Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: tetrinet
  Version : 0.10
  Upstream Author : Andrew Church [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://achurch.org/tetrinet/
* License : Public Domain
  Description : client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

Included in this package you will find tetrinet which is a ncurses
client and tetrinet-server which is the server program. Together you can
use them to play tetrinet with friends over the internet.

The client requires 48 lines at least, but you get only one chat line
during the game, then.

The server doesn't seem to accept any special options or have a
configuration file, just one room with specials enabled.

 Don't take this description too serious, it won't be the final one for
the package, just a quick shot about what's going on (but still better
than those single line long descriptions :-/ ).

 About the name of the package: Discussable, but I don't really know
what to use else. The package is simply called tetrinet upstream.

 Please Cc me on replies (or keep the bug address in the list) so I
don't miss any valueable informations, I scan debian-devel only through
the archive.

 So long,
Alfie
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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 28/08/2003 à 12:35, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
  About the name of the package: Discussable, but I don't really know
 what to use else. The package is simply called tetrinet upstream.

Why not split into tetrinet-server and tetrinet-client?

Regards,
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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Alex de Landgraaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-28 13:52]:
 Would like to note that tetrinetx and gtetrinet are already in Debian.
 Tetrinetx is the game server voor tetrinet, gtetrinet is the gtk
 tetrinet client.

 I'm fully aware of this.

 Maybe something like tetrinet-ncurses is in order?

 Considering it, yes.

 In any way, having two tetrinet servers would probably break something

 Would break what? Sorry, we have tons of other servers doubled, like
apache and roxen; exim, postfix and sendmail; inetd and xinetd; xdm,
wdm, gdm and kdm...  What shall be different in this very case? Please
be a little bit more verbose...

 (and is redundant),

 Like the above.  Please don't say that if you haven't compared the
posibilities of the different things, otherwise your statement is moo.
I must confess that I haven't checked the real abilities of
tetrinet-server in this package but from what I see currently is that it
is very limited.  On the other hand, it is included in the upstream
source so it would maybe distract the upstream author if he see that it
is not included in the binary package.

 so at least take a look at tetrinetx and contact its maintainer to
 sync things...

 Can you sync postfix with exim, please? Sorry, this sounds strange...
It is not a spin off of tetrinetx, that's the way things work in the
open source/free software community. Different people try their own
approach. Only time will tell which will stay and which will pass away.
I for myself don't like to judge these things and say: let's kill this
off, it looks moo.

 Hell, you made me defend that little 16k piece of crap, well done :-)

 So long,
Alfie
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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Alex de Landgraaf
Would like to note that tetrinetx and gtetrinet are already in Debian. Tetrinetx
is the game server voor tetrinet, gtetrinet is the gtk tetrinet client. Maybe
something like tetrinet-ncurses is in order? In any way, having two tetrinet
servers would probably break something (and is redundant), so at least take a
look at tetrinetx and contact its maintainer to sync things...

Cheers, just my 2 cents,


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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-28 13:06]:
 Le jeu 28/08/2003 à 12:35, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
  About the name of the package: Discussable, but I don't really know
 what to use else. The package is simply called tetrinet upstream.
 
 Why not split into tetrinet-server and tetrinet-client?

 The server binary has only 16k compared to 61k client binary, and I
dislike the idea of the overhead for this small packages.  Beside that,
I don't think that I will provide an init.d script for it neither,
doesn't make much sense IMNSHO.

 I talked with fabbione a little bit about it, maybe I will leave out
the tetrinet-server binary completely, it doesn't offer anything fancy
anyway so people who like to have their own server running should rather
use tetrinetx.

 If I leave it out I might consider naming the package tetrinet-client
as a whole (for the binary -- I guess I'll stick with tetrinet for the
source package).

 I am wait for a reaction from upstream too currently. I will consider
his ideas on the topic, too.

 So long, and thanks for the input.
Alfie
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Newbies über das Netz her wie die Blätter von den Bäumen.
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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

2003-08-28 Thread Alex de Landgraaf
Quoting Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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  Hell, you made me defend that little 16k piece of crap, well done :-)

Wow, sorry for getting you all on the defensive :)
Just wanted to state that if the server in your package and tetrinetx were the
same thing (same source, same author) then it would be redundant. If they aren't
the same thing, then by all means package server and client. If we end up with
20 tetrinetservers, then I'll start whining about those 16k, just didn't realise
that there actually were different FLOSS tetrinet servers :)

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