On 20 March 2022 09:56:53 UTC, Hideki Yamane wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:34:03 +
>"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
>> We've had the Code of Conduct for about eight years now and the Community
>> Team
>> for about as long. There are still significant differences about how some
>> people feel about them, despite the Code of Conduct having been adopted by
>> the
>> Project as a whole.
>>
>> How do _you_ feel about the Code of Conduct - and the role of a Community
>> Team?
>
> Well, we have the CoC, but all we do not read and think about it repeatedly,
> contrast to DFSG and Social Contract because the CoC itself is a kind of
> "common sense", IMHO.
>
> CoC itself is good, however, we've just created it - have the form but not
> the spirit (in Japanese "仏作って魂を入れず"). If we want to use it effectively,
> we should do some training during the onboarding process (and it's better to
> do it for existing members in each several years). We need more communication
> about it with our contributors.
>
>
> We need a Community Team to deal with some troubles for the project, and
> they do hard work (thank you), but I need more transparency about what they
> are doing (and did). Maybe it would be a sensitive and difficult thing but
> it's a necessary thing.
>
>
>
>> More widely: where something is adopted by the Project but opposition
>> remains -
>> how would you deal with differences of opinion and attempt to reconcile
>> different viewpoints to consensus?
>
> That is like a law - our parliament adopts something, but opposition remains
> ;)
> And we are an all different people and have a unique opinion, sometimes
> conflict with each other. Yes, there is a "gap," so all we apparently should
> recognize it. Currently, it's not (to me, at least).
>
>
> And if someone would do some violation to CoC, just banning is not healing.
> Asking them to go for counseling by professionals with project money is
> better,
> IMO. We are good at coding, writing, making some systems - but not counselors.
> After dealing with some cognitive trouble, then re-start talking.
>
> Maybe before and during their duties, the community team members would be
> better
> to get counseling since dealing with such trouble make them sick (or something
> wrong feelings), IMHO.
>
>
> To summarize:
> - Make the situation clear: what's wrong, and what it should be.
> - Train ourselves: to think about what is CoC and why we need it
> - We don't have to do all the work by only ourselves.
> Ask the professionals that we are not good at (of course I'll do so :)
>
>
>--
>Hideki Yamane
>
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