Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
Doug wrote: > I am primarily a PCLOS user, and I also have > Mint 17 LTS. I can tell you that it is very > tricky to get a Broadcom wireless interface > to work on PCLOS, but on the Mint system it > works "out of the box" with no installation > whatever. So what I can say is that you may > need some extra software from Broadcom to get > your Deb wireless to work, and it may be > difficult. Or you could get Mint and probably > have no trouble! This is not a free plug, > just some information for you. Wireless is not necessary for this laptop, only Internet thru the Ethernet port. Is this influenced anyhow by the missing wireless firmware? If it isn't, I'm all the happy to drop the issue. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
On 08/10/2017 07:11 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Dejan Jocic wrote: Also, you mentioned that you need your ethernet to work, these b43 packages are for Broadcom wireless cards. Yes, that is what I meant in my OP, the lacking firmware for wireless should not influence Ethernet not working, right? Anyway, to manually install it seems unnecessary complicated, so I think I'll try the ISO with the non-free firmware included. Whatever that you choose to do, do not forget to check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add contrib and non-free after main wherever it is needed, something like this: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free Yes, with Internet working it'll be no problems setting up the system. I am primarily a PCLOS user, and I also have Mint 17 LTS. I can tell you that it is very tricky to get a Broadcom wireless interface to work on PCLOS, but on the Mint system it works "out of the box" with no installation whatever. So what I can say is that you may need some extra software from Broadcom to get your Deb wireless to work, and it may be difficult. Or you could get Mint and probably have no trouble! This is not a free plug, just some information for you. --doug
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
Dejan Jocic wrote: > Also, you mentioned that you need your > ethernet to work, these b43 packages are for > Broadcom wireless cards. Yes, that is what I meant in my OP, the lacking firmware for wireless should not influence Ethernet not working, right? Anyway, to manually install it seems unnecessary complicated, so I think I'll try the ISO with the non-free firmware included. > Whatever that you choose to do, do not forget > to check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and > add contrib and non-free after main wherever > it is needed, something like this: > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main > contrib non-free Yes, with Internet working it'll be no problems setting up the system. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
On 10-08-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > Also, once, for reason unknown to me, > > firmware from usb did not work, but installer > > with firmware on it did. Could be that it was > > USB fault, though not sure about it. > > Was using that USB without problem > > after that. > > What should I do with the installer? > > Do you mean this file: > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-b43-installer/download > > ? > > -- > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 > No, I meant downloading installer with firmware included, like for example this one for Jessie: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/archive/8.9.0+nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/ and this one for Stretch https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/multi-arch/iso-cd/ Those are multiarch net install CDs that will work both for 32-bit and 64-bit PCs. You just need to choose your arch when you boot into installer. But, if you do not want to download and use those and that downloaded firmware did not work for you, you can download just those packages that you need and install them with dpkg. But you will have to do same with dependencies of those packages. Also, you mentioned that you need your ethernet to work, these b43 packages are for Broadcom wireless cards. Whatever that you choose to do, do not forget to check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add contrib and non-free after main wherever it is needed, something like this: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free Hope that this helps.
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
Dejan Jocic wrote: > Also, once, for reason unknown to me, > firmware from usb did not work, but installer > with firmware on it did. Could be that it was > USB fault, though not sure about it. > Was using that USB without problem > after that. What should I do with the installer? Do you mean this file: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-b43-installer/download ? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
On 09-08-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > Well, you should have write down what was > > missing during installation, those messages > > you get for reason. Also, when you have > > firmware and you get note that it is missing, > > it is best to abort installation and download > > needed firmware and put in USB you can insert > > during installation. > > Well, I can redo the installation! > > Actually I just tried that, and what is missing > is b43/ucode13.fw . > > I downloaded this archive [1] and copied the > files (the archive as well as all the files, > unpacked) onto a USB stick. > > However inserting it didn't help because after > a short while of "looking" (?) the same error > message came up again. > > [1] > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/jessie/current/firmware.zip > > -- > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 > Did you check among those files if there is firmware that you need? Also, if you have another USB stick, just to be sure, try with it too? >From quick search in debian packages, these are all related to b43: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-b43-installer https://packages.debian.org/jessie/b43-fwcutter https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-b43legacy-installer So check if your hardware is related to any of those. Also, once, for reason unknown to me, firmware from usb did not work, but installer with firmware on it did. Could be that it was USB fault, though not sure about it. Was using that USB without problem after that.
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
Dejan Jocic wrote: > Well, you should have write down what was > missing during installation, those messages > you get for reason. Also, when you have > firmware and you get note that it is missing, > it is best to abort installation and download > needed firmware and put in USB you can insert > during installation. Well, I can redo the installation! Actually I just tried that, and what is missing is b43/ucode13.fw . I downloaded this archive [1] and copied the files (the archive as well as all the files, unpacked) onto a USB stick. However inserting it didn't help because after a short while of "looking" (?) the same error message came up again. [1] http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/jessie/current/firmware.zip -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
Re: no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
On 09-08-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I installed a 32-bit Debian on an HP laptop the > other day, and during installation it said > non-free components were not installed as not > on the disc, for political reasons I suppose, > and then the network couldn't be set up > correctly despite the cable in place. > > When done, I couldn't get Internet to work > despite doing as superuser 'dhclient eth0' > which is all it takes on my other Debian, which > I also installed from a DVD. > > So I wonder, are the Ethernet problems related > to the missing firmware? > > And if not, what seems to be the problem? > > TIA > > -- > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 > Well, you should have write down what was missing during installation, those messages you get for reason. Also, when you have firmware and you get note that it is missing, it is best to abort installation and download needed firmware and put in USB you can insert during installation. Or, to use one of the "unnofficial" images with firmware on it: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ That said, now first step would be to check your network cards and what drivers are in use. As regular user do: lspci -v | grep -A10 -i net If you type that as root change A10 to A15.
no non-free firmware on lapton, no Ethernet, related?
I installed a 32-bit Debian on an HP laptop the other day, and during installation it said non-free components were not installed as not on the disc, for political reasons I suppose, and then the network couldn't be set up correctly despite the cable in place. When done, I couldn't get Internet to work despite doing as superuser 'dhclient eth0' which is all it takes on my other Debian, which I also installed from a DVD. So I wonder, are the Ethernet problems related to the missing firmware? And if not, what seems to be the problem? TIA -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
