Re: fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS

2018-02-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Feb 2018 at 03:58:30 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config
> files *MANDATORY*. bull!!
> 
> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
> Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!

I worked long into the night :) to let you know this
in a posting 6 hours before you wrote this.

> The more I ask for meek user info (and receive *GEEK*speak), the
> more impressed I am with just how useful it can be *WITHOUT* any
> tweaks.

Bear in mind that fvwm has been around for this entire millennium
so it must be doing something right.

> I'll admit to two mods:
>  1. disposed of atrocious wallpaper.

I agree. It's easy to have different pictures every time you start/
restart it if you like (desktops), and I use a dynamic background
colour (laptops) that gives me the battery state and warns if the
temperature exceeds 80/85°C.

>  2. coerced visible font size suitable for tri-focal wearing
> SeniorCitizen.
> 
> I'll continue to ask for "end user" oriented documentation.
> I'll continue to drool over Geek Tweaks I get.
> 
> I'll continue to be impressed with what can be accomplished with
> fv[w]m -- "out of the box".

Great.

Cheers,
David.



Re: fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS

2018-02-27 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes:
> I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config files
> *MANDATORY*. bull!!

> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
> Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!

Actually, you can use X with no window manager at all.  It's weird and
awkward, but it works.

But you've already started tweaking your fvwm config.  That's how it
works.  In a couple of years yours will be just as ornate as ours.

BTW I recently learned that the way to control Firefox is to call it
Gecko in Style commands.  It's a PITA because it ignores the standard X
command line arguments such as "-geometry", tries to be "clever" about
placing itself, and uses its title as a message window.
Style Gecko IgnoreGravity,  !UsePPosition
seems to beat it into submission.

-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA



fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS

2018-02-27 Thread Richard Owlett

I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config files 
*MANDATORY*. bull!!


Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!

The more I ask for meek user info (and receive *GEEK*speak), the more 
impressed I am with just how useful it can be *WITHOUT* any tweaks.


I'll admit to two mods:
 1. disposed of atrocious wallpaper.
 2. coerced visible font size suitable for tri-focal wearing
SeniorCitizen.

I'll continue to ask for "end user" oriented documentation.
I'll continue to drool over Geek Tweaks I get.

I'll continue to be impressed with what can be accomplished with fvsm -- 
"out of the box".