Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-20 Thread David Christensen

On 1/20/24 13:05, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

On 1/20/24 1:46 AM, David Christensen wrote:

On 1/19/24 21:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop 
the way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.  Now I just have to 
put NordVPN to connect with my browser.  Thank you for the help, it 
is greatly appreciated.



I am glad it worked out for you.  :-)


Part of participating in an Internet mailing list like debian-user is 
posting the solution to your question, so that other people can 
benefit.  Please document your solution.

>
> The package that held the chanages I wanted was called Extension Manager
> and Extensions.  That file gave me options for the top bar and the
> bottom bar.  Hope this helps.


Thank you.  :-)


Post your solutions is a good habit.  In the future, you may run into 
the same problem, STFW for a solution, and find your previous post!



David




Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-20 Thread Maureen L Thomas
The package that held the chanages I wanted was called Extension Manager 
and Extensions.  That file gave me options for the top bar and the 
bottom bar.  Hope this helps.


On 1/20/24 1:46 AM, David Christensen wrote:

On 1/19/24 21:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop 
the way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.  Now I just have to 
put NordVPN to connect with my browser.  Thank you for the help, it 
is greatly appreciated.



I am glad it worked out for you.  :-)


Part of participating in an Internet mailing list like debian-user is 
posting the solution to your question, so that other people can 
benefit.  Please document your solution.



David


Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-20 Thread Bottom Post
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:53:22AM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>   ... and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop
> the way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.

Nice.  Thanks for reporting back.


> Now I just have to ... with my ...

Yeah, right.



> Thank you for the help, it is greatly appreciated.


Good ways to express appreciation is by actual meeting the people.
On mailinglists does mean meeting them half way, meet on common ground.

Think "help those from whom you want help".  For starters a Subject line
that matches message body content. Good subject lines are a huge help
with "What is it about?". Good subject lines also transmit "I have put
effort in composing my email, you are invited to put in further effort".
And yes, bad subject lines transmit "Minimal effort from my side,
expecting minimal effort from your side" also "Here laziness, tell me
what I can buy with it".


The real challenge goes inside the email. Aim for "very good", settle
for "good", stay away from "good enough" for others and stay away for
"perfect" for yourself. Go for "interresting for all", avoid "I have
a problem and you must help me".


Ahd there is another import thing. Understand "world wide", understand
the concept of time zones. People on this mailinglist are from across
the globe, so from different time zones by definition. It means seeing
much emails that were written while you were sleeping, it means you will
be writing email for some that are sleeping. Do NOT assume that
recievers does know what preciously has been written, so do not top
post. Reply below precious text. Make it possible that your audience can
read in the discussion order. When I see "top post", I think "the life
form does not know to whom they are writing". And wonder "What else are
they missing?".




Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse



Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-20 Thread Mike Castle
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 9:12 AM Jeremy Nicoll
 wrote:
> And, of course, write notes to yourself for EVERY change like this, so
> you can remember how you did it.

I actually have a quarterly reminder for myself to review my various
systems and take notes on changes.  Installed packages, make sure
config files are captured in source control, was I running any A/B
experiments to see if I like a new font better than the old one, etc.
While most of this I do as I go along, I find having a regular true-up
is useful to make sure I didn't miss anything.

This applies to my computers, phones, car gadgets, kitchen layout, etc.

mrc



Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-20 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, at 05:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop the 
> way I wanted it. 

It might be sensible to screenshot the setup you like.  If you have similar
problems in future it would help enormously to be able to show people
the layout you like vv the one you get immediately after a reinstall.

And, of course, write notes to yourself for EVERY change like this, so 
you can remember how you did it.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.



Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-19 Thread David Christensen

On 1/19/24 21:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop the 
way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.  Now I just have to put 
NordVPN to connect with my browser.  Thank you for the help, it is 
greatly appreciated.



I am glad it worked out for you.  :-)


Part of participating in an Internet mailing list like debian-user is 
posting the solution to your question, so that other people can benefit. 
 Please document your solution.



David



Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-19 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop the 
way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.  Now I just have to put 
NordVPN to connect with my browser.  Thank you for the help, it is 
greatly appreciated.


On 1/19/24 7:17 AM, Joe wrote:

  On 1/18/24 1:17 AM, Beyond Insulted wrote:

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

 I now have a system that works but I cannot find any
utility to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints?

Try to understand the audience that is being asked.

Imaging that they were willing to help and stopped doing so
because the "the way I want it" is a way too poor description.

 

Moe

Groeten
Geert Stappers

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:02:21 -0500
Maureen L Thomas  wrote:


I am sorry for the way I said that.  What I want is the very top bar,
before I re-installed it had three topics on the very top left hand
that allowed me to click on one of them and get a menu of all the
software installed and in order according to the topic.  Like under
internet would list all the internet software. Right now I have to
use that dot thing to see what is installed. It is a pain.  I cannot
find the utility to change the settings for the top bar or the bottom
bar or the sidebar I used daily with a list of the browsers, and
special software that is used daily. Again I apologize for the
previous, I was very uptight over my inability to remember what I
need to do.


We cannot all recollect all that has gone before.

There is very large flexibility as to the Linux display. There are four
major desktop environments and several derivatives of them. Some people
don't use a DE at all, just a window manager.

I use Xfce4 and its own panels, with one panel to the top left and one
panel top right, with a third tiny panel just containing an analogue
clock.

Most configuration can be achieved by right-clicking on a panel then
Panel-> Panel Preferences. The size, position and number of panels can
be controlled in that way. Launchers can be added to panels, and
applications can be added to launchers. Mostly one launcher contains
one application.

I don't know what display configuration you have, but a good start is
to right-click on whatever bars you have, and explore the menus.

The main application menu can pretty much always be opened by
right-clicking on an empty part of the desktop and choosing
Applications. This set of menus, grouped as you say be approximate
function, can be edited by a couple of applications, one of which is the
Gnome alacarte, which I use. This is not normally installed by default
on Debian, but can be installed in the usual way. If you don't already
have Gnome or some of its applications, it will probably bring in a
distressing list of dependencies.

Let us know more about what desktop environment you use, and we can
probably give better advice. Unfortunately, while reinstalling can fix
many problems fairly easily, it does bring with it the need to rebuild
the configurations of many things.


Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-19 Thread Joe
 On 1/18/24 1:17 AM, Beyond Insulted wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote:  
> >> I now have a system that works but I cannot find any
> >> utility to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints?  
> > Try to understand the audience that is being asked.
> >
> > Imaging that they were willing to help and stopped doing so
> > because the "the way I want it" is a way too poor description.
> >
> > 
> >> Moe  
> >
> > Groeten
> > Geert Stappers  

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:02:21 -0500
Maureen L Thomas  wrote:

> I am sorry for the way I said that.  What I want is the very top bar, 
> before I re-installed it had three topics on the very top left hand
> that allowed me to click on one of them and get a menu of all the
> software installed and in order according to the topic.  Like under
> internet would list all the internet software. Right now I have to
> use that dot thing to see what is installed. It is a pain.  I cannot
> find the utility to change the settings for the top bar or the bottom
> bar or the sidebar I used daily with a list of the browsers, and
> special software that is used daily. Again I apologize for the
> previous, I was very uptight over my inability to remember what I
> need to do.
> 
We cannot all recollect all that has gone before.

There is very large flexibility as to the Linux display. There are four
major desktop environments and several derivatives of them. Some people
don't use a DE at all, just a window manager.

I use Xfce4 and its own panels, with one panel to the top left and one
panel top right, with a third tiny panel just containing an analogue
clock.

Most configuration can be achieved by right-clicking on a panel then
Panel-> Panel Preferences. The size, position and number of panels can
be controlled in that way. Launchers can be added to panels, and
applications can be added to launchers. Mostly one launcher contains
one application.

I don't know what display configuration you have, but a good start is
to right-click on whatever bars you have, and explore the menus. 

The main application menu can pretty much always be opened by
right-clicking on an empty part of the desktop and choosing
Applications. This set of menus, grouped as you say be approximate
function, can be edited by a couple of applications, one of which is the
Gnome alacarte, which I use. This is not normally installed by default
on Debian, but can be installed in the usual way. If you don't already
have Gnome or some of its applications, it will probably bring in a
distressing list of dependencies.

Let us know more about what desktop environment you use, and we can
probably give better advice. Unfortunately, while reinstalling can fix
many problems fairly easily, it does bring with it the need to rebuild
the configurations of many things.

-- 
Joe



Re: top bar the way I want it

2024-01-18 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I am sorry for the way I said that.  What I want is the very top bar, 
before I re-installed it had three topics on the very top left hand that 
allowed me to click on one of them and get a menu of all the software 
installed and in order according to the topic.  Like under internet 
would list all the internet software. Right now I have to use that dot 
thing to see what is installed. It is a pain.  I cannot find the utility 
to change the settings for the top bar or the bottom bar or the sidebar 
I used daily with a list of the browsers, and special software that is 
used daily. Again I apologize for the previous, I was very uptight over 
my inability to remember what I need to do.


On 1/18/24 1:17 AM, Beyond Insulted wrote:

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

    I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility
to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints?

Try to understand the audience that is being asked.

Imaging that they were willing to help and stopped doing so
because the "the way I want it" is a way too poor description.

  

Moe


Groeten
Geert Stappers

top bar the way I want it

2024-01-17 Thread Beyond Insulted
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>    I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility
> to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints?

Try to understand the audience that is being asked.

Imaging that they were willing to help and stopped doing so
because the "the way I want it" is a way too poor description.

 
> Moe


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse