Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James D. Freels wrote: There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect. Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat. This might be a libc problem. That seems to have been the problem with Netscape Communicator. Graphic intensive pages seemed to be one of it's first noticed crash and reboot sequences. Today, I just discovered StarOffice. I can already tell it is much better than wordIMperfect. Plus, you have all the other tools. Now if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use it... As I understand it, the english documentation is not yet completed. You could learn another language or two ;-) http://www.sound.net/~wpmills/ - : W. Paul Mills : Bill, I was there several years ago. : : Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. : Why would I want to go back tomorrow?: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Where were you! : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Linux: Tomorrow's operating system, : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :here, today. : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : compuserve 70023,1750 : #define MY_TRUE_LOVE computer: -- http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James D. Freels wrote:
There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect.
Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try
paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If
you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways
to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat.
This might be a libc problem. That seems to have been the problem
with Netscape Communicator. Graphic intensive pages seemed to be
one of it's first noticed crash and reboot sequences.
A libc, netscape, WordPerfect problem should _NEVER_ crash linux itself.
(for the kernel, libc is just a part any application like netscape/gcc,etc,
so bugs in libc should, just like bugs in netscape, not crash linux).
Do you guys really mean crashing linux, as in a solid system crash, not
be able to telnet into your mashine, etc? Or just a sigseg of
netscape/whatever?
Today, I just discovered StarOffice. I can already tell it is much
better than wordIMperfect. Plus, you have all the other tools. Now
if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use
it...
As I understand it, the english documentation is not yet completed.
You could learn another language or two ;-)
I speak Dutch, that's similar to German, but not enough to be able
to read it -- Yes, I've had German at school, and maybe enghough to be
able to read the documentation in emergencies, but not while I still
have Emacs/TeX.
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Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James D. Freels wrote: There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect. Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat. This might be a libc problem. That seems to have been the problem with Netscape Communicator. Graphic intensive pages seemed to be one of it's first noticed crash and reboot sequences. A libc, netscape, WordPerfect problem should _NEVER_ crash linux itself. (for the kernel, libc is just a part any application like netscape/gcc,etc, so bugs in libc should, just like bugs in netscape, not crash linux). Do you guys really mean crashing linux, as in a solid system crash, not be able to telnet into your mashine, etc? Or just a sigseg of netscape/whatever? In my case it was a crash as in the computer instantly rebooted! No lockup, no chance to telnet in, just reboot on its own. I know this should not happen. Netscape Communicator is the first program I have had crash linux. I have been running linux for several years ( since kernel 1.1.08 or so ). A libc upgrade did seem to solve the problem. Today, I just discovered StarOffice. I can already tell it is much better than wordIMperfect. Plus, you have all the other tools. Now if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use it... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.sound.net/~wpmills/ - : W. Paul Mills : Bill, I was there several years ago. : : Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. : Why would I want to go back tomorrow?: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Where were you! : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Linux: Tomorrow's operating system, : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :here, today. : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : compuserve 70023,1750 : #define MY_TRUE_LOVE computer: -- http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
W Paul Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James D. Freels wrote: There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect. Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat. This might be a libc problem. That seems to have been the problem with Netscape Communicator. Graphic intensive pages seemed to be one of it's first noticed crash and reboot sequences. A libc, netscape, WordPerfect problem should _NEVER_ crash linux itself. (for the kernel, libc is just a part any application like netscape/gcc,etc, so bugs in libc should, just like bugs in netscape, not crash linux). Do you guys really mean crashing linux, as in a solid system crash, not be able to telnet into your mashine, etc? Or just a sigseg of netscape/whatever? In my case it was a crash as in the computer instantly rebooted! No lockup, no chance to telnet in, just reboot on its own. I know this should not happen. Netscape Communicator is the first program I have had crash linux. I have been running linux for several years ( since kernel 1.1.08 or so ). A libc upgrade did seem to solve the problem. I had this sort of thing happen once too... I think I was playing with an early beta of the gimp. My take on it was that it took the X server down in some nasty way. The X server, of course, is running as root and thus should be more capable of buggering the whole system. Shouldn't happen, however... --sf -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
stephen farrell writes: My take on it was that it took the X server down in some nasty way. The X server, of course, is running as root and thus should be more capable of buggering the whole system. Shouldn't happen, however... The X server also has I/O privileges to the video card. If your video card is capable of being programmed in such a way as to jam the bus, their isn't anything the kernel can do. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect. Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat. Today, I just discovered StarOffice. I can already tell it is much better than wordIMperfect. Plus, you have all the other tools. Now if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use it... -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
