Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:07:59 + (UTC) Camaleón napísal: > > The lazarus metapackage loads the gtk2 variant of the ide. Any thoughts > > about the qt4 variant? (I'm inclined to go with the metapackage if I do > > this, QT has never been anything but opaque to me, so far.) > > Can't comment on the packages themselves, sorry, I never used Lazarus/ > Freepascal before but this is what users recommend as a replacement for > TurboPascal. I was playing with it and using in my school to tech students some years ago and i translated the Lazarus GUI. The Lazarus is Delphi 6 replacement. The developers goal is to provide full compatibility (not in code, but only functional) replacement of the mentioned Delphi 6. It is based on FreePascal, which is not TurboPascal replacement, but provides full (and modern) OOP ObjectPascal. The Lazarus Qt IDE is not packaged in Debian yet - it provides empty package, which depends on the GTK only. I was playing with Qt3 and Lazarus IDE and it was working for me, after some tweaking - there was wiki about it. IMHO, the main advantage of the Lazarus and the FreePascal is, that they both provides full portability. They works on Linux and Windows too, and there is possible to crosscompile (i never tried it) apps. Main disadvantage is, that any Lazarus application contains full LCL (Lazarus Component Library). Yes any, the "Hello world" too and then simple apps binaries are too big (some MB). There are some apps (GUI and nonGUI) builded with FreePascal (and maybe with Lazarus too) in debian repo, try to find - i don't remember them - to see effect. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:27:46 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On 8/15/12, Camaleón wrote: >> How about Free Pascal and the Lazarus IDE? As I have understood, it's >> the linux counterpart for Turbo Pascal :-? > > Hmm. > > Breaking out synaptic, I see that there are metapackages for lazarus and > freepascal. A quick note about this. I don't recall what debian flavour you're running but if you finally decide to give these applications a chance, ensure you install the latest available versions (wheezy/sid should be fine but squeze may include an old release; if that's the case, the upstream project usually provide updated precompiled packages for many distributions). > The lazarus metapackage loads the gtk2 variant of the ide. Any thoughts > about the qt4 variant? (I'm inclined to go with the metapackage if I do > this, QT has never been anything but opaque to me, so far.) Can't comment on the packages themselves, sorry, I never used Lazarus/ Freepascal before but this is what users recommend as a replacement for TurboPascal. > Wow! 109M download, 691M of disk space expected to be used. Wow, that's *a lot*. > Well, I do have the free space, and I see that part of that is gdb and > other dev stuff I need anyway. Consider installing that big amount of data in a virtual machine instead filling up your disk in a very insane way because if you finally don't like it, it's easier to delete a VM than having to remove those packages ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lq8v$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
bwbasic is available along with g77 and a few versions of forth. There's a fortran95 system that can be downloaded outside of debian that does graphics and works on windows systems too and if the person you're trying to help is engineering-bound, forth is a good language to pick up. Julian V. Noble wrote a book called "Scientific Forth" which ought to help out quite a bit. On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Joel Rees wrote: > On 8/15/12, Camale?n wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his > >> high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology > >> prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing > >> the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by > >> rote. > >> > >> heh. > >> > >> Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop > >> through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of > >> course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. > > > > (...) > > > > How about Free Pascal and the Lazarus IDE? As I have understood, it's the > > linux counterpart for Turbo Pascal :-? > > Hmm. > > Breaking out synaptic, I see that there are metapackages for lazarus > and freepascal. > > The lazarus metapackage loads the gtk2 variant of the ide. Any > thoughts about the qt4 variant? (I'm inclined to go with the > metapackage if I do this, QT has never been anything but opaque to me, > so far.) > > Wow! 109M download, 691M of disk space expected to be used. > > Well, I do have the free space, and I see that part of that is gdb and > other dev stuff I need anyway. > > > Greetings, > > > > -- > > Camale?n > > > > -- > Joel Rees > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/caar43ip1xosjacqn9q9jsbnmdwwdt+vci8c2_aaqkhtfehy...@mail.gmail.com > > Support your local church or synagogue, worship at Bank Of America! Jude <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1208170025330.11...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On 8/15/12, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > >> I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his >> high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology >> prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing >> the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by >> rote. >> >> heh. >> >> Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop >> through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of >> course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. > > (...) > > How about Free Pascal and the Lazarus IDE? As I have understood, it's the > linux counterpart for Turbo Pascal :-? Hmm. Breaking out synaptic, I see that there are metapackages for lazarus and freepascal. The lazarus metapackage loads the gtk2 variant of the ide. Any thoughts about the qt4 variant? (I'm inclined to go with the metapackage if I do this, QT has never been anything but opaque to me, so far.) Wow! 109M download, 691M of disk space expected to be used. Well, I do have the free space, and I see that part of that is gdb and other dev stuff I need anyway. > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ip1xosjacqn9q9jsbnmdwwdt+vci8c2_aaqkhtfehy...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his > high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology > prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing > the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by > rote. > > heh. > > Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop > through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of > course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. (...) How about Free Pascal and the Lazarus IDE? As I have understood, it's the linux counterpart for Turbo Pascal :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0e1gm$vu0$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On 08/13/2012 09:32 AM, Joel Rees wrote: I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by rote. heh. Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. He enjoyed playing with the graphical equation solver on the old Mac. Maybe it spoiled him. But he would get a lot more motivated, I think, if he could plot the numbers, watch the equation step through and plot the numbers in 2D on a window on the screen like you could do with the old BASIC+graphics commands or Turbo Pascal. Logo is too abstract. Sugar's Pippy activity looks possible, but how well does Sugar run on Squeeze? Is Pippy useable? Any other suggestions? Does TLC+TK have some simple mode that can do equation-like stuff? Python or Haskell, or whatever, with some graphics package that doesn't take too much code just to get a graphical window up? -- Joel Rees Turbo Pascal will run under Wine, and so will George Washington (GW) BASIC, which is identical to Microsoft BASIC. I don't know how to get real graphics with GW BASIC. I'm not familiar with COCO BASIC. EUREKA will also run under Wine. Both Turbo and Eureka were Borland products, and neither has been made in at least 15 years. The imitation EUREKA, Mercury, was written by the same fellow who wrote EUREKA, but was never properly debugged, so I don't recommend it, even tho it was free, and might be available somewhere. EUREKA is very helpful, altho I don't know if it has any graphical output. I do know that GIGO, so you have to be careful what you feed it. For a modern computer program that is not too difficult to learn, try Python, which is free, as is the instruction manual. Note that there are two versions in common use, and version 3.0 is not compatible with earlier versions, so be careful what you download as to software and instructions. Fo instructions, there is a good tutorial called "Snake Wrangling for Kids" by Jason R. Briggs--also available in two versions. In spite of the title, it's not just for kids, and it's pretty thorough. Both Turbo and Python are modern-style languages that will make the programmer avoid the "spaghetti code" that BAIC writers frequently fall into. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502a8490.9090...@optonline.net
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
Joel Rees wrote: I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by rote. heh. Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. He enjoyed playing with the graphical equation solver on the old Mac. Maybe it spoiled him. But he would get a lot more motivated, I think, if he could plot the numbers, watch the equation step through and plot the numbers in 2D on a window on the screen like you could do with the old BASIC+graphics commands or Turbo Pascal. Logo is too abstract. Sugar's Pippy activity looks possible, but how well does Sugar run on Squeeze? Is Pippy useable? Any other suggestions? Does TLC+TK have some simple mode that can do equation-like stuff? Python or Haskell, or whatever, with some graphics package that doesn't take too much code just to get a graphical window up? -- Joel Rees The TCL wiki may give you some ideas. http://www.google.com/search?q=equation+solve+site:wiki.tcl.tk http://www.google.com/search?q=equation+solver+site:wiki.tcl.tk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502990f9.4010...@cloud85.net
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Joel Rees writes: >> Any other suggestions? > > Look at qtoctave and maxima. Yeah, nice stuff, but more of the dog that bit him. I think he's spoiled, in a sense. It's as if he thinks he knows that the computer will figure all that hard stuff out for him, so he is entirely unmotivated to understand the necessity of working through the fundamental algebra. And the excessive emphasis on rote learning in the Japanese schools doesn't help at all. The whole problem is that, if he takes the time to understand one difficult problem, he won't have time to do that with every problem, so he's scared to actually take the time to understand his math and physics homework. I'm looking for something that he could single-step through and watch the function being analyzed and each point being drawn. Preferably by code that he wrote himself. I think the old perl/tk tutorials on the perl/tk site may do the job. (Although, looking at this idea in the cold light of morning, I'm going to have to be really careful how I approach this, so he doesn't feel forced.) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43inlz7xu1uvif0avl6nvbqjrpoqpqq2arzvksf1wp30...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
Hello Joel, Joel Rees wrote: > Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop > through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of > course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. > > He enjoyed playing with the graphical equation solver on the old Mac. > Maybe it spoiled him. But he would get a lot more motivated, I think, > if he could plot the numbers, watch the equation step through and plot > the numbers in 2D on a window on the screen like you could do with the > old BASIC+graphics commands or Turbo Pascal. If you are only interested in plotting equations etc., maybe having a look at gnuplot, which has dedicated Python bindings in Debian, would be sensible. Of course, gnuplot is no complete graphical environment, but if I understood your problem correctly, it should be the easiest solution available. If you decide to spend some money, I’d like to suggest Mathematica, which has a very rich feature set and a nice programming language. Maple also is quite nice, but IMHO lacks some of Mathematica’s features. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
Joel Rees writes: > Any other suggestions? Look at qtoctave and maxima. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lihi6fjr@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan and has trouble seeing the reasons for the methods of solution they are trying to teach him by rote. heh. Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. He enjoyed playing with the graphical equation solver on the old Mac. Maybe it spoiled him. But he would get a lot more motivated, I think, if he could plot the numbers, watch the equation step through and plot the numbers in 2D on a window on the screen like you could do with the old BASIC+graphics commands or Turbo Pascal. Logo is too abstract. Sugar's Pippy activity looks possible, but how well does Sugar run on Squeeze? Is Pippy useable? Any other suggestions? Does TLC+TK have some simple mode that can do equation-like stuff? Python or Haskell, or whatever, with some graphics package that doesn't take too much code just to get a graphical window up? -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ioagpufaxslnpdp14zyzpem+dk+ljtwndwx+hu37we...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to fold code using pascal-mode in Emacs?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just want to fold some (very) large for-loops to see the code > clearerly. Try: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/CategoryHideStuff -- ,''`. : :' :Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `. `' http://people.debian.org/~rfrancoise/ `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to fold code using pascal-mode in Emacs?
Hi. I have searched in the Emacs manual (I really use Emacs since two weeks ago), and then I also searched in google, but I haven't found any way to fold code in Emacs (I am using the pascal-mode, although I don't know wether folding code depends on the mode that one is using or not). I just want to fold some (very) large for-loops to see the code clearerly. Can I get that lines that appears, for example, in Kate to fold code, to show clearly where, for example, a for-loop begins and where ends? (I mean that lines that, for example, in a for-loop connect its beginning with its end, in the left side of the code). TIA. = El ESPERANTO, la lengua internacional, fue creado en 1887 por el médico polaco L. L. Zamenhof. Info: http://www.esperanto.net = Debian GNU/Linux: "La potencia definitiva del universo." http://www.debian.org __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Borland Kylix on Linux - Both Pascal and a C compiler
Hi
It's nice of Borland to be so nice, but I must agree with Dale. Although
both may be included in the package, I don't believe that you can mix
languages. I know that Kylix/Delphi can do cross compiling between C and
delphi(new name for pascal) for its object file, but the languages still
uses different compilers. Why would you like to include the C headers?
Delphi uses units and components. If you wan't to use a functionality,
include the component by just dropping it on the form, or if you want to
use a feature, go to the top of you source file and add the units which
includes the functionality in the uses clause. You can use the help file
to find the spesific needed units.
I have rarely touched that uses clause. Only in some database
applications.
Tinus
On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 08:10, S Yuval wrote:
> Actually, Kylix comes with both a Pascal compiler and a C++ compiler. It's
> shipped in the same bundle, but the uses different startup scripts (startbcb
> for a "C++ Builder" like environment and "startdelphi" for a Pascal like
> environment).
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dale Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "S Yuval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Borland Kylix on Linux
>
>
> > You do realize that kylix is a pascal and not a c compiler...?
> > stdio.h is a c header file... not going to work.
> > in kylix you would have something closer to
> >
> > program hello(input,output);
> > begin
> > writeln('hello');
> > end.
> >
> > however because it is actually much more than just a pascal compiler, it
> > gets much more complicated.
> > :-)
> >
> > ---dale
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: S Yuval
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 8:38 PM
> > Subject: Borland Kylix on Linux
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to use Borland Kylix for Linux to write a simple "Hello World!"
> > program. I have installed it in single user mode, in my home directory,
> > skipping the RPM installation and using the binary tarball archive
> directly.
> > The development environment runs, but when I include stdio.h, I get an
> > indefinite list of complaints about syntax errors concerning preprocessor
> > directives in the file. Does this mean that Kylix is incompatible with
> the
> > GNU libraries? can anyone suggest a remedy?
> >
>
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Re: Borland Kylix on Linux - Both Pascal and a C compiler
Actually, Kylix comes with both a Pascal compiler and a C++ compiler. It's
shipped in the same bundle, but the uses different startup scripts (startbcb
for a "C++ Builder" like environment and "startdelphi" for a Pascal like
environment).
- Original Message -
From: "Dale Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "S Yuval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Borland Kylix on Linux
> You do realize that kylix is a pascal and not a c compiler...?
> stdio.h is a c header file... not going to work.
> in kylix you would have something closer to
>
> program hello(input,output);
> begin
> writeln('hello');
> end.
>
> however because it is actually much more than just a pascal compiler, it
> gets much more complicated.
> :-)
>
> ---dale
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: S Yuval
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 8:38 PM
> Subject: Borland Kylix on Linux
>
>
> I'm trying to use Borland Kylix for Linux to write a simple "Hello World!"
> program. I have installed it in single user mode, in my home directory,
> skipping the RPM installation and using the binary tarball archive
directly.
> The development environment runs, but when I include stdio.h, I get an
> indefinite list of complaints about syntax errors concerning preprocessor
> directives in the file. Does this mean that Kylix is incompatible with
the
> GNU libraries? can anyone suggest a remedy?
>
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(Free Pascal) fp-units-api unstable?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to install Free Pascal on my Debian i386 laptop. However, I want to install the latest version (unstable = 1.0.6-1) and realized that the package fp-units-api is not yet available(the latest version of fp-units-api available is 1.0.4-2). I have a slight suspicion that this may just have been an overlook to upload it (?). I'm cc-ing Carlos Laviola, the package mantainer, hoping this isn't considered to be in bad form. If anyone has a clue what's the story with this package I'd appreciate hearing. Thanks, Eduardo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPl/p0Dk4mu7t0LILEQJ+rgCg+AmmaIBOpAfD0ZZf6wKYMrQzaNAAoMzS 2Gvyin4CX+P5Hcw/Bz+M1LSH =fGCj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pascal
Dixit "Frank Homann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Versuch's mal unter www.dokuwelt.de > > > Frank > www.fhworld.de > >> Hallo Leute, Lern bitte quoten und pack Deine Werbung in eine Signatur. -- "The fact that he relies on facts - says things that are not factual - are going to undermine his campaign." - George Walker Bush in New York Times, March 4, 2000
Re: R: Pascal
marco frattola wrote: > > > I feel your pain. Not only is is not open source, it's *quite* > > expensive, much more so than Windows Delphi. We're talking $1K here, > > for the *less* expensive version. > > there's a rumored free download edition coming out around june (they say). > without db support (i fear) and something else too. > > > Also, there's apparently no driver for Postgresql, so there's no > > connection to a full-featured free database. Needless to > > i think you're wrong here, there's support for interbase, that's free and > opensource. Oh, I forgot they opened that up: http://www.borland.com/devsupport/interbase/opensource/IPL.html I stand corrected. Thanks. > or if you want to go big names, there's support for db2 and > oracle. Erm, my point was "free"... > > > say, Debian is > > not supported either. (Am I the only one who finds it offensive that > > not direct support, but i've seen a message saying that the necessary > patched libc > has been packaged for debian. there's nothing more you need (except X) My point is, there's RPMs but no debs. Really, if they're going to put a picture of a gnu on their site, they ought to do a little better.
R: Pascal
> I feel your pain. Not only is is not open source, it's *quite* > expensive, much more so than Windows Delphi. We're talking $1K here, > for the *less* expensive version. there's a rumored free download edition coming out around june (they say). without db support (i fear) and something else too. > Also, there's apparently no driver for Postgresql, so there's no > connection to a full-featured free database. Needless to i think you're wrong here, there's support for interbase, that's free and opensource. or if you want to go big names, there's support for db2 and oracle. > say, Debian is > not supported either. (Am I the only one who finds it offensive that not direct support, but i've seen a message saying that the necessary patched libc has been packaged for debian. there's nothing more you need (except X) > despite the above, they prominently link to www.fsf.org from the Kylix > page?) > > I can't imagine who Borland is trying to target here. It i'm wondering too > truly pains me > to say that, because I'm a Delphi lover who eagerly anticipated this > product.
Re: Pascal
Have a look at the GPC web site. It has an implementation of the crt unit that is compatible with most Borland Pascal 7 code, and has X extentions also. Should just be a matter of using crt to get it to work. There is also a GPC mailing list, just send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the command subscribe gpc [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the body of the message. The GPC web site is: http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~gnu-pascal/ Pat > hello, > I use gpc also, it runs fine with debian, but how can we obtain the > equivalent of the graphism with Pascal Borland under linux with gpc ? > > (If you like Borland, Pascal 7.01 (for dos) is free, but with the > computers which have a processor >= 300 Mz the unit crt gives error > division per zero. This is a bug corrected by a patch.) > > -- > Gerard > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- === Patrick Ouellette Amateur Radio: KB8PYM mobile/portable 9 (somewhere in 9 land) Debian Linux Developer (as time and family permit) Human? (the jury is still out on this one) === GPG Fingerprint: 8577 CFA7 B984 8E58 0D00 79B6 CFDA 9D82 06A7 376E
Re: Pascal
I feel your pain. Not only is is not open source, it's *quite* expensive, much more so than Windows Delphi. We're talking $1K here, for the *less* expensive version. Also, there's apparently no driver for Postgresql, so there's no connection to a full-featured free database. Needless to say, Debian is not supported either. (Am I the only one who finds it offensive that despite the above, they prominently link to www.fsf.org from the Kylix page?) I can't imagine who Borland is trying to target here. It truly pains me to say that, because I'm a Delphi lover who eagerly anticipated this product. Martin Marconcini wrote: > > Kylyx is not Free... that is the problem. > > anyway... www.borland.com > > Regards, > > Martin. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Keith G. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:15 AM > > To: Debian List > > Subject: Re: Pascal > > > > > > Ales Jerman wrote: > > > > > > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > > > Thanks! > > > > If you are looking for something extremely powerful, but not "classic" > > Pascal, you *do* know about Borland's Kylix project, right? > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't. -- Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center
Re: Pascal
This one looks interesting. http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ -Ryan On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 02:45:02PM +0200, Ales Jerman wrote: > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > Thanks! > Bye, > > Ales > >
Re: Pascal
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:56:50PM +0200, Sebastiaan wrote: > Hi, > > a seach with: apt-cache search pascal gave me the following interesting > packets: > > gpc - The GNU Pascal compiler. > and there is more interesting. I guess you need at least gpc. > > Greetz, > Sebastiaan > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Ales Jerman wrote: > > > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > > Thanks! > > Bye, > > > > Ales hello, I use gpc also, it runs fine with debian, but how can we obtain the equivalent of the graphism with Pascal Borland under linux with gpc ? (If you like Borland, Pascal 7.01 (for dos) is free, but with the computers which have a processor >= 300 Mz the unit crt gives error division per zero. This is a bug corrected by a patch.) -- Gerard
RE: Pascal
Kylyx is not Free... that is the problem. anyway... www.borland.com Regards, Martin. > -Original Message- > From: Keith G. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:15 AM > To: Debian List > Subject: Re: Pascal > > > Ales Jerman wrote: > > > > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > > Thanks! > > If you are looking for something extremely powerful, but not "classic" > Pascal, you *do* know about Borland's Kylix project, right? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Pascal
Ales Jerman wrote: > > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > Thanks! If you are looking for something extremely powerful, but not "classic" Pascal, you *do* know about Borland's Kylix project, right?
Re: Pascal
Ales> I use fp-compiledr and it's dependencies and it works ok! Best Regards, -- Martin Marconcini | Unix, MS-DOS, Windows. | Also known as The Good, The Bad | And the Ugly... --
Re: Pascal
Hi, a seach with: apt-cache search pascal gave me the following interesting packets: gpc-doc - Documentation for the GNU Pascal compiler (gpc). gpc - The GNU Pascal compiler. fp-extra - Free Pascal Extra Packages fp-gtk - Free Pascal GTK Bindings fp-compiler - Free Pascal Compiler fp-rtl - Free Pascal Runtime Library fp-docs - Free Pascal Documentation fp-utils - Free Pascal Utils and there is more interesting. I guess you need at least gpc. Greetz, Sebastiaan On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Ales Jerman wrote: > Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. > Thanks! > Bye, > > Ales > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Pascal
Does anybody know any good pascal compilers? Maybe also for X. Thanks! Bye, Ales
Re: pascal for linux
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Johann Spies wrote: > I have a program called PTOC which I have downloaded more than a year ago. > The README provides an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did > not use it a lot, but it was a lot better than a program called p2c which > was available as a debian package long ago. Thanks for the lead. After a quick AltaVista search, I found Knizhnik's home page at the address below. If you scroll most of the way down, there's a "ANSI/Turbo Pascal to C/C++ converter" section with links to the source in .tar.gz http://www.ispras.ru/~knizhnik/ Hope this helps, Patrick
Re: pascal for linux
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Patrick Olson wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > > > I was looking at porting a pascal program from dos to linux. Besides > > having to write a device driver (as it twiddles the printer port > > directly) I would have to fix all references to the Borland runtime lib > > stuff. I don't think that dosemu would fix all this (does dosemu allow > > direct access to hw?). I think I might just re-write the thing into C > > and have an easier time. (Wasn't there a Pascal-to-C converter package > > somewhere? Thought I saw it in Bo or Hamm) > > I kind of doubt dosemu would be happy about your program trying to access > the hardware directly, but I don't know for sure. There is f2c, a > Fortran-to-C converter, but I am not aware of one for Pascal-to-C. If > you're feeling ambitious, I'm sure no one would mind if you wrote a > converter. Wish I could help, but I don't really know programming. I have a program called PTOC which I have downloaded more than a year ago. The README provides an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not use it a lot, but it was a lot better than a program called p2c which was available as a debian package long ago. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- "But God said to him, You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared? So is the man who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." Luke 12:20,21
Re: pascal for linux
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > I was looking at porting a pascal program from dos to linux. Besides > having to write a device driver (as it twiddles the printer port > directly) I would have to fix all references to the Borland runtime lib > stuff. I don't think that dosemu would fix all this (does dosemu allow > direct access to hw?). I think I might just re-write the thing into C > and have an easier time. (Wasn't there a Pascal-to-C converter package > somewhere? Thought I saw it in Bo or Hamm) I kind of doubt dosemu would be happy about your program trying to access the hardware directly, but I don't know for sure. There is f2c, a Fortran-to-C converter, but I am not aware of one for Pascal-to-C. If you're feeling ambitious, I'm sure no one would mind if you wrote a converter. Wish I could help, but I don't really know programming.
Re: pascal for linux
Wednesday, September 01, 1999, 12:42:19 PM, Kenneth wrote: > I was looking at porting a pascal program from dos to linux. Besides > having to write a device driver (as it twiddles the printer port > directly) I would have to fix all references to the Borland runtime lib > stuff. Take a look at FPC then. http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/fpc/fpc.html Of the two, GPC and FPC, I much prefer FPC as it is written in Pascal and tries to comply as much as possible with Borland's implementation. > Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . I did see a New Hampshire license plate today. Laughed my butt off remembering the Carlin skit surrounding it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: pascal for linux
>> I have Pascal for Dos, but my OS (Sistema >>Operacional) is Linux, and >>I >> like how install in linux. >Debian has a Pascal compiler. Look for the package >gpc (and gpc-doc >for >the doc's). > >Alternatively, if you really want to run your DOS >Pascal, you might try >dosemu. I was looking at porting a pascal program from dos to linux. Besides having to write a device driver (as it twiddles the printer port directly) I would have to fix all references to the Borland runtime lib stuff. I don't think that dosemu would fix all this (does dosemu allow direct access to hw?). I think I might just re-write the thing into C and have an easier time. (Wasn't there a Pascal-to-C converter package somewhere? Thought I saw it in Bo or Hamm) === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: pascal for linux
Wednesday, September 01, 1999, 10:19:35 AM, Patrick wrote: > Debian has a Pascal compiler. Look for the package gpc (and gpc-doc for > the doc's). There's also fpc which is my preference since it is built from itself while gpc uses, IIRC, parts of gcc. > Alternatively, if you really want to run your DOS Pascal, you might try > dosemu. Speaking of dosemu, has anyone ever gotte lredir to work on a directory? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: pascal for linux
> I have Pascal for Dos, but my OS (Sistema Operacional) is Linux, and I > like how install in linux. Debian has a Pascal compiler. Look for the package gpc (and gpc-doc for the doc's). Alternatively, if you really want to run your DOS Pascal, you might try dosemu. Hope this helps, Patrick
pascal for linux
I have Pascal for Dos, but my OS (Sistema Operacional) is Linux, and I like how install in linux.
Re: Pascal
Stephen Pitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Oh, sorry. Is the source code archive for fpc from Debian 2.0 available somewhere? > Have you tried gpc, the GNU pascal compiler? I have now, and it doesn't like my code. Even with the "--borland-pascal" switch. :-/ -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Bored of spam? Try Fidonet. http://www.fidonet.org/ http://www.fidonet.pp.se/
Re: Pascal
On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 12:38:53AM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > > Then run "apt-get source " to grab the source for a package, > > or "apt-get -b source " to grab the source AND recompile it. > > Well, it's just that fpc seems to have been dropped as of Debian 2.1, and it > isn't in 2.2 either. > Oh, sorry. Have you tried gpc, the GNU pascal compiler? -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Pascal
> Then run "apt-get source " to grab the source for a package, > or "apt-get -b source " to grab the source AND recompile it. Well, it's just that fpc seems to have been dropped as of Debian 2.1, and it isn't in 2.2 either. -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Please Cc replies to me personally. Thanks.
Re: Pascal
> Where can I find the source .deb from Debian 2.0 to recompile (can I get > dpkg to automatically recompile from a source .deb?) Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main Run "apt-get update" to update your source lists. Then run "apt-get source " to grab the source for a package, or "apt-get -b source " to grab the source AND recompile it. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Pascal
> You'll have to recompile the programs to work with glibc2.1. If they're > leftovers from Debian <2.x, you could install libc5 and see what happens. Hmmm, I think I installed fpc initially with Debian 2.0 (which was what was stable when I first installed). It worked fine with 2.1, but broke now when I updated to libc2.1, which is strange. The compiler is a static binary, and compiled Pascal programs are only linked to the Pascal library: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/2000 libfpc.so => /usr/lib/libfpc.so (0x40004000) Where can I find the source .deb from Debian 2.0 to recompile (can I get dpkg to automatically recompile from a source .deb?) -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Please Cc all replies to me personally, as I'm not subscribed to this list.
Re: Pascal
You'll have to recompile the programs to work with glibc2.1. If they're leftovers from Debian <2.x, you could install libc5 and see what happens. I'm no expert in this stuff... I'm still a little green myself. On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, peter karlsson wrote: > > I installed fpc (Free Pascal) before, but now it is listed as "obsolete" in > > Dselect. Has it been replaced with something else? > > And, now that I upgraded to the version of libc6 (2.1) from potato (to be > able to install some other development packages), all my Pascal programs > causes segmentation faults on startup. > > Annoying. > > -- > \\// > Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ > > Please Cc replies to me personally. Thanks. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: Pascal
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, peter karlsson wrote: >> I installed fpc (Free Pascal) before, but now it is listed as "obsolete" in >> Dselect. Has it been replaced with something else? No. This means that the original *.deb file is no longer available, which is quite natural if you don't keep Debian CDs in your drive all of the time ;) The word obsolete is somewhat misleading. >And, now that I upgraded to the version of libc6 (2.1) from potato (to be >able to install some other development packages), all my Pascal programs >causes segmentation faults on startup. Recompile them and see if that helps. If not, put the 2.0 version of glibc somewhere in /usr/local/lib, add this location to your environment and to /etc/ld.so.conf, and run ldconfig. And make sure your apps use the right linker. -- Philip Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Pascal
> I installed fpc (Free Pascal) before, but now it is listed as "obsolete" in > Dselect. Has it been replaced with something else? And, now that I upgraded to the version of libc6 (2.1) from potato (to be able to install some other development packages), all my Pascal programs causes segmentation faults on startup. Annoying. -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Please Cc replies to me personally. Thanks.
Pascal
Hi! I installed fpc (Free Pascal) before, but now it is listed as "obsolete" in Dselect. Has it been replaced with something else? I need to be able to compile Turbo Pascal like programs, that's why I installed fpc in the first place, because it's good at that. -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Please Cc replies to me personally. Thanks!
Re: Thanks: Pascal for Linux?
On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 07:52:48PM -0600, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > Free Pascal has RPM, but no DEB package I think we may want to have > it... By Jeff Shilt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (223 Days in Creation) FPK Pascal -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgp1Cocj8hK6w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Thanks: Pascal for Linux?
Hi, Thanks for the info. I just tried both. IMHO Free Pascal is better, it knows Borland procedures from CRT unit for example, GNU does not (well that was not their goal, as they say). Compatibility with Borland Turbo Pascal is imprortant to me, so I would prefer Free Pascal. Free Pascal has RPM, but no DEB package I think we may want to have it... Sasha. > Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > > > Just wondering is there Pascal compiler for Linux? preferable free? close to > > Turbo Pascal 6? > > There are a couple of compilers out there... GNU has one, but I think > this is a little better... > > (it's syntactically compatible with turbo pascal 7). > > http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/fpc/ > > I don't know if there is a deb package for this or not... I haven't > looked. > > > Happy hacking, > > Nate
Re: Pascal for Linux?
On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 05:18:54PM -0600, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > Just wondering is there Pascal compiler for Linux? preferable free? close to > Turbo Pascal 6? http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/languages/pascal/fpc/www/fpc.html -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpviMIV7s45g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pascal for Linux?
On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 05:18:54PM -0600, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering is there Pascal compiler for Linux? preferable free? close to > Turbo Pascal 6? Don't know if there are alternatives. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/debian/glibc/libc$ dpkg --print-avail gpc Package: gpc Priority: optional Section: devel Installed-Size: 2440 Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: egcs (1.1.0.91.58-3) Version: 2.91.58-3 Replaces: gpc-ss (<< 2.91.59) Provides: pascal-compiler Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), g++ (>= 2.91.58), g++ (<< 2.91.59) Suggests: egcs-docs (>= 2.91.58) Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/gpc_2.91.58-3.deb Size: 1179986 MD5sum: 8531095aec2c09c5d124707937fdf1f8 Description: The GNU (egcs) Pascal compiler. This is the egcs version of the Pascal compiler, which compiles Pascal on platforms supported by the gcc compiler. It uses the gcc backend to generate optimized code. . The current release 2.1 implements Standard Pascal (ISO 7185, level 1), a large subset of Extended Pascal (ISO 10206), and Borland Pascal. -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Pascal for Linux?
Hi, Just wondering is there Pascal compiler for Linux? preferable free? close to Turbo Pascal 6? Thanks, Sasha.
Re: pascal.+development
On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:13:01 -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote: >So that the vi lovers dont flame me too badly, I have to point out that vim >has "modes" too, but I dont know if it has one for Pascal. JED has modes as well. Perl, C and pascal are the ones I use from time to time. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: pascal.+development
On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > I think there are some IDE's for Linux, but none seem to be as popular > as Emacs/Xemacs. Emacs is not an integrated development environment per > se, but it has many of the capabilities of one plus other things. latest vim has some similar featurs. and vi/vim is superior to emacs. :) Nikolai -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: pascal.+development
I think there are some IDE's for Linux, but none seem to be as popular as Emacs/Xemacs. Emacs is not an integrated development environment per se, but it has many of the capabilities of one plus other things. Emacs has modes for C, C++, LaTeX, shell scripts, Matlab, and yes, even Pascal. font-lock-mode will give you syntax highlighting. C-h m will show key bindings for the mode that you are in. So that the vi lovers dont flame me too badly, I have to point out that vim has "modes" too, but I dont know if it has one for Pascal. Mike On Mon, Jul 13, 1998 at 04:46:37PM -0400, Alexander Gutfraind wrote: > Hello fellow users! > It's a weird newbie question I'm about to ask. but what > about Pascal? > you all seem to write in C or PERL, but I like pascal. > when I checked the pascal compiler I found it required all > types > of libraries, libc5. but shouldn't it cause some problems to > libc6? > I am not an experienced programmer, but would like to > improve that in Debian linux environment. > Is there (rather what are) C and Pascal complete > developments environments > like TurboPascal and TurboC from borland I'm using? > > TIA. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
RE: pascal.+development
You can find a new version of gpc in experimental. It uses egcs. GPC should fit your needs quite well. The version there is "alpha" code, but is much more stable than the version that you found using libc5. There are a few bugs that are keeping it from being released as the gpc 2.1 beta software. There is an effort to develop an integrated development environment similar to Borland's (RHIDE is the name IIRC). But from what I have heard it needs a lot of work. There may also be some emacs guru's who have similar functionality (ide environment) available. Pat > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Gutfraind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 4:47 PM > To: Debian User lists > Subject: pascal.+development > > > Hello fellow users! > It's a weird newbie question I'm about to ask. but what > about Pascal? > you all seem to write in C or PERL, but I like pascal. > when I checked the pascal compiler I found it required all > types > of libraries, libc5. but shouldn't it cause some problems to > libc6? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
pascal.+development
Hello fellow users! It's a weird newbie question I'm about to ask. but what about Pascal? you all seem to write in C or PERL, but I like pascal. when I checked the pascal compiler I found it required all types of libraries, libc5. but shouldn't it cause some problems to libc6? I am not an experienced programmer, but would like to improve that in Debian linux environment. Is there (rather what are) C and Pascal complete developments environments like TurboPascal and TurboC from borland I'm using? TIA. sorry for the stupidity. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Pascal question
> > Hi, > > I have installed the pascal package and downgraded my gcc to 2.7.2.1 > for compatibility reasons. In the beginning I got some errors concerning > files the package could find By linking then I got through that stage > .Now I am getting the following errors > > > garfield:/usr/home/guest$ gpc program~pdp~.txt > ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as linker script > ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error I don't do pascal myself any more, but I assume gpc, like gcc looks at the file extention to choose what type of file it is. Obviously, it doens't recognice ".txt" as a pascal file (I wouldnt' do that myself eighter), and it chooses to assume it's a linker script. Rename your file to eighter ".p", or ".pas" (I just don't know which, but one must be the right one), and it should go OK. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: pascal
Isn't gpc in the optional development section gnu's pascal compiler? Martin >Hi, > >Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? > > Thanks very much >George > > > >--- >George Kapetanios >Churchill College >Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html >--- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Pascal question
Hi,
I have installed the pascal package and downgraded my gcc to 2.7.2.1
for compatibility reasons. In the beginning I got some errors concerning
files the package could find By linking then I got through that stage
.Now I am getting the following errors
garfield:/usr/home/guest$ gpc program~pdp~.txt
ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as linker script
ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error
Running the strace command gives
access("/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/crtn.o", R_OK) = 0
access("/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
access("/usr/i486-linux/bin/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
access("/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld", X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
fork() = 1160
wait4(-1, ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as
linker script
ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error
[WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1], 0, NULL) = 1160
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---
_exit(1)= ?
It is looking for the command ld in /usr/lib/gcc... and can't find
Can anyone tell me what is going on ?
The program is not my own but the person who gave it to me told me it had
no bugs.
Any help will be appreciated
Thanks
George
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pascal (cont)
Hi, Thanks to all who replied to my question. I have juct installed gpc on my system . However, it requires gcc << 2.7.2.2 So I downgraded gcc to 2.7.2.1 I was wondering whether it would be possible to have the newest gcc ( 2.7.2.3 ) together with gpc . Does anyone know if this is possible or when the newest version of gpc will be available Thanks very much George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pascal
c> > Hi, > > Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? devel/gpc-doc_2.0-3.deb@ devel/gpc_2.0-3.deb@ -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pascal
Hi, Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? Thanks very much George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Pascal Compiler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I recently attempted to compile a simple Pascal program to make sure > gpc is working. I was surprised to get the error: > > ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory > > I thought I might have missed installing the libraries so I reinstalled > gpc and the library from dselect. I assume I got all the packages since > I fixed the dependency problems which popped up when I selected gpc. After > installing everything, the same error popped up, how do I get ld to find > the Pascal library? 'dpkg --status gpc' shows: Version: 2.0-3 Depends: libc5, gcc (>= 2.7.2.1-2), gcc (<< 2.7.2.2), libgpc2 'dpkg --listfiles libgpc2' shows /usr/lib/libgpc.so.2.8 /usr/lib/libgpc.so.2 You should have libgpc2 package installed. -- Alair Pereira do Lago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair> Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Pascal Compiler
I recently attempted to compile a simple Pascal program to make sure gpc is working. I was surprised to get the error: ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory I thought I might have missed installing the libraries so I reinstalled gpc and the library from dselect. I assume I got all the packages since I fixed the dependency problems which popped up when I selected gpc. After installing everything, the same error popped up, how do I get ld to find the Pascal library? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PASCAL for Linux
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: > I've been trying to download a PASCAL compiler for Linux and I've been > unsuccesful. Every site I've gone to either has the wrong link on their The two major FREE Pascal compilers available are GNU and FPK Pascal. I've tried them both, and IMHO GNU works much more reliable. See for yourself. Their respective web pages lists FTP-sites and mirrors. (btw, did you actually web search for this?? that is a very effecient method which should not be underestimated) GNU Pascal web page: http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~gnu-pascal/ FPK Pascal web page: http://tfdec1.fys.kuleuven.ac.be/~michael/fpk.html // Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PASCAL for Linux
>You want gpc and gpc-doc, about 1.5 mb total. If you can't get them by ftp >from ftp.debian.org or a mirror site, tell me what does actually work on a >WinNT server (http?) and I will see what I can do to help. I absolutely >hate pascal, but I'm compassionate :) Thank you for your quick and kind answer =) I'll try again today FTPing them. Even our mail server (NTMail) yesterday was having rather unusual (yet common) problems. We have several Dual Pentium Pros with 128 megs of RAM and they can barely run the applications we tell them to. One P166 is running everything by itself and has lots of processing time left. It is embarassing. I want to convert myself from a Win95 to a Linux user. As for Pascal, I would like to learn some programming for myself, but I am not ready to go into C or C++ yet.. so I'll start from little =) Leandro+ ___ Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro (LA672) Assistant to the Editor and Localization, GAMESMANIA Internet Frontier Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (416) 656-2659 Fax: (416) 656-0863 Swedish Chef Song Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! ZimID 46B98555 1993/12/15 0D 6E 96 68 D6 B3 9A 96 20 ED 1F AF 11 46 13 79 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PASCAL for Linux
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: > Sorry for my previous request which apparently was sent to the wrong > distribution list (many apologies to Pete Templin who kindly pointed it > out to me). > I've been trying to download a PASCAL compiler for Linux and I've been > unsuccesful. Every site I've gone to either has the wrong link on their > html or I am denied the FTP transfer. I am assuming that this is a > problem with our WinNT server. Anyone has ideas of where I could > download this program? I've tried linux.org with their software map > engine which failed, and I also went on sunsite. > > Thank you all for your patience and help. You want gpc and gpc-doc, about 1.5 mb total. If you can't get them by ftp from ftp.debian.org or a mirror site, tell me what does actually work on a WinNT server (http?) and I will see what I can do to help. I absolutely hate pascal, but I'm compassionate :) +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PASCAL for Linux
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: > I've been trying to download a PASCAL compiler for Linux and I've been > unsuccesful. Um, I'm assuming you're using Debian, since you're asking in debian-user. (grin) Did you try the p2c package, which is a Pascal-to-C translator? Not exactly a Pascal compiler, however it may suit your needs. You don't mention it, so just in case you don't know about it, here's a pointer. . . . G'luck, Kendall -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PASCAL for Linux
Sorry for my previous request which apparently was sent to the wrong distribution list (many apologies to Pete Templin who kindly pointed it out to me). I've been trying to download a PASCAL compiler for Linux and I've been unsuccesful. Every site I've gone to either has the wrong link on their html or I am denied the FTP transfer. I am assuming that this is a problem with our WinNT server. Anyone has ideas of where I could download this program? I've tried linux.org with their software map engine which failed, and I also went on sunsite. Thank you all for your patience and help. Leandro+ ___ Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro (LA672) Assistant to the Editor and Localization, GamesMania Internet Frontier, Toronto, Canada Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (416) 656-2659 ext. 425 Fax: (416) 656-0863 Time is an illusion perpetrated by the manufacturers of space. -- graffiti ZimID 46B98555 1993/12/15 0D 6E 96 68 D6 B3 9A 96 20 ED 1F AF 11 46 13 79 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[Help] gpc (Pascal) Problems.
Hi == I have instaled the gpc (GNU Pascal Compiler) with libgpc2 and all seems ok, dpkg does not report any problem, but... When I try to compile a program the message all I can get is: bash$ gpc teste.pas ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory bash$ What is the problem? I have installed libgpc2 ... What is the solution? Thanks -- At\'e breve === Pedro Quaresma de Almeida Departamento de Matem\'atica Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia Universidade de Coimbra P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/
