[solved] Re: hda=stroke for installer?
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:23:53PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to install sarge on an old (Celeron 366) machine with a new disk. Thanks to all those who offered advice. To summarise: I jumpered my 80G disk to clip its capacity, so that my old Award bios would boot. For Linux to see this, with a recent (=2.6.7) kernel, the ide driver needs the 'hda=stroke' option. The debian installer uses modules for all that, so putting it on the command line doesn't work - it has to go with loading the module. The module in question is ide_core, which is normally loaded implicitly when you load another module that depends on it. That doesn't allow for adding options, so I had to shell out and run modprobe ide_core options=hda=stroke from the command line, before letting the installer start loading the other ide modules (which it does when looking for the CDROM, so I had to get in before that). Note also that the syntax is different: when using a built-in driver, just add 'hda=stroke' to the kernel command line; when using a module, it's 'options=hda=stroke'. That lets the installer do it's thing, but it doesn't pass that on to the installed system. When I install debian, I usually create a root partition of around 2G, from which I set up LVM and so on for the rest of it. That all fits in the first 33.8G (naturally), so it let me carry on to build a kernel with the ide drivers built in (and in fact no initrd at all), which I then installed. Lastly I tweaked /boot/grub/menu.lst to add 'hda=stroke' (no 'options' stuff this time) to the command line, and I now see the full disk. I'm sure it's possible to get the initrd stuff set up right too, but I'm less familiar with that, so I didn't pursue that very far. Hopefully that helps anyone in a similar situation :-) What I really need, of course, is better hardware ... the PII 400 machine behind me is still clunking away building the kernel; I gave up waiting for it after about half an hour, and sshed in to work and built it on my P4 1.7 and copied it back in a fraction of the time (woohoo - the other one's finished now too!). Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hda=stroke for installer?
Hi all, I'm trying to install sarge on an old (Celeron 366) machine with a new disk. From what I've read, I should be able to use the jumper on my seagate st380011a to limit it to 33.8G, then use hda=stroke on the kernel command line (for kernels later than 2.6.7), and linux should see the whole lot. I've downloaded a netinst iso that has 2.6.8, so that bit should be ok, and I then boot with either linux26 hda=stroke or expert26 hda=stroke but when I get to the partitioner, it still shows up as 33.8G rather than the 80G it should be. Good old fdisk shows the same thing. dmesg shows (hand typed, so there may be errors): hda: Host Protected Area detected. current capacity is 66055248 sectors (33820 MB) native capacity is 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) hda: 66055248 sectors (33820 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33) so the kernel knows about the issue at some level. My resources so far include: http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st380011a.html http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-11.html Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hda=stroke for installer?
Richard Hector wrote: From what I've read, I should be able to use the jumper on my seagate st380011a to limit it to 33.8G, then use hda=stroke on the kernel command line (for kernels later than 2.6.7), and linux should see the whole lot. [snip] Any suggestions? Well, I've actually been able to use new 80GB disks in very old computers (Pentium 200 Classic) with no jumper limiter... Maybe you could try to boot without the jumper? Even if the bios can't see the whole disk, Linux will see it you just need to get booted.. (in last instance you can boot from a floppy ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hda=stroke for installer?
Richard Hector wrote: I've downloaded a netinst iso that has 2.6.8, so that bit should be ok, and I then boot with either linux26 hda=stroke or expert26 hda=stroke As far as I know passing parameters to the ide (or whatever) module like this will only work if it's built into the kernel, not if it's a module. If it's a module the parameter has to be passed when the module is modprobed. When you boot in expert mode it should let you specifiy module parameters before loading whichever module is the one that processes this parameter and you can enter it there. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hda=stroke for installer?
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:13:59PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Richard Hector wrote: I've downloaded a netinst iso that has 2.6.8, so that bit should be ok, and I then boot with either linux26 hda=stroke or expert26 hda=stroke As far as I know passing parameters to the ide (or whatever) module like this will only work if it's built into the kernel, not if it's a module. If it's a module the parameter has to be passed when the module is modprobed. When you boot in expert mode it should let you specifiy module parameters before loading whichever module is the one that processes this parameter and you can enter it there. Excellent, thanks - that certainly pointed me in the right direction. Unfortunately, the module that needs the option is ide_core, and that isn't loaded explicitly by the installer, so I had no chance to add the option there. What I had to do was, once it said it was going to detect the CDROM, I went to the 2nd VC and ran modprobe ide_core options=hda=stroke (and working out the options= bit took some time, too ...), then I returned to the installer and didn't need to specify anything else. The next problem is that, presumably because the installer knew nothing about what I had done, it didn't add the option to the initrd image either, so on reboot I'm back to a 33.8G disk. I'm now working through how to recreate the initrd image ... Many thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
