Re: importing an address book to Icedove
Hello, in the following I assume that Icedove is Thunderbird ... > Hello Debian Users, > > I have an address book from an old Windows > system to import into Icedove. > > Currently there is a text file on the target > system containing lines in this syntax. > > ,,, > no, default order of fields seams to be: - ,, , , After these many more fields can come. You can fill the fields in one existing address book and export them in text or csv format to study them (if you need or want). BR, Roland > > Example. > > John,Doe,John Doe,[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Larry,Doe,Larry Doe,[EMAIL PROTECTED] >... > > The names are imported but the addresses > are not. Should the addresses be enclosed > in quotes or pointed brackets or something? > > Thanks,Peter E. > > > Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail
importing an address book to Icedove
Hello Debian Users, I have an address book from an old Windows system to import into Icedove. Currently there is a text file on the target system containing lines in this syntax. ,,, Example. John,Doe,John Doe,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry,Doe,Larry Doe,[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The names are imported but the addresses are not. Should the addresses be enclosed in quotes or pointed brackets or something? Thanks,Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
It turns out that I had the unstable repository as part of the
sources.list and I hadn't specified that
testing is my default distribution. So... it seems I have been running a
mixed testing-unstable box.
I have purged the unstable version of icedove and reinstalled the
testing version. All is well
Thanks very much.
Art Edwards
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:00:16PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
Hi Andrew.
Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53:
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […]
A
What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so
far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny.
the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now
propogating into lenny.
This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; currently in
Testing is still version 1.5.0.10.
you are, of course, correct. There was some confusion (in my brain)
thinking the other poster was running lenny, but he's not.
To the OP, what version are you running? I think you may have
inadvertently moved up to sid instead of staying in lenny.
A
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Re: Icedove
Thanks very much. A purge and an install has me back up and running. Art Edwards Joe wrote: KS wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: When reinstalling 1.5.0.10 everything was instantly back to normal. In #425390, Alexander says: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425390;msg=45 "For now, please purge icedove from your system ... then reinstall. - Alexander" Does he mean purge 2.0.0-3 and then reinstall 2.0.0-3 or 1.5.0.10 ? I'm still waiting for this to sort out before I upgrade. Looks like my other post has got lost. I've purged and reinstalled 2.0.0.0-3 and it seems OK, apart from the lack of an icon. Fonts are very different, when I have time I'll tweak them a bit. Joe -- Arthur H. Edwards Senior Research Physicist Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave. SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776 (505) 853-6042 (O) (505) 463-6722 (C) (505) 846-2290 (F) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
KS wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: When reinstalling 1.5.0.10 everything was instantly back to normal. In #425390, Alexander says: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425390;msg=45 "For now, please purge icedove from your system ... then reinstall. - Alexander" Does he mean purge 2.0.0-3 and then reinstall 2.0.0-3 or 1.5.0.10 ? I'm still waiting for this to sort out before I upgrade. Looks like my other post has got lost. I've purged and reinstalled 2.0.0.0-3 and it seems OK, apart from the lack of an icon. Fonts are very different, when I have time I'll tweak them a bit. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/07 15:55, KS wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> When reinstalling 1.5.0.10 everything was instantly back to normal. >> > > In #425390, Alexander says: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425390;msg=45 > > "For now, please purge icedove from your system ... then reinstall. > > - Alexander" > > Does he mean purge 2.0.0-3 and then reinstall 2.0.0-3 or 1.5.0.10 ? > > I'm still waiting for this to sort out before I upgrade. I reinstalled 1.5.0.10. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGU1woS9HxQb37XmcRArOvAJ4+cmPiv8I7zFfkdmtLAP2ZsLb70ACgoPdk HXuNPN1IzTKKA+vGfptCP6w= =bkyP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/07 12:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried that. I would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous requirements placed on them before the get into testing. I know that there are all kinds of warnings, but the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on testing for hardware compatibility. yours is at least the second icedove related mail today. Have you reported a bug? That is the purpose of testing -- to highlight bugs so they can be fixed. It is certainly not an *obligation* of those running testing to report bugs, but if they don't then the package will end up broken in the next stable. This, of course, is supposed to happen in unstable as well, to keep the number of bugs in testing down, but obviously no one running unstable has run in to this problem in time to keep the bug from propogating into testing. I just upgraded to 2.0.0-3 and it failed miserably, with a blank screen. Fortunately, apt-listbugs mentioned that this is a known grave bug. So I purged it and dpkg installed v1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 which I'm now writing this from. I had no icon (still haven't) and no profile. I purged and reinstalled 2.0.0.0-3 and apart from the missing icon, it seems to work. It picked up the old .mozilla-thunderbird profile, which fortunately hadn't been touched. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
Ron Johnson wrote: > > When reinstalling 1.5.0.10 everything was instantly back to normal. > In #425390, Alexander says: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425390;msg=45 "For now, please purge icedove from your system ... then reinstall. - Alexander" Does he mean purge 2.0.0-3 and then reinstall 2.0.0-3 or 1.5.0.10 ? I'm still waiting for this to sort out before I upgrade. /KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/07 15:07, Joe wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:00:16PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: >>> Hi Andrew. >>> >>> Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53: >>>> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: >>>>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […] >>>>>> A >>>>>> >>>>> What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and >>>>> so far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. >>>> the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now >>>> propogating into lenny. >>> This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; >>> currently in >>> Testing is still version 1.5.0.10. >> >> you are, of course, correct. There was some confusion (in my brain) >> thinking the other poster was running lenny, but he's not. >> To the OP, what version are you running? I think you may have >> inadvertently moved up to sid instead of staying in lenny. >> > > I've just acquired 2.0.0.0 (20070521) in Sid and it's not reading > my profile. I've just had to configure TB in Windows to get this > group. I was hoping to see a fix. This happened in the Weasel a > while back and a bit of copying and renaming of profiles was the > answer. My old one fortunately hasn't been touched. When reinstalling 1.5.0.10 everything was instantly back to normal. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGU1S4S9HxQb37XmcRAs2KAKDsKd3i9Bo/Gx77WNFWbUdbmV0jOACgwIBm qSZ/K+mIsxlLrjUzwO4sx9A= =omwh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:00:16PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Andrew. Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […] A What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now propogating into lenny. This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; currently in Testing is still version 1.5.0.10. you are, of course, correct. There was some confusion (in my brain) thinking the other poster was running lenny, but he's not. To the OP, what version are you running? I think you may have inadvertently moved up to sid instead of staying in lenny. I've just acquired 2.0.0.0 (20070521) in Sid and it's not reading my profile. I've just had to configure TB in Windows to get this group. I was hoping to see a fix. This happened in the Weasel a while back and a bit of copying and renaming of profiles was the answer. My old one fortunately hasn't been touched. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/07 12:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: >> Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about >> downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried that. >> I would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous >> requirements placed on them before the get into testing. I know that there >> are all kinds of warnings, but >> the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on >> testing for hardware compatibility. > > yours is at least the second icedove related mail today. Have you > reported a bug? That is the purpose of testing -- to highlight bugs so > they can be fixed. > > It is certainly not an *obligation* of those running testing to report > bugs, but if they don't then the package will end up broken in the > next stable. This, of course, is supposed to happen in unstable as > well, to keep the number of bugs in testing down, but obviously no one > running unstable has run in to this problem in time to keep the bug > from propogating into testing. I just upgraded to 2.0.0-3 and it failed miserably, with a blank screen. Fortunately, apt-listbugs mentioned that this is a known grave bug. So I purged it and dpkg installed v1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 which I'm now writing this from. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGU089S9HxQb37XmcRApg6AKDBJOuat741KAWHQ1ID96APhlRWwwCeLGCo HAzkLj2uh4BxIjDW0UiEid0= =Wji+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:00:16PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hi Andrew. > > Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53: > > On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: > >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > >>> > >>>> Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […] > >>> A > >>> > >> What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so > >> far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. > > > > the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now > > propogating into lenny. > > This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; currently in > Testing is still version 1.5.0.10. you are, of course, correct. There was some confusion (in my brain) thinking the other poster was running lenny, but he's not. To the OP, what version are you running? I think you may have inadvertently moved up to sid instead of staying in lenny. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Icedove 2.0.0.0-3 badly broken
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:29:27AM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > I have a PC with an AMD Athlon64 3500+ chip. I have up-to-date Debian > unstable, i386 port, on the system. Yesterday synaptic installed a new > version of icedove: 2.0.0.0-3. This version was badly broken: I couldn't > even press the buttons on the GUI. I replaced the broken version with > 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 which works fine. > > The package documentation at debian.org says: > > Package: icedove (2.0.0.0-3, 2.0.0.0-2, 2.0.0.0-1, 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3) > > Versions: 2.0.0.0-2 [alpha, hppa, ia64], 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 [arm, i386, > kfreebsd-i386, m68k, mips, mipsel, sparc], 2.0.0.0-1 [powerpc], > 2.0.0.0-3 [amd64, s390] > > Was there some confusion somewhere that led to the wrong version being > installed? I think packages.debian.org is just out of date. 2.0.0.0-3 is in sid according to my apt-cache and a quick check of the pool shows that there is a .deb of i386 available. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Icedove
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Andrew. Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […] A What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now propogating into lenny. This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; currently in Testing is still version 1.5.0.10. Regards, Mathias Well, 2.0.0.3 is only one day old in unstable, so we've got 9 more days to fret about this ;-) My guess is that OP is mistaken about running icedove from testing. /Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove
Hi Andrew. Andrew Sackville-West, 22.05.2007 19:53: > On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: >>> >>>> Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. […] >>> A >>> >> What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so >> far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. > > the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now > propogating into lenny. This cannot be since this version has not passed the 10 days yet; currently in Testing is still version 1.5.0.10. Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Icedove
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:42:07PM +0100, andy wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > > > >>Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about > >>downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried > >>that. I would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous > >>requirements placed on them before the get into testing. I know that > >>there are all kinds of warnings, but > >>the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on > >>testing for hardware compatibility. > >> > > > >yours is at least the second icedove related mail today. Have you > >reported a bug? That is the purpose of testing -- to highlight bugs so > >they can be fixed. > > > >It is certainly not an *obligation* of those running testing to report > >bugs, but if they don't then the package will end up broken in the > >next stable. This, of course, is supposed to happen in unstable as > >well, to keep the number of bugs in testing down, but obviously no one > >running unstable has run in to this problem in time to keep the bug > >from propogating into testing. > > > >A > > > What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so > far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. the other mail mentioned 2.0.0.3 which is in sid and apparently is now propogating into lenny. I don't use it, though so can't speak to the specific issues. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Icedove
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried that. I would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous requirements placed on them before the get into testing. I know that there are all kinds of warnings, but the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on testing for hardware compatibility. yours is at least the second icedove related mail today. Have you reported a bug? That is the purpose of testing -- to highlight bugs so they can be fixed. It is certainly not an *obligation* of those running testing to report bugs, but if they don't then the package will end up broken in the next stable. This, of course, is supposed to happen in unstable as well, to keep the number of bugs in testing down, but obviously no one running unstable has run in to this problem in time to keep the bug from propogating into testing. A What version Icedove? I'm running version 1.5.0.10 (20070329) and so far, so good. I am also updating from testing/Lenny. A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Icedove
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:17:36AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about > downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried that. I > would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous requirements > placed on them before the get into testing. I know that there are all kinds > of warnings, but > the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on > testing for hardware compatibility. yours is at least the second icedove related mail today. Have you reported a bug? That is the purpose of testing -- to highlight bugs so they can be fixed. It is certainly not an *obligation* of those running testing to report bugs, but if they don't then the package will end up broken in the next stable. This, of course, is supposed to happen in unstable as well, to keep the number of bugs in testing down, but obviously no one running unstable has run in to this problem in time to keep the bug from propogating into testing. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Icedove
Icedove/testing appears to be seriously broken. There was a post about downgrading to icedove/stable. However, I got a segfault when I tried that. I would suggest that certain core applications have more rigorous requirements placed on them before the get into testing. I know that there are all kinds of warnings, but the (much) longer intervals between stable releases means many rely on testing for hardware compatibility. Art Edwards -- Arthur H. Edwards Senior Research Physicist Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave. SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776 (505) 853-6042 (O) (505) 463-6722 (C) (505) 846-2290 (F) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Icedove 2.0.0.0-3 badly broken
I have a PC with an AMD Athlon64 3500+ chip. I have up-to-date Debian unstable, i386 port, on the system. Yesterday synaptic installed a new version of icedove: 2.0.0.0-3. This version was badly broken: I couldn't even press the buttons on the GUI. I replaced the broken version with 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 which works fine. The package documentation at debian.org says: Package: icedove (2.0.0.0-3, 2.0.0.0-2, 2.0.0.0-1, 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3) Versions: 2.0.0.0-2 [alpha, hppa, ia64], 1.5.0.10.dfsg1-3 [arm, i386, kfreebsd-i386, m68k, mips, mipsel, sparc], 2.0.0.0-1 [powerpc], 2.0.0.0-3 [amd64, s390] Was there some confusion somewhere that led to the wrong version being installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dates and times in Icedove
Ken Heard wrote, on 2007-04-26 00:26: All the dates of e-mails in Icedove are backwards at least in my boxes, i.e., day-month-year, instead of year-month-day. Likewise, the times are in 12 hour notation, followed by AM or PM. My locale preferences in KDE are set as year-month-day and 24 hour time and date formats. Apparently these settings apply only to KDE applications, not user-wide. Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide? Otherwise, is there an extension to Icedove to set those formats for Icedove? I googled the Mozilla website to find such an extension using time and date as search words, but was unsuccessful. Ken Heard Hi, I achieve the quotation above by using having the en_DK.UTF-8 locale installed (do man locale.gen and man locale-gen for details): /etc/locale.gen: en_AU ISO-8859-1 en_GB ISO-8859-1 en_AU.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_DK.UTF-8 UTF-8 and then in the KDE K menu having the start command: LC_TIME="en_DK.UTF-8" icedove and followed the instructions in the section "Change the reply header" at: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/tips It is still not as flexible as I would like (being able to specify date and time separately in one's own format of choice in a completely arbitrary quote string would be better), but it does give the original message date and time in an ISO standard format that is unambiguous. Regards, Arthur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dates and times in Icedove
Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wackojacko wrote: Michael M. wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 19:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Granted days like 12/04 could be confused for the 12th of April, but really mean the 4th of December. Still, your system should know the real day, and really so should you. Therefore, I am not asking for a fix, rather I am just pointing out the way it is on my system. Here in Oregon, if it's December 4th, it's probably raining. OTOH, if it's April 12th ... ... it's probably raining. I'm not seeing the difference! :-) Icedove has its own locale packages, you may need to install one of these. aptitude search icedove-locale HTH Wackojacko Ah, but if I do that, then the language of my menus and everything else changes. The LC_TIME variable on the other hand just fixes the dates to display like they should, and leaves the rest of the things alone. A perfect solution to my date problem. Florian's advice went straight into my button, and now when I click on IceDove, it looks fine. I would imagine Ken has also implemented this, or he's still evaluating other MUAs. As for the weather in Seattle, I can relate to that. It rains a lot here too. That's good for the flowers that we export. ;) Joe - -- Joe Thanks for the reminder, and for archives sake. I had the same problem and AFAICR it was *not* the icedove-locale package that made it work. Google suggested putting #Locale LC_TIME=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 export LC_TIME in ~.bash_profile and it was this that made the time display correctly. Of course this works across all user apps, which is what I wanted, so YMMV. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dates and times in Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wackojacko wrote: > Michael M. wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 19:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> >>> Granted days like 12/04 could be confused for the 12th of April, but >>> really mean the 4th of December. Still, your system should know the >>> real day, and really so should you. Therefore, I am not asking for a >>> fix, rather I am just pointing out the way it is on my system. >> >> >> Here in Oregon, if it's December 4th, it's probably raining. >> >> OTOH, if it's April 12th ... >> >> ... it's probably raining. >> >> I'm not seeing the difference! :-) >> >> > Icedove has its own locale packages, you may need to install one of these. > > aptitude search icedove-locale > > HTH > > Wackojacko > > Ah, but if I do that, then the language of my menus and everything else changes. The LC_TIME variable on the other hand just fixes the dates to display like they should, and leaves the rest of the things alone. A perfect solution to my date problem. Florian's advice went straight into my button, and now when I click on IceDove, it looks fine. I would imagine Ken has also implemented this, or he's still evaluating other MUAs. As for the weather in Seattle, I can relate to that. It rains a lot here too. That's good for the flowers that we export. ;) Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMIRKiXBCVWpc5J4RAklBAKCCsAJIgORF0B4wy1+r66eGGWuwZQCgvKeq QnGt4SSyu37WM299bUnOYMo= =a4NR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dates and times in Icedove
Michael M. wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 19:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Granted days like 12/04 could be confused for the 12th of April, but really mean the 4th of December. Still, your system should know the real day, and really so should you. Therefore, I am not asking for a fix, rather I am just pointing out the way it is on my system. Here in Oregon, if it's December 4th, it's probably raining. OTOH, if it's April 12th ... ... it's probably raining. I'm not seeing the difference! :-) Icedove has its own locale packages, you may need to install one of these. aptitude search icedove-locale HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dates and times in Icedove
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 19:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Granted days like 12/04 could be confused for the 12th of April, but > really mean the 4th of December. Still, your system should know the > real day, and really so should you. Therefore, I am not asking for a > fix, rather I am just pointing out the way it is on my system. Here in Oregon, if it's December 4th, it's probably raining. OTOH, if it's April 12th ... ... it's probably raining. I'm not seeing the difference! :-) -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dates and times in Icedove
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> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 19:08:35 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
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>> John Hasler wrote:
>>> Ken writes:
>>>> Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide?
>>> man locale
>> locale doesn't seem to have an effect for Icedove. My system date today
>> is 25/04/2007, but Icedove shows it as 4/25/2007, which tells me that
>> because I use a US English version of IceDove, it uses it's own settings.
>
> [...]
>
> Does it make a difference if you start icedove by clicking on an icon or
> from a terminal? If you define your LANG and LC_* in bashrc then these
> settings are not necessarily used for things that don't involve bash.
>
> I use LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 and icedove displays the
> dates nicely in British style ("24/04/07 19:37").
>
> You can also switch every time you call icedove, e.g.
>
> $ LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 icedove
>
> results in "04/24/2007 07:37 PM"
>
> or
>
> $ LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 icedove
>
> results in "24.04.2007 19:37"
>
> etc.
>
Thanks for that tip. I think that may indeed help both Ken and I,
although like I said, it doesn't bug me that much. What I find not so
pleasant about IceDove is that for some reason it likes to reset my view
to unsorted rather than my preference of sort by thread.
It is very inconsistent, sometimes it goes for days doing it correctly,
then all the sudden will revert back to unsorted. It also sometimes has
a problem with telling me how many messages are in a specific local
folder (after I use its filters to place things into them). Strange
behavior that perhaps I should file a bug report about, but haven't
bothered becasuse I use 1.5.10 and I know 2.0 is already available.
I think that's enough of a rant. Again, I appreciate you informing me
of the LC_TIME variable.
Joe
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Re: Dates and times in Icedove
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 19:08:35 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
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> John Hasler wrote:
> > Ken writes:
> >> Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide?
> >
> > man locale
>
> locale doesn't seem to have an effect for Icedove. My system date today
> is 25/04/2007, but Icedove shows it as 4/25/2007, which tells me that
> because I use a US English version of IceDove, it uses it's own settings.
[...]
Does it make a difference if you start icedove by clicking on an icon or
from a terminal? If you define your LANG and LC_* in bashrc then these
settings are not necessarily used for things that don't involve bash.
I use LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 and icedove displays the
dates nicely in British style ("24/04/07 19:37").
You can also switch every time you call icedove, e.g.
$ LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 icedove
results in "04/24/2007 07:37 PM"
or
$ LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 icedove
results in "24.04.2007 19:37"
etc.
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Re: Dates and times in Icedove
Joe Hart wrote, in part: locale doesn't seem to have an effect for Icedove. My system date today is 25/04/2007, but Icedove shows it as 4/25/2007, which tells me that because I use a US English version of IceDove, it uses it's own settings. My experience exactly: that IceDove uses its own settings -- the reason why I posted to the list on the subject. Frankly I am beginning to get a bit tired of IceDove, and will most likely be searching for a new MUA. Mutt is looking more and more attractive, although Kmail is a strong contender. I am beginning to think the same way, especially if I can import all my IceDove files to either Mutt or Kmail. I may even abandon IceWeasel for Konqueror. Ken Heard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Ken writes: >> Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide? > > man locale locale doesn't seem to have an effect for Icedove. My system date today is 25/04/2007, but Icedove shows it as 4/25/2007, which tells me that because I use a US English version of IceDove, it uses it's own settings. Even if I go to Preferences > Advanced > Config Editor and change the location to nl-NL instead of en-US, it does not change the date format. Does it really make a difference as long as you know what day it means? Granted days like 12/04 could be confused for the 12th of April, but really mean the 4th of December. Still, your system should know the real day, and really so should you. Therefore, I am not asking for a fix, rather I am just pointing out the way it is on my system. Frankly I am beginning to get a bit tired of IceDove, and will most likely be searching for a new MUA. Mutt is looking more and more attractive, although Kmail is a strong contender. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGL4sSiXBCVWpc5J4RAjSBAKCeClnuC/ilRGjDm88BnmFFe4Va3gCgtpHH MwQPIk3gT7VWoIcSwaj9DVo= =N3PZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ken writes: > Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide? man locale -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dates and times in Icedove
All the dates of e-mails in Icedove are backwards at least in my boxes, i.e., day-month-year, instead of year-month-day. Likewise, the times are in 12 hour notation, followed by AM or PM. My locale preferences in KDE are set as year-month-day and 24 hour time and date formats. Apparently these settings apply only to KDE applications, not user-wide. Is there a way to set date and formats user-wide, even system-wide? Otherwise, is there an extension to Icedove to set those formats for Icedove? I googled the Mozilla website to find such an extension using time and date as search words, but was unsuccessful. Ken Heard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove: Disable Ctrl-Enter, keyboard shortcuts more generally.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:21:35 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Alexander. > > Alexander McLeay, 23.04.2007 11:55: >> Icedove has a feature where if you press Ctrl-Enter, it offers to send the >> email. If you press Ctrl-Enter, Enter, it sends the email. Is it possible >> to disable this, so pressing Ctrl-Enter does nothing, or at worst enters a >> new line into the message? > > Not sure, but maybe this[0] is of use to you. > [0] http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#keys Hm, it tells me how to change it from being Ctrl-Enter to Alt-Enter (along with everything else) ... seeing as I never use any of the Ctrl-combos that become Alt-combos, it looks like it’s a solution that works, but not in the best way possible. Thanks for your help. (The rest in it is directed towards the old suite, and it’s different enough I can’t convert it properly.) On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:06:04 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > I'm not sure whether it originated with MS or Netscape, but > Ctrl-Enter has been used for many years to Send Email. Its history is irrelevant. I don’t care who started it or how many mail clients do it; I just want it to stop! -- Alexander. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove: Disable Ctrl-Enter, keyboard shortcuts more generally.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/23/07 04:55, Alexander McLeay wrote: > Icedove has a feature where if you press Ctrl-Enter, it offers to send the > email. If you press Ctrl-Enter, Enter, it sends the email. Is it possible > to disable this, so pressing Ctrl-Enter does nothing, or at worst enters a > new line into the message? The dialog box saves me from sloppy fingers if > I inadvertently type Ctrl-Enter, but it doesn’t save me from sloppy > fingers if I inadvertently type Ctrl-Enter, Enter. I'm not sure whether it originated with MS or Netscape, but Ctrl-Enter has been used for many years to Send Email. > (Most gtk programs on my computer allow me to reconfigure keyboard > shortcuts simply by pointing at the menu item and pressing the shortcut I > want to assign to that item, or backspace to delete the current > assignment. I know Icedove doesn’t use gtk, but is it possible to easily > change keyboard shortcuts similarly? or at all?) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGLL1MS9HxQb37XmcRAiKpAJ0aTvEIrL0Y/9t7LClyDdWDPm1KEwCgheW7 IE0Mgeueifdi7QsPQQBvAgc= =yJme -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Alexander. Alexander McLeay, 23.04.2007 11:55: > Icedove has a feature where if you press Ctrl-Enter, it offers to send the > email. If you press Ctrl-Enter, Enter, it sends the email. Is it possible > to disable this, so pressing Ctrl-Enter does nothing, or at worst enters a > new line into the message? Not sure, but maybe this[0] is of use to you. Regards, Mathias [0] http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#keys -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Icedove: Disable Ctrl-Enter, keyboard shortcuts more generally.
Icedove has a feature where if you press Ctrl-Enter, it offers to send the email. If you press Ctrl-Enter, Enter, it sends the email. Is it possible to disable this, so pressing Ctrl-Enter does nothing, or at worst enters a new line into the message? The dialog box saves me from sloppy fingers if I inadvertently type Ctrl-Enter, but it doesn’t save me from sloppy fingers if I inadvertently type Ctrl-Enter, Enter. (Most gtk programs on my computer allow me to reconfigure keyboard shortcuts simply by pointing at the menu item and pressing the shortcut I want to assign to that item, or backspace to delete the current assignment. I know Icedove doesn’t use gtk, but is it possible to easily change keyboard shortcuts similarly? or at all?) Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:23:15 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Do you have tried to rename temporary the "iceweasel" directory and > started it again? Yes, I have, and it didn't work. It was still broken. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
Am 2007-03-27 16:06:47, schrieb Ed G: > Actually, yes, it is different. When running the version from > mozilla.org, Firefox works just fine. No broken session management. Even > building it from source provided at mozilla.org as an unofficial build > with the unofficial, non-trademark encumbered artwork on my AMD-64 machine > worked just fine and didn't have any problems with session management. > It's only the Debian package. I notice the bug on both AMD-64 and x86, > and have reported it, but it has been open, marked unreproducible in the > BTS (even though many have offered followups and details) for over 100 > days. I assume the maintainer is working on getting the version for etch > release-ready and then will work on it, but it makes Iceweasel unusable > for me. Do you have tried to rename temporary the "iceweasel" directory and started it again? It is the NEW version of firefox/icewesel which will screw up with the old config. This was happen to me ans I have to copy file by file back to find the buggy thing! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 12:17 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside > ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way > to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to > be intact though. I haven't followed the whole thread, so forgive me if my assumptions are wrong, but can't you simply create a new profile and import your old mails? They should be in mbox format. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the >> file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. >> According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly >> edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let IceDove >> create a profile. >> > > On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside > ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way > to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to > be intact though. > > hth > raju > Well, good news that email is intact. As for reconstructing the .dat file, I have no idea. Perhaps someone else can step in here, or you can try going upstream (meaning the mozilla thunderbird developers). Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGEqoDiXBCVWpc5J4RAvWKAJ96FJiTwpyfLzfjdA95pFvHmmP9RACcDNIE PdTphG82iF/jqLuJrhVV3w8= =RXvw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joe Hart wrote: > It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the > file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. > According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly > edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let IceDove > create a profile. > On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to be intact though. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not >> the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like >> /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not use a relative >> path and to use specifically that directory. >> > > This is not the problem. For example, if I create a new account it is stored > in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/Local Folders-1 . So it is > able to recognize that I am using .mozilla-thunderbird. However it is not > recognizing my other folders. > > For example, I currently have > > $ls -al ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/ > total 28 > drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:06 ./ > drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:05 ../ > drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:04 > kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu/ > drwxr-xr-x 45 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 Local Folders/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2005-06-08 16:28 News & Blogs/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 News & Blogs-1/ > drwxr-xr-x 8 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 pop.gmail.com/ > > all these are different different accounts. However, None of these showing > up. It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let IceDove create a profile. So, the best thing I would think would be to purge icedove and then install in again, run it once, and cancel the wizard, then exit the program and move your mail (including all of the files listed above) to the directory it created. Once copying is done, start IceDove again and your mail should be there. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGEe/yiXBCVWpc5J4RAiVGAKDNZXJw1rjhMkdOdIWnlPj1zsdgHgCfdBKE mq6D0BW2Mu1tWTfCiRlmWeE= =KNuP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 01:20 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because > of > > > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > > > I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. > > > > > > > Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message: > > > > VIRT RES SHR > > 138m 57m 21m evolution > > > > But then that really isn't including the backend processes for > > evolution. > > > > VIRT RES SHR > > 235m 9.9m 5408 evolution-data-server > > 36160 9296 7764 evolution-exchange-storage > > 67692 9.8m 8364 evolution-alarm-notify > > > > Of course, you can turn off the exchange and alarm notify now. I > just > > haven't. So in reality the RES for ALL processes is 85.9m and the > SHR > > for all is 42.4m, roughly equivalent if you are lazy. > > > > But, I can say the ONLY part my evo is having any problem with is, > > moving messages to and from the "high-count" folders. But that would > > apply to icedove or any other mail-client. > > > > I am using: Evolution 2.8.2.1 from experimental. > > -- > > > the playfield. -- Thane Walkup > > > > Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk based > mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has all the > functionality you'll probably need (except html mail). It stores mail > in the mh and not mbox format so it doesn't mess up like Thunderbird / > Icedove does if you have a mailbox with a lot of messages in it. > Tried Evolution but found it to be too slow and unstable. Yep, slow and unstable, 1/2 a second to search in my high-count folders, complete text search not just "From" or "To" or "Subject" complete message search. Speaking of Maildir format, Evo uses that. Of course, once again I am using IMAP (courier IMAP over TLS) I haven't had any issues for over a year. Even then they were related to GNOME having issues for me. Of course, I am using slow courier IMAPS and Evolution, I am typing this to you 3 days from now and using time-travel to send it to you now. Ha! -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 19:20, Ananda Samaddar wrote: [snip] > Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk > based mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has > all the functionality you'll probably need (except html mail). > It stores mail in the mh and not mbox format so it doesn't mess > up like Thunderbird / Icedove does if you have a mailbox with a > lot of messages in it. Tried Evolution but found it to be too > slow and unstable. I used Sylph back in the pre-1.0 days, and again soon after the GTK 2.0 port. Attachment handling just seems too primitive. (Maybe I've been corrupted by using Outlook at work for so long.) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGEaOuS9HxQb37XmcRAg5aAJ9msaZ4T76tEwBmMVfwTlJrwOJ/aACfU/ec Wnv47o7zmmT1CrUzDJ92gQM= =XYCr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > > I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. > > > > Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message: > > VIRT RES SHR > 138m 57m 21m evolution > > But then that really isn't including the backend processes for > evolution. > > VIRT RES SHR > 235m 9.9m 5408 evolution-data-server > 36160 9296 7764 evolution-exchange-storage > 67692 9.8m 8364 evolution-alarm-notify > > Of course, you can turn off the exchange and alarm notify now. I just > haven't. So in reality the RES for ALL processes is 85.9m and the SHR > for all is 42.4m, roughly equivalent if you are lazy. > > But, I can say the ONLY part my evo is having any problem with is, > moving messages to and from the "high-count" folders. But that would > apply to icedove or any other mail-client. > > I am using: Evolution 2.8.2.1 from experimental. > -- > the playfield. -- Thane Walkup > Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk based mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has all the functionality you'll probably need (except html mail). It stores mail in the mh and not mbox format so it doesn't mess up like Thunderbird / Icedove does if you have a mailbox with a lot of messages in it. Tried Evolution but found it to be too slow and unstable. Ananda Samaddar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: > I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not > the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like > /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not use a relative > path and to use specifically that directory. > This is not the problem. For example, if I create a new account it is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/Local Folders-1 . So it is able to recognize that I am using .mozilla-thunderbird. However it is not recognizing my other folders. For example, I currently have $ls -al ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/ total 28 drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:06 ./ drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:05 ../ drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:04 kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu/ drwxr-xr-x 45 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 Local Folders/ drwxr-xr-x 4 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2005-06-08 16:28 News & Blogs/ drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 News & Blogs-1/ drwxr-xr-x 8 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 pop.gmail.com/ all these are different different accounts. However, None of these showing up. > The problem comes because thunderbird generates a random name for the > directory where the mail sits. The directory structure should look > something like this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/share/Mail$ ls -p > abook.mab install.log prefs.js > cert8.db key3.db reminderfox/ > compatibility.ini Local Folders/ secmod.db > compreg.datlocalstore.rdf signature.txt > cookies.txtMail/ signature.txt~ > downloads.rdf mailViews.dat signons.txt > extensions/mimeTypes.rdf training.dat > extensions.cache News/ virtualFolders.dat > extensions.ini panacea.dat xpti.dat > extensions.rdf persdict.datXUL.mfasl > history.mabpgprules.xmlxul.mfl > I have similar structure. $ls -p .mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/ 95817772.s defaults.ini install.log persdict.dat abook.mab downloads.rdf key3.db prefs.js cert8.db extensions/ localstore.rdf secmod.db chrome/extensions.cache Mail/ training.dat compatibility.ini extensions.inimailViews.dat user.js components.ini extensions.rdfmimeTypes.rdf virtualFolders.dat compreg.dathistory.mab News/ xpti.dat cookies.txtImapMail/ panacea.dat XUL.mfasl raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do >> we need to troubleshoot it further? >> >> Joe >> > > Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. > > However, I still have the same problem : When I start icedove, it brings up > the "account wizard" instead of seeing the already existing accounts. > > raju > I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not use a relative path and to use specifically that directory. The problem comes because thunderbird generates a random name for the directory where the mail sits. The directory structure should look something like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/share/Mail$ ls -p abook.mab install.log prefs.js cert8.db key3.db reminderfox/ compatibility.ini Local Folders/ secmod.db compreg.datlocalstore.rdf signature.txt cookies.txtMail/ signature.txt~ downloads.rdf mailViews.dat signons.txt extensions/mimeTypes.rdf training.dat extensions.cache News/ virtualFolders.dat extensions.ini panacea.dat xpti.dat extensions.rdf persdict.datXUL.mfasl history.mabpgprules.xmlxul.mfl Not all of the files are needed, but most of them are. Of course reminderfox/ is an extension that I use, so wouldn't likely be there for you. Notice there is a Mail folder inside the Mail directory. This is where the messages are really stored. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGEWEXiXBCVWpc5J4RAvaYAJwMthIoVFKXDSpfDYHBb9brGf3ZgwCfXDT1 jSJ+cKqQ6mjkYzYp0fXHG8g= =Pds3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. > Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message: VIRT RES SHR 138m 57m 21m evolution But then that really isn't including the backend processes for evolution. VIRT RES SHR 235m 9.9m 5408 evolution-data-server 36160 9296 7764 evolution-exchange-storage 67692 9.8m 8364 evolution-alarm-notify Of course, you can turn off the exchange and alarm notify now. I just haven't. So in reality the RES for ALL processes is 85.9m and the SHR for all is 42.4m, roughly equivalent if you are lazy. But, I can say the ONLY part my evo is having any problem with is, moving messages to and from the "high-count" folders. But that would apply to icedove or any other mail-client. I am using: Evolution 2.8.2.1 from experimental. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 12:12, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>>> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote: >>>>> LOL. >>>>> >>>>> Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name. >>>>> >>>> No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of >>>> nonconformance by including and accented character in my last name. >>>> This has to do with my recent (in the last few months) discovery of dead >>>> keys. I have always signed it that way, I just never worried about it >>>> too much on the computer. >>> Evolution doesn't have problems with your name... of course, I am not >>> voting for DPL this year. >>> >> Give Mutt a shot, you won't be sorry ;D > > I came from Mutt. I was challenged by a "Windows fanboy" that "Linux" > didn't have a good GUI mail program with a decent interface. > > So I looked and found Evolution. Haven't had the inclination to go back. > Of course except when Evo used to puke on certain types of "zombie > spam". Then I'd ssh into my server and just remove the message with > mutt. Only complaint I've had with Evo. And those were long ago. > > Hmm, just checking, I have 30,291 messages in a mail folder and 33,885 > in another, Evo couldn't be happier. Of course, I have an IMAP backend > and the mail is sorted server-side. How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGEUgsS9HxQb37XmcRAmTrAJ0fwJKAJ7ufErgbUHH1g69AS2LPywCeLsC2 0ix26gWukyNBre0Z8hfRr0k= =VPEY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
KS wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> >>> You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. >>> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing >>> up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might >>> help. >> >> The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files >> are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for >> this difference, everything is as the page suggests. >> > > The reason for that one difference is that your profile location wasn't > changed when thunderbird's settings changed from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird > to ~/.thunderbird as the default location. Debian maintainers might have > decided let the user use the old location than force them to change to > the new one or create new accounts. > > /KS If I want to follow the current thunderbird style, Is it as simple as moving ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird? Or do we need to do anything more? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: > > After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do > we need to troubleshoot it further? > > Joe > Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. However, I still have the same problem : When I start icedove, it brings up the "account wizard" instead of seeing the already existing accounts. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 2) Is there any way to tell icedove to migrate all the old emails to its newer (if any) default location? I've just migrated from Sarge/Thunderbird to Etch/Icedove. Before I started Icedove for the first time I simply copied the ./mozilla-thunderbird folder from "Sarge home" to "Etch home", started Icedove and there they were all mails, everything worked/works without problems. regards, Mitja -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: > KS wrote: >> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >>> Kushal Kumaran wrote: >>> >>>> You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. >>>> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing >>>> up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might >>>> help. >>> The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files >>> are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for >>> this difference, everything is as the page suggests. >>> >> The reason for that one difference is that your profile location wasn't >> changed when thunderbird's settings changed from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird >> to ~/.thunderbird as the default location. Debian maintainers might have >> decided let the user use the old location than force them to change to >> the new one or create new accounts. > >> /KS > > > Why would they do that in the first place. If they (the maintainers) > were going to change it, wouldn't it make more sense to call it > .icedove? That happened with IceWeasel. > > Joe > The change from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird happened much before Debian got Icedove. It was an upstream change. /KS PS: replied to Joe directly by mistake. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] >> $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini >> [General] >> StartWithLastProfile=1 > >> [Profile0] >> Name=default >> IsRelative=1 >> Path=bafaowsk.default >> Default=1 > > >> Looks correct to me except the "Default=1" line. What does it do? > >> raju > > > I may be wrong but wouldn't that just be boolean? > > i.e. "Default=True" I am sure the IsRelative is boolean, but I have never seen it as "true" or "false", it is always 1 or 0. As for the default, no because one can have several mail folders. - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGETjCiXBCVWpc5J4RAjvGAJ9UQDtbGZ0B1PcVo4KYlEsUK5mrGgCgksPc +S2IPXXy987db26+2APby24= =5dX5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KS wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> >>> You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. >>> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing >>> up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might >>> help. >> The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files >> are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for >> this difference, everything is as the page suggests. >> > > The reason for that one difference is that your profile location wasn't > changed when thunderbird's settings changed from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird > to ~/.thunderbird as the default location. Debian maintainers might have > decided let the user use the old location than force them to change to > the new one or create new accounts. > > /KS > > Why would they do that in the first place. If they (the maintainers) were going to change it, wouldn't it make more sense to call it .icedove? That happened with IceWeasel. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGETgliXBCVWpc5J4RAuCDAKDOOiAqMWRLFRViuSg9oMw6I3WRSQCgguHL BPHKJ7V+aSqFI1doZ9K7Bqk= =YzuJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's >> mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on >> yours. > > On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM > $ls -al .mozilla-thunderbird/ > total 36 > drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 12:06 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 183 rajulocal rajulocal 20480 2007-04-02 12:06 ../ > -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 1046 2004-10-06 17:51 appreg > drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 11:08 bafaowsk.default/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 104 2006-03-15 13:08 profiles.ini > > >> When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside >> called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any >> directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. >> >> #Begin file >> [General] >> StartWithLastProfile=1 >> >> [Profile0] >> Name=default >> IsRelative=0 >> Path=/media/share/Mail >> #end file >> >> See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to >> wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. >> > > My profiles.ini file is > > $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini > [General] > StartWithLastProfile=1 > > [Profile0] > Name=default > IsRelative=1 > Path=bafaowsk.default > Default=1 > > > Looks correct to me except the "Default=1" line. What does it do? > > raju > So you found it. Good. Now notice that the IsRelative on your system is 1 and on mine is 0. That is because I specifically give it a directory to use rather than use the one inside the folder that the profiles.ini is stored. That way, 1) it's not in a hidden directory and 2) allows other users to get to the mail (since I share that directory). The reason I set it up this way is becuase when I first started using GNU/Linux, I still used Windows, and it was a pain having two separate email folders. If I checked my mail with Windows, I couldn't see it in Linux and vice versa (mainly the latter). I set up Thunderbird on the windows side to use that folder and I told Thunderbird on the Linux side to use the same folder. Works fine. It took me a while to figure out how to do all that because I was so new to Linux at the time, and there are some confusing web pages that tell one to modify the prefs.js file, which is totally unnecessary. Now I don't use Windows anymore, but never bothered to change my mail around. After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do we need to troubleshoot it further? Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGETbriXBCVWpc5J4RAmgyAJ4pKOlogOTPvYEoS7rVAILtpzxCDACcDfRT iY+3oZj6Isi5BJnVHZMwKPg= =zUnm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Kushal Kumaran wrote: > >> You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. >> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing >> up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might >> help. > > The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files > are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for > this difference, everything is as the page suggests. > The reason for that one difference is that your profile location wasn't changed when thunderbird's settings changed from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird as the default location. Debian maintainers might have decided let the user use the old location than force them to change to the new one or create new accounts. /KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kushal Kumaran wrote: > You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. > http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing > up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might > help. The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for this difference, everything is as the page suggests. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kushal Kumaran wrote: > You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. I was not receiving any error messages. Previously when I start thunderbird, it directly goes to my accounts page and displays all the folders, news groups etc., Now, when I run icedove, it is starting the "account wizard" and asking me to set up a new account. I do not want to set up any new accounts as I already have old accounts set up. When I start icedove with -ProfileManager option, it shows that I have a profile named "default". However, if I select that and choose "Start Icedove", it brings up the "account wizard" again and asks me to set up a new account. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:10:10PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > > > > > This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's > > mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on > > yours. > > On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM > $ls -al .mozilla-thunderbird/ > total 36 > drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 12:06 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 183 rajulocal rajulocal 20480 2007-04-02 12:06 ../ > -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 1046 2004-10-06 17:51 appreg > drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 11:08 bafaowsk.default/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 104 2006-03-15 13:08 profiles.ini > > > > > > When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside > > called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any > > directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. > > > > #Begin file > > [General] > > StartWithLastProfile=1 > > > > [Profile0] > > Name=default > > IsRelative=0 > > Path=/media/share/Mail > > #end file > > > > See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to > > wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. > > > > My profiles.ini file is > > $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini > [General] > StartWithLastProfile=1 > > [Profile0] > Name=default > IsRelative=1 > Path=bafaowsk.default > Default=1 > > > Looks correct to me except the "Default=1" line. What does it do? > > raju > I may be wrong but wouldn't that just be boolean? i.e. "Default=True" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGES7K/o7Q/FCvPe0RAnQyAJ9BfzRyRaHDDQPWFs+DS5Z+P2qoVwCbB/GK Z233EzW3eRYOD4hIJOn+rK8= =oMGA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
On 4/2/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joe Hart wrote: > > This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's > mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on > yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM $ls -al .mozilla-thunderbird/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 12:06 ./ drwxr-xr-x 183 rajulocal rajulocal 20480 2007-04-02 12:06 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 1046 2004-10-06 17:51 appreg drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 11:08 bafaowsk.default/ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 104 2006-03-15 13:08 profiles.ini > > When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside > called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any > directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. > > #Begin file > [General] > StartWithLastProfile=1 > > [Profile0] > Name=default > IsRelative=0 > Path=/media/share/Mail > #end file > > See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to > wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. > My profiles.ini file is $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=bafaowsk.default Default=1 Looks correct to me except the "Default=1" line. What does it do? If you have multiple profiles, the Default=1 is the one that is used if you don't specify otherwise. To do that, set StartWithLastProfile to 0 and it will ask you the profile to use when starting. You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. -- Kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: > > This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's > mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on > yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM $ls -al .mozilla-thunderbird/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 12:06 ./ drwxr-xr-x 183 rajulocal rajulocal 20480 2007-04-02 12:06 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 1046 2004-10-06 17:51 appreg drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 11:08 bafaowsk.default/ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 104 2006-03-15 13:08 profiles.ini > > When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside > called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any > directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. > > #Begin file > [General] > StartWithLastProfile=1 > > [Profile0] > Name=default > IsRelative=0 > Path=/media/share/Mail > #end file > > See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to > wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. > My profiles.ini file is $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=bafaowsk.default Default=1 Looks correct to me except the "Default=1" line. What does it do? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Couple of months back, the hard drive on one of my machines has gone bad. > That machine used to run thunderbird (dont remember which version) and all > my email was stored in /home/username/.mozilla-thunderbird . I copied the > old /home partition (from backups) onto a new machine's /home/username. > However when I run icedove now, it is not recognizing the fact that my > email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. > > The ~/.thunderbird directory is empty. The new machine runs Debian Etch > (testing), icedove 1.5.0.10. I cannot recall the old machine's thunderbird > version, but it was also running Etch. > > 1) What is the default location where icedove stores all its files? I looked > at the man page of icedove, README.Debian.gz but none of them mention this. > > 2) Is there any way to tell icedove to migrate all the old emails to its > newer (if any) default location? > > Any other suggestions/ideas on this issue are also welcome. > > thanks > raju > This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours. When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. #Begin file [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=0 Path=/media/share/Mail #end file See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGESgCiXBCVWpc5J4RAtl4AKCQ/b7Qh3dO+bk8J8m7id9+oHtB7wCglxXU 8ilJ6g5KgycyiqESk/Mx9bE= =akUY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Couple of months back, the hard drive on one of my machines has gone bad. That machine used to run thunderbird (dont remember which version) and all my email was stored in /home/username/.mozilla-thunderbird . I copied the old /home partition (from backups) onto a new machine's /home/username. However when I run icedove now, it is not recognizing the fact that my email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. The ~/.thunderbird directory is empty. The new machine runs Debian Etch (testing), icedove 1.5.0.10. I cannot recall the old machine's thunderbird version, but it was also running Etch. 1) What is the default location where icedove stores all its files? I looked at the man page of icedove, README.Debian.gz but none of them mention this. 2) Is there any way to tell icedove to migrate all the old emails to its newer (if any) default location? Any other suggestions/ideas on this issue are also welcome. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 15:47, Ed G wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:31:20 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> OK. Are "you all" using some sort of session-saver plugin? > > No. I am not using any sort of session-saving plugin on my set up. Hmmm. Any other plugins? > > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDC3JS9HxQb37XmcRAoAtAKCfu+dd0VWDkeDUCLQd9h6ZI5a+BgCg7T46 1UFBbefYA2a96WvMCSMyg6U= =ljzw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:31:20 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > OK. Are "you all" using some sort of session-saver plugin? No. I am not using any sort of session-saving plugin on my set up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/07 15:13, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 14:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/27/07 12:13, Ed G wrote: >>> Bug 401255[1] has all of the details. To answer your question, I am >>> running sid. It's not saving the homepage, history, or bookmarks on exit. >>> >>> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255 >> You must have missed this part, from the bug filer: >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255;msg=21;mbox=yes >> >> This can be closed. The error was likely with some other >> component of Debian, as an etch update resolved this issue >> for me. > > That bug is merged with another, bug 399753, where several others have > reported similar issues. For example, upstream Firefox works fine with > the same configuration. > > See, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399753 OK. Are "you all" using some sort of session-saver plugin? > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGCX8YS9HxQb37XmcRAqA+AKCIPc4ofso+Vntjn4XGcjKKtFed3ACgt5t+ yyh+U+brcU+FT6wo14ce7Iw= =kTOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 14:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/27/07 12:13, Ed G wrote: > > Bug 401255[1] has all of the details. To answer your question, I am > > running sid. It's not saving the homepage, history, or bookmarks on exit. > > > > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255 > > You must have missed this part, from the bug filer: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255;msg=21;mbox=yes > > This can be closed. The error was likely with some other > component of Debian, as an etch update resolved this issue > for me. That bug is merged with another, bug 399753, where several others have reported similar issues. For example, upstream Firefox works fine with the same configuration. See, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399753 -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/07 12:13, Ed G wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:01:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Were you running Sid or Etch? What kind of session management issues? >> >> Lots and lots of us are using IW with no problems. > > Bug 401255[1] has all of the details. To answer your question, I am > running sid. It's not saving the homepage, history, or bookmarks on exit. > > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255 You must have missed this part, from the bug filer: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255;msg=21;mbox=yes This can be closed. The error was likely with some other component of Debian, as an etch update resolved this issue for me. > > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGCW5BS9HxQb37XmcRAoxaAKDJKP+oUHFHhSe06avkBZo7JQvQrACeOeT4 6tGNhYndLmC9/uXxgs1hX90= =WCyD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:01:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Were you running Sid or Etch? What kind of session management issues? > > Lots and lots of us are using IW with no problems. Bug 401255[1] has all of the details. To answer your question, I am running sid. It's not saving the homepage, history, or bookmarks on exit. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/07 11:06, Ed G wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:50:09 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> I don't think that would be very different with firefox ;) > > Actually, yes, it is different. When running the version from > mozilla.org, Firefox works just fine. No broken session management. Even > building it from source provided at mozilla.org as an unofficial build > with the unofficial, non-trademark encumbered artwork on my AMD-64 machine > worked just fine and didn't have any problems with session management. > It's only the Debian package. I notice the bug on both AMD-64 and x86, > and have reported it, but it has been open, marked unreproducible in the > BTS (even though many have offered followups and details) for over 100 > days. I assume the maintainer is working on getting the version for etch > release-ready and then will work on it, but it makes Iceweasel unusable > for me. > > I suppose that's why it's no problem for me anymore - i went back to REAL > Firefox. :-) Were you running Sid or Etch? What kind of session management issues? Lots and lots of us are using IW with no problems. > > > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGCU4ES9HxQb37XmcRAhlqAJ9Dm+5R5OsmCCDbpvf0d/HLXLSAXQCfVQZ9 462uTmMFo+Ikd+tCS7Aowro= =KNgj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:50:09 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > I don't think that would be very different with firefox ;) Actually, yes, it is different. When running the version from mozilla.org, Firefox works just fine. No broken session management. Even building it from source provided at mozilla.org as an unofficial build with the unofficial, non-trademark encumbered artwork on my AMD-64 machine worked just fine and didn't have any problems with session management. It's only the Debian package. I notice the bug on both AMD-64 and x86, and have reported it, but it has been open, marked unreproducible in the BTS (even though many have offered followups and details) for over 100 days. I assume the maintainer is working on getting the version for etch release-ready and then will work on it, but it makes Iceweasel unusable for me. I suppose that's why it's no problem for me anymore - i went back to REAL Firefox. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:36:11 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > but for usability it's irelevant... On 26.03.07 22:29, Ed G wrote: > Unlike for iceweasel, which was completely useless to me (with broken > session management) for many weeks. I don't think that would be very different with firefox ;) -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Microsoft dick is soft to do no harm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:36:11 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > but for usability it's irelevant... Unlike for iceweasel, which was completely useless to me (with broken session management) for many weeks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
Dear d-u: On Saturday 24 March 2007 23:35, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the > artwork, is different. I just upgraded to version 1.5.0.10 (20070307), and the new artwork is great! -- Best wishes, Max Hyre signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
> >icedove is debianised version of Mozilla Thunderbird (the same software, > >but > >different name due to licensing issues). so I'd say MANY people use it. On 24.03.07 19:35, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the > artwork, is different. but for usability it's irelevant... > The actual *code*, however, is essentially the same. and this is the main point. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Remember half the people you know are below average. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On 3/25/07, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just learned of Icedove today. > Is anybody here using it? > What do you think of it? Personally, I just use seamonkey??.tar.gz from mozilla.org, as seamonkey's extension functions is not very mature now and many of exensions need to put something into app directory. To avoid confusion, use ~/seamonkey/seamonkey -P seamonkey to run it after extracting seamonkey-???.linux-i686.tar.gz to $HOME(tar xvf).
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just learned of Icedove today. Is anybody here using it? What do you think of it? A couple of years ago I had to give up on nmh as my mail system, because it didn't work with imap, and I was sick of constantly having to fetch mail off the server with a very clunky way of getting new mail notifications. I decided at that point to go to a graphical client, since giving up the independent processes accessing the same mailbox (multiple instances of "show", "scan", "comp", etc running in different xterms) I wanted to still be able to look at multiple messages concurrently and while composing a new message. Of the clients I looked at, Thunderbird (Icedove in debian) sucked the least. I've looked at claws a couple of times. The first time, it was missing some feature I considered critical, though I don't recall what. More recently, I gave it another try, and it didn't seem to understand the concept of subscribed folders in imap, making the displayed list a real mess. YMMV, but that's just MHO. TTFN. More information on Thunderbird can be found on the Internet. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings; I just learned of Icedove today. Is anybody here using it? What do you think of it? Where caqn I find some more info on it? Thanks for any info! Dennis I am using it on my Debian Testing machine. I just love it. After adding the Lightning extension, I also have my schedule appointments included in Icedove. At my univ. we have Ubuntu and there I use Thunderbird. Except the name change and some other stuff (icons, artswork, etc.), they are the same. ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 03:06:38PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings; > > I just learned of Icedove today. > > Is anybody here using it? > > What do you think of it? > I don't use Icedove personally, but I can say from experience that I don't personally like Icedove. I'm not sure on how in-depth the settings get, but when I did use it I found that my lines didn't auto-wrap (Probably a setting I overlooked) and manipulating quotes was a lot harder than it was in Vim. Unless you really love your mouse or graphical user interface, you should probably give Mutt a try. And even if you're using a GUI, I found that Sylpheed was better than Icedove in every respect. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Saturday 24 March 2007 23:35, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > icedove is debianised version of Mozilla Thunderbird (the same software, > > but > > different name due to licensing issues). so I'd say MANY people use it. > > Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the > artwork, is different. The artwork is, actually, so important that were the Thunderbird artwork free IceDove would not exist. > The actual *code*, however, is essentially the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings; I just learned of Icedove today. Is anybody here using it? What do you think of it? Where caqn I find some more info on it? Thanks for any info! Dennis Slightly off topic, but I use and like Sylpheed. Sylpheed is a very fast and lightweight email program written in GTK. It has nice features, a nice interface, and is easy to integrate with bogofilter. There is a related program, called Claws mail, that was based on Sylpheed and is supposed to be more up to date. I am considering switching to Claws. Check the article about Claws on Wikipedia. Regarding bogofilter: it is a nice Bayesian spam filter written in C. It is fast, has a small probability of false negatives, and a very small possibility of false positives. This last point (the very small possibility of false positives) is a nice one: it means that with bogofilter, you don't have to worry about checking your spam folder, unlike with other spam filters. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
icedove is debianised version of Mozilla Thunderbird (the same software, but different name due to licensing issues). so I'd say MANY people use it. Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the artwork, is different. The actual *code*, however, is essentially the same. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On 24.03.07 15:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just learned of Icedove today. > > Is anybody here using it? > > What do you think of it? > > Where caqn I find some more info on it? icedove is debianised version of Mozilla Thunderbird (the same software, but different name due to licensing issues). so I'd say MANY people use it. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any feedback on Icedove?
Greetings; I just learned of Icedove today. Is anybody here using it? What do you think of it? Where caqn I find some more info on it? Thanks for any info! Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove
Steve Lamb wrote: Daniel B. wrote: ... (When you logically tentatively delete a message from the Inbox folder and Seamonkey logically moves it to the Trash folder, there's still a physical copy of the data in the file that implements the Inbox folder. That physical copy is never available to the user through the tool.) Not so. If that's not so, then tell me how Seamonkey makes those messages available to the user. > Was there not mention of extensions that do in fact display they logically marked messages? An extension is a different tool. (Or Seamonkey with an extension is a different tool.) > If not, are you positive such a tool could not be written? Why do you ask if I've positive? I never said such a tool could not be written? > Furthermore when was "through the *current* tool" the litmus test on what the current tool should or should not do? What the heck are you talking about? I wasn't talking about whether the tool should continue doing only what it does now (not providing access to deleting messages in a folder or should do more (e.g., providing access). I was talking about what view of the data the tool provides to the user. Currently, the tool does not provide any view of that type of deleted message except that you have to compact folders once in a while to reclaim the space. > Just because my MTA logs are not accessible through the MTA means they should not be created in the first place? Rotated... ever? Heaven forbid I use less to search my MTA logs and cron to rotate them. How is that related to the discussion about Seamonkey and its mail files? An MTA's documented interface to the administrator includes its log files. Does Seamonkey document its mail file format and expected (end) users to do anything with them using any tool except Seamonkey itself (not counting external-only operations like backing up or moving whole files)? Surely you're not ignorant of that reality. Of course I'm not, but what does that have to do with Seamonkey? I ask the same of you. Do you honestly believe user preference extends only to a single, default installed application? Huh? (User preference about what? Or, which user preferences? (What are you asking? Your question is a bit ambiguous.)) Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > > > I'm not sure that Icedove works right when it comes to checking, > receiving and telling you about new mail. > > For example, I have a filter sending all d-u mail to a folder. When new > mail comes, quite frequently it doesn't mark that folder as having new > mail, when in fact it does. > > It also reverts to showing things in unthreaded view mode from time to > time. Why it does these things I do not know, and no, I have not > submitted a bug report. They are only slightly annoying issues, not > really bugs. > All right. I will adopt the "Ostrich" algorithm and disable the new mail beeping for now. Thanks for all your replies. - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA/URCIqXQV6BF28RAupFAJ9Hcm2l3Rbj81YhKGr79cZIyduuLACdHEvS U4XwZtrIa3KZncLarXxBHiA= =EGXA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Marsh wrote: > On 3/23/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Some spam makes it past Gmail's spam filter. Look in the spam folder in >> the web interface to see how much doesn't. You should anyway do that >> regularly because Gmail gets some false positives. > > Gmail also counts spam towards your quota, and I've noticed it's > remiss in deleting spam over 30 days old, as it claims. > > Back to the original topic, I've noticed apparently random beeping > from icedove as well. I use gmail through the web interface, so > that's not the cause in my case. I have a POP account, though, and it > might be something at the POP server that isn't related to new mail > arriving, but looks like a mailbox change. I'm not really sure what > kind of per-message or per-mailbox state POP keeps, nor what's > considered beep-worthy by icedove. > > I *do* know that changes to an IMAP folder that are just being seen > for the first time by a particular icedove instance cause a beep and > something akin to a "new messages" flag. I know it's not actually > showing new messages, since I have icedove configured to make folders > with unread messages appear in red, and the color doesn't change, just > the folder icon. > I'm not sure that Icedove works right when it comes to checking, receiving and telling you about new mail. For example, I have a filter sending all d-u mail to a folder. When new mail comes, quite frequently it doesn't mark that folder as having new mail, when in fact it does. It also reverts to showing things in unthreaded view mode from time to time. Why it does these things I do not know, and no, I have not submitted a bug report. They are only slightly annoying issues, not really bugs. Joe Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGA/J0iXBCVWpc5J4RAn39AKDOgMc8WsMlYllUN8Zht29C8LgRRwCggNwm uC5DTisBVVHpckOwVUvO8Q0= =nEzB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > > Some spam makes it past Gmail's spam filter. Look in the spam folder in > the web interface to see how much doesn't. You should anyway do that > regularly because Gmail gets some false positives. > > Celejar > > You are right. It is me that forget my settings. I have two gmail accounts, say A and B. I pop mails from A to icedove. Also, I forward mails from A to B to read with B's Web interface. Those spam mails are not marked as spams on A so poped to the icedove client. But on B, they are in the spam folder. And the spam folder on A is empty (I do not know why). Anyway, icedove should not "beep" when auto-check is disabled for all accounts. - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA+2iCIqXQV6BF28RAj/JAKCNpX0hlbQ0y+++wqsHDgzC+Bi6eQCgk3fV T7lvku6ggbcEK6AkWmFIIkI= =iNFM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
On 3/23/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some spam makes it past Gmail's spam filter. Look in the spam folder in the web interface to see how much doesn't. You should anyway do that regularly because Gmail gets some false positives. Gmail also counts spam towards your quota, and I've noticed it's remiss in deleting spam over 30 days old, as it claims. Back to the original topic, I've noticed apparently random beeping from icedove as well. I use gmail through the web interface, so that's not the cause in my case. I have a POP account, though, and it might be something at the POP server that isn't related to new mail arriving, but looks like a mailbox change. I'm not really sure what kind of per-message or per-mailbox state POP keeps, nor what's considered beep-worthy by icedove. I *do* know that changes to an IMAP folder that are just being seen for the first time by a particular icedove instance cause a beep and something akin to a "new messages" flag. I know it's not actually showing new messages, since I have icedove configured to make folders with unread messages appear in red, and the color doesn't change, just the folder icon. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
> This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam > messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP > access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. > > Celejar I don't pop my gmail account, so I don't know for sure, but I do think I remember a setting on the pop forward page letting you configure exactly what to allow you to fetch. Thanks for confirming my thoughts Celejar. I can confirm, that gmail filters spam and other forwarding on mail arrival, not on access, so all the spam goes to spam box, and in no way is accessible trough POP or filters. Some time ago i had some issues in company mailboxes, where ~40 users had to mark some automatic mails as not-spam, because they couldn't access them otherwise. Regards, Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:36:52 +0800 Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Celejar wrote: > > > > > This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam > > messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP > > access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. > > > > Celejar > > > > > That is strange. I got those "of host" and "be hovel" ones into icedove > box for example. Maybe this is due to a setting that I am not sure. Some spam makes it past Gmail's spam filter. Look in the spam folder in the web interface to see how much doesn't. You should anyway do that regularly because Gmail gets some false positives. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:48:02 +0800 > Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Joe Hart wrote: >> >>> Could that be because gmail is moving mail that it thinks is spam into >>> your spam folder that you don't download? You might really have new >>> mail, but since google thinks that it is spam, it doesn't send it. >>> >>> Joe >> It seems that gmail puts spams into corresponding folder only if using >> the Web interface. With POP3, all mails including spams are downloaded. > > This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam > messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP > access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. > > Celejar > > I don't pop my gmail account, so I don't know for sure, but I do think I remember a setting on the pop forward page letting you configure exactly what to allow you to fetch. Thanks for confirming my thoughts Celejar. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGA+cHiXBCVWpc5J4RAscaAJ9jhO60ntY9RekWc3v+gozWi10rEgCfTIWz HiBfWgNpdTcjefNdIL125Sg= =CWHq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > > This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam > messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP > access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. > > Celejar > > That is strange. I got those "of host" and "be hovel" ones into icedove box for example. Maybe this is due to a setting that I am not sure. BTW, it still keeps beeping even if I disable auto-check and auto-download for all accounts. - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA+YECIqXQV6BF28RAklBAKDHXVBGecrXVnlbr494BlH43UWxWACdERAN c5Qx8cnxKSl6+l4YRjUbIG8= =KP1p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IceDove lost startup flags?
Debian Sarge, with IceDove version 1.5.0.8 (20061208) via backports.org. With the Lightning extension, IceDove/Thunderbird should be able to use the -calendar flag to start in calendar mode (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/faq.html#shortcut). Also, according to icedove --help, these flags should work. -jsconsole Open the JavaScript console. -addressbook Open the address book at startup. -compose Compose a mail or news message. -mailOpen the mail folder view. -options Open the options dialog. -newsOpen the news client. However, when I attempt to start icedove with some of these flags, they do not work. I get an error message "Warning: unrecognized command line flag -mail" -mail -calendar -jconsole do not work. -addressbook -compose -news -options do work. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, -mail never worked, because mail view is the default, -calendar doesn't work beccause it is a Tbird extension, and -jconsole doesn't work... I can't think of a reason for that, actually. Am I crazy, or is this a bug, or what? If it is a bug, is it an IceDove bug, or a Lightning extension bug? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
Celejar wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:48:02 +0800 Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: Could that be because gmail is moving mail that it thinks is spam into your spam folder that you don't download? You might really have new mail, but since google thinks that it is spam, it doesn't send it. Joe It seems that gmail puts spams into corresponding folder only if using the Web interface. With POP3, all mails including spams are downloaded. This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. Celejar Second that. -- Matthew Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:48:02 +0800 Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joe Hart wrote: > > > Could that be because gmail is moving mail that it thinks is spam into > > your spam folder that you don't download? You might really have new > > mail, but since google thinks that it is spam, it doesn't send it. > > > > Joe > > It seems that gmail puts spams into corresponding folder only if using > the Web interface. With POP3, all mails including spams are downloaded. This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > Could that be because gmail is moving mail that it thinks is spam into > your spam folder that you don't download? You might really have new > mail, but since google thinks that it is spam, it doesn't send it. > > Joe It seems that gmail puts spams into corresponding folder only if using the Web interface. With POP3, all mails including spams are downloaded. BTW, new mail sound was disabled and Icedove has kept quiet for some time. Next step I will disable auto-fetch for all accounts but one to test. I hope the problem can be found when all accounts are tested. - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA8yCCIqXQV6BF28RAoVeAKCGN61poPWGkj41590sKPBiRXTx5QCfcxOc eKo98ru2X85XmUELdxOZazU= =OB9L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > > > I don't know about what makes it else makes it beep, but I do know you > can change what is does when you receive new mail. Edit -> Preferences > -> General - When new messages arrive: Checkboxes and Advanced button. > > If you change it to play a .wav file or something when you get new mail, > then you sould be able to isolate what else is making it beep. > > Joe > Sorry I do not have a speaker here with my desktop. What I can hear from the computer is only the "beep" ... Maybe I can try to disable the beep when receiving mail to have a test. Thanks. - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA8ZXCIqXQV6BF28RAubQAKCzAb7D7aUGieYJ4D9xINiTtbooMwCg0F00 MnEudQgvhNUc5UHwCF1OlvY= =9T4C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > > I notice you're using Gmail. Sometimes when I fetch mail it says I > have 2 new messages, and I actually have 1. I think Gmail does > something that makes the MUA think there is a new message, but there > isn't a new email. > > Try another mail host for a day or two and see if it happens, just to > make sure. > > Thanks. Your suggestion leaded me to the account settings. I found that there seemed to be a problem in one account. It automatically _checked_ new mail but didn't _download_ it. I thought maybe it was this that made me confused. I corrected this then also disabled the automatic fetch of Gmail. Then, when I was going to compose a mail to tell you what I had done, it beeps again... - -- Cheers, Wei Chen http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA8RuCIqXQV6BF28RAl5HAKDccUQdIUdt3ljafsz9VO2ta4KcbgCcD6KV 4/IOtEVosu8RV/aDJrcs+Ks= =eGO7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beep question of Icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 07:36:53PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, >> >> I know that Icedove will "beep" when a new mail is received. >> But sometimes it also beeps when there is no new mail or >> anything else. Is there any other case in which Icedove beeps? >> Thanks. >> > > I notice you're using Gmail. Sometimes when I fetch mail it says I > have 2 new messages, and I actually have 1. I think Gmail does > something that makes the MUA think there is a new message, but there > isn't a new email. > > Try another mail host for a day or two and see if it happens, just to > make sure. Could that be because gmail is moving mail that it thinks is spam into your spam folder that you don't download? You might really have new mail, but since google thinks that it is spam, it doesn't send it. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGA8DmiXBCVWpc5J4RAh/PAJ9Ka1Ls1QzKSECvtaFMDnLEASV2PgCfawUC 1ySEz5YTuZuhR6Y9NGxq2HA= =wrd8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
