Re: Lilo and Win98 Q's

2001-01-31 Thread Kent West

KC6SBJ wrote:


Has anyone found Lilo not to be written over while installing Win98 on
c: (hda1).



Try fdisk /mbr from a DOS/Win9x boot floppy (it'll have to have fdisk 
on it, of course). This will wipe the master boot record (leaving the 
rest of the disk/partitions intact). Then, if you've already reinstalled 
Win98, you'll have to do a sys c from a Win98 boot disk. Then you can 
reconfigure lilo.conf and rerun lilo if you want to set up a dual boot.




Lilo and Win98 Q's

2001-01-30 Thread KC6SBJ
Has anyone found Lilo not to be written over while installing Win98 on
c: (hda1).
Why is Windows going back on my machine. The Kids Games that caused it
to crash.
I am still booting Storm / Debian potato and Windows will not reload. 
Even after formating C: (hda1).

Glad somthing is working, Even if Stormmix is having $$$'s problems.
Tobad...

Lowell Voelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My ISP is getting rid of Shell accounts too.  That drove me to
Storm/Debian



Re: Lilo and Win98 Q's

2001-01-30 Thread Casey Webster
on my dual boot machine, a windows reinstall always overwrites the mbr to
boot straight into windows.  I always keep boot floppy around so i can
boot and re-lilo the thing.  If you are having problems getting lilo to
load windows, the line i have in my lilo.conf to do this is

other=/dev/hda1
   label=win
   table=/dev/hda

and that works for me.  You may also want to change the Delay=20 line to
something more than 2 seconds, as its easy to miss that window if you
arent paying attention to yuor machine booting.

-Casey

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, KC6SBJ wrote:

 Has anyone found Lilo not to be written over while installing Win98 on
 c: (hda1).
 Why is Windows going back on my machine. The Kids Games that caused it
 to crash.
 I am still booting Storm / Debian potato and Windows will not reload. 
 Even after formating C: (hda1).
 
 Glad somthing is working, Even if Stormmix is having $$$'s problems.
 Tobad...
 
 Lowell Voelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My ISP is getting rid of Shell accounts too.  That drove me to
 Storm/Debian
 
 
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Re: chos, lilo, linux, win98, oh my!

1999-07-12 Thread Ben Cranston
Robbie Huffman wrote:

 I would go back to using lilo, but after running lilo I still get chos at
 boot time. Any help with either would be greatly appreciated.

See if you have chos installed in the hard disk boot area and lilo
installed in a partition boot area.  If so, you could use the dos

fdisk /mbr

to blow away chos.

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chos, lilo, linux, win98, oh my!

1999-07-10 Thread Robbie Huffman

Has anyone out in debian-userland managed to get chos to boot Win98? I have
it installed on a small drive at /dev/hdc1. If I set my bios to boot drive D
Win98 works great. But the following entry with chos gives me errors.

bootsect Windows 98 {
  color=lightblue
  image=/dev/hdc1
}

I would go back to using lilo, but after running lilo I still get chos at
boot time. Any help with either would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely confused,
Robbie


Re: chos, lilo, linux, win98, oh my!

1999-07-10 Thread Dan
That config doesn't really sound right... I mean, image=/dev/hdc1 would 
imply that the image IS that drive. Shouldn't it be something more like 
root=/dev/hdc1 or something like a lilo config? I would seriously just go to 
lilo. Can you not remove the ``chos'' package through dselect? If not, just 
remove it from the initialization scripts in /etc/init.d/

-dan



From: Robbie Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: chos, lilo, linux, win98, oh my!
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:49:22 -0400


Has anyone out in debian-userland managed to get chos to boot Win98? I have
it installed on a small drive at /dev/hdc1. If I set my bios to boot drive 
D

Win98 works great. But the following entry with chos gives me errors.

bootsect Windows 98 {
  color=lightblue
  image=/dev/hdc1
}

I would go back to using lilo, but after running lilo I still get chos at
boot time. Any help with either would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely confused,
Robbie


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Re: chos, lilo, linux, win98, oh my!

1999-07-10 Thread Robbie Huffman
On Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 06:21:19AM +, Dan wrote:
 That config doesn't really sound right... I mean, image=/dev/hdc1 would 
 imply that the image IS that drive. Shouldn't it be something more like 
 root=/dev/hdc1 or something like a lilo config? I would seriously just go to 
 lilo. Can you not remove the ``chos'' package through dselect? If not, just 
 remove it from the initialization scripts in /etc/init.d/
 -dan

That config is the best I could make of the example file in /usr/doc/chos.
There doesn't seem to be a root= sort of option. As for removing the package,
well, I could, but that would still leave chos installed as the bootloader.
I can't get lilo to replace it.

Hope that clarifies the situation.

Many thanks,
Robbie


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-22 Thread Gertjan Klein
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:28:54 -0500 (CDT), Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote:

   Interesting to see that this works for W9x. Just out of curiousity: if
 you go to Control Panel - System and press the device tab, does it say
 the File System is 32-bit?

i haven't explicitly checked, but logically it must. Before i installed
Linux the filesystem was FAT32 and i did no reformatting of the windows
partition. If it were not reading a FAT32 filesystem, windows wouldn't
even boot because it could not possibly find any file correctly.

  Would you mind checking?  The information on that tab doesn't actually
apply to the filesystem itself, but to the disk I/O driver.  W9x says
the filesystem is 32 bit if it has completely replaced the BIOS disk
drivers with its own, protected mode (32-bit) drivers.  Reasons for not
doing so include the presence of older, 16-bit drivers in config.sys.
W9x does some tests when booting: it reads a couple of sectors through
BIOS, and then the same sectors by directly accessing the harddisk.  If
it encounters differences, (i.e., doesn't get the same sectors back from
both reads), it will keep on using the BIOS routines for disk I/O.

  There are two reasons why W9x could support the drive swapping that
LILO does on your system. It could recognise the actual swapping for
what it is and implement it in it's own (32-bit) driver.  Alternatively,
it could see that something is messing with the drive mapping and leave
it alone; it would keep on using the BIOS for disk I/O.  In the latter
case, it would report the filesystem as 16-bit.  I'm just curious what
it does.

  Gertjan.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-22 Thread Brad
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote:

   Would you mind checking?  The information on that tab doesn't actually
 apply to the filesystem itself, but to the disk I/O driver.  W9x says
 the filesystem is 32 bit if it has completely replaced the BIOS disk
 drivers with its own, protected mode (32-bit) drivers.  Reasons for not

Ah, when you said File System is 32-bit i thought you meant just that,
and not the filesystem io.

Checking, the io is indeed 32 bit. Also, as a further test i created a FAT
partition on hda3 (windows is on hdb1 and hdb5). Drive C was still hdb1,
but drive D became hda3 and drive E was hdb5.

   There are two reasons why W9x could support the drive swapping that
 LILO does on your system. It could recognise the actual swapping for
 what it is and implement it in it's own (32-bit) driver.  Alternatively,
 it could see that something is messing with the drive mapping and leave
 it alone; it would keep on using the BIOS for disk I/O.  In the latter
 case, it would report the filesystem as 16-bit.  I'm just curious what
 it does.

My guess is that for booting it uses the bios, and is therefore fooled by
the swapping. Later on, it installs its own drivers. It automatically uses
whichever partition it was booted from as C: (which is already 'mounted' 
by this time anyway, otherwise we couldn't have even gotten to this
point). It then scans the hard drives, without using the bios, and mounts
all FAT partitions as it finds them.


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-22 Thread Gertjan Klein
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:29:53 -0500 (CDT), Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Ah, when you said File System is 32-bit i thought you meant just that,
and not the filesystem io.

  Ah, but this isn't about what _I_ mean, but what terminology W9x
uses...

Checking, the io is indeed 32 bit. Also, as a further test i created a FAT
partition on hda3 (windows is on hdb1 and hdb5). Drive C was still hdb1,
but drive D became hda3 and drive E was hdb5.

  The way W9x assigns drive letters to partitions is, as far as I know,
unchanged from how DOS used to do it (although I don't know how the new
partition types fit into the picture).  These rules are a bit
complicated, and can be found in the Boot Control documentation if
anyone is interested (see my .sig).  It is interesting to see, though,
that apparently W98 recognises drive swapping and implements it in it's
own driver.  I'll have to do some experiments with this as soon as I've
got sufficient hardware for testing.  (Currently my only PC with two HDs
is a 386 with 4 MB, and I'm not even going to try installing W98 to
that; it is running Debian, functioning as an IP masquerading Internet
gateway for my local network, without any problems.  Beat that, W9x or
NT!)

  Gertjan.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-21 Thread Brad
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Sander Balkenende wrote:

 hi
 I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start
 win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine.

I have the exact same setup (unless you have the new release of '98), even
the same partition numbers. First, i'll assume that your Windoze partition
is bootable if you tell bios to boot from the second drive, or switch the
drives around. Don't actually do it for keeps, but it's a good way to
check that it can boot on its own ;)

Then, this lilo.conf should work. This is an exact copy of my current
conf with comments added.

  boot=/dev/hda
  vga=normal
  map=/boot/map
  # Next three or four lines are for my boot menu
  prompt
  timeout=100
  message=/boot/startup-msg
  default=Linux

  # Normal Linux image
  image=/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda1
label=Linux
read-only
alias=1
  #
  # Backup, if you use make-kpkg or the kernel debs, it automatically
  # symlinks vmlinuz.old to the kernel you just replaced
  image=/vmlinuz.old
root=/dev/hda1
label=oldLinux
read-only
alias=3
  #
  # Here's the windoze boot, in case i ever need it
  other=/dev/hdb1
table=/dev/hdb
# Next 4 lines tell bios to make windows think it's on the first HD
map-drive = 0x80
  to = 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
  to = 0x80
# chain.b is implied.
label=win
alias=2

Until i added the map-drive options, windows would refuse to boot; it
would freeze after Lilo said Loading win... and tried to hand control to
the MBR.

Wonder if micros~1 will somehow render this ineffective when they release
W2K?


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-21 Thread Gertjan Klein
On 20 Jun 1999 23:43:06 +0200, Rui Zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

other=/dev/hdb1
label=win
map-drive=0x80 
  to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
  to=0x80

  Interesting to see that this works for W9x. Just out of curiousity: if
you go to Control Panel - System and press the device tab, does it say
the File System is 32-bit?

  Gertjan.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-21 Thread Sander Balkenende
I resolved the problem of booting Linux by making my win98 drive hda again
and reinstalled Debian on hdb (at the moment, I am just experimenting with
Linux). This works fine, I have to fine-tune loadlin, but that works.
When trying to load loadlin from config.sys with the [menu] command, it
works the first time, but after that, windoze has rewritten the config.sys
and erased the line that loads linux.bat (which activates loadlin). Has
anyone experiences with that?

 other=/dev/hdb1
 label=win
 map-drive=0x80
   to=0x81
 map-drive=0x81
   to=0x80

   Interesting to see that this works for W9x. Just out of curiousity: if
 you go to Control Panel - System and press the device tab, does it say
 the File System is 32-bit?

   Gertjan.



Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-21 Thread Gertjan Klein
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:39:56 +0200, Sander Balkenende [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I resolved the problem of booting Linux by making my win98 drive hda again
and reinstalled Debian on hdb (at the moment, I am just experimenting with
Linux). This works fine, I have to fine-tune loadlin, but that works.
When trying to load loadlin from config.sys with the [menu] command, it
works the first time, but after that, windoze has rewritten the config.sys
and erased the line that loads linux.bat (which activates loadlin). Has
anyone experiences with that?

  Weird.  You may want to try installing LILO in the MBR of the first
harddisk, so you can choose before W98 even start and won't need
loadlin.

  Gertjan.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-21 Thread Brad
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote:

 On 20 Jun 1999 23:43:06 +0200, Rui Zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 other=/dev/hdb1
 label=win
 map-drive=0x80 
   to=0x81
 map-drive=0x81
   to=0x80
 
   Interesting to see that this works for W9x. Just out of curiousity: if
 you go to Control Panel - System and press the device tab, does it say
 the File System is 32-bit?

i haven't explicitly checked, but logically it must. Before i installed
Linux the filesystem was FAT32 and i did no reformatting of the windows
partition. If it were not reading a FAT32 filesystem, windows wouldn't
even boot because it could not possibly find any file correctly.


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Hartmut Figge

 I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start
 win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my
 lilo.conf:

 other=/dev/hdb1
 label=dos

a look at my lilo.conf reveals:

other=/dev/hda1
label=DOS
table=/dev/hda

could it your missing ´table´? sorry, too much time has gone since i
wrote my .conf (:

hafi


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Sander Balkenende
  I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start
  win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my
  lilo.conf:

  other=/dev/hdb1
  label=dos

 could it your missing ´table?'

I added the line

table=/dev/hdb

and after doing /sbin/lilo, no result. (message: loading dos, nothing
happens after that)

Sander


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Hartmut Figge
Sander Balkenende wrote:

 table=/dev/hdb

hm, hm, i try to remember and...
yes.
to boot dos (or win) this hd must be the first. how about the exchange
of the hd´s? or, maybe, if you make your hdb bootable...

good luck

hfi


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Greg Starkes
 Sander Balkenende wrote:
 
 hi
 I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start
 win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my
 lilo.conf:

I believe that Windows 98 (like DOS and Windows95) must be on the first
partition of the first hard drive.

Remember one of the Ten Commandments of Microsoft:
Thou shalt have no other operating systems before me.

So basically, put win98 on hda1 and linux on hdb1, with lilo on hda's
MBR.

My lilo.conf is attached.

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Newfoundland.
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-Neil Peart, Rush, Show Don't Tellboot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hdb1
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
read-only

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux

other=/dev/hda1
label=98
table=/dev/hda



Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 to boot dos (or win) this hd must be the first. how about the exchange
 of the hd´s? or, maybe, if you make your hdb bootable...

i just looked into /usr/doc/lilo/manual.txt.gz and found

MAP-DRIVE=bios_device_code  Instructs chain.b to installs a resident
  driver that re-maps the floppy or hard disk drives. This way, one can
  boot any operating system from a hard disk different from the first
  one, as long as that operating system uses _only_ the BIOS to access
  that hard disk.* This is known to work for PC/MS-DOS.

this option wasn`t available when i wrote my lilo.conf. irecommend that
you look into this file.

hafi


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread jello
 I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start win 
 (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my lilo.conf:
 
 boot=/dev/hda1
 root=/dev/hda1
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 delay=20
 image=/vmlinuz
 label=Linux
 read-only
 other=/dev/hdb1
 label=dos

 Change 'boot=/dev/hda1' to 'boot=/dev/hda'.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread DYang50492
In a message dated 6/19/99 10:20:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 CC:  debian-user@lists.debian.org 
I don't know how lilo works exactly. but,the general rule is that the 
partition for win98 must be bootable itself. Then MBR is capable of switching 
to win98 booting area by looking at the partition table. 


Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Gertjan Klein
On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:23:38 -0230, Greg Starkes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I believe that Windows 98 (like DOS and Windows95) must be on the first
partition of the first hard drive.

  There is no requirement that W98 be on the first partition, but none
of DOS/W95/W98 directly support being booted from a second harddisk.
I've got it to work for DOS once, but it required patching the DOS
partition bootsector, and I don't know how to do that for W9x (the
bootsector is different).

  Gertjan.

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Re: lilo and win98

1999-06-20 Thread Rui Zhu
Sander Balkenende [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hi
 I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start win 
 (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my lilo.conf:
 
 boot=/dev/hda1
 root=/dev/hda1
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 delay=20
 image=/vmlinuz
 label=Linux
 read-only
 other=/dev/hdb1
 label=dos
 
 can anyone help me?
 Thanx, Sander

I boot my win95 on hdb ok, here is my lilo.conf, you may get idea.

boot=/dev/hda1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=30
default=deb

image=/vmlinuz
label=deb
root=/dev/hda1
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=deb.old
root=/dev/hda1
read-only

other=/dev/hdb1
label=win
map-drive=0x80 
  to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
  to=0x80


lilo and win98

1999-06-19 Thread Sander Balkenende



hi
I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying 
to start win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my 
lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda1root=/dev/hda1install=/boot/boot.bmap=/boot/mapvga=normaldelay=20image=/vmlinuz 
label=Linux 
read-onlyother=/dev/hdb1 label=dos

can anyone help me?
Thanx, Sander


Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-24 Thread Jan Muszynski


On 23 Apr 99, at 23:45,  Matt Folwell 
 wrote about Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win:

 On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Brad wrote:
 
  For quite a while, Windows refused to boot at all from lilo. i finally
  solved the problem by using some obscure commands buried deep in TFM.
  Probably you won't need them, but they're here for a reference anyway.
  
other=/dev/hdb1
  table=/dev/hdb
# The map-drive directives make windows think it's on the primary
# master drive instead of the primary slave. Windows would think
# Linux was on the slave if it could see it.
  map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
  map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80
  label=win
  alias=2
 
 Which FM did you find this is?  I've been unable to boot windows from lilo

/usr/docs/lilo/manual.txt.gz (or something like that, case might be off)

 since I moved it (windows) to /dev/hdc.  I'd guess I need to use 0x82 where
 you've used 0x81, but I'd rather make sure before I risk it, and I can't
 see map-drive mentioned in the lilo.conf man page.

You can try it, but you might have a problem booting windows off 
anything other than the first 2 drives. The one thing about MS OS's 
in general (except for NT) they need to boot off of the the primary, 
active partition, and I believe it can be the only primary partition 
visible on the drive.

 
 For a while I was able to boot windows using other=/dev/hdc but this
 suddenly stopped working, saying Missing Operating System  Does anyone
 know what could cause that?

What primary partitions do you have on the first 2 drives? Did this 
change between then and now?

TTFN
 
 TIA,
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Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-24 Thread Matt Folwell
On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 09:39:12PM -0400, Jan Muszynski wrote:
 
 
 On 23 Apr 99, at 23:45,  Matt Folwell 
  wrote about Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win:

  Which FM did you find this is?  I've been unable to boot windows from lilo
 
 /usr/docs/lilo/manual.txt.gz (or something like that, case might be off)

D'oh!  Now why didn't I think of that?

  since I moved it (windows) to /dev/hdc.  I'd guess I need to use 0x82 where
  you've used 0x81, but I'd rather make sure before I risk it, and I can't
  see map-drive mentioned in the lilo.conf man page.
 
 You can try it, but you might have a problem booting windows off 
 anything other than the first 2 drives. The one thing about MS OS's 
 in general (except for NT) they need to boot off of the the primary, 
 active partition, and I believe it can be the only primary partition 
 visible on the drive.
 
  
  For a while I was able to boot windows using other=/dev/hdc but this
  suddenly stopped working, saying Missing Operating System  Does anyone
  know what could cause that?
 
 What primary partitions do you have on the first 2 drives? Did this 
 change between then and now?

It works now, thanks.  I did need 0x81, which I suppose is consistent
with my bios setup - of ide-0, -1, -2 and -3 I have to use ide-1 to boot
the second hard drive, even though it's the third ide device.

Maybe I should have given more details of my setup:
/dev/hda has 2 primary partitions for linux- / and swap, and an extended
partition with a few linux partitions and one fat32 one.
/dev/hdb is my cd rom drive
/dev/hdc has my primary win95 partition and another swap partition for
linux (also primary)

Anyway, either of these entries in lilo.conf will now boot windows:

other=/dev/hdc
label=Win95
  map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
  map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80

other=/dev/hdc1
label=Win2
table=/dev/hdc
  map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
  map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80

I wonder which is better.
I also now have 2 boot menus to go through before windows loads, and
they both default to linux :-)

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Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-23 Thread Matt Folwell
On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Brad wrote:

 For quite a while, Windows refused to boot at all from lilo. i finally
 solved the problem by using some obscure commands buried deep in TFM.
 Probably you won't need them, but they're here for a reference anyway.
 
   other=/dev/hdb1
 table=/dev/hdb
   # The map-drive directives make windows think it's on the primary
   # master drive instead of the primary slave. Windows would think
   # Linux was on the slave if it could see it.
 map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
 map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
 label=win
 alias=2

Which FM did you find this is?  I've been unable to boot windows from lilo
since I moved it (windows) to /dev/hdc.  I'd guess I need to use 0x82 where
you've used 0x81, but I'd rather make sure before I risk it, and I can't
see map-drive mentioned in the lilo.conf man page.

For a while I was able to boot windows using other=/dev/hdc but this
suddenly stopped working, saying Missing Operating System  Does anyone
know what could cause that?

TIA,
Matt

-- 
Matt Folwell, Trinity College, Cambridge.  CB2 1TQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-22 Thread Brad
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, H C Pumphrey wrote:
 
 Greetings, fellow  Debian fans,

Greetings (:

 This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to
 RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc on a W95 laptop prior to using
 FIPS to re-partition it so I can put Debian on it as well[1]. W95 defrag
 will move a lot of stuff (which it colours turquoise) to the beginning of
 the disc, but

One piece of advice: back up everything you want to keep! i used fips on
my Win98 FAT32 drive at one point, and even though it didn't appear to
wreck anything Windoze refused to start until i restored from a backup i
made (in my case it was easy, two HDs). Second piece of advice: don't use
the M$ backup to do it, if you need to use the CD to boot it makes you
reinstall windows before it'll read the thing no matter what.

[[[SNIP]]]
 A related question: the Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO says that if you have FAT32
 you should not try using LILO. Is this info up-to-date? What about the
 business about the Linux boot partition having to start below sector 1024
 (assuming LILO can be used ).

i have no trouble using lilo with Linux+Win98's FAT32. My setup is for a
two-drive system, but it _should_ work for a single drive multi-partition
system. In my setup, the Linux drive is hda (on partition hda2), while
windows is on hdb (partition hdb1)

The Linux section of my lilo.conf is vanilla:

  image=/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda2
label=Linux
read-only
alias=1

For quite a while, Windows refused to boot at all from lilo. i finally
solved the problem by using some obscure commands buried deep in TFM.
Probably you won't need them, but they're here for a reference anyway.

  other=/dev/hdb1
table=/dev/hdb
  # The map-drive directives make windows think it's on the primary
  # master drive instead of the primary slave. Windows would think
  # Linux was on the slave if it could see it.
map-drive = 0x80
  to = 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
  to = 0x80
label=win
alias=2

 [1] Yes I know. I should nuke W95 entirely, but I want to be sure that (a)
 I never use it and (b) all the hardware works OK in Linux.

Understandable, i did the same thing. I only use windows now when
extenuating circumstances force me (i.e. i need the windows-only printer
diagnostics). Windows was quite helpful in verifying my hardware settings,
especially the soundcard and printer. Although it turned out they were
exactly as i would have suspected from the docs.

 [2] Not sure how to find this out. 

To find if it's a FAT32? You should be able to right click on the drive
icon in windows and look in the properties. Or else, a good partitioning
program should tell you.