kernel upgrade from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.x

2005-06-10 Thread Juhani Pöyry

Hi,

I'm running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 on my computers. Filesystem is RaiserFS 
3.6.25. What I need to do for upgrading kernel to 2.6.x


Juhani Pöyry


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Re: kernel upgrade from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.x

2005-06-10 Thread Mark
Juhani Pöyry wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 on my computers. Filesystem is RaiserFS
 3.6.25. What I need to do for upgrading kernel to 2.6.x
 
 Juhani Pöyry
 
 

If you are going to build the kernel from source, don't forget to
also build Reiserfs into the kernel.

If you will be using the kernel-image-2.6.X from Debian there's not
much to consider.

Please understand that i've never done such a transition, But have
read about people doing it without problems.

Mark

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Re: kernel upgrade from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.x

2005-06-10 Thread Tony Godshall

  I'm running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 on my computers. Filesystem is RaiserFS
  3.6.25. What I need to do for upgrading kernel to 2.6.x
 
 If you are going to build the kernel from source, don't forget to
 also build Reiserfs into the kernel.
...

Or not.  initrd.



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Re: kernel upgrade from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.x

2005-06-10 Thread Mark
Tony Godshall wrote:
I'm running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 on my computers. Filesystem is RaiserFS
3.6.25. What I need to do for upgrading kernel to 2.6.x
 
  
 
If you are going to build the kernel from source, don't forget to
also build Reiserfs into the kernel.
 
 ...
 
 Or not.  initrd.
 
 

True. But the only real advantage I see in using initrd is a bootsplash.

For my servers I'd much rather just build everything I need right in
there.

Not using Initrd saves me one more thing to worry about. Too much
hassle don't you think?

Mark


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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-06 Thread George App
Problem fixed!  Thank you Alan.

I upgraded the FR114P firmware to the latest beta release (I had orignaly upgraded to 
the latest stable release) and every thing seems to be 
working fine.

Thanks,
George

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:21:29 +
Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 04 January 2004 20:22, George App wrote:
  Netgear FR114P router/firewall which is connected by DSL.
 
 This unit has the ability to block outgoing connections (at least if its 
 anything like my RP614).  I also discovered that my router locks solid if the 
 traffic on the wan side gets to much (my broadband connection gets about a 
 ping a second, but there are 7000 arp messages a minute).  Wonder if thats 
 what yours is doing?
 
 The solution was to power cycle the router.
 
 Also, look at the changelog for the latest release of the software for this 
 unit in www.netgear.com - fix 11 sounds a bit like your problem
 
 Can you run tcpdump or ethereal on your machine to see what the traffic is 
 between your machine and the router?
 
 [PS will have to hand over to someone else on the list to pick up and run with 
 this as I am away on business for a few days early tomorrow - and therefore 
 need to get to bed soon]
 
 
 
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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-04 Thread George App
I have no proxy server.

I have no server to test the telnet connection to.  I use mozilla for http access.  
apt-get is not even able to access http or ftp sites.

Everything works fine using the 2.4.18 kernel.


Thanks for your help.
-- George

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:53:23 +0100
GCS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:31:30PM -0800, George App [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I successfully upgraded my kernel from version 2.4.18 to 2.4.23.  I basically used 
  the kernel settings based upon my 2.4.18-xfs configuration.
  Did you touch any netfilter options?
 
  Everything works ok except to the fact that I am not able to access any http or 
  ftp locations.  I can however ping websites and look up host names.
  Any ideas on what this issue might be?
  Strange things to say. Do you have a proxy server? What do you use for
 http and ftp access? Do you succeed with 'telnet some.http.server.ip 80'
 and typing 'GET /' and enter?
 
 Cheers,
 GCS
 
 
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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-04 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 04 January 2004 18:42, George App wrote:
 I have no proxy server.

 I have no server to test the telnet connection to.  I use mozilla for http
 access.  apt-get is not even able to access http or ftp sites.

 Everything works fine using the 2.4.18 kernel.


What does you machine connect to the internet with (device?) is the module 
loaded?

What nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf



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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-04 Thread George App
Netgear FR114P router/firewall which is connected by DSL.

/etc/resolv.conf (file contents)
search
nameserver 64.160.192.70
nameserver 206.13.29.12

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Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 04 January 2004 18:42, George App wrote:
  I have no proxy server.
 
  I have no server to test the telnet connection to.  I use mozilla for http
  access.  apt-get is not even able to access http or ftp sites.
 
  Everything works fine using the 2.4.18 kernel.
 
 
 What does you machine connect to the internet with (device?) is the module 
 loaded?
 
 What nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf
 
 
 
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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-04 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 04 January 2004 20:22, George App wrote:
 Netgear FR114P router/firewall which is connected by DSL.

This unit has the ability to block outgoing connections (at least if its 
anything like my RP614).  I also discovered that my router locks solid if the 
traffic on the wan side gets to much (my broadband connection gets about a 
ping a second, but there are 7000 arp messages a minute).  Wonder if thats 
what yours is doing?

The solution was to power cycle the router.

Also, look at the changelog for the latest release of the software for this 
unit in www.netgear.com - fix 11 sounds a bit like your problem

Can you run tcpdump or ethereal on your machine to see what the traffic is 
between your machine and the router?

[PS will have to hand over to someone else on the list to pick up and run with 
this as I am away on business for a few days early tomorrow - and therefore 
need to get to bed soon]



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Re: Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-03 Thread GCS
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:31:30PM -0800, George App [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I successfully upgraded my kernel from version 2.4.18 to 2.4.23.  I basically used 
 the kernel settings based upon my 2.4.18-xfs configuration.
 Did you touch any netfilter options?

 Everything works ok except to the fact that I am not able to access any http or ftp 
 locations.  I can however ping websites and look up host names.
 Any ideas on what this issue might be?
 Strange things to say. Do you have a proxy server? What do you use for
http and ftp access? Do you succeed with 'telnet some.http.server.ip 80'
and typing 'GET /' and enter?

Cheers,
GCS


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Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-02 Thread George App
I successfully upgraded my kernel from version 2.4.18 to 2.4.23.  I basically used the 
kernel settings based upon my 2.4.18-xfs configuration.
Everything works ok except to the fact that I am not able to access any http or ftp 
locations.  I can however ping websites and look up host names.
Any ideas on what this issue might be?

Thanks,
George


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Kernel Upgrade from 2.4.18-xfs to 2.4.23

2004-01-02 Thread George App
I successfully upgraded my kernel from version 2.4.18 to 2.4.23.  I basically used the 
kernel settings based upon my 2.4.18-xfs configuration.
Everything works ok except to the fact that I am not able to access any http or ftp 
locations.  I can however ping websites and look up host names.
Any ideas on what this issue might be?

Thanks,
George


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Andrew Perrin
I'm definitely over my head in this debate and will happily defer to those
who know more about the issues involved. However, I will say that for my
situation I far prefer compiling in /usr/src/kernel-sources-* than in a
generic /usr/src/linux symlink. I have several different kernel configs
(and even one different kernel version) for different computers; I keep
them all in a centralized /usr/src, and I compile them all on one
machine. It would be very clumsy to have to rm and ln /usr/src/linux every
time I wanted to switch which kernel I'm working on.  And I've never had a
problem compiling the modules, including separate ones like pcmcia-cs and
openafs.

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and
   
  
  Sorry - forgot that step!
  
   there must be a softlink 
   /usr/src/linux that points to
   /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
   which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit
   
  
  No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
  /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
  then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
  then you need a symlink there.
  
 
 To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If
 you don't request compilation of a module that requires the link, you don't
 need the link. But I know of no way to know, a priori, which modules do
 require the link. I know that for the particular .config that I created
 the link was necessary. In this case, your mileage really does vary.
 
 I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it put in this
 link. It costs very little in computer resources, and it saves some users
 from an initial failed kernel build. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 05:55:31PM -0500, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
   On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
   
   [snip]
   
Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and

   
   Sorry - forgot that step!
   
there must be a softlink 
/usr/src/linux that points to
/usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit

   
   No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
   /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
   then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
   then you need a symlink there.
   
  
  To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If
  you don't request compilation of a module that requires the link, you don't
  need the link. But I know of no way to know, a priori, which modules do
  require the link. I know that for the particular .config that I created
  the link was necessary. In this case, your mileage really does vary.
  
  I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it put in this
  link. It costs very little in computer resources, and it saves some users
  from an initial failed kernel build. 
  
  
 
 I've recently heard arguments that putting a soft link
 /usr/src/linux - /usr/src/kernel-sources-x.x.xx
 breaks things in Debian. 
 
 Any comments on this?
 

I did one test as follows:
I used the config file that the maintainer place in 
kernel-image-2.4.18-686_2.4.18-5_i386.deb
This file gets installed at /boot/config-2.4.18-686
I copied it to /usr/scr/kernel-source-2.4.18/.config and did two builds using
make-kpkg. One build with the softlink and one without. I looked at the 
resulting two debian kernel-image packages using gmc. All the required modules
were in the package that was made with the softlink. Many modules were missing
from the package that was made without the softlink.

Maybe with a different selection of config settings the results would be 
different. In particular, if I made a config file that did not call for any 
of the modules that were missing, I suppose I would get a 'successful' build
without the softlink. 

My simple view of how computers work makes it very hard for me to believe that
an extra softlink would break a piece of functioning software. Replacing a
directory that is used for scratch with a softlink to a directory that contains
valuable stuff would surely play hob with the build, but that is not what is
being done. 

My test results have really strengthened my respect for Debian and it 
maintainers. And for this list. Thanks to you all. 

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Paul == Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul Actually I tried it both with the link and without the link.
 Paul With the link all the modules where created in the kernel-image
 Paul deb file.  But without the link only a tiny fraction of the
 Paul requested modules where created by make-kpkg. I think make-kpkg
 Paul really does need a soft link whose name is linux, not a soft
 Paul link to a target named linux.

You are seeing some other problem here.

 Paul But probably it is not make-kpkg that needs the link so much as
 Paul some kernel build script that is invoked by make-kpkg.

This is not the case. I always buiold all my kernels in
 /var/spool/kernel, and never ever have had a /usr/src/linucx link.

If some module needs such a link, pleas file a bug report.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Paul == Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
  
  No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
  /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
  then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
  then you need a symlink there.
  

 Paul To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require
 Paul the link.

Which modules are these? 

 Paul I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it
 Paul put in this link. It costs very little in computer resources,
 Paul and it saves some users from an initial failed kernel build.

I would prefer finding and fixing the real problem, and not
 put bandaids in  my packages to work around breakages elsewhere.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Kevin == Kevin C Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kevin I've recently heard arguments that putting a soft link
 Kevin /usr/src/linux - /usr/src/kernel-sources-x.x.xx
 Kevin breaks things in Debian. 

 Kevin Any comments on this?

It is unnecessary, but does not break things, no.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of
kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself.

I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should
be. I made the link (if I should or not, this is how I have always
done it otherwise) and have tried make menuconfig.

I keep getting errors about not having ncurses installed. I searced
with apt-get and have tried to install anything that even mentions
ncurses, but I still get the same error.

Any ideas? TIA.


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Matthew Daubenspeck([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of
 kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself.
 
 I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should
 be. I made the link (if I should or not, this is how I have always
 done it otherwise) and have tried make menuconfig.
 
 I keep getting errors about not having ncurses installed. I searced
 with apt-get and have tried to install anything that even mentions
 ncurses, but I still get the same error.

apt-cache search libncurses

libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev are what you need.
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi.  On this thread, TRUST MANOJ !

Any others' problems are mostly user issues.

On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 09:38:57AM -0400, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
 Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of
 kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself.
 
 I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should
 be. I made the link (if I should or not, this is how I have always
 done it otherwise) and have tried make menuconfig.

downloaded from Debian archive, I think.  Kernel source in Debian are
usually patched to be more compatible with what we do (initrd etc.).

 I keep getting errors about not having ncurses installed. I searched
 with apt-get and have tried to install anything that even mentions
 ncurses, but I still get the same error.

Install as follows:
 # apt-get update
 # apt-get install binutils bzip2 fileutils libc6-dev gcc make 
 # apt-get install libncurses5-dev kernel-package

You sounds like you need header file of ncurses. libncurses5-dev could
be libncurses4-dev instead. libc-dev and libncurses-dev are virtual package.

Next time you wonder dependency, run next command and pick all in Depends, 
Recommends, and Suggests.

$ apt-cache show kernel-source-2.4.18
Package: kernel-source-2.4.18
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 23432
Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: all
Version: 2.4.18-5
Provides: kernel-source, kernel-source-2.4
Depends: binutils, bzip2, fileutils (= 4.0)
Recommends: libc-dev, gcc, make
Suggests: libncurses-dev | ncurses-dev, kernel-package
Filename: pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.4.18/kernel-source-2.4.18_2.4.18-5_all.deb
Size: 23881186
MD5sum: 853b0644f07d7b1a6285a80fb05d1ddf
Description: Linux kernel source for version 2.4.18
 This package provides the source code for the Linux kernel version 2.4.18.
 .
 You may configure the kernel to your setup by typing make config
 and following instructions, but you could get ncursesX.X-dev and
 tkX.X-dev and try make menuconfig for a jazzier, and easier to use
 interface. Also, please read the detailed documentation in the file
 /usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.4.18/README.headers.gz.
 .
 If you wish to use this package to create a custom Linux kernel, then
 it is suggested that you investigate the package kernel-package,
 which has been designed to ease the task of creating kernel image
 packages.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
 To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If
^^ 
which one? Be specific.
 you don't request compilation of a module that requires the link, you don't
 need the link. But I know of no way to know, a priori, which modules do
 require the link. I know that for the particular .config that I created
 the link was necessary. In this case, your mileage really does vary.

Are you taliking sources for modules in kernel-source or external ones
in Debian archive, or tottaly new source which you found outside of
Debian?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-22 Thread Ian D. Stewart

On 2002.06.22 09:38 Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:

Sorry to pick up this conversation midstream, but all this talk of
kernel upgrades got me wondering, and I decided to try it for myself.

I have downloaded the sources and uncompressed them where they should
be. I made the link (if I should or not, this is how I have always
done it otherwise) and have tried make menuconfig.

I keep getting errors about not having ncurses installed. I searced
with apt-get and have tried to install anything that even mentions
ncurses, but I still get the same error.

Any ideas? TIA.


Assuming you have the source package, you should be able to do 'apt-get 
build-dep package' to install and configure all build dependencies.  
This seems to me to be the sanest aproach.



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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved] !Retraction!

2002-06-22 Thread Paul E Condon
I have been re-examining my work on soft links when building kernels with
make-kpkg. The kernel-image package that I generated when testing the case
of soft link not present was made with a wrong config file, i.e. not the same
one as the other case. I know this because I opened the deb packages and
compared the /boot/config-2.4.18 files in the two packages. They were not the
same. I certainly was intending to use the same config file, but, manifestly, 
I did not. 

I am sorry for the trouble I have caused. Please accept my sincere apology.

Debian rules! Paul is vanquished.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:

[snip]

 Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and
 

Sorry - forgot that step!

 there must be a softlink 
 /usr/src/linux that points to
 /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
 which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit
 

No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
/usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
then you need a symlink there.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and
  
 
 Sorry - forgot that step!
 
  there must be a softlink 
  /usr/src/linux that points to
  /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
  which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit
  
 
 No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
 /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
 then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
 then you need a symlink there.

Actually I tried it both with the link and without the link.
With the link all the modules where created in the kernel-image deb file. 
But without the link only a tiny fraction of the requested modules where
created by make-kpkg. I think make-kpkg really does need a soft link
whose name is linux, not a soft link to a target named linux.

But probably it is not make-kpkg that needs the link so much as some kernel
build script that is invoked by make-kpkg. 

 
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and
  
 
 Sorry - forgot that step!
 
  there must be a softlink 
  /usr/src/linux that points to
  /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
  which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit
  
 
 No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
 /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
 then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
 then you need a symlink there.
 

To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If
you don't request compilation of a module that requires the link, you don't
need the link. But I know of no way to know, a priori, which modules do
require the link. I know that for the particular .config that I created
the link was necessary. In this case, your mileage really does vary.

I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it put in this
link. It costs very little in computer resources, and it saves some users
from an initial failed kernel build. 




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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and
   
  
  Sorry - forgot that step!
  
   there must be a softlink 
   /usr/src/linux that points to
   /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
   which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit
   
  
  No, you do not need such a link. It works fine to compile in
  /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/linux
  then you need the link. If you prefer to compile in /usr/src/disneyland
  then you need a symlink there.
  
 
 To expand on my earlier post: Some module selections require the link. If
 you don't request compilation of a module that requires the link, you don't
 need the link. But I know of no way to know, a priori, which modules do
 require the link. I know that for the particular .config that I created
 the link was necessary. In this case, your mileage really does vary.
 
 I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it put in this
 link. It costs very little in computer resources, and it saves some users
 from an initial failed kernel build. 
 
 

I've recently heard arguments that putting a soft link
/usr/src/linux - /usr/src/kernel-sources-x.x.xx
breaks things in Debian. 

Any comments on this?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-21 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Friday 21 June 2002 03:55 pm, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:51:15PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:59:32AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
   On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:
  
   [snip]

[snip]

  I think it would be a useful addition to make-kpkg to have it put in this
  link. It costs very little in computer resources, and it saves some users
  from an initial failed kernel build.

 I've recently heard arguments that putting a soft link
 /usr/src/linux - /usr/src/kernel-sources-x.x.xx
 breaks things in Debian.

 Any comments on this?

Yup. Check yer sources!! I have ALWAYS done the

ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-x.xx.xx /usr/src/linux

and all of my boxen are 5 x 5. Though if I complie straight from
/usr/src/kernel-source-x.xx.xx, I end up fighting the module creation.

Regards,

Griz

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-20 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote:

 I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20... #(from 2.2.19pre..)
 Is this wrong/bad style? This is not mentioned as a proper method in
 the docs/link above. What about kernel-headers-... then?

Nothing wrong with your style. But you are talking of something
different.  They were talking about compiling a new kernel and you are
talking about installing a compiled kernel using apt.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Paul == Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Paul The given recipe is:

 Paul apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18
 Paul cd /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18
 Paul make oldconfig 

Aha. You are creating a default .config here, which may have
 vastly less modules selected than what you had before. As far as I
 know, the kernel sources .deb does not come with a .config (I have
 not checked the official .debs recently, though)

Perhaps you should cp /boot/config-whatever version you have .config
 before running make oldconfig? 

 Paul (interactive config work (I chose all defaults) )
 Paul make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
 Paul cd /usr/src
 Paul dpkg -i kernel-images-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
 Paul (reboot)

 Paul I look for ways to compile modules, but all I find is an
 Paul instruction to cd to /usr/src/modules, but I have no such
 Paul directory. What should I do to get my modules?

You need to do nothing extra -- you just need to make sure you
 configured everything into the kenrel in the first place. make menuconfig
 should help you determine what is in, ad what is not.

 Paul I've already tried 
 Paul make-kpkg buildpackage
 Paul and
 Paul make-kpkg modules_image

 Paul Both return almost immediately, with criptic lines of script
 Paul code displayed.

These targets are for Debian-pacjkaged third party modules not
 shipped with kernel sources.

 Paul Are the modules sources in a different package? What is its
 Paul name?

No, the modules are all there. Your .config is the issue.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 [Solved]

2002-06-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:54:26AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Paul == Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  Paul The given recipe is:
 
  Paul apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18

Also here, the tarball must be untarred, which I figured out myself, and

there must be a softlink 
/usr/src/linux that points to
/usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18, 
which was pointed out to me by Griz Inabnit

I am thinking about a wish-list suggestion that would save future newbies
from this, but haven't worked it out yet.


Thanks


  Paul cd /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18
  Paul make oldconfig 
 
   Aha. You are creating a default .config here, which may have
  vastly less modules selected than what you had before. As far as I
  know, the kernel sources .deb does not come with a .config (I have
  not checked the official .debs recently, though)
 
   Perhaps you should cp /boot/config-whatever version you have .config
  before running make oldconfig? 
 
  Paul (interactive config work (I chose all defaults) )
  Paul make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
  Paul cd /usr/src
  Paul dpkg -i kernel-images-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
  Paul (reboot)
 
  Paul I look for ways to compile modules, but all I find is an
  Paul instruction to cd to /usr/src/modules, but I have no such
  Paul directory. What should I do to get my modules?
 
   You need to do nothing extra -- you just need to make sure you
  configured everything into the kenrel in the first place. make menuconfig
  should help you determine what is in, ad what is not.
 
  Paul I've already tried 
  Paul make-kpkg buildpackage
  Paul and
  Paul make-kpkg modules_image
 
  Paul Both return almost immediately, with criptic lines of script
  Paul code displayed.
 
   These targets are for Debian-pacjkaged third party modules not
  shipped with kernel sources.
 
  Paul Are the modules sources in a different package? What is its
  Paul name?
 
   No, the modules are all there. Your .config is the issue.
 
   manoj
 
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-19 Thread Jan Groenewald
all,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 05:30:47PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
  Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in
  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking
  ?
 Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming
 root having started with Slackware years ago :), I _do_ basically follow
 that procedure.
I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20... #(from 2.2.19pre..)
Is this wrong/bad style? This is not mentioned as a proper
method in the docs/link above. What about kernel-headers-... then?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-18 Thread Paul E Condon
I upgraded to Woody two or three months ago, but did not upgrade the kernel
then because I did not feel confident of my ability to read and follow the
various directions. Recent posts in this thread gave me a feeling of 
confidence, so I've attempted to follow the recipe given. Now I need help.

The given recipe is:

apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18
cd /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18
make oldconfig 
(interactive config work (I chose all defaults) )
make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
cd /usr/src
dpkg -i kernel-images-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
(reboot)

At first glance, this worked, but I have no network access.
Further, investigation shows that there several error messages scrolling by
during boot. One says ds: no socket drivers loaded!
Another says modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate char-major-10-135
I look in /lib/modules/2.4.18 and find vastly fewer modules than in 
/lib/modules/2.2.19

I look for ways to compile modules, but all I find is an instruction to cd to
/usr/src/modules, but I have no such directory. What should I do to get my
modules? 

I've already tried 
make-kpkg buildpackage
and
make-kpkg modules_image

Both return almost immediately, with criptic lines of script code displayed.
Are the modules sources in a different package? What is its name?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Tim == Tim Grogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tim I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700
 Tim system.  I've been following this thread with great interest.
 Tim I've seen some good pointers from a lot of folks.  Could someone
 Tim please just put a dummy list of steps on how to upgrade a
 Tim kernel.  I've downloaded about 3 howtos but they are for
 Tim compiling kernels manually.  This seems to be another way
 Tim (easier too) to do the same thing.  If there already is a howto
 Tim developed, please let me know.


What is wrong with /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 (Solved, but...)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:33:17PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
 I upgraded to Woody two or three months ago, but did not upgrade the kernel
 then because I did not feel confident of my ability to read and follow the
 various directions. Recent posts in this thread gave me a feeling of 
 confidence, so I've attempted to follow the recipe given. Now I need help.
 
 The given recipe is:
 
 apt-get install kernel-sources-2.4.18
 cd /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.18
 make oldconfig 
 (interactive config work (I chose all defaults) )
 make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
 cd /usr/src
 dpkg -i kernel-images-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
 (reboot)
 
 At first glance, this worked, but I have no network access.
 Further, investigation shows that there several error messages scrolling by
 during boot. One says ds: no socket drivers loaded!
 Another says modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate char-major-10-135
 I look in /lib/modules/2.4.18 and find vastly fewer modules than in 
 /lib/modules/2.2.19
 
 I look for ways to compile modules, but all I find is an instruction to cd to
 /usr/src/modules, but I have no such directory. What should I do to get my
 modules? 
 
 I've already tried 
 make-kpkg buildpackage
 and
 make-kpkg modules_image
 
 Both return almost immediately, with criptic lines of script code displayed.
 Are the modules sources in a different package? What is its name?
 
 TIA
 -- 

I worked some more on this. I could not get make-kpkg to make modules even 
though that capability is clearly indicated in the man page. I wanted to make
it work because I have been messed up before by mixing two different 
procedures.

In this case the solution to my problem was, simply to do:

make modules
make modules_install

With this approach, a modules_image debian package is never created, which 
seems not to be what is intended by the Debian approach. 

Has the Debian approach worked for anyone who wants a full install, including
modules? Take care in answering yes. If you try on a system that already has
the correct set of modules installed, you may never notice that the script is
failing. I suspect there is a bug here. 

I hope someone can point out to me what I was doing wrong. 


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18 (Solved, but...)

2002-06-18 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:

 Has the Debian approach worked for anyone who wants a full install, including
 modules? Take care in answering yes.

OK, yes.  BUT the only modules which I've _needed_ to create the Debian
way are the pcmcia-cs modules, which are unpacked from the pcmcia-cs
package into /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs, and those are the only modules in
the modules directory.  However, in /lib/modules/2.4.18/ is a bunch of
other stuff; and I _always_ (re)move my old modules directory when
installing a new kernel.  I'm pretty sure (the experts can speak to it)
that dpkg -i kernel-image takes care of installing everything which you
select _as a module_ during the kernel config, and that you only need to
make modules the Debian way when they are third party modules like
pcmcia-cs.  BICBW ;)

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kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho

Hi everybody.

I running Debian Woody ( kernel 2.2.20) and I trying
to upgrade to kernel 2.4.18...
a did an apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 ) just perfect.

the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called
linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18)
when I give a make-kpkg --revision kernel.2.4.18 it says that the source
is not at the top of the linux kernel directory. ( I've already 
installed the

latest kernel-package)

what am I doing wrong?!
does anyone have an make-kpkg example?!

I think its more of a sintax error... ( I writing something wrong)

I've checked the kernel how0to section at the documentation
page

regards

[]'s

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just:

cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
make menuconfig
make-kpkg

2.) Don't use --revision to note the kernel version; make-kpkg will do
that for you. Use --revision if you want to tag it to specific config
options you've used. I generally do:

make-kpkg --revision ofcx.y

where x.y is a version of my configuration, NOT of the kernel itself.

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 Hi everybody.
 
 I running Debian Woody ( kernel 2.2.20) and I trying
 to upgrade to kernel 2.4.18...
 a did an apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 ) just perfect.
 
 the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called
 linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18)
 when I give a make-kpkg --revision kernel.2.4.18 it says that the source
 is not at the top of the linux kernel directory. ( I've already 
 installed the
 latest kernel-package)
 
 what am I doing wrong?!
 does anyone have an make-kpkg example?!
 
 I think its more of a sintax error... ( I writing something wrong)
 
 I've checked the kernel how0to section at the documentation
 page
 
 regards
 
 []'s
 
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called
 linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18)

'rm -Rf linux' to remove your directory
'ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 linux' to create your link

You tried to symlink an existing directory to the source tree.  If you
look in the linux directory before you remove it, by the way, you'll see a
broken symbolic link.  In other words, your machine did exactly as you
told it to, but not what you meant to tell it to do ;)

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Andrew Perrin wrote:

 1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just:
 
 cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
 make menuconfig
 make-kpkg

This will work, of course.  But other packages (pcmcia-cs, for example,
I'm pretty sure) expect to find the kernel source tree in /usr/src/linux,
so creating the symbolic link is a good idea.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho

Andrew Perrin wrote:


1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just:

cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
make menuconfig
make-kpkg

2.) Don't use --revision to note the kernel version; make-kpkg will do
that for you. Use --revision if you want to tag it to specific config
options you've used. I generally do:

make-kpkg --revision ofcx.y

where x.y is a version of my configuration, NOT of the kernel itself.

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:


Hi everybody.

I running Debian Woody ( kernel 2.2.20) and I trying
to upgrade to kernel 2.4.18...
a did an apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 ) just perfect.

the kerbel-source was saved at /usr/src... I created a dir called
linux and a ln -s to the unzipped source ( /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18)
when I give a make-kpkg --revision kernel.2.4.18 it says that the source
is not at the top of the linux kernel directory. ( I've already 
installed the

latest kernel-package)

what am I doing wrong?!
does anyone have an make-kpkg example?!

I think its more of a sintax error... ( I writing something wrong)

I've checked the kernel how0to section at the documentation
page

regards

[]'s

Francisco


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I did all that was especified, but I can't tell if i running the new 
kernel...

i went to /etc/lilo.conf and there was a line showing vmlinuz and another
showing vmlinuz.old...
is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!

regards.

Francisco



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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!

uname -a


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho

Andrew Perrin wrote:


On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:


is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!



uname -a



the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
as done, except run the lilo command.

regards

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Yes. You need to install the new kernel:

dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18...

and then reboot.

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 Andrew Perrin wrote:
 
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 
 is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!
 
 
 uname -a
 
 
 the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
 what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
 must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
 as done, except run the lilo command.
 
 regards
 
 Francisco
 
 


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 03:30:05PM -0300, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 Andrew Perrin wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!

 uname -a

 the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
 what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
 must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
 as done, except run the lilo command.

I missed the start of the thread, but you do know that you will have
to reboot in order to use the new kernel?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
 must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
 as done, except run the lilo command.

You need to install the kernel; from /usr/src/linux

'dpkg -i ../kernel_image.deb'

Do 'ls ..' to get the name of the actual .deb file you made with
make-kpkg.  And you won't need to run lilo, the install takes care of that
for you.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho

Andrew Perrin wrote:


Yes. You need to install the new kernel:

dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18...

and then reboot.

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:


Andrew Perrin wrote:


On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:


is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!


uname -a


the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
as done, except run the lilo command.

regards

Francisco





when I ran the dpkg -i command it returned the follwing errors:

dpkg-split: error reading /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/: Is a directory
dpkg: error processing /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/ (--install):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
Error were encountered while processing:
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/

The kernel-source is in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18...

regards

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Try again - you ran dpkg -k kernel-source...

You need to find the .deb that make-kpkg created. It's in /usr/src.

Try:

ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb

You're looking for kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb

Then do dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb

ap

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 Andrew Perrin wrote:
 
 Yes. You need to install the new kernel:
 
 dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18...
 
 and then reboot.
 
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 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 
 Andrew Perrin wrote:
 
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 
 is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!
 
 uname -a
 
 the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
 what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
 must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
 as done, except run the lilo command.
 
 regards
 
 Francisco
 
 
 
 when I ran the dpkg -i command it returned the follwing errors:
 
 dpkg-split: error reading /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/: Is a directory
 dpkg: error processing /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/ (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
 Error were encountered while processing:
 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/
 
 The kernel-source is in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18...
 
 regards
 
 Francisco
 
 


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 13:30, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 Andrew Perrin wrote:
 
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:
 
 is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?!
 
 
 uname -a
 
 
 the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20...
 what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK...
 must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else
 as done, except run the lilo command.

Yes, I know it's a stupid question: did you reboot?

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Tim Grogan
I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 system.  I've been
following this thread with great interest.  I've seen some good pointers from a
lot of folks.  Could someone please just put a dummy list of steps on how to
upgrade a kernel.  I've downloaded about 3 howtos but they are for compiling
kernels manually.  This seems to be another way (easier too) to do the same
thing.  If there already is a howto developed, please let me know.

Tim

p.s. for an athlon system do I need a special version of the kernel?

 Try again - you ran dpkg -k kernel-source...

 You need to find the .deb that make-kpkg created. It's in /usr/src.

 Try:

 ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb

 You're looking for kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb

 Then do dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb





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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
Here's what I do:

apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18
cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
make menuconfig
(select/deselect for your needs)
make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
cd /usr/src
dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
reboot


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On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Tim Grogan wrote:

 I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 system.  I've 
 been
 following this thread with great interest.  I've seen some good pointers from 
 a
 lot of folks.  Could someone please just put a dummy list of steps on how to
 upgrade a kernel.  I've downloaded about 3 howtos but they are for compiling
 kernels manually.  This seems to be another way (easier too) to do the same
 thing.  If there already is a howto developed, please let me know.
 
 Tim
 
 p.s. for an athlon system do I need a special version of the kernel?
 
  Try again - you ran dpkg -k kernel-source...
 
  You need to find the .deb that make-kpkg created. It's in /usr/src.
 
  Try:
 
  ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb
 
  You're looking for kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb
 
  Then do dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Francisco Fialho

Tim Grogan wrote:


I'm trying to compile the exact same image on my Athlon 1700 system.  I've been
following this thread with great interest.  I've seen some good pointers from a
lot of folks.  Could someone please just put a dummy list of steps on how to
upgrade a kernel.  I've downloaded about 3 howtos but they are for compiling
kernels manually.  This seems to be another way (easier too) to do the same
thing.  If there already is a howto developed, please let me know.

Tim

p.s. for an athlon system do I need a special version of the kernel?


Try again - you ran dpkg -k kernel-source...

You need to find the .deb that make-kpkg created. It's in /usr/src.

Try:

ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb

You're looking for kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb

Then do dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.18-something.deb







I ran an find / -name kernel-image*.*
and there was no result ( I ran make-kpkg twice) :-)

any clue?!

regards

Francisco



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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote:

 Try:
 
 ls -l /usr/src/kernel*deb
 
 [snip]

 I ran an find / -name kernel-image*.*
 and there was no result ( I ran make-kpkg twice) :-)
 
 any clue?!
 

The clue is: follow directions!  What is the output of:

ls /usr/src/kernel*deb

if the answer is nothing, then you need to post the output from your
make-kpkg commands.


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Scott Henson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 15:16, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 Here's what I do:
 
 apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18
 cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
make oldconfig

 make menuconfig
   (select/deselect for your needs)
make-kpkg clean
 make-kpkg --revision ofc1.x binary
 cd /usr/src
 dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18_ofc1.x_i386.deb
 reboot
 

adding this step will have you start from a known working config.  Also
I think the make-kpkg line should be something closer to
make-kpkg --revision x.y kernel_image

Also the *.deb should be in the directory /usr/src/  So look for it
there. You should do a man make-kpkg for the full amount of options you
have.  make-kpkg is actually a very nice tool for compiling kernels.
Oh and Im not sure if you have already said this, but make sure you are
running Woody or Sid.  Potato can not handle 2.4.x kernels.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ivo Wever

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

Andrew Perrin wrote:



1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just:

cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
make menuconfig
make-kpkg




Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking
?
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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Ivo Wever wrote:

 Patrick Wiseman wrote:
  Andrew Perrin wrote:
  
  
 1.) Don't both with linking to linux. Just:
 
 cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
 make menuconfig
 make-kpkg
  
  
 Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in

Take care with attribution!!  I didn't say any of the above.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Ivo Wever wrote:

 Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking
 ?

Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming
root having started with Slackware years ago :), I _do_ basically follow
that procedure.

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

2002-06-17 Thread Ivo Wever

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

Ivo Wever wrote:



Why doesn't anyone follow the procedure outlined in
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking
?


Other than use of 'fakeroot' (which I don't use because I'm happy becoming
root having started with Slackware years ago :), I _do_ basically follow
that procedure.

I understand there are good reasons for placing the source in 
/usr/local/src/kernel-source.x.y.z, a directory not owned by root. 
Something to do with symlinks I read on a kernel-digest once, but I 
can't remember the details.


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