Re: vim & kde questions SOLVED
Mark Neidorff wrote: Thanks. That solved 2 annoyances. Its too bad about the vim install. Another of those things about Etch that doesn't make sense to me. I think it is because of the minimal install. I may be wrong but I think at some point in the past they replace nvi with vim-tiny. The purpose was to provide a small vi-like editor with the intent of the user installing the full version of whatever they choose after the minimal install is complete. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim & kde questions SOLVED
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 04:18 pm, Michael Shuler wrote:
> On 08/14/2007 03:06 PM, Magnus Pedersen wrote:
> > Mark Neidorff wrote:
> >> First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and
> >> I want to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a
> >> new line is opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the
> >> first position of that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the
> >> arrow keys work properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal
> >> problem or a keyboard mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is,
> >> how do I solve it?
> >
> > Dunno, I don't see that kind of behavior from my Vim...
>
> When calling the default install of vim-tiny as 'vim ', I believe
> arrow-key navigation works, however, when calling as 'vi ', vim
> behaves as the old-school vi (h,j,k,l) and the use of arrow-keys will
> output control characters.
>
> dpkg -l vim* |grep ^ii
>
> Will likely only show vim-tiny installed.
>
> aptitude install vim
>
> Will get you the full-featured vim software and 'vi ' should work
> by default with arrow navigation.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Michael
Thanks. That solved 2 annoyances. Its too bad about the vim install.
Another of those things about Etch that doesn't make sense to me.
Mark
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Re: vim & kde questions
On 21:19 Tue 14 Aug , John K Masters wrote:
> On 14:44 Tue 14 Aug , Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give
> > Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second
> > computer
> > to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move
> > everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd
> > like to solve.
> >
> > First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I
> > want
> > to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is
> > opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the first position of
> > that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work
> > properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a
> > keyboard
> > mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it?
> >
>
> AFAIK this is not default behaviour for vim on KDE but I use Gnome on my
> desktop. Default install of vim is vim-tiny but I usually install
> vim-full and edit .vimrc to taste. Get it wrong occasionally but that's
> half the fun.
>
> I would suggest you look at your key mappings.
>
Or on second thoughts, set nocompatible in .vimrc
Regards, John
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Re: vim & kde questions
On 14:44 Tue 14 Aug , Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give
> Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second computer
> to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move
> everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd
> like to solve.
>
> First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I want
> to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is
> opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the first position of
> that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work
> properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a keyboard
> mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it?
>
AFAIK this is not default behaviour for vim on KDE but I use Gnome on my
desktop. Default install of vim is vim-tiny but I usually install
vim-full and edit .vimrc to taste. Get it wrong occasionally but that's
half the fun.
I would suggest you look at your key mappings.
Regards, John
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Re: vim & kde questions
On 08/14/2007 03:06 PM, Magnus Pedersen wrote:
> Mark Neidorff wrote:
>> First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and
>> I want to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a
>> new line is opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the
>> first position of that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the
>> arrow keys work properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal
>> problem or a keyboard mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is,
>> how do I solve it?
>
> Dunno, I don't see that kind of behavior from my Vim...
When calling the default install of vim-tiny as 'vim ', I believe
arrow-key navigation works, however, when calling as 'vi ', vim
behaves as the old-school vi (h,j,k,l) and the use of arrow-keys will
output control characters.
dpkg -l vim* |grep ^ii
Will likely only show vim-tiny installed.
aptitude install vim
Will get you the full-featured vim software and 'vi ' should work
by default with arrow navigation.
Kind Regards,
Michael
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Re: vim & kde questions
Mark Neidorff wrote:
Hi all,
After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give
Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second computer
to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move
everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd
like to solve.
First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I want
to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is
opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the first position of
that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work
properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a keyboard
mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it?
Dunno, I don't see that kind of behavior from my Vim...
Second...kde. I like KDE. When I saw the first versions, I thought it was
great. Moved me away from pure terminals in a hurry. Now that I'm using the
newest version, its got an annoyance that I'd like to shut off. Whenever I
put a CD or DVD in the CD/DVD drive, I get a pop up menu on the screen asking
me what I'd like to do now. To me, that's an annoyance and a waste of CPU
cycles that I'd like to get rid of, but I couldn't find an option in the KDE
configuration to turn that off. How do I turn off the looking for a CD/DVD
in the drive?
Control Center -> Peripherals -> Storage Media
/Magnus
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vim & kde questions
Hi all,
After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give
Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second computer
to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move
everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd
like to solve.
First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I want
to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is
opened and a character ("B" or "D" or ...) is put in the first position of
that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work
properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a keyboard
mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it?
Second...kde. I like KDE. When I saw the first versions, I thought it was
great. Moved me away from pure terminals in a hurry. Now that I'm using the
newest version, its got an annoyance that I'd like to shut off. Whenever I
put a CD or DVD in the CD/DVD drive, I get a pop up menu on the screen asking
me what I'd like to do now. To me, that's an annoyance and a waste of CPU
cycles that I'd like to get rid of, but I couldn't find an option in the KDE
configuration to turn that off. How do I turn off the looking for a CD/DVD
in the drive?
Thanks,
Mark
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