Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 10:10:06 +1100 Andrew McGlashan
 wrote:

> 
> 
> On 22/02/2016 2:02 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:59:26 + Lisi Reisz 
> > wrote:
> > And how is password-protection incompatible with free software
> > principles anyway?
> 
> It's not /really/ free if it needs me to login to access the
> resources.
> 
> A.
> 

Hence rms' early anti-password campaign.



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-21 Thread Andrew McGlashan


On 22/02/2016 2:02 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:59:26 + Lisi Reisz 
> wrote:
> And how is password-protection incompatible with free software
> principles anyway?

It's not /really/ free if it needs me to login to access the resources.

A.



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016, Steve Kleene wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:12:15 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in
> > the first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my
> > 64-bit Wheezy system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it
> > works.  Maybe, it's because I don't use or have installed any
> > desktop. Just use a window manager, Openbox.
> 
> I'm the OP.  I don't know when the feature got turned off, but I also
> use just a windowing system (fvwm).  I also wasn't using Tor.

Just an isolated event then.  No one else seems to have it.  Guess
we'll never really know the cause.  At least, iceweasel is working
correctly now.

B



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-21 Thread Adam Wilson
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:59:26 + Lisi Reisz 
wrote:

> On Saturday 20 February 2016 16:17:22 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 21/02/2016 2:12 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);
> > >
> > > When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web
> > > pages worked properly.
> > >
> > > The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some
> > > security shortcomings:
> > >
> > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issu
> >
> > es_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB
> >
> > Please
> >
> > provide a link that is consistent with FOSS principles; no
> > login requirement.
> 
> I didn't have to log in.
> 
> Lisi

And how is password-protection incompatible with free software
principles anyway?



nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-21 Thread Steve Kleene
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:12:15 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in the
> first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my 64-bit Wheezy
> system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it works.  Maybe, it's
> because I don't use or have installed any desktop. Just use a window
> manager, Openbox.

I'm the OP.  I don't know when the feature got turned off, but I also use
just a windowing system (fvwm).  I also wasn't using Tor.



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016, Andrew McGlashan wrote:

> 
> On 21/02/2016 3:47 AM, Reco wrote:
> > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stefan_Kimak/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issues_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB/links/55d3438208ae0b8f3ef92886.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

This displays perfectly both in Chrome and Iceweasel.  No login
required.

> Okay, thanks, a reload of the page yeilded the /right/ result.
 
What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in the
first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my 64-bit Wheezy
system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it works.  Maybe, it's
because I don't use or have installed any desktop. Just use a window
manager, Openbox.

> Also using Tor

I'm not.

B



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 February 2016 16:17:22 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Hi,
>
> On 21/02/2016 2:12 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);
> >
> > When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web
> > pages worked properly.
> >
> > The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some
> > security shortcomings:
> >
> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issu
>
> es_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB
>
> Please
>
> provide a link that is consistent with FOSS principles; no
> login requirement.

I didn't have to log in.

Lisi
>
> > The databases that various servers create are stored in the sqlite
> > files under my iceweasel profile.  I may clear those out from time
> > to time.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded.
>
> Thanks
> AndrewM
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Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan

On 21/02/2016 3:47 AM, Reco wrote:
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stefan_Kimak/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issues_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB/links/55d3438208ae0b8f3ef92886.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

Okay, thanks, a reload of the page yeilded the /right/ result.


Also using Tor

Cheers
AndrewM



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 03:17:22 +1100
Andrew McGlashan  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 21/02/2016 2:12 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);
> > 
> > When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web
> > pages worked properly.
> > 
> > The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some
> > security shortcomings:
> > 
> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issu
> es_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB
> 
> Please
> > 
> provide a link that is consistent with FOSS principles; no
> login requirement.

That link works for me without any authentication if I use Tor.
The link to PDF download with "full text" (whatever they mean by it) is:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stefan_Kimak/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issues_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB/links/55d3438208ae0b8f3ef92886.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

An interesting read btw. Thanks, Steve.

Reco



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Hi,

On 21/02/2016 2:12 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:
> user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);
> 
> When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web
> pages worked properly.
> 
> The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some
> security shortcomings:
> 
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issu
es_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB

Please
> 
provide a link that is consistent with FOSS principles; no
login requirement.

> The databases that various servers create are stored in the sqlite
> files under my iceweasel profile.  I may clear those out from time
> to time.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who responded.

Thanks
AndrewM
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Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

2016-02-20 Thread Steve Kleene
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:13:26 -0500, I wrote:

>> A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel, e.g.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109
>>
>> If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I don't
>> guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask if I want
>> to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html
>>
>> I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format these 
>> pages
>> use or why they are failing?

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:04:18 +0100, Sven Arvidsson  replied:

> You could try starting Iceweasel with -P and create a new profile. If
> it works there, something is wrong in your normal profile.

I moved my ~/.mozilla directory away, called mozilla, and got a new, very
simple profile.  Its prefs.js file was much shorter.  By brute force, I
edited out lines that were only in my old prefs.js file until I found the
responsible line:

user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);

When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web pages worked
properly.

The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some security
shortcomings:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issues_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB

The databases that various servers create are stored in the sqlite files
under my iceweasel profile.  I may clear those out from time to time.

Thanks to everyone who responded.



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-20 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2016-02-19 at 21:13 -0500, Steve Kleene wrote:
> A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel,
> e.g.
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#
> /factcheck-109
> 
> If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I
> don't
> guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask
> if I want
> to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:

You could try starting Iceweasel with -P and create a new profile. If
it works there, something is wrong in your normal profile.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-19 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 09:13:26PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote:
> A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel, e.g.
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109
> 
> If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I don't
> guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask if I want
> to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html
> 
> I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format these pages
> use or why they are failing?

38.6.1 (under jessie tho, not wheezy), everything works fine. Maybe
you have javascript disabled?



Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Steve Kleene wrote:

> A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel,
> e.g.
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109
>
> If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I
> don't guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they
> ask if I want to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other
> examples:

Loads just fine here.  "Read More" works, too.

> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html

Both links works.  Loads the pages.  No anomalies notes.

> I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format
> these pages use or why they are failing?

My version, too, 64-bit.  Ditto Wheezy.  However, I'm only running a
window manager -- Openbox.  Don't have any desktops installed.

B



nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

2016-02-19 Thread Steve Kleene
A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel, e.g.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109

If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I don't
guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask if I want
to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html

I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format these pages
use or why they are failing?

Thanks.