Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Antoine Beaupré" * Package name: atheme-services Version : 6.0.0 Upstream Author : William Pitcock and others * URL : http://www.atheme.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : modular IRC services daemon Atheme-services is a portable, secure set of open source, modular IRC services, designed to run on many IRC server implementations. Unlike alternative packages, atheme-services' core is minimalistic, providing only core functionality. atheme-services is a complete services set, excluding features designed for oper abuse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111025162018.2549.33387.report...@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
It would help to know if the long-term-support concerns of upstream
have been dealt with since this program's removal last year:
http://bugs.debian.org/583327
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Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
To my knowledge there's no specific *policy* within Debian which
explicitly lays out how to deal with this particular circumstance in
detail. Common sense and courtesy, however, would dictate that you
abide by the wishes of the software's author(s) while possibly
engaging them in a civilized discussion to better understand their
position and any potential compromises (for example, working with
them to provide debs and public apt repositories integrated with
their version control and release scripts).
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Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
When it comes time to submit this for inclusion into the archive,
I'm definitely interested in reviewing and testing your package.
While I'm not a DD and thus can't sponsor the upload, I am a user of
atheme-services on Debian and have packaged several versions of it
myself for use on my own IRC servers so I'm pleased to hear upstream
has altered their position and am eager to see it return in Wheezy.
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Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:43:22 +, The Fungi wrote: > When it comes time to submit this for inclusion into the archive, > I'm definitely interested in reviewing and testing your package. > While I'm not a DD and thus can't sponsor the upload, I am a user of > atheme-services on Debian and have packaged several versions of it > myself for use on my own IRC servers so I'm pleased to hear upstream > has altered their position and am eager to see it return in Wheezy. All I have right now is whatever was in Lenny (3.0-4) so if you have packaged later versions, I'd love to get a hold of that. I am now a DD and can sponsor an upload, so let me know. :) A. -- À mesure que l'opression s'étend à tous les secteurs de la vie, la révolte prend l'allure d'une guerre sociale. Les émeutes renaissent et annoncent la révolution à venir. - Jean-François Brient, de la servitude moderne pgpGMLEs9QNd0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
Here is a ?partially? working .git tree containing a debian pkg for atheme-services_6.0.9. The atheme channel users were not nice to me so I want nothing more to do with them or there code. However I put some of my time into making this pkg and I'd like to see it make some one else happy. I'll assist where I can with atheme-services debian packaging. http://mikemestnik.net/wine/atheme-services-6.0.9-debian.tar.bz http://mikemestnik.net/wine/atheme-services-6.0.9_diff-cleaner-distclean.txt.bz2 Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f661b34.8070...@mikemestnik.net
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
On 03/18/12 12:28, Mike Mestnik wrote: > Here is a ?partially? working .git tree containing a debian pkg for > atheme-services_6.0.9. > > The atheme channel users were not nice to me so I want nothing more to > do with them or there code. However I put some of my time into making > this pkg and I'd like to see it make some one else happy. > > I'll assist where I can with atheme-services debian packaging. > > http://mikemestnik.net/wine/atheme-services-6.0.9-debian.tar.bz > http://mikemestnik.net/wine/atheme-services-6.0.9_diff-cleaner-distclean.txt.bz2 Ignore these, they were built off of false information. You might want to look at: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-irc/README?view=markup http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-irc/packages/atheme-services/trunk/debian/ These go up-to 5.0.1 and if I had based my work off of these then it might have been better. So I'm starting over. Now that I got myself all fixed up. I can get a little crabby in the morning, but I don't regret anything. > Thank you. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f6677d3.6060...@mikemestnik.net
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/ Fully usable package, needs mentor and upstream permission. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPZ+zzAAoJEEGHzDDLDhleo58H/1gwolMIc9W7Z72bi17Pe80e BA7heeeslsranIyg0Wsh6Kw78drSeQA++Pnqz1RiFbIPvC3NmdRnivedutRkeHk4 Mbpk40uUdaFH3u9XqUwEv4Zfs29Z3zpWd6d4EPKpfdSz5fI/eQ+dSt2M0txqdnDl hDVXoJ398TG1ceA75b8k5rkxrPA8ozLEStbUoGrneWWTn9AYFgmjh1oHeLVj5E4a 3tEV+IEbkWUX4FmVVQkRTtXqsu133b11X+XFsO3Vh3jqIKFKhg1RzOLw9fwFDcKR 171NBOrWvWdNW85rusXanRRNZrEvjKYIq/L+1zn4Uy9X+h43EBWAcpVwxY3Ra2c= =JD6J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f67ecf3.1000...@mikemestnik.net
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:35:31 -0500, Mike Mestnik wrote: > http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/ > > Fully usable package, needs mentor and upstream permission. I understood upstream has given permission for packaging, as noted in the bug report: "If you are planning to package Services for a package distribution, please stick to packaging only the longterm supported tree only. It will help us to ensure that your users are using software we still maintain. Thank you for your cooperation!" assuming this is the version you packaged, and there is no other issue, then I don't see why there needs to be permission, but perhaps you could detail that? micah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mx7bnd8i@algae.riseup.net
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
On 03/20/12 17:01, micah anderson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:35:31 -0500, Mike Mestnik > wrote: >> http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/ >> >> Fully usable package, needs mentor and upstream permission. The current state of the pkg needs a licensee review. I'm working to bring the pkg up to a releasable state for my own practice. I understand that it still needs a lot of work to be considered ready for inclusion. > I understood upstream has given permission for packaging, as noted in > the bug report: > > "If you are planning to package Services for a package distribution, > please stick to packaging only the longterm supported tree only. It will > help us to ensure that your users are using software we still > maintain. Thank you for your cooperation!" > > assuming this is the version you packaged, and there is no other issue, > then I don't see why there needs to be permission, but perhaps you could > detail that? Too much drama. Some users are familiar with Atheme's stance on packaging, so you'll be asked to not package Atheme by just about anybody. After so much time has passed it would be important to re-affirm permission and also determine who has the right to suggest to Debian that they would prefer there to not be a package and who has the right to grant permission. It would be important for any mentor to understand the landscape. We may have to disclaim that there is no support whatsoever from upstream of this package or at least inform users that a "handful of Atheme users" will angrily reject any requests pertaining to the Debian package. As far as Atheme's stance on this issue I have no idea, I can't even say with any certainty who Atheme is aside from the copyright Upstream Authors. Could any one of there objections prevent inclusion into Debian? It also should be noted that I have a mental illness, as I'm sure many can relate, in working with ppl. I really only understand the actions of computers and this causes humans to hate me, in my opinion unjustifiably. > micah > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f691005.7050...@mikemestnik.net
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:17:25 -0500, Mike Mestnik wrote: > Too much drama. Some users are familiar with Atheme's stance on > packaging, so you'll be asked to not package Atheme by just about > anybody. After so much time has passed it would be important to > re-affirm permission and also determine who has the right to suggest to > Debian that they would prefer there to not be a package and who has the > right to grant permission. > > It would be important for any mentor to understand the landscape. We > may have to disclaim that there is no support whatsoever from upstream > of this package or at least inform users that a "handful of Atheme > users" will angrily reject any requests pertaining to the Debian package. > > As far as Atheme's stance on this issue I have no idea, I can't even say > with any certainty who Atheme is aside from the copyright Upstream > Authors. Could any one of there objections prevent inclusion into Debian? > > It also should be noted that I have a mental illness, as I'm sure many > can relate, in working with ppl. I really only understand the actions > of computers and this causes humans to hate me, in my opinion unjustifiably. I appreciate you being straightforward about this. I have communicated with upstream and I think I have cleared those issues. I have talked specifically with William Pitcock which gave us a go on IRC and they have formally changed their website to reflect that, as I mentionned in this bug report earlier. If you are unconfortable to deal with upstream, please let me deal with them. I can operate humans maybe a little bit better, and I will not hate you for having trouble operating me. ;) I also have a good relation with upstream so far. In other words, I can mentor this package, given time. A. -- feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature - Mario S F Ferreira pgp8mPPW9NxiV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#646607: ITP: atheme-services -- modular IRC services daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/12 11:11, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:17:25 -0500, Mike Mestnik wrote: >> Too much drama. Some users are familiar with Atheme's stance on >> packaging, so you'll be asked to not package Atheme by just about >> anybody. After so much time has passed it would be important to >> re-affirm permission and also determine who has the right to suggest to >> Debian that they would prefer there to not be a package and who has the >> right to grant permission. >> >> It would be important for any mentor to understand the landscape. We >> may have to disclaim that there is no support whatsoever from upstream >> of this package or at least inform users that a "handful of Atheme >> users" will angrily reject any requests pertaining to the Debian package. >> >> As far as Atheme's stance on this issue I have no idea, I can't even say >> with any certainty who Atheme is aside from the copyright Upstream >> Authors. Could any one of there objections prevent inclusion into Debian? >> >> It also should be noted that I have a mental illness, as I'm sure many >> can relate, in working with ppl. I really only understand the actions >> of computers and this causes humans to hate me, in my opinion unjustifiably. > > I appreciate you being straightforward about this. > > I have communicated with upstream and I think I have cleared those > issues. I have talked specifically with William Pitcock which gave us a > go on IRC and they have formally changed their website to reflect that, > as I mentionned in this bug report earlier. Great! 6.0.10 is the latest and per upstream request the watch file will not try and pull anything other then 6.x. http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/ I've went over my pkg and had only one hold back from uploading it to mentors and that's the debian/copyright file. I've made a lot of changes and I believe it's in good shape but I feel it will need two things, both are two ways of saying the same thing thankfully. It should need to be forward ported from the pkg-irc version 2.2.0+hg20071209-1 and that's assuming it was correct at that time. I have merged this tree with Lenny atheme-services_3.0.4-1.diff, so we should be good up-to that point. The second task is to make sure that every file in the completed source tree is included in the copyright as the current copyright file lists the status of each file individually. http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/debian/copyright There is always something else I'll remember. The build log spits out a message about unnecessarily linking with libssl. I'm sure that's true of most of the binaries, but there must be one that makes use of it. To that end we need to make sure we are following current practices in regards to libssl copyright. * Note the pkg screams and dies if the embedded copy of libmowgli is used. One interesting note is that it would be possible for a user to build a package like this with -d, if this were removed. I'd like to extend the pkg to support this, but in that case the correct control file contains conflicts libmowgli. Regardless auditing of the pkg is necessary as it's my vary first and I've taken liberties. It's possible it's vary far from being usable. > > If you are unconfortable to deal with upstream, please let me deal with > them. I can operate humans maybe a little bit better, and I will not > hate you for having trouble operating me. ;) I also have a good relation > with upstream so far. There are a number of notes for upstream. 1. The libssl, I'm supposed to ask them to remove it. That is, for example, it's not necessary on most of the modules that currently link to it. 2. .hgtags in *libmowgli, they can remove these in the next tarball. >From what I gather these are files created by a VCS. > > In other words, I can mentor this package, given time. I don't think anyone has taken a good look at the pkg yet, so you may want to wait for it to sit on mentors for a bit so that I can say with some certainty that it's good to go. > > A. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPapw1AAoJEOPRqa2O3KuKn0sP/0a0IZXOxf+toyAKmGBBob+2 qq1h8Ih2B0rAaPkuNswwa7hjPzh5/lb+aKi/ZeVp1dG3mY4cSl2fMoRgNAl6hTSN bjbdPoMRZfT3fGYu787TQ1L0o1hbOurEGcZChheP/IX2O+TFwdXn17VVnKrgQpP1 DOCWtfpMNtqKaGiQQPNBluQ/9AlJyNxOY1G7yemXcHC5kuBY/U6ndwz3fHLMg20k R9IcABP8DXAQLHKhRVPloLlS00nJP8f8CR4+3EWM/BVmpQj5wqxMM/ROlH2PUrO/ 0yMDzFCUady2tnZnxExwT1iDJdWGb3yI+6KkQ/TLpLiFm/AlSFH++92IoGNYH9PY wxP/0Sn4K6VG8PYsQ80ijHrWt5JXmWoIoww+wbvELgqv7nPcfAJpRole3t2aaJob cMH+cLfcGaLAXeVfvVTilSTK8V33ioR9M2hTFjyplhp0VugvAXnkzWFUXVZF5pae H/M1rOhLLTJd/r02JmpMofHQS1DCwWTViGJJTVTKHRga2Uf826IBqwrAo/kh+TOF i1VId+5FuYHCV37RFYUQW4BnRM8RXjPEPxToROztBG2puuDYHB+1s1lFjKdoSiS/ JF57sq+yy5Jk+/Juv2RLwJTOXT5Lm/iPdWgh0Fpr/mACWb8z2B3+ZxQo5NA976Po r/mE1cVw0bsXyW7hNVCu =GWbb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
