Re: its been done again. No network
Hello, On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:46:53AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by > > asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for > > anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with > > Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does > > not apply to Debian. > > > But Andy, it should, its the ONLY sensible solution to a problem most > distributions have when they encounter a home location without a dhcp > server. I don't know what that means. The fact is that the Debian installer does not set things up in the way you experience with Raspbian, so you are repeatedly wasting everyone's time and polluting the archives by asking questions about it here. Most of the time that you do this you don't even make clear that you're talking about something that isn't Debian, that is configured differently to Debian and therefore behaves differently to Debian. It's good that you eventually "solve" this by remembering the last time that someone explained to you that Raspbian is configured differently, but by that time you have just inserted more irrelevant information into these archives and had a bunch of bystanders who don't realise the situation chasing around for solutions for you. > Debian, FWIW is just as guilty as anybody else but uses a different path > to get there, if there is not a dhcp server available, they too use avahi > to plug in a totally useless, non-existant address in the 169.254 ipv4 > block. And that does NOT get thru a router if one is in use. If there is some problem with Debian I'm sure we could discuss it and document solutions to it, which is what this list is for. So let's do that - when you have a concrete real-world problem that you can poke at with the list's assistance, not some problem with something that isn't Debian. Especially when we've done this exact thing a few times already. Regards, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: its been done again. No network
On Friday, 25 March 2022 02:02:26 EDT to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 04:33:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > No, this link came from a cnc'er, and leads to a google drive > > download. With linuxcnc-2.8.2 already installed. > > For all you know, it is running a cryptominer at night, while you > aren't looking ;-P While that might be a possibility, Tomas, some of the results from the latency-tests would certainly point to more digging to see why it was as bad as it wasn't. Latency-test is a pretty brutal test, and an armhf is clean if it does 12 microseconds. Really good wintel stuff running intel versions of the kernel on a 4ghz machine can't do any better than 3 u- seconds. AMD stuff is generally a few u-secs worse. I was amazed to see 4.5 u-secs out of an arm64 install. The biggest worry is that the kernel might not be post dirty pipe enough to be fixed. It was 5.10.28 IIRC but its not running ATM as I left it running the armhf version so I could save about 5 years worth of its LCNC g-code history to this machine, then boot the new version and copy it back. That lathe has learned quite a few new dance steps since it left Chicago 80 years ago. Stuff it could not do then in its wildest dreams. It came with fixed ratio gears you could change from a limited recipe if imperial gears. Those gears are in one of its drawers now since linuxcnc can Mathematicallly do any gear ratio you want, metric or imperial. Need for some reason, a 57.3 tpi tapered thread? It's just programming a G76 move.The gears are all math, no teeth. And little noise. At steel cutting speeds, this machine moves like casper the ghost. > [SCNR] Grins and snarky remarks are ok, but now you are in my territory. ;o > Cheers > -- > t Take care, and stay well Tomas. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 04:33:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > No, this link came from a cnc'er, and leads to a google drive download. > With linuxcnc-2.8.2 already installed. For all you know, it is running a cryptominer at night, while you aren't looking ;-P [SCNR] Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 07:18:43 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell > > early in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. > > I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. > > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give > you something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry Pi > folks are really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type > problems. > Link plz Andy? I was given the address to get this arm64.img thats a complete desktop system with a realtime preept kernel already installed. But its complete and ready to rock and roll except for the network. I cannot say that about anything debian has offered for the pi's to date, and I dl'd & tried them all in the last 6 weeks. I'd repost the link to it, but finding it in the new kde5 version of kmail is quite impossible. > Take care > > Andy Cater > > > I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, > > and > > canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a > > dozen times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it > > is still there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on > > that address block. > > > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route > > and bring it up to date? > > > > Thanks all. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > > -- > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law > > respectable.> > > - Louis D. Brandeis > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: LinuxCNC on-non-Debian systems is probably unsupportable here [WAS: Re: its been done again. No network].
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:09:11 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 04:33:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, 24 March 2022 11:27:07 EDT Curt wrote: > > > On 2022-03-24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > >> Greetings all; > > > >> > > > >> Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can > > > >> tell > > > >> early in the game, everything seem to be working except the > > > >> network. I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip > > > >> a > > > >> or ip r. > > > > > > > > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then > > > > give > > > > you something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. > > > > Raspberry > > > > Pi folks are really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > Andy Cater > > > > > > That's these images here, I guess, of which you are speaking: > > > > > > https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ > > > > No, this link came from a cnc'er, and leads to a google drive > > download. With linuxcnc-2.8.2 already installed. > > > > > . > > Hi Gene, > > Random distribution with random provenance from an unknown origin,then: > > Can I commend to you: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian > > As noted to you elsewhere, LinuxCNC is being maintained in Debian now - > it's just not hit Debian stable yet. And my friend, whom I'd promised a couple 64G u-sd cards to, about 5 months back before I lost both 2T seagate drives to the exact same failure mode, they simply went off line in the middle of the night about 2 months apart and became invisible, 2 u-sd cards to boot his rpi4 and run his big Cinci milling machine with, needed these cards 3,000 miles west of me, last Saturday. With those drive failures I lost 24 years of my history, which included how I did it for one of my machines a little over 2 years ago. So now I'm trying to duplicate what I first did using the raspi version of wheezy on an rpi3b. And I still don't have this bullseye system doing more than half what the stretch system was doing on pretty much the same hardware. The main diff is that /home, which was about a terrabyte on one of those dead 2T seagates, is now a 1.7T raid10 on SSD's. The other 2T that died, was my vtapes for amanda. Bingo, no backups. And I catch it on this list for getting upset with seacrate for putting a tech that wasn't ready for prime time on the market anyway? > https://linuxcnc.org/2022/03/03/LinuxCNC-in-Debian/ > > All the very best, as ever, > > Andy Cater Take care and stay well Andy. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
LinuxCNC on-non-Debian systems is probably unsupportable here [WAS: Re: its been done again. No network].
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 04:33:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2022 11:27:07 EDT Curt wrote: > > On 2022-03-24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > >> Greetings all; > > >> > > >> Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell > > >> early in the game, everything seem to be working except the > > >> network. I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a > > >> or ip r. > > > > > > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give > > > you something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry > > > Pi folks are really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type > > > problems. > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > Andy Cater > > > > That's these images here, I guess, of which you are speaking: > > > > https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ > No, this link came from a cnc'er, and leads to a google drive download. > With linuxcnc-2.8.2 already installed. > > . > Hi Gene, Random distribution with random provenance from an unknown origin,then: Can I commend to you: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian As noted to you elsewhere, LinuxCNC is being maintained in Debian now - it's just not hit Debian stable yet. https://linuxcnc.org/2022/03/03/LinuxCNC-in-Debian/ All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > > >
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:57:33 EDT Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-03-24 16:15 (UTC-0400): > > On Thursday, 24 March 2022 13:11:20 EDT Felix Miata wrote: > >> Andy Smith composed on 2022-03-24 12:51 (UTC-): > >> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): > ... > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default > > > route and bring it up to date? > > https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP > installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5. > >>> > >>> Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by > >>> asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for > >>> anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with > >>> Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does > >>> not apply to Debian. > >> > >> The systemd-networkd option is available in all distros running > >> systemd. > > > > But I'm serious Felix, when I ask how the heck is an update that > > changes to all that from a single file in /etc/network/interfaces.d, > > doing away with that file, but the person is supposed to actually > > discover that, and then make sense out of reading it? The potential > > for double-speak has been well explored in such a man page once you > > find it. Thanks for the link name. > > On that page there isn't very much before you get to "beyond the > basics". With static IP, that's as far as anyone need read, assuming > having managed to determine how to disengage the in place network > setup. > That is 200% the problem, its so deeply buried you cannot find it, and asking how on a mailing list is like searching for a gold ring in a tijuana pan shop. Sometimes its 3 or 4 days of fine tuning my questions before a meaningfull answer comes out of someones fingers. > I don't know that I understand what you're asking. What is "all that"? > /etc/systemd/network/* takes the place of /etc/network* when taking > advantage of the already in place init system+'s ability to bring up > and maintain an interface. Something has to turn on whatever > networking system is configured. systemd-networkd.service is systemd's > network setup enabler. "All that" seems to be no more than > /etc/systemd/network/.network with 6-7 lines, plus enabling > systemd-networkd.service. But that info is NOT plainly stated in those man pages. It may be there, but its buried in drivel that does not often offer an example. Take care and stay well Felix. > Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, > based on faith, not based on science. > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
gene heskett composed on 2022-03-24 16:15 (UTC-0400): > On Thursday, 24 March 2022 13:11:20 EDT Felix Miata wrote: >> Andy Smith composed on 2022-03-24 12:51 (UTC-): >> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): ... So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default > route and bring it up to date? https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5. >>> Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by >>> asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for >>> anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with >>> Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does >>> not apply to Debian. >> The systemd-networkd option is available in all distros running >> systemd. > But I'm serious Felix, when I ask how the heck is an update that changes > to all that from a single file in /etc/network/interfaces.d, doing away > with that file, but the person is supposed to actually discover that, and > then make sense out of reading it? The potential for double-speak has > been well explored in such a man page once you find it. Thanks for the > link name. On that page there isn't very much before you get to "beyond the basics". With static IP, that's as far as anyone need read, assuming having managed to determine how to disengage the in place network setup. I don't know that I understand what you're asking. What is "all that"? /etc/systemd/network/* takes the place of /etc/network* when taking advantage of the already in place init system+'s ability to bring up and maintain an interface. Something has to turn on whatever networking system is configured. systemd-networkd.service is systemd's network setup enabler. "All that" seems to be no more than /etc/systemd/network/.network with 6-7 lines, plus enabling systemd-networkd.service. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 11:27:07 EDT Curt wrote: > On 2022-03-24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> Greetings all; > >> > >> Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell > >> early in the game, everything seem to be working except the > >> network. I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a > >> or ip r. > > > > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give > > you something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry > > Pi folks are really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type > > problems. > > > > Take care > > > > Andy Cater > > That's these images here, I guess, of which you are speaking: > > https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ No, this link came from a cnc'er, and leads to a google drive download. With linuxcnc-2.8.2 already installed. > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 13:11:20 EDT Felix Miata wrote: > Andy Smith composed on 2022-03-24 12:51 (UTC-): > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >> gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): > >> ... > >> > >> > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default > >> > route and bring it up to date? > >> > >> https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP > >> installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5. > > > > Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by > > asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for > > anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with > > Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does > > not apply to Debian. > > The systemd-networkd option is available in all distros running > systemd. But I'm serious Felix, when I ask how the heck is an update that changes to all that from a single file in /etc/network/interfaces.d, doing away with that file, but the person is supposed to actually discover that, and then make sense out of reading it? The potential for double-speak has been well explored in such a man page once you find it. Thanks for the link name. Take care Felix. > -- > Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, > based on faith, not based on science. > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
Andy Smith composed on 2022-03-24 12:51 (UTC-): > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): >> ... >> > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and >> > bring it up to date? >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP installations, >> which number several hundred, minus about 5. > Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by > asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for > anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with > Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does > not apply to Debian. The systemd-networkd option is available in all distros running systemd. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Re: its been done again. No network
On 2022-03-24 16:27 UTC+0100, Curt wrote: > On 2022-03-24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give you >> something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry Pi folks are >> really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type problems. >> >> Take care >> >> Andy Cater >> > > That's these images here, I guess, of which you are speaking: > > https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ I can really recommend them. I switched to them from Raspbian about 2 weeks ago, and the image runs really nice on my RasPi 4 B. There is a slight difference in the temperature which is reported by lm-sensors, otherwise no problems yet. I switched because Raspian (Raspberry Pi OS, how it is called now) did not deliver security fixes for their custom kernel in time. And I prefer running pure Debian whenever possible. Regards, Christian -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de
Re: its been done again. No network
On Thursday, 24 March 2022 08:51:39 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): > > ... > > > > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route > > > and bring it up to date? > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP > > installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5. > > Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by > asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for > anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with > Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does > not apply to Debian. > But Andy, it should, its the ONLY sensible solution to a problem most distributions have when they encounter a home location without a dhcp server. My home network name to address resolution method using a hosts file, is at least a hundred milliseconds faster than anything involving a dns server. And its concept is also simple, scan the hosts file first, if that does NOT find it, forward it to the gateway, and my gateway/router forwards it to whereever shentel.net has a dns server. And it Just Works. Debian, FWIW is just as guilty as anybody else but uses a different path to get there, if there is not a dhcp server available, they too use avahi to plug in a totally useless, non-existant address in the 169.254 ipv4 block. And that does NOT get thru a router if one is in use. It might work if connected directly to the modem, I don't know as I've never been without a router once the net arrived at my street. With a router, the only reason I run iptables is to specifically block the bots that insist on mirroring my web pages, burning up 80 to 100 gigs a month of my 10 meg ADSL connection, virtually all of my upload bandwidth. Few of those jerks pay any attention to a robots.txt file. > Thanks, > Andy > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On 2022-03-24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> Greetings all; >> >> Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell early >> in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. I cannot >> get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. >> > > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give you > something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry Pi folks are > really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type problems. > > Take care > > Andy Cater > That's these images here, I guess, of which you are speaking: https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/
Re: its been done again. No network
Hello, On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:10:06PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): > ... > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and > > bring it up to date? > > https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP installations, > which number several hundred, minus about 5. Gene is not running Debian and is again wasting everyone's time by asking about it here, despite being repeatedly asked not to. So for anyone finding this in the archives, Gene's problem is not with Debian, it is with Raspbian, and his now-remembered solution does not apply to Debian. Thanks, Andy
Re: its been done again. No network
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:40:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell early > in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. I cannot > get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. > I'd strongly suggest that you use Gunnar Wolf's images that then give you something that is as near as anything vanilla Debian. Raspberry Pi folks are really not too interested in sorting out Debian-type problems. Take care Andy Cater > I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, and > canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a dozen > times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it is still > there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on that address > block. > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and > bring it up to date? > > Thanks all. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > > >
Re: its been done again. No network
On Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:10:06 EDT Felix Miata wrote:
> gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400):
> ...
>
> > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route
> > and bring it up to date?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP
> installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5.
Maybe it does, Felix, and While I'm a diehard debian fan, if you want to
use a pi to do something, the "fix" is in the pi versions of the OS where
it belongs, By putting it in the bottom of /etc/dhcpdcp.conf with the
comment immediately above it stating that its for the case of a dhcp
failure, fill in the correct data for a static network. And restart
networking. If you didn't muck it up typing it in, its a one stop fix.
Copy in your local hosts file, hostname, sudo set your domainname, and
your resolv.conf And its totally sensible. Its what to do if there is not
a dhcp server on the local network. But that makes entirely too much
sense, so nobody else does it. :-{> There is one other thing about the
pi's I like. Uptimes are from power failure to power failure, and I have
a small ups and a 20kw standby in the back yard that delivering power in
about 5 seconds after the lights go out. If I wasn't putzing with it,
uptimes would be a couple years. I can't say that for any wintel box
running debian here.
Take care Felix, and stay well.
> --
> Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
> based on faith, not based on science.
>
> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>
> Felix Miata
>
> .
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:58:58 EDT Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 24/3/22 8:40 am, gene heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell > > early in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. > > I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. > > > > I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, > > and > > canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a > > dozen times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it > > is still there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on > > that address block. > > > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route > > and bring it up to date? > > Check if you have NetworkManager running. If so, prepare to waste a lot > of time learning nmcli > > -- > Jeremy I just recalled that fix, its in the bottom 2 stanza's of /etc/ dhcpcd.conf, where it says if dns fails, use this. fill in the correct data. Restart networking. Fixed. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:02:27PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Never mind, I finally remembered that /etc/dhpdcp.conf had the last word ... because you're not. using. Debian. Unless you customized the installer. Also, you misspelled the filename. The program in question is named "dhcpcd", which stands for "DHCP Client Daemon". And it's a Raspbian thing, usually.
Re: its been done again. No network
gene heskett composed on 2022-03-23 20:40 (UTC-0400): ... > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and > bring it up to date? https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd works for my static IP installations, which number several hundred, minus about 5. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Re: its been done again. No network
On Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:40:49 EDT gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell > early in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. I > cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. > > I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, and > canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a dozen > times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it is > still there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on that > address block. > > So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and > bring it up to date? > > Thanks all. Never mind, I finally remembered that /etc/dhpdcp.conf had the last word if dns or other means failed, filled in the last two stanza's with good data and restarted the networking. Bingo I can ping yahoo.com. Onward and hopefully upward. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis > > > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: its been done again. No network
On 24/3/22 8:40 am, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell early in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, and canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a dozen times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it is still there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on that address block. So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and bring it up to date? Check if you have NetworkManager running. If so, prepare to waste a lot of time learning nmcli -- Jeremy OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
its been done again. No network
Greetings all; Just installed a arm64 linux on a raspi4, and as near as I can tell early in the game, everything seem to be working except the network. I cannot get rid of a default 169.254.xx.yy route in ip a or ip r. I have even renamed the /sbin/avahi-daemon to something insulting, and canceled its execute bits, and service networking restart about a dozen times after checking the rest of the networking config, but it is still there. There isn't a thing on my local network listening on that address block. So how do I get rid of it so I can have a net with MY default route and bring it up to date? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
