Re: AMD Graphics and Gnome on testing (Jessie)
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Welcome to the world of proprietary drivers. Every system update can break the driver. You can either use the open source driver or re-install the proprietary driver (if it works with the new kernel xorg). I'd stick with the open source driver as long as you are running Debian/testing. The open source driver is not an option because I need hardware acceleration. However, it must be some configuration on my system, otherwise there would be tons of people complaining. Reinstalling fglrx 14.3 or 14.2 (which was working before) did not solve anything. -- Bruno Schneider http://www.dcc.ufla.br/~bruno/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAP1wdQttdsLm33nyAymxgBfRsjx-OJN=s5f5Y=kxtmfkhrc...@mail.gmail.com
AMD Graphics and Gnome on testing (Jessie)
I'm having trouble with the fglrx module on a notebook with Debian testing (Jessie). It was working well, then after a system upgrade on April 10, Gnome no longer works. The upgrade included gnome, linux-kernel, xorg and fglrx. By no long works, I mean: Gdm3 no longer shows the list of users. It seem the notebook is on graphics mode, but I can't interact with gdm3. I see a blank screen. I can't find relevant errors on Xorg.0.log or .xession-errors. If I go to a VT then enter startx I get the Oh no! Something has gone wrong. Gnome screen of death. I tried reverting to the previously working fglrx version but that didn't solve anything. -- Bruno Schneider http://www.dcc.ufla.br/~bruno/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cap1wdqvk99hgop2oatcgekyzudecdxa8nky4hm3jhqfgbl7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: AMD Graphics and Gnome on testing (Jessie)
On 12/04/14 02:20 PM, Bruno Schneider wrote: I'm having trouble with the fglrx module on a notebook with Debian testing (Jessie). It was working well, then after a system upgrade on April 10, Gnome no longer works. The upgrade included gnome, linux-kernel, xorg and fglrx. By no long works, I mean: Gdm3 no longer shows the list of users. It seem the notebook is on graphics mode, but I can't interact with gdm3. I see a blank screen. I can't find relevant errors on Xorg.0.log or .xession-errors. If I go to a VT then enter startx I get the Oh no! Something has gone wrong. Gnome screen of death. I tried reverting to the previously working fglrx version but that didn't solve anything. Welcome to the world of proprietary drivers. Every system update can break the driver. You can either use the open source driver or re-install the proprietary driver (if it works with the new kernel xorg). I'd stick with the open source driver as long as you are running Debian/testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5349ab1b.6090...@torfree.net
gnome in testing
Right now when I run 'apt-get -s upgrade' there are 172 programs in the 'not-upgraded' response. If I try to upgrade any one of them a bunch of gnome programs are also upgrade but also apt-get wants to REMOVE gnome-desktop-environment and gnome-themes among a few others. Even upgrading vim wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment, I suppose because gvim would be also be upgraded. This really doesn't make any sense to me. What is going on with gnome? -- Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome in testing
Right now when I run 'apt-get -s upgrade' there are 172 programs in the 'not-upgraded' response. If I try to upgrade any one of them a bunch of gnome programs are also upgrade but also apt-get wants to REMOVE gnome-desktop-environment and gnome-themes among a few others. I'd probably do: 1 - Write down the packages it removes (and which you don't want removed) 2 - let the upgrade take place and remove those packages 3 - re-add the packages with apt-get install the removed packages Or try `aptitude' which may give you a bit more info about what's going on. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Menu in Gnome from testing / SID
Hi! I installed alacarte and realise that there is a menu point Debian. But i do not see this point in the menu. Where i can change it. The checkbox is set so normally i have to see it. Thanks in advance CU Michael -- ,''`. Michael Ott, e-mail: michael at zolnott dot de : :' : Debian SID on Thinkpad T43: `. `'http://www.zolnott.de/laptop/ibm-t43-uc34nge.html `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Menu in Gnome from testing / SID
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:58:49PM +0200, Michael Ott wrote: Hi! I installed alacarte and realise that there is a menu point Debian. But i do not see this point in the menu. Where i can change it. The checkbox is set so normally i have to see it. Do you have the 'menu' and 'menu-xdg' package installed? menu creates the menu, and IIRC menu-xdg is required for it to work under Gnome (but I haven't used Gnome in a time, so I may be wrong). -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- La-dee-dee, la-dee-dah. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome in testing
Joseph Smidt wrote: I believe you, however why does distrowatch still say testing only has gnome 2.10: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian Perhaps they track it manually? http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/meta-gnome2.html still says gnome 2.12 has still not entered testing? According to the link on the top-right of that page, meta-gnome2 is waiting for some gstreamer0.10 stuff to be built on arm and m68k and for some time to go by. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Re: Gnome in testing
I believe you, however why does distrowatch still say testing only has gnome 2.10: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian and http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/meta-gnome2.html still says gnome 2.12 has still not entered testing?-- - Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome in testing
Is there any chance gnome 2.12 will be in testing this week? -- - Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome in testing
Joseph Smidt wrote: Is there any chance gnome 2.12 will be in testing this week? -- - Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it already is: ii gnome-panel2.12.2-3 launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome in testing
I'm already using gnome 2.12 in testing. On 2/15/06, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Smidt wrote: Is there any chance gnome 2.12 will be in testing this week? -- -Joseph Smidt[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]I think it already is:iignome-panel2.12.2-3 launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Eric Lin My public key is at www.keyserver.net. Switch to Dvorak will expire on August 14, 2006Typed on Dvorak. Switch to the Dvorak Keyboard Layout. Faster. Easier. Better. Choose Linux. Always on Target.
Help: Installing Gnome on Testing / Unstable
I've been using the same process to upgrade install Gnome on a Debian Woody install for ages, but I'm starting to have problems. My normal process is: Install Woody from CD with C / C++ development libncurses-dev Build new (2.6.6) kernel and install it Add stable APT sources to sources.list apt-get update apt-get upgrade Add unstable / testing APT sources to sources.list create /etc/apt/preferences containing: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 600 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 50 To upgrade, run: dselect update dselect select (just accept default quit straight out) dselect install At this stage in the past, the system would be upgraded to testing/unstable, but it seems now that stuff like dhcp3-client is being removed. After dselect install ran, I re-installed dhcp3-client before I rebooted. I would then normally run: apt-get install gnome and that would install all of Gnome from testing/unstable. However, when I run the install apt-get barfs and complains about a bunch of stuff that wont be installed, such as gnome-office etc etc etc. To resolve this, I tried: apt-get dist-upgrade That upgraded a bunch of stuff. But when I go back to running apt-get install gnome, it complains only about gnome-office not being installed etc. I kluged it by running apt-get install gnome-office then apt-get install gnome, and that ran ok. I then installed gdm, xserver-xfree86, some fonts, gdm etc. However, the system wont run gdm or I get a weird broken Gnome... Is there something I'm now doing wrong, or any docs I should read. I've Googled about but can only find old instructions such as in Debian Reference etc. Heyelp!! Cheers, Ben
Re: Help: Installing Gnome on Testing / Unstable
Em Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:40:08 +0200, benjim escreveu: I've been using the same process to upgrade install Gnome on a Debian Woody install for ages, but I'm starting to have problems. Consider using the sarge installer, it will be nearer to what you want. -- Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 5685 2219 Av Sgto Geraldo Santana, 1100 6/71[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.674-000 So Paulo, SPBRASIL http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing
Bonjour à tous, J'ai installé la SID sur un portable (IBM X30) avec un noyau 2.6.5 fraichement compilé. J'aimerais utiliser l'applet GNOME de monitoring de la charge batterie. Voilà mon problème, apparemment, elle ne fonctionne qu'en étant logger root, ce qui est plutôt embêtant, vous l'admettrez... En mode utilisateur normal, j'obtiens le message d'insulte suivant :) Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket En effet, je n'ai jamais installé le daemon ACPID.. Pourquoi cela fonctionne-t-il en root alors??? Merci d'avance pour votre aide, Romain PS : le fichier /var/run/acpid.socket n'existe effectivement pas...
RE: Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing
N'y aurait-il pas un moyen qui permette de vrifier l'tat de la batterie en passant par /proc ? -Original Message- From: CAPRON Romain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/2/2004 3:08 PM To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Cc: Subject:Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing Bonjour tous, J'ai install la SID sur un portable (IBM X30) avec un noyau 2.6.5 fraichement compil. J'aimerais utiliser l'applet GNOME de monitoring de la charge batterie. Voil mon problme, apparemment, elle ne fonctionne qu'en tant logger root, ce qui est plutt embtant, vous l'admettrez... En mode utilisateur normal, j'obtiens le message d'insulte suivant :) Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket En effet, je n'ai jamais install le daemon ACPID.. Pourquoi cela fonctionne-t-il en root alors??? Merci d'avance pour votre aide, Romain PS : le fichier /var/run/acpid.socket n'existe effectivement pas...
RE: Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing
Visiblement pas... Il n'y aucune configuration possible... -Message d'origine- De : BIJOUX Julien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy : mercredi 2 juin 2004 16:14 : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : RE: Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing N'y aurait-il pas un moyen qui permette de vrifier l'tat de la batterie en passant par /proc ? -Original Message- From: CAPRON Romain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/2/2004 3:08 PM To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Cc: Subject:Moniteur de charge batterie Gnome sur Testing Bonjour tous, J'ai install la SID sur un portable (IBM X30) avec un noyau 2.6.5 fraichement compil. J'aimerais utiliser l'applet GNOME de monitoring de la charge batterie. Voil mon problme, apparemment, elle ne fonctionne qu'en tant logger root, ce qui est plutt embtant, vous l'admettrez... En mode utilisateur normal, j'obtiens le message d'insulte suivant :) Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket En effet, je n'ai jamais install le daemon ACPID.. Pourquoi cela fonctionne-t-il en root alors??? Merci d'avance pour votre aide, Romain PS : le fichier /var/run/acpid.socket n'existe effectivement pas...
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
Em Mon, 04 Aug 2003 19:29:06 -0300, Cleiton Araujo escreveu: Pow eu nem consegui instalar na testing ... como vc fez ? apt-get gnome... -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Responda à lista, não a mim diretamente! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Dê nota se ajudei:http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 07:29:06PM -0300, Cleiton Araujo wrote: On Monday 04 August 2003 11:34, Daniel Cristian Cruz wrote: Pessoal, Alguém já resolveu o problema do gnome da testing, que ao iniciar aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro: Ocorreu um erro ao iniciar o Gerenciador de Configurações. Algumas configurações, como tema, sons ou papel de fundo, podem não funcionar corretamente. O Gerenciador de Configurações foi reiniciado muitas vezes. A mensagem de erro foi: Falha ao ativar 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' O GNOME tentará iniciar o gerenciador de configurações na próxima vez que for iniciado. Se alguém souber, por favor, estou acostumado a clicar no ok, mas é feio ficar com este erro. Abraços, Daniel Pow eu nem consegui instalar na testing ... como vc fez ? Desculpa não te ajudar. Cleiton Araujo Imagina, o erro é meio cabeludo mesmo... Eu tenho atualizado meu debian para testing já faz um mês ou mais, que me parece que foi quando houve a transição de gnome 1.4 para 2.0. Eu apenas troquei as linhas do sources.list de woody para testing, e comecei a dar apt-get update, apt-get upgrade e apt-get dist-upgrade todos os dias. Acho que para quem já está com o Debian instalado é só fazer o que eu fiz que deve funcionar normalmente. Abraços, Daniel
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:06:06PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Para resolver isso, eu: 1) Saí do Gnome 2) Fui para um console virtual 3) Limpei os diretórios temporários, especialmente os subdiretórios orbit-usuário 4) oaf-slay; bonobo-slay umas duas ou três vezes. Na verdade a gente deveria relatar um defeito (bug report)... Como que a gente pode relatar um bug?
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
2003-08-05, 08:52 -0300, Daniel Cristian Cruz: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:06:06PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Na verdade a gente deveria relatar um defeito (bug report)... Como que a gente pode relatar um bug? apt-get install reportbug reportbug nomadopacote Até Claudio -- +- .''`. ---| Claudio Clemens in Germany now |--| Sid |---+ | : :' : asturio at gmx.netGNU/Linux User #79942| | `. `'To C or not to C? That's the question! | | `- YE GODS, I HAVE FEET??! - Userfriendly | A tagline da mensagem anterior é ridicula. pgpmTbHEy6WKK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
Em Seg, 2003-08-04 às 18:06, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra escreveu: Did you know that you could earn money with Dot TK? It's simple. Become an affiliate today and promote Dot TK on your website! http://www.dot.tk/vc00804.html Em Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:34:17 -0300, Daniel Cristian Cruz escreveu: Ocorreu um erro ao iniciar o Gerenciador de Configurações. Algumas configurações, como tema, sons ou papel de fundo, podem não funcionar corretamente. O Gerenciador de Configurações foi reiniciado muitas vezes. A mensagem de erro foi: Falha ao ativar 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' O GNOME tentará iniciar o gerenciador de configurações na próxima vez que for iniciado. Para resolver isso, eu: 1) Saí do Gnome 2) Fui para um console virtual 3) Limpei os diretórios temporários, especialmente os subdiretórios orbit-usuário 4) oaf-slay; bonobo-slay umas duas ou três vezes. Na verdade a gente deveria relatar um defeito (bug report)... Aproveitando o embalo ... Como estah a testing? Muitos problemas? Jah tem o Gnome2? Alguem tem ideia de quando ela vai virar stable? Grato, Marcelo. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Responda à lista, não a mim diretamente! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Dê nota se ajudei:http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
Em Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:30:54 -0300, Marcelo Neres dos Santos escreveu: Como estah a testing? Muitos problemas? Jah tem o Gnome2? Sim e sim. Favor cortar as linhas irrelevantes. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Responda à lista, não a mim diretamente! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Dê nota se ajudei:http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro
Erro no gnome da testing
Pessoal, Alguém já resolveu o problema do gnome da testing, que ao iniciar aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro: Ocorreu um erro ao iniciar o Gerenciador de Configurações. Algumas configurações, como tema, sons ou papel de fundo, podem não funcionar corretamente. O Gerenciador de Configurações foi reiniciado muitas vezes. A mensagem de erro foi: Falha ao ativar 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' O GNOME tentará iniciar o gerenciador de configurações na próxima vez que for iniciado. Se alguém souber, por favor, estou acostumado a clicar no ok, mas é feio ficar com este erro. Abraços, Daniel
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
Em Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:34:17 -0300, Daniel Cristian Cruz escreveu: Ocorreu um erro ao iniciar o Gerenciador de Configurações. Algumas configurações, como tema, sons ou papel de fundo, podem não funcionar corretamente. O Gerenciador de Configurações foi reiniciado muitas vezes. A mensagem de erro foi: Falha ao ativar 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' O GNOME tentará iniciar o gerenciador de configurações na próxima vez que for iniciado. Para resolver isso, eu: 1) Saí do Gnome 2) Fui para um console virtual 3) Limpei os diretórios temporários, especialmente os subdiretórios orbit-usuário 4) oaf-slay; bonobo-slay umas duas ou três vezes. Na verdade a gente deveria relatar um defeito (bug report)... -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Responda à lista, não a mim diretamente! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Dê nota se ajudei:http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
On Monday 04 August 2003 11:34, Daniel Cristian Cruz wrote: Pessoal, Alguém já resolveu o problema do gnome da testing, que ao iniciar aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro: Ocorreu um erro ao iniciar o Gerenciador de Configurações. Algumas configurações, como tema, sons ou papel de fundo, podem não funcionar corretamente. O Gerenciador de Configurações foi reiniciado muitas vezes. A mensagem de erro foi: Falha ao ativar 'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' O GNOME tentará iniciar o gerenciador de configurações na próxima vez que for iniciado. Se alguém souber, por favor, estou acostumado a clicar no ok, mas é feio ficar com este erro. Abraços, Daniel Pow eu nem consegui instalar na testing ... como vc fez ? Desculpa não te ajudar. Cleiton Araujo
Re: Erro no gnome da testing
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:06:06 +0200 Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4) oaf-slay; bonobo-slay umas duas ou três vezes. Pode esclarecer que comandos são estes, não existe manpages para eles...
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 03:49, stan wrote: I also like The Panel, and never use desktop icons on my Gnome 2.2 system. In fact, I disable Nautilus... Well of course, that's a given. Nautilus 2 is just sooo much faster, cleaner, leaner and generally better than Nautilus 1 it may be worth you trying it again, unless you don't like graphical file managers in general. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:39:17AM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 04:49, stan wrote: Hmm, I'm at home now. Given that list I'd be missing: Dictonary lookup CPU load Both there. Don't believe every incomplete list you see :) Thanks. Can you point me to a _complete_ list, then? Slashapp Not there This is a _very_ weak looking list of choices. Is this on purpose? Gnoem 2.x has been out a _long_ time for this to be all that;s avaiable. I'm sure you have ported/coded several applets than? No, in fact the configuration storage subsystem of Gnome is so ugly (IMHO) that I will not ever find the enthusiasm to code anything for it. But this is an _old_ argument, that's not worth rehashing at this point in time. -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:20:01AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 03:49, stan wrote: I also like The Panel, and never use desktop icons on my Gnome 2.2 system. In fact, I disable Nautilus... Well of course, that's a given. Nautilus 2 is just sooo much faster, cleaner, leaner and generally better than Nautilus 1 it may be worth you trying it again, unless you don't like graphical file managers in general. I don't. Nor do I like applications that feel free to cluter my desktop with icons for _every_ file in my home directory :-) -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:24, stan wrote: I don't. Nor do I like applications that feel free to cluter my desktop with icons for _every_ file in my home directory :-) $HOME as desktop isn't the default, so you won't see this unless you turn it on yourself... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 04:20, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 03:49, stan wrote: I also like The Panel, and never use desktop icons on my Gnome 2.2 system. In fact, I disable Nautilus... Well of course, that's a given. Nautilus 2 is just sooo much faster, cleaner, leaner and generally better than Nautilus 1 it may be worth you trying it again, unless you don't like graphical file managers in general. I guess it depends on your definition of faster and leaner. A box w/ a GHz CPU and a GB of RAM should respond well to *anything* except extreme numerical calculations, and N2 doesn't. Besides, I don't like GUI file managers. -- +---+ | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | | | | Oh, great altar of passive entertainment, bestow upon me | | thy discordant images at such speed as to render linear | | thought impossible (Calvin, regarding TV) | +--- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:30:47PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:24, stan wrote: I don't. Nor do I like applications that feel free to cluter my desktop with icons for _every_ file in my home directory :-) $HOME as desktop isn't the default, so you won't see this unless you turn it on yourself... Mmm, well _somewhere_ (might have been debian, might have been FreeBSD), Nautilis got turned on by acidetn, and my entire screen filled up with icons!. I've never turned it on since :-) -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove gnome-core! (testing)
On 2 machines that I'm running testing on, this morning's apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove gnome-core. What's gong on here? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's going on with Gnome in testing?
My testing macines tried to remove gnome-core this mrning, when I did a dist-upgrade. What's going on here? Is this another case of just wait a while and it will get better? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
on Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:00:38PM -0400, stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: My testing macines tried to remove gnome-core this mrning, when I did a dist-upgrade. What's going on here? Is this another case of just wait a while and it will get better? Dunno, but I saw it to and decided to sit on the upgrade. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]# apt-get -u dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gaim-common gnome-admin gnome-applets gnome-core gnome-games gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session gnome-think The following NEW packages will be installed: gnome-desktop-data libstartup-notification0 libwnck-common libwnck4 The following packages have been kept back etherape gedit ghex gnome-gv gnumeric gnumeric-gda gnumeric-python goats mrproject nessus rcalc sqsh xmmsarts The following packages will be upgraded aalib1 dict-vera doc-linux-html doc-linux-text fdutils foomatic-bin foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine gaim lftp libgda2-1 libgda2-common libglib2.0-0 libgnutls5 libltdl3 libpng10-0 libpng10-dev libpng12-0 libpng2 libpng3 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss netbase posh syslinux whois xmms-qbble xpdf xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils 31 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 10 to remove and 13 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/31.2MB of archives. After unpacking 3217kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? SCO is the thief who puts a gun to his own head and says give me your money or I'll shoot. -- Bruce Perens http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=56225cid=5456337 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:00:38PM -0400, stan wrote: My testing macines tried to remove gnome-core this mrning, when I did a dist-upgrade. What's going on here? Is this another case of just wait a while and it will get better? It looks like GNOME 2.2 is moving in to testing. If you wait a while it probably will get better, but you can apt-get a few GNOME2 packages and get a reasonably functional desktop. I'm not sure if there are plans to eventually allow GNOME 1 and 2 to coexist within Debian or if it's a complete replacement, though I think I have seen references to a big debate about that. If you're really happy with GNOME 1.4, you might not care too much for GNOME 2.x. It's a major change in design and philosophy, and those changes have been the subject of heated discussions. You might decide you like the changes, or you might decide you don't (I don't), but you should try to use it long enough to give it a fair chance. I'll warn you that there still aren't nearly as many cool little panel applets or GNOME2-aware window managers as with 1.4. -- Michael Heironimus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:00:38PM -0400, stan wrote: My testing macines tried to remove gnome-core this mrning, when I did a dist-upgrade. What's going on here? Is this another case of just wait a while and it will get better? It looks like GNOME 2.2 is moving in to testing. If you wait a while it probably will get better, but you can apt-get a few GNOME2 packages and get a reasonably functional desktop. I'm not sure if there are plans to eventually allow GNOME 1 and 2 to coexist within Debian or if it's a complete replacement, though I think I have seen references to a big debate about that. Oh no! I tried Gnome 2 on an machine running Debian unstable and never did get anything even remotely close to the functionality I have in my Gnome 1 setups. It looks like all kinds of things have simply disappeared in Gnome 2. Am I missing something important here? If you're really happy with GNOME 1.4, you might not care too much for GNOME 2.x. It's a major change in design and philosophy, and those changes have been the subject of heated discussions. You might decide you like the changes, or you might decide you don't (I don't), but you should try to use it long enough to give it a fair chance. I'll warn you that there still aren't nearly as many cool little panel applets or GNOME2-aware window managers as with 1.4. The panel applets are a key part of why I use Gnome. My panel (on the bottom) is slap full. Let's see, on this machine from left to right, I've got, The Foot, X Terminal weather, clock, Gnome terminal, help, Galeon, CPU load, x eyes, dictionary look up, battery monitor, XMMS, CD player, Last time I looked, most of these were not available in Gnome 2. I have almost no icons on the desktop, which seems to be Gnome 2's preferred (only ?) way of invoking most things. Am I alone here? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
stan wrote: My testing macines tried to remove gnome-core this mrning, when I did a dist-upgrade. What's going on here? Is this another case of just wait a while and it will get better? gnome-core itself is a meta-package and unimportant, but I too am sitting on the upgrade for now. It scares me that gnome-panel is 2.2, but gnome-applets/gnome-control-center are still 1.4. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:55, stan wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:00:38PM -0400, stan wrote: [snip] The panel applets are a key part of why I use Gnome. My panel (on the bottom) is slap full. Let's see, on this machine from left to right, I've got, The Foot, X Terminal weather, clock, Gnome terminal, help, Galeon, CPU load, x eyes, dictionary look up, battery monitor, XMMS, CD player, Last time I looked, most of these were not available in Gnome 2. I have almost no icons on the desktop, which seems to be Gnome 2's preferred (only ?) way of invoking most things. Am I alone here? I also like The Panel, and never use desktop icons on my Gnome 2.2 system. In fact, I disable Nautilus... On my panel, I have Geyes 2.2.2 Weather Report 2.2.2 The Foot Clock 2.2.2 Icons to start up apps like Evo, Moz, OOo, XCDRoast GnomeTerm The complete(?) list of applets in gnome-applets 2.2.1 : Battstat CD player Character Palette Command line Drivemount Geyes Keyboard Layout Switcher Modemlights Stock ticker System monitor Volume control Weather report Wireless -- +---+ | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | | | | Oh, great altar of passive entertainment, bestow upon me | | thy discordant images at such speed as to render linear | | thought impossible (Calvin, regarding TV) | +--- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:12:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:55, stan wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:00:38PM -0400, stan wrote: [snip] The panel applets are a key part of why I use Gnome. My panel (on the bottom) is slap full. Let's see, on this machine from left to right, I've got, The Foot, X Terminal weather, clock, Gnome terminal, help, Galeon, CPU load, x eyes, dictionary look up, battery monitor, XMMS, CD player, Last time I looked, most of these were not available in Gnome 2. I have almost no icons on the desktop, which seems to be Gnome 2's preferred (only ?) way of invoking most things. Am I alone here? I also like The Panel, and never use desktop icons on my Gnome 2.2 system. In fact, I disable Nautilus... Well of course, that's a given. On my panel, I have Geyes 2.2.2 Weather Report 2.2.2 The Foot Clock 2.2.2 Icons to start up apps like Evo, Moz, OOo, XCDRoast GnomeTerm The complete(?) list of applets in gnome-applets 2.2.1 : Battstat CD player Character Palette Command line Drivemount Geyes Keyboard Layout Switcher Modemlights Stock ticker System monitor Volume control Weather report Wireless Hmm, I'm at home now. Given that list I'd be missing: Dictonary lookup CPU load Slashapp And I use a different clock than the standard one. This is a _very_ weak looking list of choices. Is this on purpose? Gnoem 2.x has been out a _long_ time for this to be all that;s avaiable. I vote for keeping both avaialble. I do still have Gnome crashes, but I've just tared off my ~/.gno* directries, and when they happen, I just relaod from the tar file. I'd rather put up with that, thna lose functionality. Although in a perfect world, I would not have to fo either :-( -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 02:12, Ron Johnson wrote: The complete(?) list of applets in gnome-applets 2.2.1 : Battstat CD player Character Palette Command line Drivemount Geyes Keyboard Layout Switcher Modemlights Stock ticker System monitor Volume control Weather report Wireless Uhm, no. You missed Clock Dictionary lookup Fish GnomeICU Inbox Monitor Terminal Server Client Notification area Show Desktop Button Window List Workspace Switcher These are those in Gnome proper. In Garnome, e.g., there are 3rd party applets too -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 04:49, stan wrote: Hmm, I'm at home now. Given that list I'd be missing: Dictonary lookup CPU load Both there. Don't believe every incomplete list you see :) Slashapp Not there This is a _very_ weak looking list of choices. Is this on purpose? Gnoem 2.x has been out a _long_ time for this to be all that;s avaiable. I'm sure you have ported/coded several applets than? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome z testing
Witam. Przyznam ze po odwiedzeniu witrynki art.gnome.org napalilem sie na gnome 2 :)) Czy ktos go instalowal z paczek unstable? Jak wrazenia? Z wypowiedzi Grzegorza Prokopskego w L+ wynikalo ze bezbolesne przejscie z gnoma 1.4 na 2.0 moze byc jeszcze bolesne. Wlasnie sie lamie czy dopisac unstable do sources.list, wiec bede wdzieczny za wszelkie ostrzezenia :) Pozdrawiam M --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz dosc placenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - zaloz konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
Re: Gnome z testing
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:35:27 +0100
Michał [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Witam.
Przyznam ze po odwiedzeniu witrynki art.gnome.org napalilem sie na gnome
2 :)) Czy ktos go instalowal z paczek unstable? Jak wrazenia? Z
wypowiedzi Grzegorza Prokopskego w L+ wynikalo ze bezbolesne przejscie z
gnoma 1.4 na 2.0 moze byc jeszcze bolesne.
Jade caly czas na ustable i naprawde polecam (caly system) - jedna z glownych
zalet jest brak problemow z przechodzeniem na najnowsze wersje (wszystko leci
plynnie) - owszem bywa ze cos sie sypnie ale warto.
Gnome2 tez mam - teraz praktycznie nie mam na co narzekac (choc bywaja przewalki
- dzien pozniej jest fix i nie ma problemu).
Pozdrawiam
--
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Re: Gnome z testing
It was 2002-12-05 22:35 when Michał Michał wrote: Przyznam ze po odwiedzeniu witrynki art.gnome.org napalilem sie na gnome 2 :)) Czy ktos go instalowal z paczek unstable? Jak wrazenia? Z wypowiedzi Grzegorza Prokopskego w L+ wynikalo ze bezbolesne przejscie z gnoma 1.4 na 2.0 moze byc jeszcze bolesne. Miałem zainstalowane GNOME 1.4 - ale bez nautilusa (wolny) - zamiast niego używałem ROX-Filera (paczki w sigu), potem zacząłem przechodzić na 2.0 (które było wtedy nie w'unstable' ale w'experimental') - nautilus nadal duży chociaż ponoć szybszy - ROX-Filer i tak bił go na głowę. Niestety GNOME 2.x wymaga window-managera zgodnego z NETWM więc WindowMaker z paczki odpada.. na szczęście znalazłem patcha dodającego NETWM do WMakera i zaczął działać z GNOME 2 (tyle tylko, że wolno się odpalał - używałem gnome-session 2.x). Próbowałem Metacity ale poległem - GNOME 2 za bardzo uzależniony jest od nautilusa - praktycznie większość rzeczy jak się chce zrobić to koniecznie nautilus... zmienić coś w menu (edycja menu będzie w 2.2 a w 2.0 menu jest gorsze niż w 1.4), skonfigurować... gnome-control-center 2.x gryzie się niestety z gnome-control-center 1.4 więc zachowanie softu z GNOME 1.x nie jest już konfigurowalne (nie wiem czy wygląd GTK1 można wyedytować inaczej niż edycja .gtkrc lub gnomecc). Po paru tygodniach używania przesiadłem się (za namową znajomych) na KDE 3. Najpierw 3.0.4 z kde.org, teraz mam 3.1.0 - przy czym nadal za desktop robi ROX-Filer (jakoś nie przepadam za kdesktop ani konquerorem) i jakoś nie chce mi się sprawdzać czy GNOME 2 nadaje się do użytku. Wlasnie sie lamie czy dopisac unstable do sources.list, wiec bede wdzieczny za wszelkie ostrzezenia :) Poszukaj respozytorium z GNOME 2 dla woodiego jak nie chcesz przechodzić na sida. -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcinatamigadotpl goto: http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ Packrat's Credo: I have no use for it, but I hate to see it go to waste.
Re: Gnome z testing
Dnia Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:47:31 +0100 napisałeś/napisałaś: Miałem zainstalowane GNOME 1.4 - ale bez nautilusa (wolny) - zamiast niego używałem ROX-Filera (paczki w sigu), potem zacząłem przechodzić na 2.0 (które było wtedy nie w'unstable' ale w'experimental') - nautilus nadal duży chociaż ponoć szybszy - ROX-Filer i tak bił go na głowę. Niestety GNOME 2.x wymaga window-managera zgodnego z NETWM więc WindowMaker z paczki odpada.. na szczęście znalazłem patcha dodającego NETWM do WMakera i zaczął działać z GNOME 2 (tyle tylko, że wolno się odpalał - używałem gnome-session 2.x). Próbowałem Metacity ale poległem - GNOME 2 za bardzo uzależniony jest od nautilusa - praktycznie większość rzeczy jak się chce zrobić to koniecznie nautilus... zmienić coś w menu (edycja menu będzie w 2.2 a w 2.0 menu jest gorsze niż w 1.4), skonfigurować... gnome-control-center 2.x gryzie się niestety z gnome-control-center 1.4 więc zachowanie softu z GNOME 1.x nie jest już konfigurowalne (nie wiem czy wygląd GTK1 można wyedytować inaczej niż edycja .gtkrc lub gnomecc). No walsnie. W zyciu nie uzywalem nautilusa, bo wolny. A ja nie mam super mocnego kompa (Duron600 256 ram, geforce2mx). Z tego samego powodu zrezygnowalem z kde. Po paru tygodniach używania przesiadłem się (za namową znajomych) na KDE 3. Najpierw 3.0.4 z kde.org, teraz mam 3.1.0 - przy czym nadal za desktop robi ROX-Filer (jakoś nie przepadam za kdesktop ani konquerorem) i jakoś nie chce mi się sprawdzać czy GNOME 2 nadaje się do użytku. Wlasnie sie lamie czy dopisac unstable do sources.list, wiec bede wdzieczny za wszelkie ostrzezenia :) Poszukaj respozytorium z GNOME 2 dla woodiego jak nie chcesz przechodzić na sida. W sumie, wczoraj przeszedlem bez zadnych bolow ze stable na testing, jedyne co musialem zrobic to od nowa dorobic kolko w myszce. Jeszcze jedno pytanko. Jakie wymagania sprzetowe ma gnome 2 do komfortowej pracy? JA tymczasem cichutko zmienie wpisy w source.list... M --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz dość płacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - załóż konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
Re: Gnome z testing
Użytkownik Michał napisał: W sumie, wczoraj przeszedlem bez zadnych bolow ze stable na testing, jedyne co musialem zrobic to od nowa dorobic kolko w myszce. U mnie nie było aż tak bezboleśnie. Do dziś mam problem. Padł mi gdmflexiserver i do dziś nie działa, a jest to naprawdę baaardzo uciążliwe. Poza tym musiałem rekonfigurować xfree. Nie wspominam już o takich bzdetach jak to, że gdy uruchomię dźwięki dla zdarzeń to wszystko koszmarnie wolno chodzi - dość powiedzieć, że logowanie do Gnome'a trwa kilka minut. Dźwięki są nieraz odtwarzane z opóźnieniem kilkuset sekund i taka praca jest niemożliwa. Pomogło dopiero usunięcie całej zawartości katalogu /home//user//.gnome/sounds i zabranie mu wszystkich praw żeby się przypadkiem nie odnowił. Teraz jest ok, ale to przecież nie najlepsze rozwiązanie. -- http://www.miki.z.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gadu-gadu: 2128279 Mobile: +48607345846 Linux Registered User # 285966 Linux is a good wigwam - no windows, no gates, and apache inside!
Re: Gnome 1.4 (testing) und OpenOffice
Openoffice 1.0.1 (von OpenOffice.org, nicht die debian-Pakete) läuft hier prima. Aber wenn ich Gnome als Desktop wähle (1.4 aus testing) dann stürzt Openoffice beim Start sang-, klang- und vor allem fehlermeldungslos ab. Nun weiß ich leider nicht, ob das auch mit der vorherigen Gnome-Version aus stable so war, aber hat jemand eine Idee, voran das liegen könnte? Beim Start von OO muss der Gnome Session Manager abgeschaltet sein. Wenn Du OO mit dem Befehl /usr/bin/openoffice aufrufst, sollte es funktionieren, weil in dem Script die Abschaltung implementiert ist. Mit soffice aus dem Userverzeichnis wird OO gekillt. Viel Glück! Ralph -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Gnome 1.4 (testing) und OpenOffice
Ihr Lieben, habe hier gerade etwas Merkwürdiges festgestellt: Openoffice 1.0.1 (von OpenOffice.org, nicht die debian-Pakete) läuft hier prima. Aber wenn ich Gnome als Desktop wähle (1.4 aus testing) dann stürzt Openoffice beim Start sang-, klang- und vor allem fehlermeldungslos ab. Nun weiß ich leider nicht, ob das auch mit der vorherigen Gnome-Version aus stable so war, aber hat jemand eine Idee, voran das liegen könnte? Klaumi -- Klaus-M. Klingsporn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.klaumikli.de -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Pedido de ajuda (Era: Acentuação e fontes no Gnome do testing)
O que é necessário para obter respostas a pedidos de ajuda? -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutrafax +41 (21) 216 19 04 \ / http://homepage.mac.com/leandrod/ Orange Communications CH X http://tutoriald.sf.net./ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTML +41 (21) 216 15 93
Re: Pedido de ajuda (Era: A centuação e fontes no Gnome do testing)
Leandro, tente export LC_CTYPE=pt_BR. Se não resolver tente o seguinte. Eu estava com este problema na semana passada, exportando a LC_CTYPE não estava funcionando. Instalei o localeconf (apt-get install localeconf) e consegui. HTH, Rafael Sasaki
Acentuação e fontes no Gnome do testing
Estou com o testing, regularmente atualizado, rodando Gnome e sawfish. Não instalei nenhum pacote externo. A acentuação está extremamente inconsistente. No Pan -- que estou usando para esta mensagem -- acentuo normalmente. A fonte do corpo da mensagem é Adobe Courier ISO8859-1. Já no gedit, consigo digitar os acentos mas eles não aparecem. Não adianta usar a mesma fonte que no Pan, os acentos simplesmente não aparecem. Entretanto, se copio o texto do gedit e o colo em outro aplicativo, como o Emacs, os acentos aparecem -- ou seja, eles estavam lá mas não eram mostrados. No Mozilla, nem isso. Mesmo tentando digitar às cegas os caracteres acentuados, ao colar o texto assim digitado em outros programas nada aparece. Ou seja, nem a entrada dos caracteres acentuados funcionou. Se tento mudar a fonte usada no Seletor de Temas do Control Center do Gnome, todas as palavras acentuadas na interface terminam no último caracter antes do primeiro acentuado. Por exemplo, Aparência vira Apar e Aplicações, Aplica. Já tentei fontes ISO10464-1 (Unicode?), ISO8859-1, ISO8859-15, mas nada. Tenho um programa, o Gnomesword, que precisa de fontes Unicode. Tentei usar a GNU Unifont ou a ClearlyU. Nenhuma funciona, e ambas, no Selector de Fontes, aparecem como -ETL-fixed-bold-i-normal--16-160-72-72-C-80-ISO8859-1. Tentei usar o Portuguese-HOWTO e o Danish-HOWTO, mas me parece que eles dão soluções para problemas diferentes, e que muito do que descrevem está obsoleto com o Debian 3. Pensei em seguir o Unicode-HOWTO, ou mesmo em tentar instalar algum empacotamento do Gnome 2, mas queria entender o que está errado antes de sair tentando. Ah, e o Pan se recusa a enviar mensagens se meu nome estiver acentuado no From:. Sem contar que o Evolution é extremamente errático, mas acho que isso já é outra estória. Se precisarem mais detalhes, é só falar. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 35 / \ http://homepage.mac.com/leandrod/ +41 (21) 216 15 93 \ / Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse fx +41 (21) 216 19 04 / \ Fita ASCII contra correio eletrônico HTML BRASIL
Fontes no Gnome do testing
Ajuda, por favor... Estou com comportamentos estranhos no meu xfs... Ah, usando testing, Gnome 1.4.1, PowerPC. Várias fontes recusam-se a colaborar. Tanto a GNU UniFont quanto a ClearlyU, no Gnome Font Selector, aparecem sempre como ETL fixed bold italic. Outras, como a BitStream CyberBit, não aparecem nem no xfontsel. Procurei sob /var/log, mas não encontrei nada relevante. Idéias? -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 35 / \ http://homepage.mac.com/leandrod/ +41 (21) 216 15 93 \ / Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse fx +41 (21) 216 19 04 / \ Fita ASCII contra correio eletrônico HTML BRASIL
Re: Gnome and Testing
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:52:37AM +, Richard Sweeney wrote: I am at a loss as how to install Gnome from the testing distribution. At first I installed the x-window-system and gnome from stable by issuing apt-get install task-x-window-system-core task-x-window-system task-gnome-desktop this worked fine but I need the X-Server from testing to support my video card so i switched to testing and issued apt-get install xerver-xfree86 unfortunately it decided it was going to remove my gnome desktop and several other components. Is gnome only available in stable? Before I managed to lose my installation I could just issue the first apt-get statement in testing and it would do everything for me. Could someone give me some pointers as to what I need to issue to apt to install my gnome desktop and be able to use XFree86 4.x please? apt-get install gnome-session To use XFree86 4.x, you need to configure /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or XFree86 --configure Read man for XFree86 and man XF86Config-4 for more info. One other question, I use a 56k modem and apt is painfully slow at retrieving the files, ~1.5kb per second. Is there anything I can do (apart from getting broardband) to improve the download speed? I'm using the fastest mirror I could find. You could try apt-spy to see if you can locate a mirror with a faster download. Sorry this is such a long message. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Richard Sweeney _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jerome pgphUzN4mvL4R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Gnome and Testing
I am at a loss as how to install Gnome from the testing distribution. At first I installed the x-window-system and gnome from stable by issuing apt-get install task-x-window-system-core task-x-window-system task-gnome-desktop this worked fine but I need the X-Server from testing to support my video card so i switched to testing and issued apt-get install xerver-xfree86 unfortunately it decided it was going to remove my gnome desktop and several other components. Is gnome only available in stable? Before I managed to lose my installation I could just issue the first apt-get statement in testing and it would do everything for me. Could someone give me some pointers as to what I need to issue to apt to install my gnome desktop and be able to use XFree86 4.x please? One other question, I use a 56k modem and apt is painfully slow at retrieving the files, ~1.5kb per second. Is there anything I can do (apart from getting broardband) to improve the download speed? I'm using the fastest mirror I could find. Sorry this is such a long message. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Richard Sweeney _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
Hi all, I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a brief stint with KDE. Anyway, I noticed that things were pretty slow when it came to GNOME-ified apps. The control panel and gmc took their sweet time in launching and moving from section to section under the control panel was equally slow. I decided to take a look at the console I started the X session from and there was a screenfull of error messages like so: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0xE23EADO) Interspersed were a few of these messages: /bin/sh: esd: command not found Does anyone know what might be the culprit for the first? And just what is esd? I searched the package directories on the Debian site and came up empty handed. It is that sound server thing? TIA! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:59:40PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi all, I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a Did you use dselect? brief stint with KDE. Anyway, I noticed that things were pretty slow when it came to GNOME-ified apps. The control panel and gmc took their sweet time in launching and moving from section to section under the control panel was equally slow. I decided to take a look at the Well, it's designed to compete with microsoft windows. Try to follow the same hardware specifications. Or install fvwm. :-) console I started the X session from and there was a screenfull of error messages like so: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0xE23EADO) Interspersed were a few of these messages: /bin/sh: esd: command not found It expects the package esd installed on your system. If you see these messages, there should have been a depends: esd in the package that emits these messages. Instead there is probably just a suggests: esd somewhere. If you do not use dselect, you might not have noticed these details. Cheers, Joost
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:59:40PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: | Hi all, | | I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a | brief stint with KDE. Anyway, I noticed that things were pretty slow | when it came to GNOME-ified apps. The control panel and gmc took their | sweet time in launching and moving from section to section under the | control panel was equally slow. I decided to take a look at the I don't know why it would be slow for you. It is nice and fast for me. I really like GNOME (with Sawfish as window manager). | console I started the X session from and there was a screenfull of | error messages like so: | | Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0xE23EADO) I ignore these. I see lots of similar messages from a lot of GTK/GNOME apps. They are just warnings, but the app probably ought to check the condition first so you don't get the warning. | Interspersed were a few of these messages: | | /bin/sh: esd: command not found | | Does anyone know what might be the culprit for the first? And just | what is esd? I searched the package directories on the Debian site and | came up empty handed. It is that sound server thing? Yes Enlightened Sound Daemon. I don't have a sound card in this box, but I used to have one and it could only play 1 sound at a time. So if I had WinAmp going, and I was working on a presentation in PowerPoint, I wouldn't notice that ppt had a default sound to go with the animation. I found out when I started the presentation in class (true story!). When you use ESD, it controls the sound card (/dev/dsp usually, I think). Then apps that want to play a sound request it from esd, and esd mixes all the wavs together so that your sound card plays all of them. Reallly cool! I guess you don't have it installed. Try the search on file names in packages. -D
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Mark Wagnon wrote: i think it is a known problem (check gnome mailing lists archives or google). it occurs when esd is not present or improperly configured. installing esd should make the problem go away. Hi all, I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a brief stint with KDE. Anyway, I noticed that things were pretty slow when it came to GNOME-ified apps. The control panel and gmc took their sweet time in launching and moving from section to section under the control panel was equally slow. I decided to take a look at the console I started the X session from and there was a screenfull of error messages like so: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0xE23EADO) Interspersed were a few of these messages: /bin/sh: esd: command not found Does anyone know what might be the culprit for the first? And just what is esd? I searched the package directories on the Debian site and came up empty handed. It is that sound server thing? TIA! -- - amardeep singh iit guwahati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On 07/04/01 16:34:08 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a Did you use dselect? well, not dselect exactly, apt-get. Well, it's designed to compete with microsoft windows. Try to follow the same hardware specifications. Or install fvwm. :-) ;-) It shouldn't have too many problems runnnig as I have an 800 MHz Athlon with 256M of RAM. Actually, this morning it seems a LOT snappier. /bin/sh: esd: command not found It expects the package esd installed on your system. If you see these messages, there should have been a depends: esd in the package that emits these messages. Instead there is probably just a suggests: esd somewhere. If you do not use dselect, you might not have noticed these details. Shouldn't APT and dselect get the same results? I though APT was a front-end to dselect. Well, I found and installed (via APT) the esound packages and all seems to be well now. Thanks! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On 07/04/01 12:02:24 -0400, D-Man wrote: | I did an upgrade tonight and decided to take a look at GNOME after a | brief stint with KDE. Anyway, I noticed that things were pretty slow | when it came to GNOME-ified apps. The control panel and gmc took their | sweet time in launching and moving from section to section under the | control panel was equally slow. I decided to take a look at the I don't know why it would be slow for you. It is nice and fast for me. I really like GNOME (with Sawfish as window manager). Same setup, but it seems to have corrected itself overnight. The upgrade I performed downloaded some 40+ packages, so maybe it was doing some behind-the-scenes organization for a little while. I ignore these. I see lots of similar messages from a lot of GTK/GNOME apps. They are just warnings, but the app probably ought to check the condition first so you don't get the warning. Normally I would've. I've seen similar messages before, but since this was a new install, I assumed a cause-and-effect relationship. Yes Enlightened Sound Daemon. I don't have a sound card in this Ah, thanks. I wonder why my search for esd didn't turn this up. Oops, now I know. I searched the package directories instead of the contents. I must have been more tired than I thought. I've installed the esound package and the abherrant behavior has ceased. Thanks for the help! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On 07/04/01 19:45:39 +0300, Amardeep Singh wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Mark Wagnon wrote: i think it is a known problem (check gnome mailing lists archives or google). it occurs when esd is not present or improperly configured. installing esd should make the problem go away. Ah, okay. I installed the esound package this morning and all is well. Thanks! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 09:50:54AM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: | On 07/04/01 16:34:08 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: | | Well, it's designed to compete with microsoft windows. Try to follow | the same hardware specifications. Or install fvwm. :-) | | ;-) | | It shouldn't have too many problems runnnig as I have an 800 MHz | Athlon with 256M of RAM. Actually, this morning it seems a LOT | snappier. That's good. It ran fine for me with a PII 300, 64MB RAM (my old box) and is fine now with a Duron 750 and 128MB RAM. | Well, I found and installed (via APT) the esound packages and all | seems to be well now. esound is another abbreviation for the name. -D
Re: GTK Errors using GNOME in Testing
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:02:24PM -0400, D-Man uttered: Yes Enlightened Sound Daemon. I don't have a sound card in this box, but I used to have one and it could only play 1 sound at a time. So if I had WinAmp going, and I was working on a presentation in PowerPoint, I wouldn't notice that ppt had a default sound to go with the animation. I found out when I started the presentation in class (true story!). When you use ESD, it controls the sound card (/dev/dsp usually, I think). Then apps that want to play a sound request it from esd, and esd mixes all the wavs together so that your sound card plays all of them. Reallly cool! I guess you don't have it installed. Try the search on file names in packages. Some sound cards do this as well. Moving from my ES1371-based card to a SB Live, I found multiple sounds could play at once, which was quite nifty, but it makes it hard when you start Quake2, and go Do'h! I left XMMS running! :-) -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me pgp0uiUZbkLA8.pgp Description: PGP signature
