Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Daniel Martin wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dima wrote:
> 
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > >I received this last night:
> > >
> > >Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
> > >connection terminated
> >
> > In /etc/ppp/options there's a number of lcp-echo* options.
> > Comment them out.
> >
> > >What does this mean?
> >
> > ppp sends out echo-requests to see if the link is up.  If it doesn't
> > receive replies it assumes the link is down and terminates.
> >
> > Some servers out there don't understand echo-requests, looks like
> > your ISP has one of those.
> >
> 
> For what it's worth, I get this after the other end has hung up because of
> an idle timeout - for some reason pppd can't tell that the other end hung
> up.  For me, then, it's important to have those lcp echo requests (well,
> only in so far as I'd like my machine to know whether or not it's
> connected).  I also sometimes get a "appear to have received our own
> echo-request" error after the other end hangs up.

Just FYI, the reason you get a "appear to have received our own 
echo-request" is likely because after the connection is lost the
modem goes back into "command" mode where it echoes back anything
you type (or ppp sends).

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Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Shaleh
First, last night was the first time I have seen that error.  Been using
it for months.  No change on the ISP end.  Second, /dev/modem is
symlinked to /dev/ttyS1.  So in my case /dev/modem is right.  I also
tried /dev/ttyS1 just in case.

Dima wrote:
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> >I received this last night:
> >
> >Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
> >connection terminated
> 
> In /etc/ppp/options there's a number of lcp-echo* options.
> Comment them out.
> 
> >What does this mean?
> 
> ppp sends out echo-requests to see if the link is up.  If it doesn't
> receive replies it assumes the link is down and terminates.
> 
> Some servers out there don't understand echo-requests, looks like
> your ISP has one of those.
> 
> > I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my
> >modem.  setserial would say /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with
> >`setserial /dev/modem`.  It is an internal Best Data uses dip switches
> >and has served me faithfully for many moons.  Is there some way to reset
> >a modem without a coldboot (which this required, reboot did no good)?
> 
> I'd say the problem is somewhere else... You shouldn't use /dev/modem
> unless it's a pcmcia modem or something.  Use /dev/ttyS? instead.
> 
> HTH
> 
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Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread john
Shaleh writes:
> I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my modem.  setserial would say
> /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with `setserial /dev/modem`.  It is
> an internal Best Data uses dip switches and has served me faithfully for
> many moons.  Is there some way to reset a modem without a coldboot (which
> this required, reboot did no good)?

I had a somewhat similar problem with an internal modem.  Apparently the
on-board micro can crash. Try using minicom to send 'ATZ'.  If this doesn't
work, hard reset is the only way out.  I considered soldering a reset
switch into the modem, but I bought a new one instead.
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Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Shaleh wrote:

> I received this last night:
> 
> Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
> connection terminated
> 
> What does this mean?  I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my
> modem.  setserial would say /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with
> `setserial /dev/modem`.  It is an internal Best Data uses dip switches
> and has served me faithfully for many moons.  Is there some way to reset
> a modem without a coldboot (which this required, reboot did no good)?
> 
I had a problem similar to this one that eventually degenerated to the
point that I purchased a new modem and the problem went away. I didn't get
a locked up machine right away. It would only hang the connection.
Eventually the modem got so fratsed that it could not be recovered without
a reboot. That was when I went looking for a new modem.

The error message is a result of having LCP echo frames configured in your
options file (as a keep alive for the link). When this error would happen
to me, my ISP would still show me as logged into the system, even though
neither of us could ping the other. Removing the LCP echo from the options
file only made the errors more bizzar.

Hope this helps some,

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Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dima wrote:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> >I received this last night:
> >
> >Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
> >connection terminated
> 
> In /etc/ppp/options there's a number of lcp-echo* options.
> Comment them out.
> 
> >What does this mean?  
> 
> ppp sends out echo-requests to see if the link is up.  If it doesn't
> receive replies it assumes the link is down and terminates.  
> 
> Some servers out there don't understand echo-requests, looks like
> your ISP has one of those.
> 

For what it's worth, I get this after the other end has hung up because of
an idle timeout - for some reason pppd can't tell that the other end hung
up.  For me, then, it's important to have those lcp echo requests (well,
only in so far as I'd like my machine to know whether or not it's
connected).  I also sometimes get a "appear to have received our own
echo-request" error after the other end hangs up.



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Re: ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>I received this last night:
>
>Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
>connection terminated

In /etc/ppp/options there's a number of lcp-echo* options.
Comment them out.

>What does this mean?  

ppp sends out echo-requests to see if the link is up.  If it doesn't
receive replies it assumes the link is down and terminates.  

Some servers out there don't understand echo-requests, looks like
your ISP has one of those.

> I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my
>modem.  setserial would say /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with
>`setserial /dev/modem`.  It is an internal Best Data uses dip switches
>and has served me faithfully for many moons.  Is there some way to reset
>a modem without a coldboot (which this required, reboot did no good)?

I'd say the problem is somewhere else... You shouldn't use /dev/modem 
unless it's a pcmcia modem or something.  Use /dev/ttyS? instead.

HTH



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ppp error question

1997-11-17 Thread Shaleh
I received this last night:

Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames
connection terminated

What does this mean?  I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my
modem.  setserial would say /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with
`setserial /dev/modem`.  It is an internal Best Data uses dip switches
and has served me faithfully for many moons.  Is there some way to reset
a modem without a coldboot (which this required, reboot did no good)?


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