Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:48:41AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2010 22:11:00 Rob Owens wrote: My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that certain modules necessary to the live system get included. I confess that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told by the developer. You should look into the live-helper configuration and adjust where it gets the kernel source and any (extra?) patches it applies. It should be able to work with kernel sources provided from lenny-backports with the proper configuration, since it already works with both Lenny and Squeeze kernel sources. The bpo kernels are not packaged significantly differently. If live-helper doesn't have any relevant configuration, looking into how it receives, patches, compiles, and packages the kernel should give you some insight into a work-around. (e.g. repackaging the bpo kernel package to have the same package name but a higher version than the Lenny kernel package.) Thanks. I think this is the approach I'm going to take. I just tried install barebones Squeeze in Virtualbox, and I'm running into packaging problems when I try to install certain software from Lenny (LXDE and apt-show-versions, for example). -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100430175523.ga4...@aurora.owens.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:17:57PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Rob Owens wrote: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). What you need is Debian Backports www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions You will find your kernel upgrade there, plus you will need to add linux-firmware for the new kernel, both the kernel and firmware are in the backports. I can't use backports, according to the developer of debian-live. That was the first thing I tried, but it didn't work. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100429134650.gb10...@aurora.owens.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 20:35:29 Rob Owens wrote: If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). This type of setup is neither tested nor supported. Since a number of library transitions have already gone into Squeeze, I would expect issues, though I don't know what. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 22:11:00 Rob Owens wrote: My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that certain modules necessary to the live system get included. I confess that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told by the developer. You should look into the live-helper configuration and adjust where it gets the kernel source and any (extra?) patches it applies. It should be able to work with kernel sources provided from lenny-backports with the proper configuration, since it already works with both Lenny and Squeeze kernel sources. The bpo kernels are not packaged significantly differently. If live-helper doesn't have any relevant configuration, looking into how it receives, patches, compiles, and packages the kernel should give you some insight into a work-around. (e.g. repackaging the bpo kernel package to have the same package name but a higher version than the Lenny kernel package.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2010 20:35:29 Rob Owens wrote: If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). This type of setup is neither tested nor supported. Since a number of library transitions have already gone into Squeeze, I would expect issues, though I don't know what. I'm using the Squeeze+KDE4 version of Debian Live installed and it seems to be Lenny upgraded to Squeeze, it's definitely broken because the weather widgets will not config, I've seen the problem before on every Lenny upgrade and it's the only problem I can find, on that system I've been able to upgrade the kernel with no problem. I would not recommend Debian Live to anyone looking for a usable system. -- Jimmy Johnson SimplyMEPIS 8.5 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bda3506.8010...@gmail.com
installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). Reason: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100429013529.gc8...@aurora.owens.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote: If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). Reason: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). -Rob Can you use one of these ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004281806.53285.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote: If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). Reason: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). -Rob Can you use one of these ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ -- Greg Madden Precision Air Balance, Inc. Phone: (907)276-0461 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004281802.18988.p...@gci.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 06:02:18PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote: If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf, can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment from the Lenny repos? (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely). Reason: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). -Rob Can you use one of these ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, I don't think I can use those. My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that certain modules necessary to the live system get included. I confess that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told by the developer. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to do a traditional install of Debian onto a USB flash drive. I'm trying to install a live system, which is different because it is designed to be run on many different computers (like a Knoppix CD, but it's a straight Debian system). -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100429031100.gb8...@aurora.owens.net
Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze
Rob Owens wrote: I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the infrequent updates. But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel in order for wifi to work. I've been told by the Debian-Live developer that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd be able to use a kernel from backports.org). What you need is Debian Backports www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions You will find your kernel upgrade there, plus you will need to add linux-firmware for the new kernel, both the kernel and firmware are in the backports. -- Jimmy Johnson SimplyMEPIS 8.5 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bd8fa65.1010...@gmail.com
