subject:"w3m"

Re: enregistrer une page web avec w3m

2018-08-27 Thread didier gaumet

Le 27/08/2018 à 04:18, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
[...]
> avec (e)links je peut enregistrer une page web 
> au format texte et je recherche à faire de même 
> avec w3m
[...]

d'après http://w3m.sourceforge.net/MANUAL :
 a ou d suivant que tu es en mode natif ou en mode émulation clavier Lynx

Re: enregistrer une page web avec w3m

2018-08-26 Thread Bernard Schoenacker




- Mail original -
> De: "Yves Rutschle" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Dimanche 26 Août 2018 22:00:21
> Objet: Re: enregistrer une page web avec w3m
> 
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 07:52:19PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> > j'ai des sites web qui me bloquent l'accès avec elinks et
> > je comptais employer w3m mais je n'ai pas trouvé les
> > commandes pour le faire ...
> 
> w3m -dump ou -dump_source peut-être? Sinon, la question
> n'est pas assez précise...
> 
> Mais pour enregistrer une page, le plus adapté est sans
> doute wget ou curl.
> 
> Y.

bonjour,

avec (e)links je peut enregistrer une page web 
au format texte et je recherche à faire de même 
avec w3m

merci

slt

bernard

Re: enregistrer une page web avec w3m

2018-08-26 Thread Yves Rutschle

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 07:52:19PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> j'ai des sites web qui me bloquent l'accès avec elinks et 
> je comptais employer w3m mais je n'ai pas trouvé les
> commandes pour le faire ...

w3m -dump ou -dump_source peut-être? Sinon, la question
n'est pas assez précise...

Mais pour enregistrer une page, le plus adapté est sans
doute wget ou curl.

Y.

enregistrer une page web avec w3m

2018-08-26 Thread Bernard Schoenacker

bonjour,

j'ai des sites web qui me bloquent l'accès avec elinks et 
je comptais employer w3m mais je n'ai pas trouvé les
commandes pour le faire ...

quels sont les autres butineurs de disponible en
mode texte qui laissent passer le javascript

merci
slt
bernard

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread Benny Simonsen

I want to share my experiences - I have not searched for an issue.

Same issue here - but not limited to terminal - occurs also in Graphical
mode (KDE). When the screen flickers it flickers both in GUI and terminal.

The flickering is fast moving left and right. Sometimes the top ~1/5 of the
display is displayed in the bottom.

I am not sure if the flickering is triggered by toggling windows (Alt-TAB)
or it just occurs randomly.

Closing the lid (suspend) and opening the lid again makes the machine
usable again.
I am using kernel 4.9.0-4 on a Lenovo E550:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev
09)
CPU: Intel Core i5-5200U

I have not tried using reverting to kernel 4.8.0-3 but the timing of the
issue matches well.

Br,
Benny

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread josh cha

Ok, thanks for the info.

On Jan 2, 2018 2:32 AM, "Tino Calancha"  wrote:

>
>
> >Instead the following fix works:
> >Create a file:
> >/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-fix-screen-flickering.conf
>
> >with content:
> >--8<-cut here---start--
> --->8---
> >Section "Device"
> >   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
> >   Driver  "intel"
> >   Option "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
> >EndSection
> >--8<-cut here---end
> --->8---
>
> Unfortunately the fix above causes another issue:
> switching between applications became slow with Xorg using > 70 % of the
> CPU.
>
> I see this issue with kernel 4.9.0-4.
> Smilar thing has been reported:
> As mentioned elsewhere kernel 4.9.0-3 doesn't show this problem; then, a
> temporary
> workaround is boot the system with a previous kernel <= 4.9.0-3
> Best regards,
> Tino
> From: Tino Calancha 
> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 19:31:46 +0900
> Message-ID: <87h8s4sga5@gmail.com>
>

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread Tino Calancha



>Instead the following fix works:
>Create a file:
>/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-fix-screen-flickering.conf

>with content:
>--8<-cut here---start->8---
>Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
>   Driver  "intel"
>   Option "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
>EndSection
>--8<-cut here---end--->8---

Unfortunately the fix above causes another issue:
switching between applications became slow with Xorg using > 70 % of the CPU.

I see this issue with kernel 4.9.0-4.
Smilar thing has been reported:
As mentioned elsewhere kernel 4.9.0-3 doesn't show this problem; then, a 
temporary
workaround is boot the system with a previous kernel <= 4.9.0-3
Best regards,
Tino
From: Tino Calancha 
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 19:31:46 +0900
Message-ID: <87h8s4sga5@gmail.com>

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-25 Thread Tino Calancha


FWIW I have been suffering screenn flickering in Debian 9 since 1 or 2
weeks ago.
The flickering is _very_ serious: it makes my box almost unusable.

Booting with kernel option:
i915.enable_rc6=0

significantly reduces the problem but it doesn't completely fix it.

Instead the following fix works:

Create a file:
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-fix-screen-flickering.conf

with content:
--8<-cut here---start->8---
Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver  "intel"
   Option "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
EndSection
--8<-cut here---end--->8---

Best regards,
Tino

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-19 Thread Aslam Sayyed

We had similar issues (flickering and continous moving of the screen 
horizontally) for 2 of our dell latitude 3460 running on Debian 9.3 configured 
with i915 driver. Observed that it was mostly on terminal with some key 
combinations like CTRL + C but happened randomly.

We choose advance option to boot in with old kernel 4.9.0.3 and issue seems 
resolved. Likely problem with kernel 4.9.0.4

Let us know if you need more info in order to fix issue.

Regards,
Aslam Sayyed

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-14 Thread davidson


On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, davidson wrote:


On Thu, 14 Dec 2017, josh cha wrote:


How do i fix screen flickering while scrolling and pressing down
buttion?  While im on my command-line applications like w3m?

I notice screen flickering while scrolling on down button. its a
problem since stretch release.


Does this happen all the time, or only occasionally?


I ask this question because I have noticed a similar issue (a terminal
flickering phenomenon that I first noticed after upgrading to
stretch), but it only occurs after I've resized a terminal (xterm)
while running a certain application (lynx) in the foreground. (I don't
use w3m.)

My workaround is to put the offending application (lynx in my case) in
the background before resizing its terminal, and not to bring it back
into the foreground without first restoring the terminal to its
original size.

Or, when using the affected application within a terminal multiplexer
like GNU screen, there are other workarounds available. (Namely, to
keep windows running applications susceptible to flickering-on-resize
hidden, until the terminal is restored to its original size.)

Basically, if OP's problem is the same problem I have noticed, the key
to avoiding it seems to be this: Never make the affected application
adapt itself to a resized terminal.

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-14 Thread davidson


On Thu, 14 Dec 2017, josh cha wrote:


How do i fix screen flickering while scrolling and pressing down
buttion?  While im on my command-line applications like w3m?

I notice screen flickering while scrolling on down button. its a
problem since stretch release.


Does this happen all the time, or only occasionally?


My laptop
Levono thinkpad T510
Core i5 450m
4gb
240gb ssd

Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-14 Thread josh cha

How do i fix screen flickering while scrolling and pressing down buttion?
While im on my command-line applications like w3m?

I notice screen flickering while scrolling on down button. its a problem
since stretch release.

My laptop
Levono thinkpad T510
Core i5 450m
4gb
240gb ssd

Re: w3m stack smashing?

2016-11-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer

Reco <recovery...@gmail.com> writes:


>   Hi.
>
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 19:22:02 -0600
> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Recently, I've been getting email messages that look like this:
>> 
>> *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/w3m terminated
>
> This is recently fixed bug #842623 in w3m.
>
>
>> This is with w3m 0.5.3-31, which appears to be the most current version
>> in Debian testing.
>
> Try 0.5.3-32 from the unstable.

Thanks -- upgrading now.

Re: w3m stack smashing?

2016-11-06 Thread Reco

Hi.

On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 19:22:02 -0600
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

> Recently, I've been getting email messages that look like this:
> 
> *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/w3m terminated
> === Backtrace: =
> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x70bcb)[0x7f03ee523bcb]
> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x37)[0x7f03ee5ac0e7]
> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x0)[0x7f03ee5ac0b0]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x54574)[0x560e882b2574]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x55974)[0x560e882b3974]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x3dd18)[0x560e8829bd18]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x3ec68)[0x560e8829cc68]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x3f076)[0x560e8829d076]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x42416)[0x560e882a0416]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x20e26)[0x560e8827ee26]
> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf1)[0x7f03ee4d32b1]
> /usr/bin/w3m(+0x2192a)[0x560e8827f92a]
> === Memory map: 
> 560e8825e000-560e8830f000 r-xp  09:01 5511742
> /usr/bin/w3m
> (lots more core dump lines deleted)
> 
> Am I seeing messages that are being sent from a buggy sender, or is my
> local /usr/bin/w3m blowing up and spewing the detritus into the mail
> message?

This is recently fixed bug #842623 in w3m.


> This is with w3m 0.5.3-31, which appears to be the most current version
> in Debian testing.

Try 0.5.3-32 from the unstable.

Reco

w3m stack smashing?

2016-11-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer

Recently, I've been getting email messages that look like this:

*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/w3m terminated
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x70bcb)[0x7f03ee523bcb]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x37)[0x7f03ee5ac0e7]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x0)[0x7f03ee5ac0b0]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x54574)[0x560e882b2574]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x55974)[0x560e882b3974]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x3dd18)[0x560e8829bd18]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x3ec68)[0x560e8829cc68]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x3f076)[0x560e8829d076]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x42416)[0x560e882a0416]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x20e26)[0x560e8827ee26]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf1)[0x7f03ee4d32b1]
/usr/bin/w3m(+0x2192a)[0x560e8827f92a]
=== Memory map: 
560e8825e000-560e8830f000 r-xp  09:01 5511742
/usr/bin/w3m
(lots more core dump lines deleted)

Am I seeing messages that are being sent from a buggy sender, or is my
local /usr/bin/w3m blowing up and spewing the detritus into the mail
message?

This is with w3m 0.5.3-31, which appears to be the most current version
in Debian testing.

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 07 October 2016 19:00:12 Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
> consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
> Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
> getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",

It works fine here.  Chrome 54 on Jessie.  Both fully updated.

Lisi

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Sunday 09 October 2016 12:28:03 Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that for the US
> stat of  Minnesota).

Except that it is Mongolia.  Country TLDs have to be unique.

Lisi

Re: Linux source address selection (Was Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.)

2016-10-12 Thread rhkramer

Hi Andy,

Thanks very much!  It looks like quite a comprehensive answer (including 
links) that I'll surely have to read more than once to absorb.  (At that 
point, I'll ask more questions if I feel the need.)

regards,
Randy Kramer

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18:38 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 04:23:45PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm not the OP, and I'm sort of piggybacking and going somewhat (or a
> > lot?) OT,
> 
> In that case it would be good to change the subject of the email.
> I've done so here.
> 
> > but I am curious about how old inet4 (right term?) and the new
> > inet6 addresses interact.

Other good stuff elided.

Linux source address selection (Was Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.)

2016-10-11 Thread Andy Smith

Hi rhkramer,

On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 04:23:45PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm not the OP, and I'm sort of piggybacking and going somewhat (or a lot?) 
> OT,

In that case it would be good to change the subject of the email.
I've done so here.

> but I am curious about how old inet4 (right term?) and the new
> inet6 addresses interact.

As the address family for IPv4 is "inet" (vs "inet6"), you could say
"inet", but then it may not be so obvious that you were intending to
make a distinction between IPv4 and IPv6. So, perhaps "inet4" is not
so bad, or IPv4. Some go as far as to say "legacy". :)

> When I do ifconfig, I see that eth0 has both a 32 bit (e.g., 192.168.1.19) 
> and 
> an inet6 address assigned.

On Linux, it would be best to get used to using the "ip" command
rather than "ifconfig". Issuing an "ip address" command will get you
all the configured addresses of the various families.

> Can anybody point me to a fairly short document that explains things like 
> which gets used under what circumstances

If we restrict the domain of this question to source address
selection then reading around from this point may help:

http://linux-ip.net/html/routing-saddr-selection.html

> does one have precedence over the other,

Clearly if there is just one inet address and one inet6 address,
then which will be chosen depends on which family the destination
address comes from. i.e., if the destination is an inet6 address
then the source address will have to be an inet6 address as well,
otherwise no communication will be possible¹.

If the destination address has been directly specified then that's
simple enough to predict.

Usually though, we are just dealing with host names that we wish to
communicate with. A host name is going to be presented to the
system's hostname resolution system, which may return a result from
/etc/hosts or some other database. More usually though it's going to
go out to DNS.

The DNS may contain both A (IPv4) and  (IPv6) addresses with no
regard as to whether the client actually has a source address of the
matching family. That is, if you had a host with only inet6
addresses and you did a DNS query, you would still receive A records
as answers. If amongst the answers there were no  records then
you'd have no way to communicate with the destination when the
application tried to do that.

It's the getaddrinfo() function of GNU libc that decides which
destination address to select for use. You can find more details
about that with "man getaddrinfo".

By default, if there are both inet and inet6 family addresses to
choose from, getaddrinfo will choose the inet6 one. So, if your host
has at least one configured global inet6 address then your
applications will tend to try to connect to inet6 destination
addresses, where available.

You can configure getaddrinfo's address selection in /etc/gai.conf.
A very common desire is to prefer inet addresses over inet6 ones,
and so on Debian the configuration required to do that is shown in
/etc/gai.conf commented out.

An application can be told to use a specific source address, but it
is more common for applications to be allowed to use any address. In
that case for inet it will generally be a reasonably simple case of
using the routing table to determine which source address is
"closest" to the destination.

For example, suppose you have an interface that has the addresses
192.168.1.1/24 and 192.168.1.175/25 on it. When attempting to
communicate with 192.168.1.180 the routing table will show that this
is in the same network as 192.168.1.175/25 and that that is the most
specific address.

When it comes to inet6 it can get a bit more complicated, especially
as it is much more common to have several inet6 addresses, and
you've got whole new concepts like privacy addresses and deprecated
addresses. But, it's all covered by RFC 6724, and this may help as a
summary:

http://biplane.com.au/blog/?p=22

> do they both use DNS,

As hopefully made clear by the above, it is not the addresses on
your system which "use DNS". It's more like your system uses DNS,
and the DNS may contain both inet and inet6 addresses, thus your
system decides which to communicate with based on which families of
address you have.

> and similar things which might let me make sense of the situation?

Hopefully that helped. It's quite a large topic, so some reading
will be required in many places to fully understand it.

Cheers,
Andy

¹ This ignores the various translation mechanisms that may in place
  to allow IPv4 networks and IPv6 networks to inter-operate. These
  can involve various kinds of NAT and DNS rewriting. Look into
  things like "NAT64" and "DNS64" for more information about these.

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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread rhkramer

I'm not the OP, and I'm sort of piggybacking and going somewhat (or a lot?) 
OT, but I am curious about how old inet4 (right term?) and the new inet6 
addresses interact.

When I do ifconfig, I see that eth0 has both a 32 bit (e.g., 192.168.1.19) and 
an inet6 address assigned.

Can anybody point me to a fairly short document that explains things like 
which gets used under what circumstances, does one have precedence over the 
other, do they both use DNS, and similar things which might let me make sense 
of the situation?

On Sunday, October 09, 2016 03:02:25 PM Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 10/09/2016 11:54 AM, claude juif wrote:
> > Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By
> > the way, how did you install them ?
>

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Tony Baldwin


On 10/09/2016 11:54 AM, claude juif wrote:
Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By 
the way, how did you install them ?


I WAS logged into my google account when I had the problem,  in fact, 
but eventually determined that when I logged out, I could load the 
proper page for the url, oddly.
I installed chromium with aptitude, google-chrome-stable by downloading 
google's .deb pkg and doing sudo dpkg -i $said-google-pkg.deb


To resume :
On your debian computer, only for this website, you get redirect to 
ads only with chrome/chromium ?


That is correct, Iceweasel, w3m, lynx and e-links all load the proper 
page/site.
Chrome and dolphin on my android phone do fine, as well, but apparently 
chrome on iOS (what my brother was using when he found the problem), 
does not.


I would try these :

purge chromium and chrome.
Install chromium and go to your website. (do not log in before).

The only things i can think of is broken extension. I've never see 
this happening, it's really strange. If that happens on windows i 
would have say, search for malware and delete them.




2016-10-09 15:00 GMT+02:00 Tony Baldwin <tonybald...@gmx.com 
<mailto:tonybald...@gmx.com>>:




On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:



But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard


Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
Thanks,

Tony
-- 
http://tonybaldwin.me

all tony, all the time





--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Joe Pfeiffer

Richard Hector  writes:
>
> It appears that Montenegro only came into existence (most recently) in
> 2006 - it was part of Yugoslavia, then 'Serbia and Montenegro'. So all
> the 'good' codes were presumably taken.

I'd imagine .me would, like .tv (Tuvalo) be one that a small country
could use to bolster their income quite a bit...

> I'm looking here:
> http://www.domainsherpa.com/country-code-top-level-domains/
>
> But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)
>
> Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread claude juif

Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By the
way, how did you install them ?

To resume :
On your debian computer, only for this website, you get redirect to ads
only with chrome/chromium ?

I would try these :

purge chromium and chrome.
Install chromium and go to your website. (do not log in before).

The only things i can think of is broken extension. I've never see this
happening, it's really strange. If that happens on windows i would have
say, search for malware and delete them.

2016-10-09 15:00 GMT+02:00 Tony Baldwin :

>
>
> On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>
>
>> But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
> Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
> --
> http://tonybaldwin.me
> all tony, all the time
>
>

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Tony Baldwin




On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:




But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard



Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
Thanks,
Tony
--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Richard Hector

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the
>>> State of Maine.
>> 
>> Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
> 
> Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I
> could think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the
> like, where .ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more
> sense. I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that
> for the US stat of  Minnesota).

That's Mongolia :-)

It appears that Montenegro only came into existence (most recently) in
2006 - it was part of Yugoslavia, then 'Serbia and Montenegro'. So all
the 'good' codes were presumably taken.

I'm looking here:
http://www.domainsherpa.com/country-code-top-level-domains/

But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Lars Noodén

On 10/09/2016 02:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
>>> Maine.
>>
>> Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
> 
> Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I could
> think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the like, where
> .ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more sense.
> I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that for the US
> stat of  Minnesota).
> Tony
> 

The complete list is all in ISO-3166.  It has two-letter codes as well
as three-letter codes.  ISO 639, in contrast, covers languages.  I'd
seen some sites mix them up.

Regards,
Lars

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Tony Baldwin




On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:

What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
Maine.


Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)

Richard



Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I could 
think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the like, where 
.ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more sense.
I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that for the US 
stat of  Minnesota).

Tony

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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Richard Hector

On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
> Maine.

Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Tony Baldwin




On 10/09/2016 07:11 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 08/10/16 07:00, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,


This is probably a long shot ... is it a recent chrome/chromium? It
seems to work fine for me in jessie.

Just wondering if it sees a url that doesn't start with www, and ends
with a slightly unusual '.me', and tries to 'autocorrect'. But .me is a
country code TLD, not one of the new ones as I first thought, so it
shouldn't be that.



my chromium is Version 53.0.2785.113 Built on 8.5, running on Debian 8.5 
(64-bit)
and my chrome is google's latest stable install within this past week, 
two weeks at most . Version53.02785.143 (64-bit)


What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of 
Maine.


Tony


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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-09 Thread Richard Hector

On 08/10/16 07:00, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
> consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
> Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
> getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
> If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,

This is probably a long shot ... is it a recent chrome/chromium? It
seems to work fine for me in jessie.

Just wondering if it sees a url that doesn't start with www, and ends
with a slightly unusual '.me', and tries to 'autocorrect'. But .me is a
country code TLD, not one of the new ones as I first thought, so it
shouldn't be that.

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-08 Thread tomas

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On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 11:35:21AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:

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> >Can you use the chrome developper tools to see what's going on ? (Press
> >the F12 key while chrome is open) Select the network tab, and type the
> >url in your address bar.
> >The network panel should show you what happens
> 
> That doesn't seem to tell me anything traceroute doesn't, except
> trqacerout doesn't get redirect to a Yahoo! search like chrome does,
> but nothing I see there seems ot clarify WHY or HOW it's getting
> redirected, it's just showing me that it IS being led though some
> circolocuitous route to where it should not.

A shot in the dark, but worth a try anyway: IPV4 vs IPV6?

But I'd rather suspect Chrome doing something weird to the URL before
resolving (or -- who knows! having its own built-in resolver).

Perhaps looking at the traffic with tcpdump/wireshark can give you
an idea.

Regards
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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-08 Thread Tony Baldwin

On 10/08/2016 11:28 AM, claude juif wrote:

2016-10-08 3:53 GMT+02:00 Anthony Baldwin <baldwinling...@gmx.com
<mailto:baldwinling...@gmx.com>>:

On 10/07/2016 06:42 PM, david...@freevolt.org
<mailto:david...@freevolt.org> wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big
brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in
Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy
landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine,
and nothing
has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by
an intruder
or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to
indicate
anything untoward or fishy.
The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror,
Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone,
though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page
loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic,
and how I
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

This problem sounds bizarre to me.

One less-than-obvious conceivable factor that occurs to me is that
some webmail interfaces (looking at you, gmx.com
<http://gmx.com>) will point urls in
email text at creepy redirects (presumably so that your email
provider
can log what you read).

But I'm typing the url directly into the browser, and not clicking
on a link in an e-mail.
Also, when I sign out of chrome/chromium-sync, it works fine again.
so yeah, definitely something very odd going on.

For example, a link labeled

http://playomatic.myownsite.me <http://playomatic.myownsite.me>

will point to

https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me

<https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/%5BSome-Alpha-Numeric-Code%5D/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me>

If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
yours, then following such links in emails might result in
unexpected
behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.

A shot in the dark, for what its worth.

As soon as I type in the url, it goes to
http://bridge.sf.admarketplace.net/bounce?click_id=1475940640200100010_width=1680_height=1050_width=624_height=860_top=5_left=33_iframe=0
whereas traceroute shows it going to my modem-> a local hub-> Comcast's
DNS server in Boston, then to New York, then jumping to Frankfurt ->
Munich, then the server I rent from Contabo which is in Munich, afaik.

Thanks,
Tony

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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-08 Thread Tony Baldwin

On 10/08/2016 11:28 AM, claude juif wrote:

2016-10-08 3:53 GMT+02:00 Anthony Baldwin <baldwinling...@gmx.com
<mailto:baldwinling...@gmx.com>>:

On 10/07/2016 06:42 PM, david...@freevolt.org
<mailto:david...@freevolt.org> wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:

How can I determine what's interfering with this page
loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic,
and how I
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

This problem sounds bizarre to me.

For example, a link labeled

http://playomatic.myownsite.me <http://playomatic.myownsite.me>

will point to

https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me

<https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/%5BSome-Alpha-Numeric-Code%5D/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me>

If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
yours, then following such links in emails might result in
unexpected
behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.

A shot in the dark, for what its worth.

Can you use the chrome developper tools to see what's going on ? (Press
the F12 key while chrome is open) Select the network tab, and type the
url in your address bar.
The network panel should show you what happens

That doesn't seem to tell me anything traceroute doesn't, except
trqacerout doesn't get redirect to a Yahoo! search like chrome does,
but nothing I see there seems ot clarify WHY or HOW it's getting
redirected, it's just showing me that it IS being led though some
circolocuitous route to where it should not.

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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-08 Thread claude juif

2016-10-08 3:53 GMT+02:00 Anthony Baldwin <baldwinling...@gmx.com>:

>
>
> On 10/07/2016 06:42 PM, david...@freevolt.org wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
>>> consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
>>> Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
>>> getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
>>> If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
>>> But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing
>>> has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder
>>> or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate
>>> anything untoward or fishy.
>>> The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
>>> Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.
>>>
>>> How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
>>> browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I
>>> can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?
>>>
>>
>> This problem sounds bizarre to me.
>>
>> One less-than-obvious conceivable factor that occurs to me is that
>> some webmail interfaces (looking at you, gmx.com) will point urls in
>> email text at creepy redirects (presumably so that your email provider
>> can log what you read).
>>
>
> But I'm typing the url directly into the browser, and not clicking on a
> link in an e-mail.
> Also, when I sign out of chrome/chromium-sync, it works fine again. so
> yeah, definitely something very odd going on.
>
>>
>> For example, a link labeled
>>
>>  http://playomatic.myownsite.me
>>
>> will point to
>>
>>  https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]
>> /dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me
>> <https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/%5BSome-Alpha-Numeric-Code%5D/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me>
>>
>>
>> If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
>> yours, then following such links in emails might result in unexpected
>> behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.
>>
>> A shot in the dark, for what its worth.
>>
>

Can you use the chrome developper tools to see what's going on ? (Press the
F12 key while chrome is open) Select the network tab, and type the url in
your address bar.
The network panel should show you what happens



>
>>
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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread Anthony Baldwin

On 10/07/2016 06:42 PM, david...@freevolt.org wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing
has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder
or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate
anything untoward or fishy.
The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

This problem sounds bizarre to me.

One less-than-obvious conceivable factor that occurs to me is that
some webmail interfaces (looking at you, gmx.com) will point urls in
email text at creepy redirects (presumably so that your email provider
can log what you read).

But I'm typing the url directly into the browser, and not clicking on a
link in an e-mail.
Also, when I sign out of chrome/chromium-sync, it works fine again. so
yeah, definitely something very odd going on.

For example, a link labeled

http://playomatic.myownsite.me

will point to

https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me

If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
yours, then following such links in emails might result in unexpected
behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.

A shot in the dark, for what its worth.

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translations, localization,
multilingual web development
EN, ES, FR, PT

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread davidson

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, david...@freevolt.org wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:

If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing has
changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder or any
such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate anything
untoward or fishy.

The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I can
stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

This problem sounds bizarre to me.

For example, a link labeled

http://playomatic.myownsite.me

will point to

https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me

If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
yours, then following such links in emails might result in unexpected
behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.

A shot in the dark, for what its worth.

My point here, which I may not have made clear, is that when you test
the site in each browser, make sure you are really requesting
http://playomatic.myownsite.me, not the redirect some email provider
may have replaced it with.

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread davidson

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Tony Baldwin wrote:

The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I can
stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

This problem sounds bizarre to me.

For example, a link labeled

http://playomatic.myownsite.me

will point to

https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/[Some-Alpha-Numeric-Code]/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayomatic.myownsite.me

If one of those redirects happens to be broken, through no fault of
yours, then following such links in emails might result in unexpected
behaviour not unlike what you are seeing.

A shot in the dark, for what its worth.

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread Anthony Baldwin




On 10/07/2016 02:32 PM, claude juif wrote:



2016-10-07 20:04 GMT+02:00 Anthony Baldwin <baldwinling...@gmx.com
<mailto:baldwinling...@gmx.com>>:

I can now also verify that the page loads fine n Dolphin browser on
my android device.

On 10/07/2016 02:00 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy
landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and
nothing
has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an
intruder
or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to
indicate
anything untoward or fishy.
The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari,
or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.


Hi, it works well in my Chrome Browser.

May be you have some proxy between, or a misconfigured /etc/hosts entry.

Did you try to load it with all plugins disabled ?


Thanks,
I use no proxy/ies, neither at home, nor on the remote server.
My brother, who brought the matter to my attention was also using chrome
. disabling my extensions doesn't seem to make any difference.
There appears no mention of the url in any of my hosts files (neither at 
home, nor on the server), nor anything that would redirect the IP 
address, since I can load other sites on the same server (and the 
myownsite.me domain) without troubles.

What else can I do?




How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in
some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and
how I
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

tia
tony


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multilingual web development
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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread claude juif

2016-10-07 20:04 GMT+02:00 Anthony Baldwin <baldwinling...@gmx.com>:

> I can now also verify that the page loads fine n Dolphin browser on my
> android device.
>
> On 10/07/2016 02:00 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
>> I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
>> consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
>> Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
>> getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
>> If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
>> But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing
>> has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder
>> or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate
>> anything untoward or fishy.
>> The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
>> Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.
>>
>
Hi, it works well in my Chrome Browser.

May be you have some proxy between, or a misconfigured /etc/hosts entry.

Did you try to load it with all plugins disabled ?


>> How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
>> browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I
>> can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?
>>
>> tia
>> tony
>>
>>
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> translations, localization,
> multilingual web development
> EN, ES, FR, PT
>
>

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread Anthony Baldwin

I can now also verify that the page loads fine n Dolphin browser on my 
android device.


On 10/07/2016 02:00 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing
has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder
or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate
anything untoward or fishy.
The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?

tia
tony



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EN, ES, FR, PT

url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

2016-10-07 Thread Tony Baldwin

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media 
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm 
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",

If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,
But in all of Iceweasel, lynx, w3m, elinks it loads fine, and nothing 
has changed on my server (no redirect added to my vhost by an intruder 
or any such thing), also neither ping nor traceroute seem to indicate 
anything untoward or fishy.

The only thing I haven't tried is Epiphany, Konqueror, Safari, or IE.
Oddly, it seems to work fine in chrome on my android phone, though.

How can I determine what's interfering with this page loading in some 
browsers, and not others? or what's redirecting my traffic, and how I 
can stop it or prevent future re-occurrence?


tia
tony

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Re: mutt, w3m and firefox

2016-06-13 Thread Johann Spies

On 9 June 2016 at 19:27, Morten Bo Johansen  wrote:

> On 2016-06-08 Johann Spies wrote:
>
>
> I use the following in ~/.mailcap:
>
>   text/html; chromium %s;
>   text/html; /usr/bin/elinks -force-html -dump %s; copiousoutput
>
> and in ~/.muttrc:
>
>   bind  attachview-mailcap
>   alternative_order text/plain text/html
>   unauto_view *
>   auto_view text/html


Thanks Morten,

The .muttrc-part did it for me.  Very usefull indeed.

Regards
Johann.

Re: mutt, w3m and firefox

2016-06-09 Thread Morten Bo Johansen

On 2016-06-08 Johann Spies wrote:

> Until a few weeks ago, I could open firefox from mutt by 'v' and then
> select the html-part of the email and press enter.
>
> Now firefox does not but w3m handles everything - which is not preferred
> when some links are important.

I use the following in ~/.mailcap:

  text/html; chromium %s;
  text/html; /usr/bin/elinks -force-html -dump %s; copiousoutput  

and in ~/.muttrc:

  bind  attachview-mailcap 
  alternative_order text/plain text/html
  unauto_view * 
  auto_view text/html

This ensures that when I open a multipart/alternative message,
the text part will be shown instead of the html part.

In pure html messages, they will be opened from the mailcap
line with the copiousoutput directive in it, which must be the
last of the text/html mailcap entries.

When you hit 'v' to specifically choose an html part from the
attachment menu, it will be opened in chromium instead.

  Morten

mutt, w3m and firefox

2016-06-08 Thread Johann Spies

Until a few weeks ago, I could open firefox from mutt by 'v' and then
select the html-part of the email and press enter.

Now firefox does not but w3m handles everything - which is not preferred
when some links are important.

I have in my .mailcap:

#text/html; firefox -new-tab %s & sleep 5; test=test -n "$DISPLAY";
nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
text/html; firefox -new-tab %s & sleep 5; test=test -n "$DISPLAY";
nametemplate=%s.html;
text/html; w3m -T text/html -dump %s; copiousoutput

When the first of the three lines is uncommented, every time I open an
email containing html it is opened in firefox - which is also not what I
want.
Also, when I select a bunch of messages to forward or to do something with,
every single one of them gets opened in firefox.

How can I get back the previous behaviour.

Regards
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w3m-img — ho w to switch between graphic and non-graphic mode?

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Dalfuß

Hello.
w3m-img adds the capability of viewing inline images with the 
framebuffer to w3m. Is there any key combo or command line option to 
switch between image and non-image mode? w3m with w3m-img is working, 
but i didn't find out yet how to switch back to text-only mode without 
uninstalling w3m-img.


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Mutt, w3m et encodage de caract ères

2008-11-22 Thread Christophe Gallaire


Bonjour à tous,

J'utilise w3m pour visualiser les mails en html depuis Mutt mais je bute sur un
problème : w3m gère assez mal les accents. Je ne dis pas qu'il ne
les reconnaît puisque, lorsque la page est chargée, il les affiche correctement.
Mais dès que je me déplace sur la page, les accents disparaissent et sont
remplacés par un esapce.

J'ai modifié le fichier /etc/w3m/config :

display_charset US-ASCII
system_charset US-ASCII

En 


display_charset UTF-8
system_charset UTF-8

Rien.

Une idée ?

@+

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Re: Can't access e-mail with w3m

2008-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2008-10-11 12:52 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 Another question:  isn't there in Debian an emacs-w3m package?

There are even two of them, called w3m-el and w3m-el-snapshot.  However,
you cannot install them concurrently, so you must which on to use.

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Can't access e-mail with w3m

2008-10-11 Thread Rodolfo Medina

I can't access my e-mail box when navigating with w3m: the following messages
are appear:


unable to get local issue certificate: accept? (y/n)

accept unsecure SSL session: unverified: unable to get local issuer certificate


.  Please, how to work this out?
Another question:  isn't there in Debian an emacs-w3m package?

Thanks for any help
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Mutt, html et w3m

2007-06-16 Thread Frédéric ZULIAN

Bonjour,

Afin de lire les mails que je reçois en HTML sous mutt j'utilise w3m.

Le problème : Comment répondre « simplement » soit en HTML soit en txt 
en reprenant le texte du correspondant.

Idéalement est-il possible avec un texte en HTML de  taper  « r » et d'avoir
le texte du mail auquel je répond inclus dans le nouveau mail ?

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Re: Mutt, html et w3m

2007-06-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 06:17:48PM +0200,
 Frédéric ZULIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 24 lines which said:

 Le problème : Comment répondre « simplement » soit en HTML soit en
 txt en reprenant le texte du correspondant.

Dans ~/.mailcap :

text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html '%s'; copiousoutput; 
description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html

(En plus de la ligne sur w3m.)

 Idéalement est-il possible avec un texte en HTML de taper « r » et
 d'avoir le texte du mail auquel je répond inclus dans le nouveau
 mail ?

Oui, cf ci-dessus.


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Re: w3m et les pages francaises

2005-10-07 Thread Frédéric Bothamy

* Eric Reinbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-07 06:27] :
 
 Bonjour tatousse,
 
 Je sais que ça n'a rien à voir avec Debian...
 
 w3m et les pages en français, sous Debian vous devez savoir comment on fait 
 pour avoir ça?
 (la page d'accueil de Debian...)

Le plus simple est ... de suivre les indications fournies sur les pages
Debian : http://www.debian.org/intro/cn. À noter que la section n'était
pas Other Behavior comme indiqué, mais Network Settings et l'option
était Accept-language header (et non Accept-language).


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Re: w3m et les pages francaises

2005-10-07 Thread Eric Reinbold

On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:05:22AM +0200, Frédéric Bothamy wrote:
 * Eric Reinbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-07 06:27] :
  
  Bonjour tatousse,
  
  Je sais que ça n'a rien à voir avec Debian...
  
  w3m et les pages en français, sous Debian vous devez savoir comment on fait 
  pour avoir ça?
  (la page d'accueil de Debian...)
 
 Le plus simple est ... de suivre les indications fournies sur les pages
 Debian : http://www.debian.org/intro/cn. À noter que la section n'était
 pas Other Behavior comme indiqué, mais Network Settings et l'option
 était Accept-language header (et non Accept-language).
 

Ok, super

Maintenant il y a un autre probleme, qui existait deja avant.

w3m, contrairement a w3mmee, m'affiche des '*' et '-' en vert tout le long de 
la page
(www.pcflank.com par exemple). Ca est tres desagreable.
Seulement, dans w3mmee, y a pas l'option Accept-language ...

Quelle est la meilleur solution: w3mmee en francais ou w3m sans les caracteres 
parasites?

Merci
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Re: w3m et les pages francaises

2005-10-07 Thread Eric Reinbold

On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Eric Reinbold wrote:
 
 w3m, contrairement a w3mmee, m'affiche des '*' et '-' en vert tout le long de 
 la page

Alors, pour ceux que ca interresse.
J'ai vu que dans les options il y a les couleurs,
alors j'ai mis black à la de green et ca le fait.

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w3m et les pages francaises

2005-10-06 Thread Eric Reinbold


Bonjour tatousse,

Je sais que ça n'a rien à voir avec Debian...

w3m et les pages en français, sous Debian vous devez savoir comment on fait 
pour avoir ça?
(la page d'accueil de Debian...)

Il y a bien cette option: follow_locale=bool mais qui se sert de LC_CTYPE.
LC_CTYPE (je sais pas ce que c'est) j'ai pas. Il n'y a pas une option du genre 
locale=fr?

Merci pour vos réponses.
Eric


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Re: w3m Alternative

2005-09-07 Thread Johannes Starosta

Klaus Schuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 elinks habe ich auch gerade gefunden. Ein seltsames Teil.
 Die Bedienung ist ersteinmal stark Gewöhnungsbedürftig.

Ich fand w3m schlimmer :)
Ich finde links2 ganz gut. Ist in sarge drin. Kann Bilder und in
beschränkten Umfang JavaScript.

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w3m Alternative

2005-08-29 Thread Klaus Schuehler

Hi,

gibt es einen Alternativen Konsolen Browser zu w3m der
Frames kann.

Viele Grüsse

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Re: w3m Alternative

2005-08-29 Thread Jens Mayer

On Monday 29 August 2005 11:32, Klaus Schuehler wrote:

 gibt es einen Alternativen Konsolen Browser zu w3m der
 Frames kann.

ELinks (http://elinks.or.cz/).

Gruss,
Jens


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Re: w3m Alternative

2005-08-29 Thread Klaus Schuehler



 On Monday 29 August 2005 11:32, Klaus Schuehler wrote:

 gibt es einen Alternativen Konsolen Browser zu w3m der
 Frames kann.

 ELinks (http://elinks.or.cz/).

 Gruss,
 Jens

Hi,

elinks habe ich auch gerade gefunden. Ein seltsames Teil.
Die Bedienung ist ersteinmal stark Gewöhnungsbedürftig.

Gruss

Klaus







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w3m e links nao navegam

2005-08-22 Thread unholycurse

E ai lista

Formatei um HD e instalei o debian testing netinst peladasso
instalei o w3m e da a mensagem
Opening sockets

e nao navega...
A rede esta ok e puxa arquivos do ftp, tb pingo sites http e da
retorno, o q pode ser isso?

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Re: w3m e links nao navegam

2005-08-22 Thread Marcos Vinicius Lazarini


unholycurse wrote:


E ai lista

Formatei um HD e instalei o debian testing netinst peladasso
instalei o w3m e da a mensagem
Opening sockets

e nao navega...
A rede esta ok e puxa arquivos do ftp, tb pingo sites http e da
retorno, o q pode ser isso?


Eu costumo usar o 'lynx'. Apesar de achar q deveria funcionar c/ o w3m tbm, 
tente com ele.


Será q vc está resolvendo os nomes direitinho? Ou é problema no site q vc tá 
acessando?


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Re: w3m e links nao navegam

2005-08-22 Thread unholycurse

cara, qual nao foi minha surpresa quando nem dei bola para o w3m e
segui isntalando as outras coisas... instalei isso aki:
xserver-xfree86
kde-core
xfonts-base
kde-i18n-ptbr

bem, qual nao foi minha surpresa, no kde funcionou o konqueror pra
navegar! (to escrevendo esse e-mail nele...)

fui no konsole e testei o w3m e tava funfando... vai entender, meu
debian eh maluko... o que sera q aconteceu?

Falow!

On 8/22/05, Marcos Vinicius Lazarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 unholycurse wrote:
 
  E ai lista
  
  Formatei um HD e instalei o debian testing netinst peladasso
  instalei o w3m e da a mensagem
  Opening sockets
  
  e nao navega...
  A rede esta ok e puxa arquivos do ftp, tb pingo sites http e da
  retorno, o q pode ser isso?
 
 Eu costumo usar o 'lynx'. Apesar de achar q deveria funcionar c/ o w3m tbm,
 
 tente com ele.
 
 Será q vc está resolvendo os nomes direitinho? Ou é problema no site q vc tá
 
 acessando?
 
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Re: w3m e links nao navegam

2005-08-22 Thread Marcos Vinicius Lazarini


unholycurse wrote:


cara, qual nao foi minha surpresa quando nem dei bola para o w3m e
segui isntalando as outras coisas... instalei isso aki:
xserver-xfree86
kde-core
xfonts-base
kde-i18n-ptbr

bem, qual nao foi minha surpresa, no kde funcionou o konqueror pra
navegar! (to escrevendo esse e-mail nele...)

fui no konsole e testei o w3m e tava funfando... vai entender, meu
debian eh maluko... o que sera q aconteceu?


Pode ter sido alguma instabilidade na rede no momento q vc estava testando...
Outro dia mesmo fui ajudar um Prof. a testar um notebook novo, e a rede não 
funcionava de jeito nenhum. Qual não foi a nossa surpresa ao descobrir que 
estavam mexendo nos servidores/switchs naquele exato momento? De quebra, o 
link externo tbm estava down. Vai ter azar assim lá na pqp! :-)

Para os curiosos: a rede do note estava perfeita ;-)

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Re: encodage de caractères avec w3m

2005-07-24 Thread Bernard Adrian

Bernard Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : 

 Si je change les ISO-8859-1* en UTF-8, les accents ne passent plus.

 Mes locales sont :

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 fr_FR ISO-8859-1
 fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] UTF-8

 Je suppose que le problème vient d'une des premières lignes du
 .w3m/config.

Bon, ça ne vient pas forcément du .w3m/config : si je lance w3m dans
un xterm unicode c'est impeccable.

Ca vient sans doute de mes locales...

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encodage de caractères avec w3m

2005-07-23 Thread Bernard Adrian

Bonsoir,

Je voudrais utiliser w3m qui me semble avoir beaucoup d'atouts. Mais
je bute sur un problème : sur ma machine, contrairement à elinks, il
ne reconnait pas les apostrophes sur les sites codés en utf-8.

Il s'agit bien de w3m et pas d'emacs-w3m.

Les accents passent bien, il n'y a que les apostrophes qui sont
affichées comme des ?.

Voici le début du ~/.w3m/config :

gb18030_as_ucs 0
strict_iso2022 0
use_jisx0213 0
use_jisx0212 0
use_jisx0201k 0
use_jisc6226 0
use_jisx0201 0
use_gb12345_map 0
fix_width_conv 1
search_conv 1
pre_conv 1
ucs_conv 1
use_language_tag 1
use_combining 1
use_wide 1
ext_halfdump 0
follow_locale 1
system_charset ISO-8859-1
auto_detect 2
document_charset ISO-8859-15
display_charset ISO-8859-1

Si je change les ISO-8859-1* en UTF-8, les accents ne passent plus.

Mes locales sont :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
fr_FR ISO-8859-1
fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8

[EMAIL PROTECTED] UTF-8

Je suppose que le problème vient d'une des premières lignes du
.w3m/config.

Quelqu'un aurait une idée ?

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w3m with lynx bindings

2005-07-22 Thread Miguel de Val Borro

I have installed the w3m package in Debian sarge and read in the
documentation that the lynx key bindings can be chosen at compile time.
I'm used to the lynx bindings, is it possible to get them in the package
or are w3m bindings more convenient in this case and I should learn them?

Thank you for any help,
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mit w3m im buffer suchen

2005-02-17 Thread Frank Terbeck

Hallo Liste,

Gibt es einen Weg wie ich w3m dazu überrede Matches zu
Suchpatterns im betrachteten Dokument hervorzuheben?
Ich kann bei Zeiten nämlich den Cursor vor lauter Zeichen nicht
wieder finden ;)

Lynx und Links machen das offensichtlich, w3m konnte ich bisher
nicht dazu bewegen.

Gruss, Frank



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w3m-ssl - howto?

2003-11-25 Thread Andreas Goesele

Hi,

my favorite browser is w3m but unfortunately I'm not able to get ssl
certificates to work correctly under w3m.

I have installed w3m-ssl (from woody) and set:

ssl_ca_file /home/myhome/.w3m/ssl-ca.pem
ssl_ca_path /home/myhome/.w3m/
ssl_key_file
ssl_cert_file
ssl_verify_server 1
ssl_forbid_method

ssl-ca.pem is a valid certificate file, successfully tested under
mozilla. I have no entries for ssl_key_file and ssl_cert_file. (What
are these? Do I have to have them? How would I get them? Is there a
howto for dummies?)

With this setting (and also if I leave ssl_ca_path empty) visiting a
certified site I get:

unable to get issuer certificate: accept? (y/n)

If I leave ssl_ca_file empty I get:

unable to get local issuer certificate: accept? (y/n)

Is there any easy way to make w3m accept the certificates contained in
ssl-ca.pem?

Thanks a lot in advance!

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browser w3m

2003-05-25 Thread Caio A. Ferreira

All

Por acaso alguem aqui na lista utiliza o browser w3m ? É que eu estou
com uma dúvida e não encontrei na documentação do browser.

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w3m

2002-10-21 Thread Markus Hansen

Hi.

Wie kann ich verhindern, das mit w3m die Webseite so weit nach rechts noch 
weitergeht?
ich will einen Zeilenumbruch haben!

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-22 Thread Preben Randhol


Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/09/2002 (10:01) :
 It pains me that you used that harsh language to describe my comment.

Sorry it wasn't my intention.

 just caught up in the excitement of the moment!  :-) Those are /bin/sh
 syntax, which I prefer better than anything that depends upon
 /bin/csh.  I don't know why you thought that was bash only. [*]

Somebody mentioned that it was only ash and bash that had this command.

 Those commands are defined by SUSv2.  I am pleased that I can refer
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   http://www.unix-systems.org/single_unix_specification_v2/xcu/type.html
 
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Re: Connecting urlview Mozilla, via w3m ?

2002-09-22 Thread Preben Randhol


Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/09/2002 (09:59) :
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:50:00PM +0200 or thereabouts, Preben Randhol wrote:
 
 Thanks. How does one express the option ... checking
 /usr/bin/X11 showed no mozilla or netscape.
 The other option - /home/adam/.mozilla - did not work in w3m
 ... we'll see. 

/home/adam/.mozilla is a directory not a program so you must type
/usr/bin/mozilla

But change the http_prgs line (in /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh) to:

   http_prgs=/usr/bin/mozilla:PW /usr/bin/w3m:XT

or if you do a : apt-get install galeon

   http_prgs=/usr/bin/galeon:PW /usr/bin/w3m:XT

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx


Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-22 10:10:49 +0200]:
 By the way there is a shell called bush which can be interesting (at
 least for scripting) : http://www.pegasoft.ca/bush.html

Interesting!  Thanks for sharing that.

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Mark L. Kahnt


On Sat, 2002-09-21 at 04:55, Preben Randhol wrote:

[SNIP!!!]
 
 Although it also puzzels me why people use mozilla when galeon has a
 much better interface.
 
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Galeon has a *different* interface, which for some proves to be much
better. It depends on individual tastes - once I imported my bookmarks,
Galeon never quite worked the way the original installation presented.
Mozilla works enough like Netscape that it is a familiar interface for
many people, and as Galeon depends on it anyhow, for some people it
becomes a question of Why use the extra code, when Mozilla is there
already?

It is a variation of the vi vs. emacs crusades, or Open Look vs. Motif,
or GNOME vs. KDE (or in some circles, Linux vs. BSD vs. the Hurd.) Trust
people to find which browser they prefer, based on familiarity, needs
and constructive individual experience - as long as it respects Internet
standards and doesn't launch viruses or worms, if it is effective for
the user, then good for them.
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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Robert Ian Smit


* Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-09-2002 10:56]:
 Although it also puzzels me why people use mozilla when galeon has a
 much better interface.

Agreed, one thing I miss though. (Please make my day if this is also
possible within Galeon.)

In Mozilla I could prevent websites to change the status-bar
message. I am not sure if this does what I think it does. But a big
annoyance is scrolling text that prevents seeing where a link is
pointing to. If I remember correctly, I never saw that in Mozilla.

Now we're on the topic of Galeon anyway. I am not sure that
zap-colors (a bookmarklet that changes for instance pink text on
yellow background to black on white). I haven't been able to do this
recently. I assume that this has to do with fancy stuff like style
sheets and other stuff I know nothing about. 

Does anyone know a website that this bookmarklet should work on? I
want to be sure I am not wasting my eyes when an obvious solution is
available that now is broken for one reason or another.

Bob

p.s. if you want to answer my question but are ashamed to reveal
knowledge of a website with questionable layout (and usually
content), please reply in a private message. I can keep a secret ;-)


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Preben Randhol


Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (11:51) :
 
 Well, obviously if you're using #! /bin/sh then you don't need to
 worry about what csh will make of it. Actually 'type' works in bash,
 ash, and zsh, while 'command -v' works in bash and ash. Both are
 extensions to the strict POSIX shell syntax, though.

but if you run which then you have trhis script (on Debian at least)
#!/bin/bash
unalias -a
unset -- $@  /dev/null
enable -n -- $@  /dev/null
type -p $@

so this should also work in tcsh as long as bash is installed ?

  Although it also puzzels me why people use mozilla when galeon has a
  much better interface.
 
 I can't stand galeon's interface: it feels too clunky and doesn't
 respond to me in the way I want. mozilla's interface is much smoother
 for me.
 
 That should prove that it's a matter of taste. :)

yes, indeed ;-)

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Re: Connecting urlview Mozilla, via w3m ?

2002-09-21 Thread Preben Randhol


Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (13:36) :
 Hi, I have now got w3m working with Mozilla on HTML attachments
 but in the case of urlview (^B to get a list of URL's in the
 message) the hard drive just grinds away and nothing happens.
 Is there a way of connecting 'urlview' to Mozilla, perhaps via
 w3m ?

check:
/etc/urlview/url_handler.sh

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Preben Randhol


Michael Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (15:53) :
 * Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-21 15:42:17]:
  Robert Ian Smit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (11:25) :
   pointing to. If I remember correctly, I never saw that in Mozilla.
  ^^^
  galeon?
 
 If you are reading what he wrote again, it says that he never saw
 scrolling text in the status bar in Mozilla, because of the option to
 turn it off. At least that is how I understand it.

Ah I understood it as he never saw the feature in galeon :-) Anyway you
can turn off the scrolling galeon too.

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Preben Randhol


Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (15:55) :
 
 I regard portable scripts as ones that work on systems other than
 Debian. In particular, I need that condition in my work environment.
 Also the script above has a bug that as far as I can tell can't be
 fixed properly without a complete rewrite (#94507).

ok so if I write a script I must spesify that it should be either ash or
bash. Do all versions of these provide command -v with the same
functionality?

Partability between UNIXes is not easy at all as most of the time the
commands take different flags so you need to make versions for the
different flavours. 
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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Colin Watson


On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:58:30PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (15:55) :
  I regard portable scripts as ones that work on systems other than
  Debian. In particular, I need that condition in my work environment.
  Also the script above has a bug that as far as I can tell can't be
  fixed properly without a complete rewrite (#94507).
 
 ok so if I write a script I must spesify that it should be either ash or
 bash.

No, the best thing to do for portable scripts is to specify /bin/sh and
use only standardized syntax. (Unfortunately the POSIX sh specification
is payware ... but SUSv2 at least comes close.)

Many systems don't have either ash or bash. Some that do don't have them
in /bin, so you can't just say '#! /bin/bash', and the #! executable
interpreter mechanism doesn't search the $PATH. /bin/sh is really all
you can rely upon there.

 Do all versions of these provide command -v with the same
 functionality?

Possibly. It's hard to tell as 'command -v' is an extension to POSIX,
not in POSIX sh itself.

 Partability between UNIXes is not easy at all as most of the time the
 commands take different flags so you need to make versions for the
 different flavours. 

That's why standards are there. Coming up with versions for different
Unix flavours should be avoided where possible - it quickly turns into a
nightmare.

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-21 Thread Bob Proulx


Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-21 15:09:40 +0100]:
 Possibly. It's hard to tell as 'command -v' is an extension to POSIX,
 not in POSIX sh itself.

It is used in SUSv3, however, and therefore should be good for anyone
that complies with that.  And actually that was specifically why I
included that in the list of possibilities.

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Re: Connecting urlview Mozilla, via w3m ?

2002-09-21 Thread Adam Bogacki


On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:50:00PM +0200 or thereabouts, Preben Randhol wrote:
 Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/09/2002 (13:36) :
  Hi, I have now got w3m working with Mozilla on HTML attachments
  but in the case of urlview (^B to get a list of URL's in the
  message) the hard drive just grinds away and nothing happens.
  Is there a way of connecting 'urlview' to Mozilla, perhaps via
  w3m ?
 
 check:
 /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh

Thanks. How does one express the option ... checking
/usr/bin/X11 showed no mozilla or netscape.
The other option - /home/adam/.mozilla - did not work in w3m
... we'll see. 
 
Cheers,

Adam.


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-20 Thread Bob Proulx


I'm curious. In what packages can you find these commands?
 apt-cache show mozilla-browser
  I think he was looking for 'type' and 'command', not 'mozilla'.

Oh, okay.  I parsed the grammer the other way.  The messages are the
almost same when the command you are looking for, mozilla in this
case, is not found.

 And they're builtin commands if 'bash' is your shell (and maybe others).

Hopefully lots of others.  Those are defined by standards such as
SUSv3.  I expect every standard shell to have them.  And by standard
that does leave out csh.  ;-)  But any shell that claims to be a POSIX
shell that could function as /bin/sh on a modern system should be good
to go for those.

Bob



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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-20 Thread Bob Proulx


DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-20 16:50:14 -0500]:
 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:20:21 -0600
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:
 
  unless I under-read the man page, can't do wild-card history searches.

For the record I did not write that.  csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
that.  I realize we both look the same on the computer display.  :-)

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-20 Thread DvB


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:

 DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-20 16:50:14 -0500]:
  csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:20:21 -0600
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:
  
   unless I under-read the man page, can't do wild-card history searches.
 
 For the record I did not write that.  csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 that.  I realize we both look the same on the computer display.  :-)


Hmm... I thought I was following up to the sender's
message... sorry. You do look exactly the same on my computer :-)


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Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread Adam Bogacki


Hi,
Mutt goes into w3m when I open a HTML attachment,
but when I hit 'M' to launch Mozilla, GKrellm shows the CPU
operating at 99% ... but no Mozilla.

I hit 'o' for the option menu and replaced the
external viewer option with '/home/adam/.mozilla' ... 
where is the error ?

Adam Bogacki,
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Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread DvB


Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
   Mutt goes into w3m when I open a HTML attachment,
 but when I hit 'M' to launch Mozilla, GKrellm shows the CPU
 operating at 99% ... but no Mozilla.
 
   I hit 'o' for the option menu and replaced the
 external viewer option with '/home/adam/.mozilla' ... 
 where is the error ?


Well... I don't know anything about mutt, but ~/.mozilla is usually a
non-executable directory containing configuration files for your mozilla
profile. I'd suggest using the correct execurable for mozilla. To find
it, try running which mozilla, minus the quotes and the comma from the
command line.


HTH


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Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit


* DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-09-2002 16:22]:
 try running which mozilla, minus the quotes and the comma from the
 command line.

Why did you put the comma there in the first place. Is it some kind
of notation I have never seen before?

Now it looks like: type which mozilla have a nice day without the
quotes and have a nice day.

;)

Bob


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[OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread DvB


Robert Ian Smit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-09-2002 16:22]:
  try running which mozilla, minus the quotes and the comma from the
  command line.
 
 Why did you put the comma there in the first place. Is it some kind
 of notation I have never seen before?


:-)

I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted
passage, the comma should be placed before the final quote. I understand
this isn't the case with British English, but I happen to live on the
new continent, so I figure I should follow local rules.
What's more, after looking at what I wrote, there really should be
another comma after the word comma and before the word from.


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx


DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-19 10:50:34 -0500]:
   try running which mozilla, minus the quotes and the comma from the
   command line.

 I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
 English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted

Ah, but languages were switched.  You were no longer talking American
English but Computer User.  When talking CU new rules are applied.  At
that time all literal strings are quoted exactly with characters you
wish the user to type.  :-)  I have taken to offsetting in a block
quote format just to be explicit.  And it makes cut-n-paste easier.

  which mozilla

But instead of that old csh script 'which' I prefer newer commands
such as 'command' or 'type'.  (Yes I see that on debian which is now a
bash script instead of a csh script.  But this is not true everywhere.)

  type mozilla

  command -v mozilla

Bob



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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread DvB


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:

 DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-19 10:50:34 -0500]:
try running which mozilla, minus the quotes and the comma from the
command line.
 
  I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
  English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted
 
 Ah, but languages were switched.  You were no longer talking American
 English but Computer User.  When talking CU new rules are applied.  At
 that time all literal strings are quoted exactly with characters you
 wish the user to type.  :-)  


You're probably right. It's hard trying to balance being pretty anal
about spelling and grammar (when I actually know the correct
spelling/usage, that is :-) and being a nerd.


 I have taken to offsetting in a block
 quote format just to be explicit.  And it makes cut-n-paste easier.
 
   which mozilla
 
 But instead of that old csh script 'which' I prefer newer commands
 such as 'command' or 'type'.  (Yes I see that on debian which is now a
 bash script instead of a csh script.  But this is not true everywhere.)
 
   type mozilla
 
   command -v mozilla


Those must be relatively new. I graduated from college pretty recently
and only learned

which mozilla

whereis mozilla

I've always known type as the DOS version of cat. I also never gave
much thought to how they were implemented before :-)


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread csj


On 19 Sep 2002 11:22:05 -0500
DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
  DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-19 10:50:34 -0500]:
[snip]
  I have taken to offsetting in a block
  quote format just to be explicit.  And it makes cut-n-paste easier.
  
which mozilla
  
  But instead of that old csh script 'which' I prefer newer commands
  such as 'command' or 'type'.  (Yes I see that on debian which is now
  a bash script instead of a csh script.  But this is not true
  everywhere.)
  
type mozilla
  
command -v mozilla
 
 
 Those must be relatively new. I graduated from college pretty recently
 and only learned
 
 which mozilla
 
 whereis mozilla
 
 I've always known type as the DOS version of cat. I also never gave
 much thought to how they were implemented before :-)

vega:~ type mozilla
type: Command not found.
vega:~ command -v mozilla
command: Command not found.

I'm curious. In what packages can you find these commands?


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Ian Smit


* DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-09-2002 17:59]:
 I was merely following commonly accepted punctuation rules for American
 English which state that, when a comma (or period) follows a quoted
 passage, the comma should be placed before the final quote. 

Oh man, now I can't sleep before I remember those rules for the
Dutch language. 

If I remember correctly those rules were relaxed. Only use a comma
if the meaning of the sentence dictates it or if it improves
readability. Makes sense to me, but have to be sure. Where's google?

Bob


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx


csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-20 07:21:58 +0800]:
 vega:~ type mozilla
 type: Command not found.
 vega:~ command -v mozilla
 command: Command not found.
 
 I'm curious. In what packages can you find these commands?

  apt-cache show mozilla-browser

Bob



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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Patrick Wiseman


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:

 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-20 07:21:58 +0800]:
  vega:~ type mozilla
  type: Command not found.
  vega:~ command -v mozilla
  command: Command not found.
  
  I'm curious. In what packages can you find these commands?
 
   apt-cache show mozilla-browser

I think he was looking for 'type' and 'command', not 'mozilla'.

Patrick

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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

2002-09-19 Thread Patrick Wiseman


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, I wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
  csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-20 07:21:58 +0800]:
   vega:~ type mozilla
   type: Command not found.
   vega:~ command -v mozilla
   command: Command not found.
   
   I'm curious. In what packages can you find these commands?
  
apt-cache show mozilla-browser
 
 I think he was looking for 'type' and 'command', not 'mozilla'.

And they're builtin commands if 'bash' is your shell (and maybe others).

So, OP, what's your shell?

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mutt and html viewers to specify w3m under x

2002-03-30 Thread Jason M. Harvey

hello,

i run mutt in Eterm. with $DISPLAY set, it launches galeon to view html,
but not only does galeon not find mutt.html (?), but i don't want to
spawn another window (galeon). so, i unset $DISPLAY in that term, and
mutt uses w3m to view html. this is nice, i like it better.
i just found w3m-img, (displays images even in Eterm) which is currently
in sid (i'm running woody, it installed just fine). 
my problem is, with $DISPLAY unset, w3m will not display the images. is
there any way, within mutt, to specify w3m to view html and not let
gnome use it's default?

tia,
jason

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Re: mutt and html viewers to specify w3m under x

2002-03-30 Thread dman

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:46:29AM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote:
| hello,
| 
| i run mutt in Eterm. with $DISPLAY set, it launches galeon to view html,
| but not only does galeon not find mutt.html (?), but i don't want to
| spawn another window (galeon). so, i unset $DISPLAY in that term, and
| mutt uses w3m to view html. this is nice, i like it better.
| i just found w3m-img, (displays images even in Eterm) which is currently
| in sid (i'm running woody, it installed just fine). 
| my problem is, with $DISPLAY unset, w3m will not display the images. is
| there any way, within mutt, to specify w3m to view html and not let
| gnome use it's default?

Put the w3m-img entry from /etc/mailcap at the top so that it is the
first handler found.

-D

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Re: mutt and html viewers to specify w3m under x

2002-03-30 Thread Jason M. Harvey

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:55:02AM -0600, dman wrote:
| On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:46:29AM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote:
| | hello,
| | 
| | i run mutt in Eterm. with $DISPLAY set, it launches galeon to view html,
| | but not only does galeon not find mutt.html (?), but i don't want to
| | spawn another window (galeon). so, i unset $DISPLAY in that term, and
| | mutt uses w3m to view html. this is nice, i like it better.
| | i just found w3m-img, (displays images even in Eterm) which is currently
| | in sid (i'm running woody, it installed just fine). 
| | my problem is, with $DISPLAY unset, w3m will not display the images. is
| | there any way, within mutt, to specify w3m to view html and not let
| | gnome use it's default?
| 
| Put the w3m-img entry from /etc/mailcap at the top so that it is the
| first handler found.
| 
| -D
| 
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| 
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| a haughty spirit before a fall.
| Proverbs 16:18
thanks again, dman!

the only thing is... it doesn't seem to be displaying the images... but
at least it doesn't launch galeon anymore. i'll give it a try like this
a few days and see what w3m does (with w3m-img).

thanks!
jason


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w3m (Re: Netscape 6.2)

2001-12-10 Thread Alec

On Monday 10 December 2001 12:57 am, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
 Karsten M. Self wrote:
  Karsten's Iron Rule of Browsers:  they all suck.
 
  http://kmself.home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
 
  ...but I take it back.  Galeon Kicks Ass®.

 s/GNU\///

 http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html

Speaking of browsers, how does one go back and forward in w3m?

Alec

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Re: w3m (Re: Netscape 6.2)

2001-12-10 Thread Brian Nelson

Alec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 10 December 2001 12:57 am, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
  Karsten M. Self wrote:
   Karsten's Iron Rule of Browsers:  they all suck.
  
   http://kmself.home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
  
   ...but I take it back.  Galeon Kicks Ass®.
 
  s/GNU\///
 
  http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
 
 Speaking of browsers, how does one go back and forward in w3m?

While in w3m, type H to see a listing of all the key bindings.  Or use
the cool w3m mode in emacs (from the w3m-el package) and use the emacs
menu bar to learn the key bindings.

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