exim4 upgrade warning DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF found in exim configuration fix
I stumbled across this while upgrading to testing an thought it might be useful for others. If you see this when upgrading exim4-config: DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF found in exim configuration. This is most probably caused by you upgrading to exim4 4.67-3 or later without accepting the suggested conffile changes. Please read /usr/share/doc/exim4-config/NEWS.Debian.gz for 4.67-2 and 4.67-4 ...remove all *.dpkg-old files under your /etc/exim4/conf.d/ directory. Then re-run update-exim4.conf. That should get rid of the warning. - Ryan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
sa-exim configuration
Hi, My SA-exim seem to run but does let spam through. From the headers it seem sa-exim simply does not scan mail: X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 80.108.137.150X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on localhost.localdomain); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Any suggestions why it doesn't scan it? According to instructions in the package it should run out-of-the-box, as long as spamd is up, which it it. TIA, -a
Re: sa-exim configuration
On 11/2/05, Aaron Stromas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My SA-exim seem to run but does let spam through. From the headers it seem sa-exim simply does not scan mail: X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 80.108.137.150X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on localhost.localdomain); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Any suggestions why it doesn't scan it? According to instructions in the package it should run out-of-the-box, as long as spamd is up, which it it. TIA, -a Never mind, I see that SAEximRunCond=0 in sa-exim.conf -a
Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 10:23:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to have gotten most important things to work. One thing I miss that I need is a quick way to set the From: field since I have three different email addresses that I send messages from. ... Ungh, one of the most bass-ackwards things that test mailers still cling to after two decades. The antiquated notion that people want to merge all their mail from different addresses into a single stream only to jump through a dozen or so hoops to split it back out. Whole reason I don't use mutt. I'm not keen on setting folder-hooks for every folder I ever create without a single notion of inheritance of settings. Even worse is trying to keep all the outbound mail separate. *shudder* Seriously, what problems are you having with TBird? Let's get that running so you don't have to suffer the horrors of an MUA stuck in the 1990s. This just appeared after upgrading some other packages on my sid desktop. After starting TBird from either menu or command line 'ps' says it's running but it never appears. The other reason I'm solving these problems is that I have a very slow laptop that I read my mail with when I'm away from home and TBird is much too slow there. Another important feature that I haven't found yet is a good way to filter messages automatically. It looks like the 'mailbox' is part of the answer. Mutt doesn't filter. Exim does. Ignore the inevitable procmail rawks! people who spawn from the woodwork any time mutt and filter are uttered in the same message together. Exim filters. Exim's filter language doesn't look like line noise from a 9600 USRobotics on a phone line routed through Pango Pango. Why run an additional program when then MTA does it just fine? Peruse exim.org's documentation, esp. the portion marked filter specification. I use Exim's filtering here because Thunderbird does not filter IMAP accounts. :( Thanks. I'll check that out. I do actually plan to set up an IMAP server at home when I have time. Right now the port forwarding on my DSL modem/router is not working. (I just tried to set it up earlier today). Thanks, -- Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 10:57:47PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 10:23:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Seriously, what problems are you having with TBird? Let's get that running so you don't have to suffer the horrors of an MUA stuck in the 1990s. This just appeared after upgrading some other packages on my sid desktop. After starting TBird from either menu or command line 'ps' says it's running but it never appears. BTW I tried KMail and it wouldn't start either. -- Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:44:17PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:29:14PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: It is probably so that your own box tries to deliver the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and fails. Then it sends the failure to the sender which in this case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which should also fail because it shouldn't go to the smarthost either. Try removing the ultrasw.com from the dc_other_hostnames list. Now I get no feedback on test messages but they're not getting through either. I will try to send this as a test and I will also send it by webmail. Thanks for reminding me about mainlog. I'm also getting a lot of these which may be from a bad fetchmail config. 2005-09-02 18:32:29 1EBMtO-0007uZ-9Q == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost def\ er (0): SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2875: host \ mail.ultrasw.com [66.181.240.7]: 451 4.7.0 Could not identify sender - DNS error 9002 Thanks, Paul Now it seems that exim sends the mail to smarthost eventhough the mail is from fetchmail and is meant for you. What is your fetchmailrc like? Mine is like this: poll incoming.myisp.com user username_in_isp password secret is username_local_user Also make sure that your /etc/mailname is set correctly. I have something.myisp.com (where something is the dynamic part of my FQDN) as the mailname and I also have that in the dc_other_hostnames list. I guess the main problem here is the name of your machine. See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: simple exim configuration
From: Simo PW Kauppi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:44:17PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Thanks for reminding me about mainlog. I'm also getting a lot of these which may be from a bad fetchmail config. 2005-09-02 18:32:29 1EBMtO-0007uZ-9Q == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost def\ er (0): SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2875: host \ mail.ultrasw.com [66.181.240.7]: 451 4.7.0 Could not identify sender - DNS error 9002 Now it seems that exim sends the mail to smarthost eventhough the mail is from fetchmail and is meant for you. I have been looking for documentation thats tells me more about how this all works and have not been completely successful. If I send a test message to my email address I want exim to send it to my ISP and then fetchmail to retrieve it. If I send a message to debian-user I want exim to send it to debian-user. What is your fetchmailrc like? # Configuration created Thu Dec 19 13:49:58 2002 by fetchmailconf set postmaster paul set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties set daemon 1 poll ultrasw.com via mail.ultrasw.com with proto POP3 user 'waterhorse' there with password 'secret' is 'waterhorse' here options fetchall #user 'paslist' there with password 'secret' is 'paslist' here options fetchall user 'pslist' there with password 'secret' is 'pslist' here options fetchall I have three mailboxes. I have stopped fetching mail from the one that is subscribed to debian-user so I can maintain a proper thread. I now remember that I may have changed the 'is' values to my login name here when I was working on this same problem on my laptop. I will change the is' values now. Mine is like this: poll incoming.myisp.com user username_in_isp password secret is username_local_user Also make sure that your /etc/mailname is set correctly. I have something.myisp.com (where something is the dynamic part of my FQDN) as the mailname and I also have that in the dc_other_hostnames list. I guess the main problem here is the name of your machine. /etc/mailname is blank. Do you mean that I should use mail.ultrasw.com ? See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. I don't quite know what to do with that information. I understand that the last paragraph refers to something I have been told about but don't know what to do about. Thanks, Paul
Re: Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 12:20:11AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: From: Simo PW Kauppi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:44:17PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Thanks for reminding me about mainlog. I'm also getting a lot of these which may be from a bad fetchmail config. 2005-09-02 18:32:29 1EBMtO-0007uZ-9Q == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost def\ er (0): SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2875: host \ mail.ultrasw.com [66.181.240.7]: 451 4.7.0 Could not identify sender - DNS error 9002 Now it seems that exim sends the mail to smarthost eventhough the mail is from fetchmail and is meant for you. I have been looking for documentation thats tells me more about how this all works and have not been completely successful. If I send a test message to my email address I want exim to send it to my ISP and then fetchmail to retrieve it. If I send a message to debian-user I want exim to send it to debian-user. What is your fetchmailrc like? # Configuration created Thu Dec 19 13:49:58 2002 by fetchmailconf set postmaster paul set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties set daemon 1 poll ultrasw.com via mail.ultrasw.com with proto POP3 user 'waterhorse' there with password 'secret' is 'waterhorse' here options fetchall #user 'paslist' there with password 'secret' is 'paslist' here options fetchall user 'pslist' there with password 'secret' is 'pslist' here options fetchall I have three mailboxes. I have stopped fetching mail from the one that is subscribed to debian-user so I can maintain a proper thread. I now remember that I may have changed the 'is' values to my login name here when I was working on this same problem on my laptop. I will change the is' values now. The is value should be your local username i.e. in your case I guess 'paul' in all three accounts (if you want all three accounts to deliver mail to user 'paul'). Mine is like this: poll incoming.myisp.com user username_in_isp password secret is username_local_user Also make sure that your /etc/mailname is set correctly. I have something.myisp.com (where something is the dynamic part of my FQDN) as the mailname and I also have that in the dc_other_hostnames list. I guess the main problem here is the name of your machine. /etc/mailname is blank. Do you mean that I should use mail.ultrasw.com ? No, the /etc/mailname is used to resolve the domain part of the email address. If you send mail to e.g. paul (without any @something), then whatever is in your /etc/mailname is appended to the username with @. See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. I don't quite know what to do with that information. I understand that the last paragraph refers to something I have been told about but don't know what to do about. It describes the problem about the name resolving. I.e. when your exim sends the mail to the smarthost, it must tell the smarthost where the connection is coming from. More often than not, the name must match the the name which the smarthost gets when doing the reverse DNS. I'm not sure, but I think the exim uses the /etc/mailname to tell the smarthost where the mail is coming from. In exim4-config the /etc/mailname is called visible_name (if I recall correctly). Thanks, Paul After fixing the is-parameters, you could try to set the visible_name to 'localhost' and check the exim log for the results. Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: simple exim configuration
From: Simo PW Kauppi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/3/2005 2:20:56 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Re: simple exim configuration The is value should be your local username i.e. in your case I guess 'paul' in all three accounts (if you want all three accounts to deliver mail to user 'paul'). done. This allowed me to send a message to paslist which is not currently being read by fetchmail but messages to waterhorse or pslist are frozen along with many others. I guess the main problem here is the name of your machine. /etc/mailname is blank. Do you mean that I should use mail.ultrasw.com ? No, the /etc/mailname is used to resolve the domain part of the email address. If you send mail to e.g. paul (without any @something), then whatever is in your /etc/mailname is appended to the username with @. So my machine name is 'joy'. Is that what I should use? See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. It describes the problem about the name resolving. I.e. when your exim sends the mail to the smarthost, it must tell the smarthost where the connection is coming from. More often than not, the name must match the the name which the smarthost gets when doing the reverse DNS. How do I know what that would be? ultrasw.com ? I'm not sure, but I think the exim uses the /etc/mailname to tell the smarthost where the mail is coming from. In exim4-config the /etc/mailname is called visible_name (if I recall correctly). That's not in any of my exim4 config files except: conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:.ifndef DC_visiblename conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:DC_visiblename=DEBCONFvisiblenameDEBCONF conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:.ifdef DC_visiblename conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:qualify_domain = DC_visiblename After fixing the is-parameters, you could try to set the visible_name to 'localhost' and check the exim log for the results. Since I am using dpkg-reconfigure where would I change this without interfering with debconf? I have learned about eximon and I have a large number of frozen messages. Can I free them up without losing them? I found /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz and learned to set /etc/email-addresses. Now I can send myself test messages at both addresses that fetchmail is currently reading! I have also just sent a test message to another list I am subscribed to! Now I just need to be able to set the 'From:' address in mutt so I can sent messages to lists that need the from address to be different than waterhorse. Thank you so much for your patience, Paul
Re: Re: Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 03:45:52AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: From: Simo PW Kauppi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/3/2005 2:20:56 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Re: simple exim configuration The is value should be your local username i.e. in your case I guess 'paul' in all three accounts (if you want all three accounts to deliver mail to user 'paul'). done. This allowed me to send a message to paslist which is not currently being read by fetchmail but messages to waterhorse or pslist are frozen along with many others. I guess the main problem here is the name of your machine. /etc/mailname is blank. Do you mean that I should use mail.ultrasw.com ? No, the /etc/mailname is used to resolve the domain part of the email address. If you send mail to e.g. paul (without any @something), then whatever is in your /etc/mailname is appended to the username with @. So my machine name is 'joy'. Is that what I should use? It should be the Fully Qualified Domain Name, i.e. something.ultrasw.com Like I said the problem here is that since you are probably using a dynamic IP, your FQDN also changes when you get a different IP. That's why I suggested you try to put 'localhost' in there. The problem with this might be that your ISP's mail.ultrasw.com does not accept it, but you can verify that from the exim logfile. See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. It describes the problem about the name resolving. I.e. when your exim sends the mail to the smarthost, it must tell the smarthost where the connection is coming from. More often than not, the name must match the the name which the smarthost gets when doing the reverse DNS. How do I know what that would be? ultrasw.com ? Try nslookup your.ip.address or traceroute your.ip.address I'm not sure, but I think the exim uses the /etc/mailname to tell the smarthost where the mail is coming from. In exim4-config the /etc/mailname is called visible_name (if I recall correctly). That's not in any of my exim4 config files except: conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:.ifndef DC_visiblename conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:DC_visiblename=DEBCONFvisiblenameDEBCONF conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:.ifdef DC_visiblename conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:qualify_domain = DC_visiblename It seems to be called System mail name in the dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config -dialog. After fixing the is-parameters, you could try to set the visible_name to 'localhost' and check the exim log for the results. Since I am using dpkg-reconfigure where would I change this without interfering with debconf? I have learned about eximon and I have a large number of frozen messages. Can I free them up without losing them? I'm sure you can. They should be purged automatically when the setup is fixed. There seems to be an old thread concerning this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/03/msg00402.html I found /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz and learned to set /etc/email-addresses. Now I can send myself test messages at both addresses that fetchmail is currently reading! I have also just sent a test message to another list I am subscribed to! Now I just need to be able to set the 'From:' address in mutt so I can sent messages to lists that need the from address to be different than waterhorse. I use: set edit_headers my_hdr From: Me Myself [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you so much for your patience, Paul Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 02:18:20PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: No, the /etc/mailname is used to resolve the domain part of the email address. If you send mail to e.g. paul (without any @something), then whatever is in your /etc/mailname is appended to the username with @. That's why I suggested you try to put 'localhost' in there. The problem with this might be that your ISP's mail.ultrasw.com does not accept it, but you can verify that from the exim logfile. Apparently setting /etc/email-addresses solves this problem and the G11 problem. See also the question G11 in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html. I have learned about eximon and I have a large number of frozen messages. Can I free them up without losing them? I'm sure you can. They should be purged automatically when the setup is fixed. There seems to be an old thread concerning this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/03/msg00402.html I followed that thread just now and haven't yet discovered how to see whether I want to lose those messages. Now I just need to be able to set the 'From:' address in mutt so I can sent messages to lists that need the from address to be different than waterhorse. I use: set edit_headers my_hdr From: Me Myself [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will try that when I send this. Thanks again for your help, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
simple exim configuration
I have read the info file and some man pages and experimented and don't know how to get exim to deliver mail to a remote site. I am using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to configure. See file below. My ISP returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unrouteable address I have an idea that there is something about the other addresses in the header that don't match. Any help, FM's to read would be appreciated. TIA, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf # /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf # # Edit this file and /etc/mailname by hand and execute update-exim4.conf # yourself or use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='joy:ultrasw.com' dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1' dc_readhost='' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='mail.ultrasw.com' CFILEMODE='644' dc_use_split_config='true' dc_hide_mailname='false' dc_mailname_in_oh='true'
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:42:57AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I have read the info file and some man pages and experimented and don't know how to get exim to deliver mail to a remote site. I am using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to configure. See file below. My ISP returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unrouteable address Are you sure this comes from your ISP? I have an idea that there is something about the other addresses in the header that don't match. Any help, FM's to read would be appreciated. TIA, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf # /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf # # Edit this file and /etc/mailname by hand and execute update-exim4.conf # yourself or use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='joy:ultrasw.com' It seems that you have defined ultrasw.com not to go to the smarthost. That means that mail adressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] stays in your own box. That's ok, if your box really is ultrasw.com which it probably is not. If you have a dynamic IP, you most likely also have a dynamic FQDN something.ultrasw.com, which should be among dc_other_hostnames. dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1' dc_readhost='' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='mail.ultrasw.com' CFILEMODE='644' dc_use_split_config='true' dc_hide_mailname='false' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:49:29PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:42:57AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I have read the info file and some man pages and experimented and don't know how to get exim to deliver mail to a remote site. I am using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to configure. See file below. My ISP returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unrouteable address With my current set up I don't think I can maintain a proper thread. Are you sure this comes from your ISP? Not completely but this was part of the header: From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ultrasw.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is another of my mailboxes and was apprarently the from address for my test message.) Thanks, Paul
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 01:07:10PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:49:29PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:42:57AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I have read the info file and some man pages and experimented and don't know how to get exim to deliver mail to a remote site. I am using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to configure. See file below. My ISP returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unrouteable address With my current set up I don't think I can maintain a proper thread. Are you sure this comes from your ISP? Not completely but this was part of the header: From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ultrasw.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is another of my mailboxes and was apprarently the from address for my test message.) Thanks, Paul Sorry, I forgot to mention: After you send the message, you can tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog to see whether the message went to the smarthost or not. Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 01:07:10PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:49:29PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:42:57AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I have read the info file and some man pages and experimented and don't know how to get exim to deliver mail to a remote site. I am using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to configure. See file below. My ISP returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unrouteable address With my current set up I don't think I can maintain a proper thread. Are you sure this comes from your ISP? Not completely but this was part of the header: From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ultrasw.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is another of my mailboxes and was apprarently the from address for my test message.) Thanks, Paul It is probably so that your own box tries to deliver the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and fails. Then it sends the failure to the sender which in this case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which should also fail because it shouldn't go to the smarthost either. Try removing the ultrasw.com from the dc_other_hostnames list. Simo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:29:14PM +0300, Simo PW Kauppi wrote: It is probably so that your own box tries to deliver the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and fails. Then it sends the failure to the sender which in this case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which should also fail because it shouldn't go to the smarthost either. Try removing the ultrasw.com from the dc_other_hostnames list. Now I get no feedback on test messages but they're not getting through either. I will try to send this as a test and I will also send it by webmail. Thanks for reminding me about mainlog. I'm also getting a lot of these which may be from a bad fetchmail config. 2005-09-02 18:32:29 1EBMtO-0007uZ-9Q == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost def\ er (0): SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2875: host \ mail.ultrasw.com [66.181.240.7]: 451 4.7.0 Could not identify sender - DNS error 9002 Thanks, Paul
What is the program to reset Exim configuration??
It's been a long time but I remember there is a console program that will ask me a number of quesions about my Exim setup like Using Smarthost, name of smarthost, etc What is this program called? For the life of me I cannot remember. Lance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the program to reset Exim configuration??
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 04:43:52PM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: It's been a long time but I remember there is a console program that will ask me a number of quesions about my Exim setup like Using Smarthost, name of smarthost, etc What is this program called? For the life of me I cannot remember. eximconfig(for exim3) dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (for exim4) -- Thomas Adam -- Frankly, Mr. Shankly, since you ask. You are a flatulent pain in the arse. -- Morrissey. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the program to reset Exim configuration??
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 04:43:52PM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: It's been a long time but I remember there is a console program that will ask me a number of quesions about my Exim setup like Using Smarthost, name of smarthost, etc What is this program called? For the life of me I cannot remember. eximconfig Is that what you're looking for? If you're using an ISP-provided email server you will also need fetchmail and may need a few arcane clauses in your /etc/exim/exim.conf (the Manual is your Friend). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the program to reset Exim configuration??
Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: It's been a long time but I remember there is a console program that will ask me a number of quesions about my Exim setup like Using Smarthost, name of smarthost, etc What is this program called? For the life of me I cannot remember. Lance I believe dpkg-reconfigure exim will do that for you. Digi -- http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster The most costly of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind. -- H.L. Mencken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: I see. I wonder if it's too much to ask, if you would post a message here when it's finished? Finally got some time to do it. But I think I missed todays deadline for getting into the archive. If so, it will be in unstable tomorrow. I've tried a new (to me) technique for detecting which configuration to use. I've tested it and I'm pretty sure it works but if you notice anything, please file a report via the bug tracking system (http://bugs.debian.org/) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmin-exim configuration problems.
Hi all, I have exim4 installed and running fine, I'm using the single /etc/exim4/exim4.conf file method of configuration. I have installed the webmin-exim package but it's giving me this error: Unable to find the exim binary or it's configuration file. If Exim is installed on your system try the module configuration. In module configuration I have: Exim executable /etc/init.d/exim4 Exim configuration file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf Is this wrong? Or is the package broken? Ralph -- Linux - to keep you humble. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Hi all, I have exim4 installed and running fine, I'm using the single /etc/exim4/exim4.conf file method of configuration. I have installed the webmin-exim package but it's giving me this error: Unable to find the exim binary or it's configuration file. If Exim is installed on your system try the module configuration. In module configuration I have: Exim executable /etc/init.d/exim4 Exim configuration file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf Is this wrong? Or is the package broken? It's not so much much broken as only designed for exim3. There is a newer version that supports both 3 and 4 but I've been sitting on packaging it. Time to get a move on I suppose. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
I see. I wonder if it's too much to ask, if you would post a message here when it's finished? Anyway, Thanks. At least I know what's wrong. Ralph On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Hi all, I have exim4 installed and running fine, I'm using the single /etc/exim4/exim4.conf file method of configuration. I have installed the webmin-exim package but it's giving me this error: Unable to find the exim binary or it's configuration file. If Exim is installed on your system try the module configuration. In module configuration I have: Exim executable /etc/init.d/exim4 Exim configuration file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf Is this wrong? Or is the package broken? It's not so much much broken as only designed for exim3. There is a newer version that supports both 3 and 4 but I've been sitting on packaging it. Time to get a move on I suppose. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- Linux - to keep you humble. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
In module configuration I have: Exim executable /etc/init.d/exim4 this souhld be /usr/sbin/exim or something.. cheers, http://www.axeltabs.com/ __ axel __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim configuration: smarthost and address rewriting
Greetings, all.
I'm having a little difficulty with exim configuration. Debian stable,
exim 3.35-1woody2.
This is a home system, set up to deliver all outgoing mail through a
smarthost. I ran eximconfig, selected the smarthost option, and entered
the relevant data to get my basic exim.conf file. Since then, I've made
the following changes:
*** exim.conf.orig Fri Apr 23 06:56:48 2004
--- exim.conf Fri Apr 23 07:08:00 2004
***
*** 29,35
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.
! # qualify_recipient =
# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
--- 29,35
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.
! qualify_recipient = localhost
# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
***
*** 40,46
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.
! local_domains = localhost:comcast.net
# Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address.
--- 40,46
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.
! local_domains = localhost:home.rcc
# Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address.
***
*** 413,418
--- 413,420
# don't have their own domain, but could be useful for anyone.
# It looks up the real address of all local users in a file
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] h
+
[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
{$value}fail} frFs
There's another hunk enabling authenticated connections, required by my
smarthost, but I'm omitting that here to avoid broadcasting my passwords
to all and sundry. I don't think it's relevant to my question, in any
case.
I should point out that I have (deliberately) given my machine a bogus
hostname, nanny-ogg.home.rcc, to avoid collisions. And my user name on
my local machine is `cobbe'.
In general, all of this works correctly. Mail that I send from cobbe's
account is correctly routed through the smarthost to its destination,
and it is labeled as coming from the address [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which is the desired result. Additionally, mail that is sent to
root is handled according to the local alias file, *not* routed up to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (who, I'm sure, really doesn't want my logcheck output).
There's just one minor fly in the ointment left: mail that is sent from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (as by logcheck, for instance) is rewritten to appear as
coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd really like to have exim configured
to leave sender addresses of [EMAIL PROTECTED] alone, but it's not clear to
me from the Exim manual how to disable the qualify_domain rewriting for
a single local address.
Could anyone point me in the right direction, please?
Thanks very much for any help,
Richard
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Re: Mailman and Exim configuration
Everything is from latest stable branch: 1) I've got Exim and Apache setup and working well. 2) I installed the Mailman package. Everything seems to be working well (listinfo and admin pages display fine, newlist works, etc.) except it won't send anything out, ever. I've googled and googled and followed all the documentation, how-to's and FAQs I can find but nothing seems to help. All I know are these two cryptic entries: /var/log/mailman/smtp: Apr 05 06:26:04 2004 (18547) All recipients refused: (-1, 'version 3.35 debug l vel 9 uid=8 gid=8') /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure: Apr 11 17:16:03 2004 (910) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (version 3.35 debug l vel 9 uid=8 gid=8) There are no related entries in the exim logs. Any ideas? At 05:45 04/12/2004, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: For a serious list setup, I'd recommend using newer versions of mailman and exim. Switching to Exim4 really is worth the trouble. # Exim4 backport deb http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/exim4manpages/ woody/ # GnuTLS backports needed for tls-enabled exim4 deb http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/gnutls/ woody/ # Mailman backport - I get clamav spamassassin razor as well here so I can # drop spam and virus messages easily. deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable mailman I used the Mailman backport and now get the slightly less cryptic: /var/log/mailman/smtp: Apr 21 16:35:45 2004 (2892) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: icheep in local_domains? yes (matched reepicheep) It appears Mailman is trying to use a partial part (icheep) of the host name (reepicheep) in its delivery attempts. Any ideas why or how to fix? Thanks, Harley Pebley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailman and Exim configuration
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 18:26:28 -0600, Harley Pebley wrote: Everything is from latest stable branch: For a serious list setup, I'd recommend using newer versions of mailman and exim. Switching to Exim4 really is worth the trouble. # Exim4 backport deb http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/exim4manpages/ woody/ # GnuTLS backports needed for tls-enabled exim4 deb http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/gnutls/ woody/ # Mailman backport - I get clamav spamassassin razor as well here so I can # drop spam and virus messages easily. deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable mailman HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mailman and Exim configuration
Everything is from latest stable branch: 1) I've got Exim and Apache setup and working well. 2) I installed the Mailman package. Everything seems to be working well (listinfo and admin pages display fine, newlist works, etc.) except it won't send anything out, ever. I've googled and googled and followed all the documentation, how-to's and FAQs I can find but nothing seems to help. All I know are these two cryptic entries: /var/log/mailman/smtp: Apr 05 06:26:04 2004 (18547) All recipients refused: (-1, 'version 3.35 debug l vel 9 uid=8 gid=8') /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure: Apr 11 17:16:03 2004 (910) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (version 3.35 debug l vel 9 uid=8 gid=8) There are no related entries in the exim logs. Any ideas? Thanks, Harley Pebley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EXIM configuration question
I am puzzled about how to configure this. It is probably one line but I missed it. I want to configure it so that it first attempts to deliver directly. Then if it fails delivers through the ISP's relay. Background ... It's easy to configure it to always deliver directly. That works except for certain sites (AOL) that block addresses that are listed in dynamic IP blocks. (well known problem) It's easy to configure it to always relay through my ISP's relay. It's easy to have certain listed destinations delivered through my ISP's relay, and those not listed delivered directly. I am using: Exim version 3.36 #1 built 11-Dec-2003 11:35:23 on sid. What I would like is for something to make the decision automatically without explicitly listing the problem sites. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim configuration, second router not used
Hi All, I've got the following routers configured in my exim.conf file: smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = * fermi.bjh bydns_a lookuphost: driver = lookuphost transport = remote_smtp end This is on a laptop. When the laptop is in the office, the first router delivers email fine. However when I am outside the office I was hoping that the first router would fail (as it can't look up fermi.dns on the internal dns server), and then use the second router. However it doesn't seem to ever use the second router. An example from my log file looks like this: 2003-08-19 20:59:28 19p2vR-rs-00 Unfrozen by forced delivery 2003-08-19 20:59:29 19p2vR-rs-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smar thost defer (-1): lookup of host fermi.bjh failed in smarthost router 2003-08-19 20:59:29 19p4D3-0001fk-00 = R=19p2vR-rs-00 U=mail P=local S=554 2003-08-19 20:59:29 19p2vR-rs-00 Frozen 2003-08-19 20:59:29 19p4D3-0001fk-00 = ghc [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=real_local T=local_delivery 2003-08-19 20:59:29 19p4D3-0001fk-00 Completed The second email (id 19p4D3-0001fk-00) is a local mail telling me it failed to deliver. Can anyone tell me why my configuration is working? I had to comment out smarthost to send any email! Thanks, Geoff PS. Please CC me, I'm not on the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
Engosh wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure a mail server at home. I'm using exim, fetchmail and procmail. By now I can send mails to my box from local, but I don't know what I have to do to be able to receive mails from the internet. Do you know how to do it? Thanx. Engosh Have you RTFM? A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
On Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 03:51:14AM +0100, Engosh wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:35:03 +0100 Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Engosh wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure a mail server at home. I'm using exim, fetchmail and procmail. By now I can send mails to my box from local, but I don't know what I have to do to be able to receive mails from the internet. Do you know how to do it? Thanx. Engosh Have you RTFM? I'm sorry but I don't know what RTFM means... ;) Well, literally, it means Read The Fucking Manual. It is slang, commonly used in newsgroups and mailing lists. Generally, a question like 'have you RTFM?' means that your issue is well documented in the manual. In your case, you could try running eximconfig and answering the questions. Of course, for your mail addresses to work from the internet, you should have a valid domain name. An e-mail address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] only works if your computer is accessible from the internet as myserver.somedomain.net. BTW, you might want to check your system date. It is set to Friday, 1st of January, 1999. Unless you have discovered time-travel or we mysteriously communicate through a wormhole, this is not correct. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exim configuration
Hi, I'm trying to configure a mail server at home. I'm using exim, fetchmail and procmail. By now I can send mails to my box from local, but I don't know what I have to do to be able to receive mails from the internet. Do you know how to do it? Thanx. Engosh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
On Fri, 1999-01-01 at 03:51, Engosh wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:35:03 +0100 Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you RTFM? I'm sorry but I don't know what RTFM means... ;) WWJD? He would RTFM! What Would Josh Do? He would Read The Fine[1] Manual. [1] Some think the F == Fscked or phucked or eff'd or Fscking or phucking or Eff'ing -- Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:57:25 +0200 David Fokkema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 03:51:14AM +0100, Engosh wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:35:03 +0100 Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Engosh wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure a mail server at home. I'm using exim, fetchmail and procmail. By now I can send mails to my box from local, but I don't know what I have to do to be able to receive mails from the internet. Do you know how to do it? Thanx. Engosh Have you RTFM? I'm sorry but I don't know what RTFM means... ;) Well, literally, it means Read The Fucking Manual. It is slang, commonly used in newsgroups and mailing lists. Generally, a question like 'have you RTFM?' means that your issue is well documented in the manual. Thanx for you help.. In your case, you could try running eximconfig and answering the questions. Of course, for your mail addresses to work from the internet, you should have a valid domain name. An e-mail address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] only works if your computer is accessible from the internet as myserver.somedomain.net. I already have one of these domains. I'll try with the eximconfig again. BTW, you might want to check your system date. It is set to Friday, 1st of January, 1999. Unless you have discovered time-travel or we mysteriously communicate through a wormhole, this is not correct. Done. Sorry I was trying different kernels, and maybe that's why it was that way I didn't see that. Thanx HTH, David Engosh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:35:03 +0100 Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Engosh wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure a mail server at home. I'm using exim, fetchmail and procmail. By now I can send mails to my box from local, but I don't know what I have to do to be able to receive mails from the internet. Do you know how to do it? Thanx. Engosh Have you RTFM? I'm sorry but I don't know what RTFM means... ;) Engosh A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim configuration for tmda
I'm having problems configuring tmda to run on Sarge with the default
exim install. I've followed instructions in the tmda manual except:
echo |/path/to/bin/procmail -p ~/.forward
I left this file empty since procmail is specified in exim.conf by
default.
All mail ends up being passed to procmails $DEFAULT,
~/.tmda/logs/debug contains:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/tmda-filter, line 53, in ?
execfile(os.path.join(execdir, 'tmda-rfilter'))
File /usr/bin/tmda-rfilter, line 175, in ?
raise Errors.MissingEnvironmentVariable('SENDER')
MissingEnvironmentVariable
Which appears to suggest exim is not passing procmail the required
environment variables. I have tried various changes including modifying
the procmail_pipe configuration in exim.conf without any success (such
as adding -p option to the command).
/etc/exim/exim.conf:
trusted_users = mail:uucp:jeff
address_pipe:
driver = pipe
path = /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin
return_fail_output
return_path_add
environment = EXTENSION=${substr_1:$local_part_suffix}:\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail_pipe:
driver = pipe
command = /usr/bin/procmail
return_path_add
delivery_date_add
envelope_to_add
suffix =
userforward:
driver = forwardfile
file_transport = address_file
pipe_transport = address_pipe
reply_transport = address_reply
no_verify
check_ancestor
check_local_user
file = .forward
modemask = 002
filter
suffix = +*
suffix_optional
procmail:
driver = localuser
transport = procmail_pipe
require_files =
${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
no_verify
localuser:
driver = localuser
transport = local_delivery
suffix = +*
suffix_optional
thanks
Jeff
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Re: simple exim configuration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 December 2002 5:44 am, Paul Scott wrote: Did you use fetchmailconf to generate /etc/fetchmailrc? I have run it several times and now it doesn't run. It spends about a minute with an hourglass and then the hourglass disappears. This is true whether I am logged in as root or paul. I have looked in several log files without finding any clues. No - I hand crafted it - and tweaked it - over several months. I only showed a very small snippet of it, because at one time (I have cut back a bit) I was polling 4 ISPs with several accounts on each. Right now I am on a cable modem, but when I started it was dialup A .fetchmailrc was generated in my (paul) home directory which looked similar to yours In my case fetchmail is a system wide thing, its collecting mail on behalf of my whole family and runs as a daemon from startup (I can't remember what I had to tweak on the debian setup to do this, I think it was just set the correct values in /etc/default/fetchmail) - -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+BXGBuFHxcV2FFoIRAvB4AJwMdt8tQFIgCzsWqeRdxnfF6G5+OACgghJJ WDqMu7LueZjTimoGDXlMAy4= =rn/x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 03:16, Paul Scott wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: [***SNIP!!!***] Yes, that's what I'm trying at the moment. Unfortunately fetchmailconf has stopped working. The only clues I presently have (with my limited experience) is that when I do 'inetd restart' I find in /var/log/daemon.log: Dec 21 01:10:23 joy inetd[32608]: restart: No such file or directory You want: /etc/init.d/inetd restart to select the daemon manager that shuts down and then restarts the existing inetd daemon - that's how you send the signal to it. If it is only a change to services it is supporting, you might try force-reload instead. [***More SNIP!!!***] Thanks, Paul -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: simple exim configuration
Oops. Here's to the list: Mark L. Kahnt wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 03:16, Paul Scott wrote: experience) is that when I do 'inetd restart' I find in /var/log/daemon.log: Dec 21 01:10:23 joy inetd[32608]: restart: No such file or directory You want: /etc/init.d/inetd restart to select the daemon manager that shuts down and then restarts the existing inetd daemon - that's how you send the signal to it. If it is only a change to services it is supporting, you might try force-reload instead. Thank you very much, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
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On Saturday 21 December 2002 8:16 am, Paul Scott wrote:
Alan Chandler wrote:
...
but for instance, I do
fetchmail -smtp-exim (as MTA)-pipe-spamassassin-exim(as
sendmail)-$HOME/Maildir-courier-pop3-kmail
Can you tell me what configuration causes any of those connections
(except for those which have already been answered in this thread).
Fetchmail
=
Runs as a daemon (debian package loaded and started by /etc/init.d/fetchmail)
- - I have listed some of my /etc/fetchmailrc below (I actually poll several
seperate ISPs and I also have 5 different blueyonder user lines for different
accounts)
poll pop3.blueyonder.co.uk no dns proto POP3 tracepolls
aka blueyonder.co.uk
localdomains chandlerfamily.org.uk
user ac003a3222 password x forcecr is * smtpaddress fetchmail.home
this is the multidrop case (catchall for not specific chandlerfamily.org.uk
addresses). The specific line is like this
user ac003a3222_5 password x forcecr is alan fetchall smtpaddress
fetchmail.home
which is where mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets delivered to.
It passes mail via smtp to whatever is on port 25 of the machine. In my case
its exim, started via inetd. The relevant line in /etc/inetd.conf is ...
#:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
smtpstream tcp nowait mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs
Exim
I think you asked some questions earlier about qualify_domain in exim.conf and
also I seem to remember a bit of the thread about relaying.
here are some relevant paramters (my home network behind the filewall all have
names *.home - mail from these machines is allowed to leave off the
@domainname part and if so, has roo.home added as the sender and
chandlerfamily.org.uk added as the recipient. exim regards localhost, *.home
and chandlerfamily.org.uk in mail addresses as local (ie it does not try to
forward them somewhere else). Note, I will only relay mail on if it comes
either locally or from the 10.0.10.0/24 address range (my internal network in
other words).
primary_hostname = mail.home
qualify_domain = roo.home
receiver_unqualified_hosts = *.home
qualify_recipient = chandlerfamily.org.uk
local_domains = localhost:*.home:chandlerfamily.org.uk
host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1: 10.0.10.0/24
The following are parts of exim.conf that workout how to deliver mail. Please
note I have left a lot out (for instance, I also have mailing lists etc
supported but not shown). The bit related to spam checking is show. Mail
with a real- before the address avoids the spam filter, the rest of local
mail is checked how it arrived. Normally its from outside and is sent to the
check_spam deliverer, otherwise it falls through that check and is delivered
locally (or directly for mail if its not a known local user).
# This allows local delivery to be forced, avoiding spam filter, alias
# files and forwarding.
real_local:
prefix = real-
driver = smartuser
local_parts = /etc/exim/local-users
user = ${lc:$local_part}
transport = local_delivery
# Only Mail that I expect to deliver locally is checked for spam
spam_to_check:
driver = smartuser
transport = check_spam
condition=${if eq {$received_protocol} {spam_checked} {no} {${if eq
{$sender_address_domain} {chandlerfamily.org.uk} {no} {yes} }} }
# This director matches local user mailboxes.
# (I am being very restrictive on what I will allow - but see later)
localuser:
driver = smartuser
local_parts = /etc/exim/local-users
user = ${lc:$local_part}
transport = local_delivery
#
# Anything else that has not been handled is to be forced to alan
#
allelse:
driver = smartuser
transport=deliver_alan
The transports (again only some) in exim.conf define how it is delivered
(either locally into a file or piped through spamassassin).
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
directory=/home/${lc:$local_part}/Maildir
maildir_format = true
prefix =
check_spam:
driver = pipe
user = mail
group = mail
prefix =
suffix =
command = spamc -f | exim -oMr spam_checked ${if eq {$sender_address} {} {}
{-f $sender_address}} \$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.uk
ignore_status = true
use_shell = true
path = /usr/bin:/usr/sbin
Courier
===
Courier just is a standard debian package. It expects to find the mail in
$HOME/Maildir of each user - which it authenticates users who connect via
pop3 or via imap.
Kmail
=
This is just configured to read mail via pop3 to mail.home and to send mail
via smtp to mail.home. Mail received from kmail by exim is then routed
internally (if its in the local_domains listed above), or via blueyonder
(my isp) if its for the rest of the internet. The relevant part of exim.conf
is
# Send all mail to a smarthost
smarthost:
driver = domainlist
transport = remote_smtp
route_list = *
Re: simple exim configuration
Alan Chandler wrote: Can you tell me what configuration causes any of those connections (except for those which have already been answered in this thread). Fetchmail Runs as a daemon (debian package loaded and started by /etc/init.d/fetchmail) - - I have listed some of my /etc/fetchmailrc below (I actually poll several seperate ISPs and I also have 5 different blueyonder user lines for different accounts) Did you use fetchmailconf to generate /etc/fetchmailrc? I have run it several times and now it doesn't run. It spends about a minute with an hourglass and then the hourglass disappears. This is true whether I am logged in as root or paul. I have looked in several log files without finding any clues. A .fetchmailrc was generated in my (paul) home directory which looked similar to yours (snip) I have the same line in /etc/inetd.conf as you do. I wasn't the one posting about relaying. I trust this lot answers your questions - sorry its a bit long. If you need any part explained, copy it back and I will try and answer. I'll get back to any other parts if necessary. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:29:55PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Pigeon wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:02:21AM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote: Paul Scott wrote (on 18 Dec 2002 at 23:57): fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? Because the mutt package expects the system to have some kind of MTA, I'd guess. An MTA is a normal part of a typical system. Options for overriding such dependencies should be covered in the man page somewhere. It may well be simpler just to use it... It looks like I will have to use it get mail from either fetchmail or procmail (if I need it) to the mail folders. I think this is one of those situations where you don't theoretically have to, but it's much easier if you do because all the software and docs are written with that assumption. Run eximconfig and answer some really simple questions, and that's about it. I found it so easy to do the basic setup that I can't remember much about doing it. I have done that several times and I won't know whether it's working until I find where fetchmail is putting mail. According to man fetchmail, it delivers it by SMTP to port 25, whence it is picked up by exim or whatever other MTA you have and delivered to wherever it has to go. I set up fetchmail by using fetchmailconf, and as with eximconfig it just worked and I can't remember any awkwardnesses. That's the problem with these easy config tools - when it all works you don't learn anything. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pigeon wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:29:55PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Pigeon wrote: According to man fetchmail, it delivers it by SMTP to port 25, whence it is picked up by exim or whatever other MTA you have and delivered to wherever it has to go. Ah. This is one of those areas I haven't quite got down: How do I tell who's listening to port 25? Do you have any suggestions as to what to read to understand this. I am an experienced programmer and some mechanisms I understand better than others. I set up fetchmail by using fetchmailconf, and as with eximconfig it just worked and I can't remember any awkwardnesses. That's the problem with these easy config tools - when it all works you don't learn anything. I agree. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David H. Clymer wrote: Ah. This is one of those areas I haven't quite got down: How do I tell who's listening to port 25? Do you have any suggestions as to what to you could try: lsof -i TCP:25 That gives me: inetd 243 root 11u IPv4 477720 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) What program/daemon is listening? Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just realized that I wasnt sending my replies to the list :) silly me. davidc -Forwarded Message- From: David H. Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: simple exim configuration Date: 20 Dec 2002 13:20:56 -0500 That gives me: inetd 243 root 11u IPv4 477720 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) What program/daemon is listening? I believe that this means that inetd is listening. I'm no guru, so those that know better, please correct me, but I believe that inetd monitors the ports specified in its configuration file (/etc/inetd.conf) and, using the same config file, depending on the port, and type of connection, starts whatever program is also specified in that file to handle it. my /etc/inetd.conf file has the following line which tells inetd how to handle smtp connections (the service names on the left are mapped to the correct port using the /etc/services file, i believe). #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. smtpstream tcp nowait mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs davidc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Paul Scott wrote: David H. Clymer wrote: Ah. This is one of those areas I haven't quite got down: How do I tell who's listening to port 25? Do you have any suggestions as to what to you could try: lsof -i TCP:25 That gives me: inetd 243 root 11u IPv4 477720 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) What program/daemon is listening? I believe that this means that inetd is listening. I'm no guru, so those that know better, please correct me, but I believe that inetd monitors the ports specified in its configuration file (/etc/inetd.conf) and, using the same config file, depending on the port, and type of connection, starts whatever program is also specified in that file to handle it. my /etc/inetd.conf file has the following line which tells inetd how to handle smtp connections (the service names on the left are mapped to the correct port using the /etc/services file, i believe). #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. smtpstream tcp nowait mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs Thanks so much! my /etc/inetd.conf has the same line. I'll see how far I can get from there. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
Ok. My /etc/exim/exim.conf has:
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
but mutt tells me that /var/spool/mail/paul is not a mailbox.
BTW the way where is local_part defined?
Thanks for any more help,
Paul
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On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 14:13, Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. My /etc/exim/exim.conf has:
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
but mutt tells me that /var/spool/mail/paul is not a mailbox.
what does: ls /var/mail/paul tell you? is it a file, or a directory?
BTW /var/spool/mail is just a symlink to /var/mail, hence my use of it
above.
BTW the way where is local_part defined?
${local_part} is taken from the recipiant's email address. if someone
sent you an email (to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the exim splits up the address on
the @ and sets two variables:
local_part: paul
domain: foo.com
so if you were doing multiple domains on one box, you could do:
file = /var/spool/mail/${domain}/${local_part}
or some such.
davidc
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David H. Clymer wrote:
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 14:13, Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. My /etc/exim/exim.conf has:
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
but mutt tells me that /var/spool/mail/paul is not a mailbox.
what does: ls /var/mail/paul tell you? is it a file, or a directory?
It's a valid mail file according to /usr/bin/mail
BTW /var/spool/mail is just a symlink to /var/mail, hence my use of it
above.
Understood.
BTW the way where is local_part defined?
${local_part} is taken from the recipiant's email address. if someone
sent you an email (to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the exim splits up the address on
the @ and sets two variables:
local_part: paul
domain: foo.com
What process does that substitution?
so if you were doing multiple domains on one box, you could do:
file = /var/spool/mail/${domain}/${local_part}
or some such.
That part was clear. I was just expecting local_part to be something
that I set somewhere else in exim.conf.
Thanks,
Paul
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${local_part} is taken from the recipiant's email address. if someone
sent you an email (to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the exim splits up the address on
the @ and sets two variables:
local_part: paul
domain: foo.com
What process does that substitution?
I'm not exactly sure, to be honest...
I tried a little experiment below
woody:/usr/src/linux# exim -d8 -bt david
Exim version 3.35 debug level 8 uid=0 gid=0
Berkeley DB: Sleepycat Software: Berkeley DB 2.7.7: (08/20/99)
Caller is an admin user
Caller is a trusted user
user name root extracted from gecos field root
address david@woody
local_part=david domain=woody
domain is local
system_aliases director: lsearch key=david
file=/etc/aliases
system_aliases director declined for david:
userforward director: file = .forward
set uid=0 gid=0 euid=1000 egid=1000
successful stat of /home/david/.
/home/david/.forward not found
restored uid=0 gid=0 euid=8 egid=8
queued for local_delivery transport: local_part=david domain=woody
errors_to=NULL
domain_data=NULL local_part_data=NULL
localuser director succeeded for david
david@woody
deliver to david in domain woody
director = localuser, transport = local_delivery
I guess the debugging above indicates that it is set prior to any of the
delivery facilities configured in exim.conf...I dont know...is this
useful? maybe I'm not sure what info you are trying to find.
so if you were doing multiple domains on one box, you could do:
file = /var/spool/mail/${domain}/${local_part}
or some such.
That part was clear. I was just expecting local_part to be something
that I set somewhere else in exim.conf.
I think those are set at delivery time. if you were able to set them in
the config file, it would seem to me that all your mail would get dumped
in one box.
davidc
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On Friday 20 December 2002 8:03 pm, Paul Scott wrote:
David H. Clymer wrote:
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 14:13, Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. My /etc/exim/exim.conf has:
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
but mutt tells me that /var/spool/mail/paul is not a mailbox.
what does: ls /var/mail/paul tell you? is it a file, or a directory?
It's a valid mail file according to /usr/bin/mail
What are the file access rights. It should have set the user to paul and
the group to mail (user is set in the director that directs it to
local_delivery) but if its not then it might not be readable
${local_part} is taken from the recipiant's email address. if someone
sent you an email (to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the exim splits up the address on
the @ and sets two variables:
local_part: paul
domain: foo.com
What process does that substitution?
Its all inside exim its part of recognising the e-mail address and
manipulating it.
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On Friday 20 December 2002 10:44 pm, you wrote:
..
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 14:13, Paul Scott wrote:
Ok. My /etc/exim/exim.conf has:
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
but mutt tells me that /var/spool/mail/paul is not a mailbox.
what does: ls /var/mail/paul tell you? is it a file, or a directory?
It's a valid mail file according to /usr/bin/mail
What are the file access rights. It should have set the user to paul
and the group to mail (user is set in the director that directs it to
local_delivery) but if its not then it might not be readable
-rw-r-1 paul mail 5856 Dec 20 10:37
/var/spool/mail/paul
I haven't changed what was installed. I now wonder what the
relationship between the 640 here and the 660 in exim.conf. Is group
write necessary?
I don't think exim was the last programme to write to the file - it would have
set the mode to 660.
[or at least if its local_delivery that is delivering the file. It could be
being delivered by another route - for instance procmail?]
I am a little confused by what you are using in your mail chain after all the
advice. The simplest this is
Fetchmail -smtp-exim-/var/spool/mail/paul-mutt
but for instance, I do
fetchmail -smtp-exim (as MTA)-pipe-spamassassin-exim(as
sendmail)-$HOME/Maildir-courier-pop3-kmail
So you can end up with quite a range of things getting in the way.
What process does that substitution?
Its all inside exim its part of recognising the e-mail address and
manipulating it.
That now makes sense.
See my answer to David for other information.
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: simple exim configuration
Oops! I didn't send two of these to the list:
David H. Clymer wrote:
${local_part} is taken from the recipiant's email address. if someone
sent you an email (to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the exim splits up the address on
the @ and sets two variables:
local_part: paul
domain: foo.com
What process does that substitution?
I'm not exactly sure, to be honest...
I tried a little experiment below
woody:/usr/src/linux# exim -d8 -bt david
Exim version 3.35 debug level 8 uid=0 gid=0
Berkeley DB: Sleepycat Software: Berkeley DB 2.7.7: (08/20/99)
Caller is an admin user
Caller is a trusted user
user name root extracted from gecos field root
address david@woody
local_part=david domain=woody
domain is local
system_aliases director: lsearch key=david
file=/etc/aliases
system_aliases director declined for david:
userforward director: file = .forward
set uid=0 gid=0 euid=1000 egid=1000
successful stat of /home/david/.
/home/david/.forward not found
restored uid=0 gid=0 euid=8 egid=8
queued for local_delivery transport: local_part=david domain=woody
errors_to=NULL
domain_data=NULL local_part_data=NULL
localuser director succeeded for david
david@woody
deliver to david in domain woody
director = localuser, transport = local_delivery
I guess the debugging above indicates that it is set prior to any of the
delivery facilities configured in exim.conf...I dont know...is this
useful? maybe I'm not sure what info you are trying to find.
Yes, it's useful in that it leads to questions. My results are almost
identical except that domain for you is your hostname where for me it is
the username part of my e-mail address. The local_part for both of us
seems to be the argument for -bt.
The other difference is that I don't yet have a .forward file.
With my hostname in exim.conf I get results consistent with yours.
(snip)
That part was clear. I was just expecting local_part to be something
that I set somewhere else in exim.conf.
I think those are set at delivery time. if you were able to set them in
the config file, it would seem to me that all your mail would get dumped
in one box.
It's fairly clear that that is correct. local_part was the part after
the -bt in the test.
I will see if that change makes any mail appear anywhere.
Thanks,
Paul
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:57:02PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: John Griffiths wrote: At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: What do I need to do to get exim to get mail from my ISP? Or at least where is the best document or tutorial to read to answer my own questions? exim doesn't fetch mail fetchmail fetches mail. Thanks. So that's why I had such a hard time answering my question. :( I knew that fetchmail fetched mail but I didn't realize that exim didn't. I've really been wanting to try fetchmail anyway. from the sound of it you don't really need exim (or any MTA) at all, but you might want to have it configured to forward mail to your ISP - up to you. That might be after I sort out some other parts but from your comments it looks like I don't need exim. OTOH when I tried 'apt-get remove exim' apt-get wanted to remove mutt also. if you're going to be sending all your mail from mozilla mail it might not be worth worrying about. I have been happy with Mozilla Mail for a long time but I have been wanting to learn how to use mutt and fetchmail, etc. for some time as well. if you want to use mutt then go with option 3 for a satellite system from eximconfig and set your aliases the way you need them It was the wording of option 1 that made me think it would fetch my mail even though it didn't ask me how to get to my ISP. fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? If you were to remove exim, mutt would not be able to meet its dependency requirement for a mail transport agent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Paul Scott wrote (on 18 Dec 2002 at 23:57): fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? Because the mutt package expects the system to have some kind of MTA, I'd guess. An MTA is a normal part of a typical system. Options for overriding such dependencies should be covered in the man page somewhere. T. -- -- Tony Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +49-3341-30 99 99 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:57:02PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: John Griffiths wrote: At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? use dselect. much easier than apt-get :) I have been programming for over 35 years. I have tried dselect many times and never been successful. I am usually successful with apt-get. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Benedict Verheyen wrote: Give aptitude a try. Very nice. I don't like dselect either. It's ugly. Thanks. I do have it installed and agree that it's more friendly than dselect. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:02:21AM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote: Paul Scott wrote (on 18 Dec 2002 at 23:57): fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? Because the mutt package expects the system to have some kind of MTA, I'd guess. An MTA is a normal part of a typical system. Options for overriding such dependencies should be covered in the man page somewhere. It may well be simpler just to use it... Run eximconfig and answer some really simple questions, and that's about it. I found it so easy to do the basic setup that I can't remember much about doing it. The only 'wrinkle' for a basic setup is to add this line to the rewrite section of /etc/exim.conf to make the sender of all mail be the email address your ISP has given you instead of your local name and box name: *@yourmachinename [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frfs example on my system, which is called pigeon: *@pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frfs Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have been looking through exim documentation for quite a while and I am almost as confused as when I started. What do I need to do to get exim to get mail from my ISP? Or at least where is the best document or tutorial to read to answer my own questions? Is procmail a good choice for filtering my mail from three different usernames into many mailboxes. For the moment I have all the mail directories set up by Mozilla. I do have Mutt installed and this time around it actually works. TIA, Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: What do I need to do to get exim to get mail from my ISP? Or at least where is the best document or tutorial to read to answer my own questions? exim doesn't fetch mail fetchmail fetches mail. from the sound of it you don't really need exim (or any MTA) at all, but you might want to have it configured to forward mail to your ISP - up to you. if you're going to be sending all your mail from mozilla mail it might not be worth worrying about. if you want to use mutt then go with option 3 for a satellite system from eximconfig and set your aliases the way you need them fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. ___ Not yet is the spirit of that pristine valour extinct in you, when girt with steel and lofty flames once we fought against the empire of heaven. We were -- that I will not deny -- vanquished in that conflict: yet the great intention was not lacking in nobility. Something or other gave Him victory: to us remained the glory of a dauntless daring. And even if my troop fell thence vanquished, yet to have attempted a lofty enterprise is still a trophy. --From La Strage degli Innocenti (The Slaughter of the Innocents) by Giambattista Marino (1569-1625) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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John Griffiths wrote: At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: What do I need to do to get exim to get mail from my ISP? Or at least where is the best document or tutorial to read to answer my own questions? exim doesn't fetch mail fetchmail fetches mail. Thanks. So that's why I had such a hard time answering my question. :( I knew that fetchmail fetched mail but I didn't realize that exim didn't. I've really been wanting to try fetchmail anyway. from the sound of it you don't really need exim (or any MTA) at all, but you might want to have it configured to forward mail to your ISP - up to you. That might be after I sort out some other parts but from your comments it looks like I don't need exim. OTOH when I tried 'apt-get remove exim' apt-get wanted to remove mutt also. if you're going to be sending all your mail from mozilla mail it might not be worth worrying about. I have been happy with Mozilla Mail for a long time but I have been wanting to learn how to use mutt and fetchmail, etc. for some time as well. if you want to use mutt then go with option 3 for a satellite system from eximconfig and set your aliases the way you need them It was the wording of option 1 that made me think it would fetch my mail even though it didn't ask me how to get to my ISP. fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:57:02PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: John Griffiths wrote: At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? use dselect. much easier than apt-get :) -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration for Laptop
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 03:48:30PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: | I've been wondering how best to configure Exim for use on a Laptop. How | are other Debian users configuring it? My recommendation is to use a smarhost, one way or another. Are you the admin of some mail server on the Internet or do you have shell access to one? Here are the ways I can think of to set this up : 1) Configure SMTP AUTH on your permanent mail server. Configure the laptop to always use that machine (and authenticate) for relaying. Using AUTH allows you to avoid being an open relay and at the same time allows authorized users from any location to relay. 2) On the laptop use a pipe to ssh $host '/usr/sbin/exim -bS' for delivery. Also set up public key authentication (with a null passphrase) between the machines. This will let you use ssh as a tunnel to the permanent machine. That machine will accept mail on stdin and deliver it to its destination (regardless of domain). The remote mail server will not know the difference between this config and a local process (eg mutt) doing the same thing. 3) Use ssh to tunnel a TCP connection to the permanent machine and use localhost as the smarthost. This requires that the permanent machine relays for 127.0.0.1. To set up the ssh tunnel, use this command : ssh -C -L 2525:localhost:25 $host With that tunnel, use route_list = * 127.0.0.1:2525 byname as the smarthost in exim.conf. HTH, -D -- Emacs is a nice operating system, it lacks a decent editor though http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg13030/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Exim configuration for Laptop
I've been wondering how best to configure Exim for use on a Laptop. How are other Debian users configuring it? I'm likely missing something obvious as I don't normally use Exim. Here's my take on it so far. The eximconfig script presents 5 options of these only the first 3 are really possible configurations if you wish to send mail off system. Thus, options 4 and 5 are ruled out. Since the laptop won't always be in the same place or even on the same network chances are quite good that any smarthost it is configured to use will at some point refuse to relay messages for it. Thus, it would seem that options 2 and 3 are ruled out. This seems to leave option 1. However, using this option seems to setup a full fledged server for a domain. I would think that most people would not want this for an installation on their laptop. It seems more likely (to me at least) that something more like the following would be desired: - Messages addressed to anything other than user@localhost or user@hostname (or the IP equivalent) are delivered by exim according to DNS records if such connectivity is available. If not delivery is postponed until such connectivity is available. - The MUA is allowed to specify the address (user@domain) that the message appears to come from. I've come close to this with combinations for option 3 and option 1, but only close. My current configuration is to use option 1 and list my domain (asgardsrealm.net) as the system's visible domain. This then by default results in messages to other users on my domain attempting to be delivered locally, which obviously doesn't work. To get around this, I've edited the exim.conf to remove my domain from the list of local_domains. Is this the best way to configure things? -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration for Laptop
Jamin == Jamin W Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jamin,
I actually do not use exim much on my laptop, but these hints might
help since I looked into this when I first got it some 2 years
ago. However, as things turned out, I rarely, if ever, send mail from
it so I can't say I have any real experience.
Jamin Since the laptop won't always be in the same place or even
Jamin on the same network chances are quite good that any
Jamin smarthost it is configured to use will at some point
Jamin refuse to relay messages for it. Thus, it would seem that
Jamin options 2 and 3 are ruled out.
Actually, IMHO, option 2 (smarthost) is a very good one.
Basically, you don't have external systems deliver mail to your
laptop. You probably run fetchmail, and by some magic it always gets
your mail and uses exim for local delivery. Or maybe you don't run
fetchmail and do something else. The bottom line is: no one looks up
an MX or A record for your laptop and then contacts it to deliver
email. So that fact that option 2 does not allow incoming mail is
okay.
For outgoing mail the problem really is: how do you figure out what
the SMTP server to use is for the smarthost?
I suggest you start with the smarthost file and keep hacking at it
until it works (exim -C path/to/exim.conf.file -bt user@host is a
very good way to test what exim would do).
One trick that worked for me: define two smart hosts. The first one
works 99% of the time (on the big-I Internet in my case), the second
1% of the (company intranet firewalled from the bad guys outside). My
first smarthost setting adds a host_find_failed = pass line so if
the lookup fails (which it would in the intranet) exim goes on to the
next router. Works for me. I rarely send mail from the intranet. On
the public intranet I have not run into a case where my public ISP
SMTP server was barred as yet (yeah, I don't get around with my laptop
as much as I should ;-)
BTW your host_find_failed value could be set to 'freeze' on the second
(last) router. All failed mail would be frozen. Then when you got a
good place you could unfreeze and retry everyting. Not pretty, but a
start.
Jamin Is this the best way to configure things?
Don't know. Sorry. But I got another idea for you to consider.
You could run a script when your ethernet or other IP interface is
bought up that writes the best choice for SMTP server using some magic
to a file. Ask exim to read that file and deliver accordingly.
For example, change your smarthost router's route_list from *
my.smarthost.com bydns_a to *
${lookup{smarthost}lsearch{/var/misc/smarthost}{$value}{smtp.smarthost.com}}
bydns_a.
Now generate a file called /var/misc/smarthost evertime you ifup your
eth0 (or what have you) that used the IP address of your laptop to see
if could guess a better smarthost. Write that to /var/misc/smarthost
like this
smarthost: guessed.smarthost.com
and exim will use that. If you can't guess it, leave the file empty,
and exim will use smtp.smarthost.com as a default.
You get the idea. The exim specification is hard to read, but the
effort is well worth the trouble!
Of course, I'm suspect that one of the many packages that support
roaming laptops will provide this built in. Hopefully some one else
will clue you into a better way of doing this. But I've found learning
exim to be some kind of fun.
Good luck! Let us know what finally works for your. Maybe I will start
using my laptop to send mail for real!
Cheers!
Shyamal
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Re: Exim configuration
Hi, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, R Ransbottom wrote: I receive mail with fetchmail which works fine. My system receives mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local mail works fine. I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain. When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local mail to an unknown user. How should I make this work? Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few hosts.on.localnet. Sounds like your ISP is blocking port 25 for other hosts than your ISP (and localnet, of course). This means that you cannot send mail directly to other hosts. You have to configure a relay mail host. This is to prevent spam (many people misconfigured their mailserver, so it became an open relay: good for spamming). ## # ROUTERS CONFIGURATION # #Specifies how remote addresses are handled # ## # ORDER DOES MATTER # # A remote address is passed to each in turn until it is accepted. # ## # Remote addresses are those with a domain that does not match any item # in the local_domains setting above. route_append: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = * smtp.myisp.nl byname ^ # Stand-alone system, so no routers configured. end Works fine. Greetz, Sebastiaan -- NT is the OS of the future. The main engine is the 16-bit Subsystem (also called MS-DOS Subsystem). Above that, there is the windoze 95/98 16-bit Subsystem. Anyone can see that 16+16=32, so windoze NT is a *real* 32-bit system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
Rob == R Ransbottom R writes: Rob On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:11:24PM -0500, Shyamal Prasad Rob wrote: R How should I make this work? My guess is you have attbi.com listed in local_domains in exim.conf. Rob Yes, it is. That is certainly a problem, since I am guessing that attbi.com is not your localdomain, in the sense that your exim server is not responsible for mail delivery to attbi.com. I am assuming, of course, that you don't work for and maintain mail delivery services for attbi.com ;-) Your local_domains should list exactly those domains that can be handled locally be exim. When an address matches a local domain, it is processed by the directors later in your file. When an address is not in your local domain, it will be passed to the routers that are listed in your file (the routers will include your smarthost setting). Typically you set local_domains to your hostname and localhost. You should not (AFAIK) use your ISP's domain if you are a normal dial-up/xDSL customer. If you are wondering how to get your outgoing email have the correct email address (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) look at /etc/email-addresses to do that. What does 'exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]' say? Rob It says: Rob user nonesuch for file existence test not found Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable: unknown local-part Rob nonesuch in domain attbi.com I'm surprised that randomuser became nonesuch, but I don't know everything about exim or your set up either Rob I'd like to use the ISP's smtp server as my smarthost except Rob for a few specific hosts or a private/bogus domain referring Rob to my localnet. The simplest way is to add domainlist before the smart host entry in the routers section: bogus: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = bogus.net smtp.bogus.net byname; \ other.home smtp.other.home byname If you have just one bogus entry, leave out that trailing semi colon. Good luck! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Sandip == Sandip P Deshmukh Sandip writes: Sandip all right. it again gave back some nice data. can i use Sandip smtp.yahoo.com bydns_a in router configuration? i ask this Sandip because there are occassions when my local smtp server is Sandip dead. as a result, i can connect to the net but mail wont Sandip go out! I guess you could. I do not know what yahoo's policy is about accepting mail from unknown networks. My guess is they will not accept your mail for delivery. Sandip typically, i will like to use the nt server as default Sandip smarthost, failing which, i will like to use, say, Sandip smtp.yahoo.com. can this be done? Yes, by putting them in the route_list. Yes, and no. In theory you should be able to do this. In practice, if you look up an MX record for the domain you are sending mail to, Sandip how do i do this? and try to connect to that mail server, Sandip and how do i do this as well? Run eximconfig, choose option 1, then edit the exim.conf file to get it all okay for your specific part of the world. That is the theory, I've never actually done this. Sandip but doesnt report an error. dig -t A returned some nice Sandip looking data. so dns lookup seems not to be a problem. by Sandip the way, do not all machines who have a dns server entry Sandip have dns lookup ability? Only if the /etc/resolve.conf file is correct ;-) Sandip i did not get this part. by dns server entry, i meant the Sandip hostnames are being resolved properly. Ah! But hostnames are resolved via the /etc/resolve.conf entries for many networked computers. If you don't know how exactly the resolution is done, read the DNS HOWTO. Seriously, try using your NT server as a smarthost. Send a mail. If it fails, look in /var/logs/exim and see what exim said about the delivery attempt. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: David A. Rogers wrote: Yes your machine could send mail directly. how! that was my question. even after reading the nag chapters, i am unable to handle this! I always use a smart host, so I'm not the best one to tell you. Here's what I would do in your shoes, though: 1) (The hard way) Read all the exim documentation you can find. Modify the exim files by hand. OR 2) (The easy way) dpkg-reconfigure exim. Of the five? options choose the one that best fits your situation. I.e. _don't_ tell it to use a smart host. dar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David A. Rogers wrote: Yes your machine could send mail directly. how! that was my question. even after reading the nag chapters, i am unable to handle this! ok, so here comes a setup (this needs to go in the routers section) that uses a smarthost for some domains that won't accept mail from dialup users and uses direct delivery otherwise: |smarthost: | driver = domainlist | transport = remote_smtp | route_list = *.sourceforge.net smtp.my_isp.com bydns_a; \ |some.other.domain.org smtp.my_isp.com bydns_a | host_find_failed = fail_soft | |direct_smtp: | driver = domainlist | transport = remote_smtp | route_list = * $domain bydns note that the order is important, i.e. the router labelled smarthost will be tried first, if the recipient domain was not matched or the smarthost was not found (that's what the fail_soft is for) it will try the next router. You need to understand that directors are used for local addresses whereas routers are used for remote mail, trying each router until one matches the conditions (route_list). HTH, HAND, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I receive mail with fetchmail which works fine. My system receives mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local mail works fine. I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain. When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local mail to an unknown user. How should I make this work? Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few hosts.on.localnet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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R == R Ransbottom R writes: R I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain. R When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local R mail to an unknown user. R How should I make this work? My guess is you have attbi.com listed in local_domains in exim.conf. What does 'exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]' say? R Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few R hosts.on.localnet. Sorrywould you explain that some more? Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:11:24PM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote: R I send mail with exim which works except in my ISP's domain. R When I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is seen as local R mail to an unknown user. R How should I make this work? My guess is you have attbi.com listed in local_domains in exim.conf. Yes, it is. What does 'exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]' say? It says: user nonesuch for file existence test not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable: unknown local-part nonesuch in domain attbi.com R Preferably I'd like to be able to directly send mail to a few R hosts.on.localnet. Sorrywould you explain that some more? I'd like to use the ISP's smtp server as my smarthost except for a few specific hosts or a private/bogus domain referring to my localnet. Thank you. -- rob Live the dream. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:19:31AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: it just says message frozen!! Unfreeze it. Check the exim docs on how to do this. -- Baloo msg08590/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
David A. Rogers wrote: For future reference read the Linux Network Administrator's Guide http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html oh sure. i did. thanx for referring this. very informative! Yes your machine could send mail directly. how! that was my question. even after reading the nag chapters, i am unable to handle this! thanx for help -sandip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Stephen Gran wrote: One thing to consider is that when your SMTP demon makes a connection to your recipients mail hub, there is an exchange between the two computers, beginning with your computer saying HELO (or EHLO) and then identifying itself. Many mailservers reject mail if the announced name does not match the name received by DNS lookup. What this means is that if you don't have a static IP address (which you won't on a dialup line) there will be some hosts that you cannot send mail to. Using a smarthost, which has a static IP and passes the reverse DNS check, will allow you to send mail to these hosts. HTH, Steve well, i have a static ip address and i am always on - unless when i switch off my computer! so, does it help? -sandip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:08:20PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: the way i look at it is, i am connected to the net. i have dns servers resolving hostnames for me. do i still need something else *on some other machine* to send mails? Only if your ISP won't let you send directly, or you start getting a bunch of bounce backs saying you're on some random DUL RBL. DULs sometimes (incorrectly) list broadband user IP blocks, in which using your ISP's mailserver will get you out. Unless your ISP sucks, in which it's easier to deal with the DUL bounces. Your call. it just says message frozen!! -sandip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Shyamal Prasad wrote: A 'smarthost' is the term used in an exim configuration where a single SMTP server (the 'smarthost') will accept SMTP connnections from your network or host, and will relay these email onwards with headers that identify you in a manner acceptable to both you and the owner of your smarthost (typically your ISP). well, although i am not yet able to send/ receive mails the unix way, i think my understanding of mail handling has improved a lot. thanx group and linux for that. With a dial up or other ISP account you will typically be given the 'smarthost' address, though the term 'smarthost' will not be used. This is what you put in Netscape, Mozilla, Outlook or whatever MUA you would use on a PC. An example of a smarthost is 'smtp.yahoo.com' (Try 'dig smtp.yahoo.com' to see what I mean :-) all right. it again gave back some nice data. can i use smtp.yahoo.com bydns_a in router configuration? i ask this because there are occassions when my local smtp server is dead. as a result, i can connect to the net but mail wont go out! typically, i will like to use the nt server as default smarthost, failing which, i will like to use, say, smtp.yahoo.com. can this be done? Sandip so far as smarthost is concerned, i do not know yet! but Sandip frankly, i think a machine with the net access and dns Sandip access should be in a position to send e-mails independent Sandip of other machines (read - Sandip smarthost). of course, correct me if i am wrong Yes, and no. In theory you should be able to do this. In practice, if you look up an MX record for the domain you are sending mail to, how do i do this? and try to connect to that mail server, and how do i do this as well? the server may not accept mail for you. You can thank spammers etc. for the closing of the old internet when you could do this stuff. but i am generally getting the thought process and the way this all functions now! If you want to do this use eximconfig and choose option 1, not the smarthost option. You will probably need to do a lot of configuration until you get all mails going, and even then you would need a smarthost like server for a 'default' route. You should read the Mail HOWTO documents. ohh! not immediately. if i could mess up a simpler option like a smarthost, imagine what i can do with a more difficult option! but sure - may be at a later date when my basic configuration is running. Sandip but doesnt report an error. dig -t A returned some nice Sandip looking data. so dns lookup seems not to be a problem. by Sandip the way, do not all machines who have a dns server entry Sandip have dns lookup ability? Only if the /etc/resolve.conf file is correct ;-) i did not get this part. by dns server entry, i meant the hostnames are being resolved properly. Sandip so, some solution on this? Your best bet would be to use the NT server you have described in the past as the smarthost. Put the IP address for the NT server on your LAN in the smarthost entry in exim.conf and use the 'byname' option. i am trying this. either you will get a post from me using exim or you will get a post saying it doesnt work! ;) Cheers! Shyamal thanx for the help and patience - sandip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said: well, here is what i discovered wrt questions shyamal had asked. i am yet to understand the term smtp smart host. the way i look at it is, i am connected to the net. i have dns servers resolving hostnames for me. do i still need something else *on some other machine* to send mails? anyway, here are answers: so far as smarthost is concerned, i do not know yet! but frankly, i think a machine with the net access and dns access should be in a position to send e-mails independent of other machines (read - smarthost). of course, correct me if i am wrong yes. i can do dns lookup from my machine. dig throws back some numbers - but doesnt report an error. dig -t A returned some nice looking data. so dns lookup seems not to be a problem. by the way, do not all machines who have a dns server entry have dns lookup ability? so, some solution on this? thanx again -sandip One thing to consider is that when your SMTP demon makes a connection to your recipients mail hub, there is an exchange between the two computers, beginning with your computer saying HELO (or EHLO) and then identifying itself. Many mailservers reject mail if the announced name does not match the name received by DNS lookup. What this means is that if you don't have a static IP address (which you won't on a dialup line) there will be some hosts that you cannot send mail to. Using a smarthost, which has a static IP and passes the reverse DNS check, will allow you to send mail to these hosts. HTH, Steve -- It's not just a computer -- it's your ass. -- Cal Keegan msg08209/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
Sandip == Sandip P Deshmukh Sandip writes: Sandip well, here is what i discovered wrt questions shyamal had Sandip asked. i am yet to understand the term smtp smart host. Hi Sandip, A 'smarthost' is the term used in an exim configuration where a single SMTP server (the 'smarthost') will accept SMTP connnections from your network or host, and will relay these email onwards with headers that identify you in a manner acceptable to both you and the owner of your smarthost (typically your ISP). With a dial up or other ISP account you will typically be given the 'smarthost' address, though the term 'smarthost' will not be used. This is what you put in Netscape, Mozilla, Outlook or whatever MUA you would use on a PC. An example of a smarthost is 'smtp.yahoo.com' (Try 'dig smtp.yahoo.com' to see what I mean :-) Sandip the way i look at it is, i am connected to the net. i have Sandip dns servers resolving hostnames for me. do i still need Sandip something else *on some other machine* to send mails? Strictly speaking not. In reality, you will probably need a smarthost. See below. Sandip anyway, here are answers: Sandip so far as smarthost is concerned, i do not know yet! but Sandip frankly, i think a machine with the net access and dns Sandip access should be in a position to send e-mails independent Sandip of other machines (read - Sandip smarthost). of course, correct me if i am wrong Yes, and no. In theory you should be able to do this. In practice, if you look up an MX record for the domain you are sending mail to, and try to connect to that mail server, the server may not accept mail for you. You can thank spammers etc. for the closing of the old internet when you could do this stuff. If you want to do this use eximconfig and choose option 1, not the smarthost option. You will probably need to do a lot of configuration until you get all mails going, and even then you would need a smarthost like server for a 'default' route. You should read the Mail HOWTO documents. Sandip yes. i can do dns lookup from my machine. dig throws back Sandip some numbers - Good. Sandip but doesnt report an error. dig -t A returned some nice Sandip looking data. so dns lookup seems not to be a problem. by Sandip the way, do not all machines who have a dns server entry Sandip have dns lookup ability? Only if the /etc/resolve.conf file is correct ;-) Sandip so, some solution on this? Your best bet would be to use the NT server you have described in the past as the smarthost. Put the IP address for the NT server on your LAN in the smarthost entry in exim.conf and use the 'byname' option. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Shyamal == Shyamal Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandip == Sandip P Deshmukh Sandip writes: Sandip so far as smarthost is concerned, i do not know yet! but Sandip frankly, i think a machine with the net access and dns Sandip access should be in a position to send e-mails independent Sandip of other machines (read - Sandip smarthost). of course, correct me if i am wrong Shyamal Yes, and no. In theory you should be able to do this. In Shyamal practice, if you look up an MX record for the domain you Shyamal are sending mail to, and try to connect to that mail Shyamal server, the server may not accept mail for you. You can Shyamal thank spammers etc. for the closing of the old internet Shyamal when you could do this stuff. For the sake of full disclosure: the above is an uninformed opinion. I have never set up a debian box on the big-I Internet with full mail delivery based on MX records. It might work for you. It does for some people. I've been told that many ISP's make this hard to do. Don't believe everything I say ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration and relaying
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 12:28:47AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: I have a small network which I am trying to setup a mail server for. I would like to get my box to relay the mail for the rest on the network, but it just wont. For one, it wont relay the mail when I use eximconfig and tell it to let the explicit IP address for my machine relay the mail. I also have sever other machines which I need to get this box to relay for as well, but I dont know how to make it relay for a range of IP addresses. Any ideas on how to do this? Thanks. Sounds like you're trying to do something very similar to what I am doing right now. host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1 : 192.168.0.0/16 This is the magic line you need to change in /etc/exim/exim.conf, replace the 192.168.0.0/16 network with the one appropriate for yours. -- Baloo msg02964/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration and relaying
On Sunday 22 September 2002 6:15 am, John Griffiths wrote: then if you still have no joy get your hands dirty in the /etc/exim/exim.config file There are probably two relevent lines in your exim.conf file local_domains = localhost:*.home:chandlerfamily.org.uk:libdebate.org is the first showing mine - it says what mail addresses are considered local (the *.home entry is because all my home machines are behind a firewall and not seen on the internet and use this non standard Top Level Domain - the other domains apart from localhost are ones I own the domain name for and have accounts locally to receive for them) the second line I use is host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1: 10.0.10.0/24 which controls which machines get to do an smtp connection to exim to send mail. These are local host and the whole of the 10.0.10.x subnet (which is the addresses assigned to all the local machines on my home network) The comments in the file for the other parameters near to these give some other options - but I expect you won't need them. -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration and relaying
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 September 2002 01:15 am, John Griffiths wrote: snip then if you still have no joy get your hands dirty in the /etc/exim/exim.config file you might have to reboot to get those changes to take effect. snip N! A reboot is _NOT_ needed for changes in the exim.config file to be realized. /etc/init.d/exim restart is your friend, and that only matters if it's running in daemon mode. If it's fired by inetd, then the config file is parsed whenever inetd fires up exim. I'm convinced the magic reboot habit is the single worst thing that Microsoft has done for computer users accross the globe. Sean - -- GPG Public Key available: http://sean.gutenpress.org/sean.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9jc7JEEGQgHny9sQRAvxPAKCHbKd1l1ASVbyQmJz+yIBg7K1v9QCgpjJp +i5LlNlTkOAtXt6XlAmpgc8= =EKpg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim configuration - filtering and aliases
On 15 Jul 2002 at 17:32, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
[ a few hints to get started on ]
Hello everyone,
Well, since I have now managed to find a solution, I though - in the
spirit of sharing - I would post my solution to this particular
configuration question.
Summary:
I have 3 (trusted) local users. Each local user has different virtual
domains, each of which he wants to be able control seperately. The
setup is based on exim and courierIMAP.
Disclaimer
This setup worked for me. The following is merely a suggestion posted
in the hope that it could perhaps be useful to anyone trying to make
a setup similar to mine. Oh, I almost forgot: I am by no means an
exim wizard, so go read at least the introduction of the exim
specification to get an idea of how it all works together.
/Disclaimer
This is what I did:
## Begin changes to exim.conf:
# main section
local_domains = dbm;/etc/mail/domains.db
# Transports configuration
# Make it work with courierIMAP and maildirs
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
directory = /home/${local_part}/Maildir/
maildir_format
create_directory
# Director configuration:
# Custom virtual domains director
# - allow a single alias file for each virtual domain
# - chapter 43.2 in exim spec
virtual:
driver = aliasfile
skip_syntax_errors = true
domains = dbm;/etc/mail/domains.db
file = /etc/mail/alias.$domain
search_type = lsearch*@
no_more
## End changes to exim.conf
## Begin /etc/mail/domains
domain1
domain2
# you get the picture ...
## End /etc/mail/domains
## Begin /etc/mail/alias.domain1 (owned by user3)
# give user1 a few aliases
user1: user1
alias: user1
alias: user1
alias: user1
# give user2 af few aliases
user2: user2
alias: user2
# star alias - send the rest to user3
*: user3
## End /etc/mail.alias.domain1
And that was basically it. I'm impressed with how well the
exim/courierimap setup runs on my lowly K6-200 w/ 80 MB RAM, an old
IDE disk and plenty of other servers running. Anyway, this setup
makes for a nice little workgroup mail server ...
With regards to the choice of MUA, KMail seems to be quite a nice
match with my setup. On a similar note, I have yet to find a
Microsoft Windows MUA that works really well with IMAP. I currently
use Pegasus mail ver. 4.02 but it does not seem to cache headers as
well as KMail apparently does (if it caches them at all ?).
Kind regards,
Rune
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Re: exim configuration
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:03:16AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | | $ host -t mx tacocat.net | | | | This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. | | RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address | | has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the | | mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is | | over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce | | message. | hmmm... Good point. | I wonder then, how I'm supposed to create an MX / A record in dyndns.org. | They provide a form for it, and if I do | dig @ns1.mydyndns.org -MX tacocat.net | it comes up OK as janus.tacocat.net | but you say it doesn't. I wonder what the problem is. Timing maybe? Now I see the MX : $ host -t mx tacocat.net tacocat.net mail is handled by 10 janus.tacocat.net. Are you still getting that error now? HTH, -D -- He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm. Proverbs 13:20 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpJzv4W43ECu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
dman wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:03:16AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | | $ host -t mx tacocat.net | | | | This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. | | RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address | | has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the | | mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is | | over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce | | message. | hmmm... Good point. | I wonder then, how I'm supposed to create an MX / A record in dyndns.org. | They provide a form for it, and if I do | dig @ns1.mydyndns.org -MX tacocat.net | it comes up OK as janus.tacocat.net | but you say it doesn't. I wonder what the problem is. Timing maybe? Now I see the MX : $ host -t mx tacocat.net tacocat.net mail is handled by 10 janus.tacocat.net. Are you still getting that error now? HTH, -D I finally got it fixed, it was a DNS fault of mine. What I'm trying to figure out is getting this server to act as a relay for sending my ISP email and as a destination for tacocat.net. I can use fetchmail to grab my ISP email. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a very clear nomenclature of how I would configure this under exim. I've tried reading the exim documentation for the configuration, but it's written assuming you are already familiar with everything to do with exim and exim.conf and just need a reference. Very difficult to find a simple answer. Originally I was trying qmail, but I never got it running. Don't remember why, might have just forgotten where I was in the process. And I figured I would look at exim since it's already in there. But the configuration process, beyond the script, seems to be a little hard to understand. Maybe all I need is a fresh pot of coffee and a little more RTM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 06:42:08AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | dman wrote: | On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:03:16AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | | | $ host -t mx tacocat.net | | | | | | This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. | | | RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address | | | has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the | | | mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is | | | over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce | | | message. | | | hmmm... Good point. | | I wonder then, how I'm supposed to create an MX / A record in dyndns.org. | | They provide a form for it, and if I do | | dig @ns1.mydyndns.org -MX tacocat.net | | it comes up OK as janus.tacocat.net | | but you say it doesn't. I wonder what the problem is. | | Timing maybe? Now I see the MX : | | $ host -t mx tacocat.net | tacocat.net mail is handled by 10 janus.tacocat.net. | | Are you still getting that error now? | | I finally got it fixed, it was a DNS fault of mine. | What I'm trying to figure out is getting this server to act as a relay | for sending my ISP email and as a destination for tacocat.net. Let's see if I understand the situation : 1) this machine is the incoming server for the 'tacocat.net' domain. it is a real server on the internet (as opposed to an end-user terminal on a dial-up or something like that) 2) you also have an account with an ISP 3) you want mail sent to your account at the ISP to arrive on your server and get delivered locally 4) you want to use your ISP's server for outgoing mail? I think you have #1 set up properly. For #3 you have 2 choices : use a client program (fetchmail) to get the mail from the ISP and redirect it to your local account OR setup your ISP account to forward mail to your tacocat.net account. For #4 (at the same time as #1) you need to edit the config file yourself. It's really easy, once you understand 1) how SMTP works and 2) how exim is designed. Is #4 correct? If so I'll give you the config for that since it's quite simple. | I've tried reading the exim documentation for the configuration, but | it's written assuming you are already familiar with everything to do | with exim and exim.conf and just need a reference. Very difficult | to find a simple answer. It's written with the assumption that you know how SMTP works. It doesn't include a copy of RFC 2821 in its own docs :-). The other key to reading the exim spec is to have a sample config file to follow at the same time. The upstream exim release has such a file, and the debian 'eximconfig' program can generate them too. HTH, -D -- Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Matthew 11:28-30 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpW7DqDYRADW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
hmmm... Good point. I wonder then, how I'm supposed to create an MX / A record in dyndns.org. They provide a form for it, and if I do dig @ns1.mydyndns.org -MX tacocat.net it comes up OK as janus.tacocat.net but you say it doesn't. I wonder what the problem is. $ host -t mx tacocat.net This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:03:16AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: hmmm... Good point. I wonder then, how I'm supposed to create an MX / A record in dyndns.org. They provide a form for it, and if I do dig @ns1.mydyndns.org -MX tacocat.net it comes up OK as janus.tacocat.net but you say it doesn't. I wonder what the problem is. $ host -t mx tacocat.net This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce message. Here is my dig response, if it is worth anything... ; DiG 9.2.0 tacocat.net MX ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47701 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tacocat.net. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: tacocat.net.86400 IN MX 10 janus.tacocat.net. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: tacocat.net.86400 IN NS ns4.mydyndns.org. tacocat.net.86400 IN NS ns5.mydyndns.org. tacocat.net.86400 IN NS ns1.mydyndns.org. tacocat.net.86400 IN NS ns2.mydyndns.org. tacocat.net.86400 IN NS ns3.mydyndns.org. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: janus.tacocat.net. 60 IN A 24.208.241.254 ns4.mydyndns.org. 172795 IN A 212.100.224.176 ns5.mydyndns.org. 172795 IN A 66.37.215.46 ns1.mydyndns.org. 172795 IN A 66.37.215.45 ns2.mydyndns.org. 172795 IN A 216.7.11.132 ns3.mydyndns.org. 172795 IN A 64.71.191.27 ;; Query time: 43 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.4#53(192.168.0.4) ;; WHEN: Tue May 21 08: MX looks fine to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 11:59:49PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: [...] | All three of you helped explain it to me. | I got this far (from the base server [option 1]): | | 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] | U=tallison P=local S=351 | 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] | R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer | after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1384: host | ohmx02.mgw.rr.com [65.24.0.110]: 553 5.1.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist This means that the other server rejected your attempt to send through it. Your exim has nothing wrong, but notice the cause of the error : $ host -t any tacocat.net tacocat.net name server NS3.MYDYNDNS.ORG. tacocat.net name server NS4.MYDYNDNS.ORG. tacocat.net name server NS5.MYDYNDNS.ORG. tacocat.net name server NS1.MYDYNDNS.ORG. tacocat.net name server NS2.MYDYNDNS.ORG. Ok, so your domain has some name servers that are authoritative for it, but no A record. That itself is not a problem since a *domain* doesn't _need_ an A record. You can have A records for individual hosts in your domain instead (eg www.tacocat.net, mail.tacocat.net, etc). $ host -t mx tacocat.net This is a problem. You have no A *and* no MX records for your domain. RoadRunner's smtp servers are rejecting any mails whose return address has a domain that can't be contacted. If their server did accept the mail, and then had to bounce it for some reason (eg the recipient is over their quota), they would be stuck with an undeliverable bounce message. The solution is to either not try and use that domain as your email address, or to correct the DNS records for it. HTH, -D -- A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends. Proverbs 16:28 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgp7QlWtOuiij.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:33:57PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: The problem I have is that I'm not really clear on what of the 5 choices I should pick up for the Server versus the various clients I have, which are running exim as localhost mail. Can someone give me a rough sketch of where I might start? You'll want to base the server on option 1 (Internet site) or 2 (Internet site using smarthost), depending on whether you feel a need to route all outgoing mail through your ISP's server. A few sites will refuse to accept mail from 'unknown' machines and may assume you're a spammer if you don't use your ISP to launder the mail. Personally, though, I don't use a smarthost as these sites are few and far between these days, provided that you have a static IP address. For the clients, use option 3 (Satellite system), using your mail server as the smarthost. All three of you helped explain it to me. I got this far (from the base server [option 1]): 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=tallison P=local S=351 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1384: host ohmx02.mgw.rr.com [65.24.0.110]: 553 5.1.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QE-00 = R=178vLV-0001QC-00 U=mail P=local S=1329 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QC-00 Completed 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QE-00 = tallison [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_delivery 2002-05-17 23:57:29 178vLV-0001QE-00 Completed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think I'm getting stuck on this configuration. Below is the last (summary) screen of the eximconfig process. What I'm trying to do is use this to send email from my own domain (tacocat.net) that is sent to this machine from others on the network AND to relay email I'm sending out with my ISP's address. I was going to use fetchmail to grab email from my ISP and put it down on this computer. Should be changed to: remove twmi.rr.com from the referring domains add twmi.rr.com as a relayed domain The following configuration has been entered: == Mail generated on this system will have `tacocat.net' used as the domain part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places. The following domain(s) will be recognised as referring to this system: localhost, tacocat.net, twmi.rr.com Messages for all domains that we MX for will be relayed Mail for postmaster, root, etc. will be sent to root. Local mail is delivered. Outbound remote mail is looked up in the Internet DNS, and delivered using that data if any is found; otherwise such messages are bounced. Is this OK ? Hit Return or type `y' to confirm it and install, or `n' to make changes (in which case we'll go round again, giving you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:33:57PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: The problem I have is that I'm not really clear on what of the 5 choices I should pick up for the Server versus the various clients I have, which are running exim as localhost mail. Can someone give me a rough sketch of where I might start? You'll want to base the server on option 1 (Internet site) or 2 (Internet site using smarthost), depending on whether you feel a need to route all outgoing mail through your ISP's server. A few sites will refuse to accept mail from 'unknown' machines and may assume you're a spammer if you don't use your ISP to launder the mail. Personally, though, I don't use a smarthost as these sites are few and far between these days, provided that you have a static IP address. For the clients, use option 3 (Satellite system), using your mail server as the smarthost. -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists have already won. - reverius Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Tom Swiss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 06:51:20AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: | I think I'm getting stuck on this configuration. | Below is the last (summary) screen of the eximconfig process. | What I'm trying to do is use this to send email from my own domain | (tacocat.net) that is sent to this machine from others on the network | AND to relay email I'm sending out with my ISP's address. | I was going to use fetchmail to grab email from my ISP and put it down | on this computer. | Should be changed to: | remove twmi.rr.com from the referring domains What that message really means is local domains. (referring to this system) | add twmi.rr.com as a relayed domain | If I understand correctly, twmi.rr.com is your ISP and is NOT your own machine. As such it should not be mentioned as a local domain. Just leave it out completely and it will be treated as any other non-local domain. The local domains are the domains that you own and which are hosted by your machine. If you send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you want it to be handed off to one of the MX handlers for twmi.rr.com. You don't want to try and deliver it locally. You also do not want to mention it as a domain you are relaying for because there are no MX records for that domain which list your host as a server. | The following configuration has been entered: | | == | Mail generated on this system will have `tacocat.net' used | as the domain part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places. | | The following domain(s) will be recognised as referring to this system: | localhost, tacocat.net, twmi.rr.com | Local mail is delivered. HTH, -D -- If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpuqvOEUeI9I.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim configuration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 May 2002, Dave Sherohman wrote: You'll want to base the server on option 1 (Internet site) or 2 (Internet site using smarthost), depending on whether you feel a need to route all outgoing mail through your ISP's server. A few sites will refuse to accept mail from 'unknown' machines and may assume you're a spammer if you don't use your ISP to launder the mail. Checking against ISP customer IP pools is pretty rare. My ISP's mailserver is blocked by three RBLs I check against at last check, I'd rather not route outbound through servers with known stupid admins. Personally, though, I don't use a smarthost as these sites are few and far between these days, provided that you have a static IP address. Yup. Mostly because assuming a particular ISP is a spammer based entirely on the fact it's on the other side of a dialup, cable modem, or DSL bridge fromt he rest of the net is draconian and considered stupid by most admins. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE85bvqNtWkM9Ny9xURAvZaAJ9LrreeKKsX47lPK+0JgxlMyM2lPgCfbpF6 vhlmQbehHr37ieRayK/9AgY= =jzy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not sure of the terms of what I'm trying to configure here, but this is what I was hoping to do... I have several machines that are various desktop workstations all with exim configured on them to do smarthost forwarding to another server. Currently that server is my ISP. I would like to be able to change this so that it is forwarded to another PC which would be dedicated to email serving from both my ISP account (fetchmail) and my own MX record. The problem I have is that I'm not really clear on what of the 5 choices I should pick up for the Server versus the various clients I have, which are running exim as localhost mail. Can someone give me a rough sketch of where I might start? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
