and charities and hospitals?

L'Hopital and La Charité were the two main Paris hospitals in the middle-ages, 
the one run by the city, and the other by the Church; and both were just 
equally bad in how fast their patients died off 
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Bret Busby  wrote:
>>
>> L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
>>
> I think that, in one of the sciences, was a "L'Hopital's Rule", but,
> do not remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule.

My etymological sources tell me that from the end of the Middle Ages to
the beginning of the Renaissance, in large European cities, there was a
certain rivalry between publicly-administered hospitals and
religiously-administered charities in treating the sick and the poor.

> Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has something to do with
> mosques and charities and hospitals?

Moquer (to mock), not mosquée (mosque). The expression signifies that
before criticizing others, you should make sure that you yourself are
beyond reproach.


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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/11/2014, Curt  wrote:
> On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:
>
>> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.
>>
>
> L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?
>
>

I think that, in one of the sciences, was a "L'Hopital's Rule", but,
do not remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule.

Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has something to do with
mosques and charities and hospitals?


-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992




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Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman  wrote:

> To any listmasters that might be paying attention.
>

L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité?


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enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman

To any listmasters that might be paying attention.

Perhaps it's time to establish  policy that meta-meta-discussions about 
what's on-topic and what's not, are themselves off-topic, and grounds 
for moderation?  All of the wrangling, degenerating into name calling, 
conspiracy theories, and profanity seems to be eating up far, far more 
bandwidth than any of the topics that are being discussed (it seems like 
a mention of systemd - be it a pro statement, an anti statement, a 
complaint about the TC decision, or even a legitimate bug report or 
support question, leads to dozens of "that's offtopic" and "no it's not" 
exchanges).  Lots of noise, not at all productive, maybe it's time for 
someone to put their foot down?


Respectfully,

Miles Fidelman

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