moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-29 Thread Israel Garcia
Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
other server. Is it possible?

I've searched the web with no success.

thanks.

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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-30 Thread Javier Barroso
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Israel Garcia  wrote:
> Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
> inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
> other server. Is it possible?

- Create LV in VG2 with the same size from LVs in VG1
- cat /dev/VG1/lv1 | ssh server2 "cat > /dev/VG2/lv1"

If you want to know thoughput use pv and not cat

Of course you can script it to do it in a for bucle ... with awk help :) ...

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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-30 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Friday 30 October 2009 06:01:21 Israel Garcia, vous avez écrit :
> Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
> inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
> other server. Is it possible?
> 
> I've searched the web with no success.
> 
> thanks.

You also have the option to go through a big external disk :
1) plug the external disk in your server 1

2) add the disque to VG1
- pvcreate /dev/sdXY (the external drive, or a partition on the external 
drive)
- vgextend VG1 /dev/sdXY

3) move the data to the external disk with pvmove (2 solutions)
- pvmove -n LV1 /dev/sdXY for each LV or
- pvmove /dev/sdAB /dev/sdXY for each PV in VG1 (if there is only one, 
it's just one command comparing to solution 1)

4) deactivate VG1 on server 1
 - vgchange -a n VG1 (you can delete it after, I don't think it's wise to 
delete it now)

5) unplug the external drive, and plug it to server 2

6) add the PV on the external drive to VG2 on server 2
- vgextend VG2 /dev/sdXY (perhaps a pvscan will be needed ?)

7) Move the data to the disks of VG2
- pvmove /dev/sdXY (no destination needed, except if you really want where 
to put the data)

8) remove the PV of external drive
- vgreduce VG2 /dev/sdXY

9) you're done ! Unplug the external drive.


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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:24:57AM +0100, Javier Barroso wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Israel Garcia  wrote:
> > Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
> > inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
> > other server. Is it possible?
> 
> - Create LV in VG2 with the same size from LVs in VG1
> - cat /dev/VG1/lv1 | ssh server2 "cat > /dev/VG2/lv1"

also, never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of
{magnetic tape | harddrives | thumbdrives}. In other words, if the amount of
data is significant enough, the best solution can be to physically move
the data instead of trying to shove it through a skinny pipe
(skinniness of said pipe being inversely proportional to the amount of
data).

A


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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-30 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 07:54:22PM +0100, Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> Le Friday 30 October 2009 06:01:21 Israel Garcia, vous avez écrit :
> > Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
> > inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
> > other server. Is it possible?
> > 
> > I've searched the web with no success.
> > 
> > thanks.
> 
> You also have the option to go through a big external disk :
> 1) plug the external disk in your server 1
> 
> 2) add the disque to VG1
> - pvcreate /dev/sdXY (the external drive, or a partition on the external 
> drive)
> - vgextend VG1 /dev/sdXY
> 
> 3) move the data to the external disk with pvmove (2 solutions)
> - pvmove -n LV1 /dev/sdXY for each LV or
> - pvmove /dev/sdAB /dev/sdXY for each PV in VG1 (if there is only one, 
> it's just one command comparing to solution 1)

aren't you missing a step to that the pv out of the vggroup ?

> 
> 4) deactivate VG1 on server 1
>  - vgchange -a n VG1 (you can delete it after, I don't think it's wise to 
> delete it now)
> 
> 5) unplug the external drive, and plug it to server 2
> 
> 6) add the PV on the external drive to VG2 on server 2
> - vgextend VG2 /dev/sdXY (perhaps a pvscan will be needed ?)
> 
> 7) Move the data to the disks of VG2
> - pvmove /dev/sdXY (no destination needed, except if you really want 
> where 
> to put the data)
> 
> 8) remove the PV of external drive
> - vgreduce VG2 /dev/sdXY
> 
> 9) you're done ! Unplug the external drive.



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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-30 Thread Carl Johnson
Israel Garcia  writes:

> Sorry if it's OT, but we have a debian lenny with a big VG1 a some LVs
> inside and want to move all LV's  from VG1 to another VG2 located in
> other server. Is it possible?
>
> I've searched the web with no success.

It looks like you could just use pvmove to move the data.  I haven't
tried this, so you will have to look at the other lvm commands to see
if any other steps are required.

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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-31 Thread Gilles Mocellin
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 07:12:10AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:

[...]

> > 3) move the data to the external disk with pvmove (2 solutions)
> > - pvmove -n LV1 /dev/sdXY for each LV or
> > - pvmove /dev/sdAB /dev/sdXY for each PV in VG1 (if there is only one, 
> > it's just one command comparing to solution 1)
> 
> aren't you missing a step to that the pv out of the vggroup ?

Yes, it's possible.
- vgreduce VG1 /dev/sdXY

But, if he deletes VG1 after, it's not necessary to remove the PV.

> > 4) deactivate VG1 on server 1
> >  - vgchange -a n VG1 (you can delete it after, I don't think it's wise 
> > to 
> > delete it now)

[...]

Unless you speak about the PV on the external disk.
Here, I must admit that I don't know if the data will be still there if
we do a vgreduce of the PV containing it.

I will do a test, as I want to know if what I said is possible !
Soon here.


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Re: moving lv from local VG to a remote VG

2009-10-31 Thread Gilles Mocellin
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:57:33AM +0100, Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 07:12:10AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > 3) move the data to the external disk with pvmove (2 solutions)
> > > - pvmove -n LV1 /dev/sdXY for each LV or
> > > - pvmove /dev/sdAB /dev/sdXY for each PV in VG1 (if there is only 
> > > one, 
> > > it's just one command comparing to solution 1)
> > 
> > aren't you missing a step to that the pv out of the vggroup ?
> 
> Yes, it's possible.
> - vgreduce VG1 /dev/sdXY
> 
> But, if he deletes VG1 after, it's not necessary to remove the PV.
> 
> > > 4) deactivate VG1 on server 1
> > >  - vgchange -a n VG1 (you can delete it after, I don't think it's 
> > > wise to 
> > > delete it now)
> 
> [...]
> 
> Unless you speak about the PV on the external disk.
> Here, I must admit that I don't know if the data will be still there if
> we do a vgreduce of the PV containing it.
> 
> I will do a test, as I want to know if what I said is possible !
> Soon here.

Well, it's not so easy.

Adding a PV with data to a VG does not bring the metadata and does not
make the LVs visible.

I manage to transfert LV via pvmove this way :

1) vgsplit to isolate the LVs to move in a separate VG (VGTEMP). If you want to 
move all the LVs,
no need to vgsplit.

2) Add a new PV to VGTEMP from an external drive (Here, I've just think you can
use a network exported block device, like nbd, iscsi, aoe)

3) pvmove from local PV to the external one

4) vgexport VGTEMP

5) move the external drive (or unexport/reexport the network block device)

6) pvscan eventually and vgimport VGTEMP

7) vgmerge VG2 VGTEMP

6) pvmove from external drive to local drives

7) vgreduce VG2 to remove external drive

I don't really think that this method is faster than a raw copy of the LV
block devices...


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