replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Dear all,

now with the imminent release of squeeze, I'd like to know what is a
good replacement of lenny's amarok as both an audio player and
application to access my ipod.

I've upgraded to squeeze about a month ago, and I can't find the
following features in squeeze's amarok (all of which were pleasantly
usable in lenny's):

- ability to synchronize and manage media files on my ipod classic (a
google search tells me I should install amarok-ipod, but there is no
amarok-ipod in squeeze).

- import my old podcasts. Somehow amarok managed to ignore the existing
podcasts in my /home/audio folder. (There is no 'media device' setting
in the configuration menue.)

- ability to show recently added files and albums

- ability to import my 'old' mysql database (amarok 1.4.10-2lenny1) into
amarok 2.3.1. (I guess I could do without that in case of a good
replacement for amarok).

I also find the new user interface quite annoying. It appears more
'clean' than the old one, but lacks many of the features that I found
useful.

amarok has always been quite a huge monster application, slow to start
and rather wasteful on resources. In the past this disadvantage has been
compensated by a large feature set. The 'new' amarok on kde4 by
comparison, appears to be even slower to start and shows only a fraction
of the features compared to lenny. (I guess this is generally the case
with many applications for kde4).

The most pressing need at the moment is to find a way to download
podcasts and synchronize mp3s and podcasts with the ipod.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Cheers,
Johannes


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Re: replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 12:07:08 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

 now with the imminent release of squeeze, I'd like to know what is a
 good replacement of lenny's amarok as both an audio player and
 application to access my ipod.

(...)

Clementine was a fork of Amarok created precisely for that reason 
(people unhappy with the new path taken by Amarok 2.x), maybe you can 
take a look at its fetaures:

http://www.clementine-player.org/

Greetings,

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Re: replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi,

On Saturday 05 February 2011 12.07:08 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 now with the imminent release of squeeze, I'd like to know what is a
 good replacement of lenny's amarok as both an audio player and
 application to access my ipod.

This question is better addressed to the upstream (KDE) mailing lists.

I know that Amarok 2 vs. 1.4 has generated quite a bit of noise. However, it 
is not feasible (meaning: nobody who would be able to do it has time and/or 
motivation) to continue maintaining Amarok 1.4.  So there's just not much we 
(as Debian) can do.

Sorry if this may not be the answer you're looking for.

greetings
Adrian von Bidder

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Re: replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Frederik Schwarzer
Hi,

(sorry, the first one went off-list)

 On Saturday 05 February 2011 12.07:08 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 now with the imminent release of squeeze, I'd like to know what is a
 good replacement of lenny's amarok as both an audio player and
 application to access my ipod.

Clementine is one of the continuations of Amarok 1.4.
It was ported to Qt4 and many things were fixed.

debian-multimedia.org has version 0.5.3 and the project website has
(unofficial) Debian packages for 0.6.

Although not part of Squeeze, it's maybe worth a look in case Amarok 2
does not fit your needs (yet).

Regards


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Re: replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 05 February 2011 16:12:47 Adrian von Bidder wrote:
 I know that Amarok 2 vs. 1.4 has generated quite a bit of noise. However,
 it is not feasible (meaning: nobody who would be able to do it has time
 and/or motivation) to continue maintaining Amarok 1.4.  So there's just not
 much we (as Debian) can do.

There's always Trinity.*  They are probably already maintaining/updating 
Amarok 1.4.  And if they haven't got there yet, they soon will.

Lisi

* http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2010052500735NWKE


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Re: replacement for amarok 1.4. in squeeze?

2011-02-05 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On šeštadienis 05 Vasaris 2011 13:07:08 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 - ability to synchronize and manage media files on my ipod classic (a
 google search tells me I should install amarok-ipod, but there is no
 amarok-ipod in squeeze).

ipod should show up in Media sources home - Local music.

 - import my old podcasts. Somehow amarok managed to ignore the existing
 podcasts in my /home/audio folder. (There is no 'media device' setting
 in the configuration menue.)

There used to be a bug about this. I don't recall if it was fixed. But read 
the point below.

 - ability to show recently added files and albums

Filter collection by e.g. added:1h. Click on the arrow in the Search 
Collection text box.

 - ability to import my 'old' mysql database (amarok 1.4.10-2lenny1) into
 amarok 2.3.1. (I guess I could do without that in case of a good
 replacement for amarok).

Settings - Configure Amarok - Collection - Import

All suggests are based on 2.4.0. Check if they apply to 2.3.1.

 I also find the new user interface quite annoying. It appears more
 'clean' than the old one, but lacks many of the features that I found
 useful.
 
 amarok has always been quite a huge monster application, slow to start
 and rather wasteful on resources. In the past this disadvantage has been
 compensated by a large feature set. The 'new' amarok on kde4 by
 comparison, appears to be even slower to start and shows only a fraction
 of the features compared to lenny. (I guess this is generally the case
 with many applications for kde4).

Well, that's your preference. Amarok has always been pretty bulky. Personally 
I don't find UI much worse as long as it satisfies my basic needs.


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