Bug#263553: experimental not described on the release page

[Matt Kraai]

Package: www.debian.org

The experimental distribution is not described on the release
page.

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Re: www.debian.org/releases/ needs an update?

[Matt Kraai]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 03:09:28PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> I was updating the "ELUG Member use..." table at 
> http://www.elug.linux.ab.ca/links.html
> and found appropriate URIs for the stable, testing and unstable 
> entries - then noticed that "unstable/" wasn't used on the Releases 
> page.
> 
> Should there be a link to the third release in active maintenance,
> Unstable?  e.g.,
> 
> unstable
> 
> instead of
> 
> unstable

Thanks for reporting this.  I've added the link

> also
> 
> Now that Experimental is getting more use, does it deserve a mention 
> on the Debian Releases page?

I guess so.  I've filed a bug to this effect.

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Re: http://www.debian.org/devel/extract_key

[Matt Kraai]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:30:40PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Remco van de Meent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 14:00]:
> > Possibly you're already aware, but just to make sure: according to 
> > www.debian.org/devel, and especially the link mentioned in the subject 
> > line, it is possible to retrieve a developer's GPG key by fingering 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  Yes, but onfortunately there is nothing the webteam can do about it,
> rather than removing that paragraph from the webpage. Please check with
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and inquire there that it should be activated
> again. If they tell you that they won't you can come back to us so we
> can correct the documentation -- for now I hope that it will be possible
> to activate that feature again.

I've removed the paragraph in question.  Please let us know if
finger is fixed so that we can restore it.

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Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

[Don Armstrong]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004, Matt Kraai wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 07:26:29PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Aug 2004, Tobias Toedter wrote:
> > >"This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal
> > >in the huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to
> > >prevent them from having to subscribe to each and every list
> > >created by the Project."
> > > 
> > > The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still
> > > correct to use "them"? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just
> > > that I've never seen or heard such sentences.
> > 
> > That's definetly suboptimal in this case.
> 
> Why?

Them (and to a lesser extent, they) tends to indicate the
singular. While they is becomming a more common replacement for a
class of people, when we're talking about a specific position, a
singular form is generally more appropriate... but I suppose you could
have grammarians arguing for millenia over this issue.

That's why I suggest punting and avoiding the issue entirely wherever
possible.

Anyway, it's just a suggestion. Do whatever you feel works best.


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Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

[Matt Kraai]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 07:26:29PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004, Tobias Toedter wrote:
> >"This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal
> >in the huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to
> >prevent them from having to subscribe to each and every list
> >created by the Project."
> > 
> > The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still
> > correct to use "them"? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just
> > that I've never seen or heard such sentences.
> 
> That's definetly suboptimal in this case.

Why?

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Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:02:05PM +0200, Tobias Toedter wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:59, Matt Kraai wrote:
> > I've fixed the incorrect usages in the pages you listed (except
> > for one in a DPL candidate's platform).  It would be helpful if
> > someone checked the rest of the site.
> 
> First of all, thank you for this effort. However, English is not my first 
> language, that's why I wonder if it's common to use "they", "them", and 
> "their" when referring to a single person.

It's a reasonably common workaround for the lack of a real
non-gender-specific third-person singular pronoun in English, yes, and
has been in use as such for centuries.

There are occasional debates about its grammatical correctness, but I
believe that it sounds natural to most native speakers.

> At least in German this would be highly unusual (to say the least; I'd
> rather consider this a mistake).

I'd expect translators to handle it in whatever way is appropriate in
their language.

> Take this sentence for example (from vote/howto_proposal.wml):
> 
>"This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal in the
> huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to prevent them
> from having to subscribe to each and every list created by the Project."
> 
> The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still correct 
> to use "them"? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just that I've never 
> seen or heard such sentences.

That sentence doesn't feel at all unusual to me.

Cheers,

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Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

[Don Armstrong]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004, Tobias Toedter wrote:
>"This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal
>in the huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to
>prevent them from having to subscribe to each and every list
>created by the Project."
> 
> The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still
> correct to use "them"? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just
> that I've never seen or heard such sentences.

That's definetly suboptimal in this case.

What I'd suggest is the following:

"This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal
in the huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to
eliminate the need for the Project Secretary to subscribe to each
and every Project list."

Where possible, eliminate pronouns and proper nouns, if not possible,
use they|them instead of he|him, if not possible, use the proper noun.


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Re: Problem with stats on nm.debian.org?

[Don Armstrong]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-15 14:00]:
> > http://nm.debian.org/index.php shows "??" as the timings for "awaiting 
> > DAM approval". Is this a bug?
> 
> Maybe.  I looked at the code and it's not obvious to me what's going
> on, though.

It only shows stats for the last 2 months or so, so any fields that
can't have a value (eg, the DAM approval when no one was being
approved) get ?? instead.


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world, if you are interesting to meet these shippers, forwarders and logistic 
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Bug#263535: Add L4 port page

[Matt Kraai]

Package: www.debian.org

We need someone to create and maintain an L4 port page.

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From: Geir Frode Raanes S?rensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Various [Debian] port-like projects"
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:00:32 +0200
To: debian-www@lists.debian.org


Since you have put Beowulf up on the Debian CPU 
port list, I figured L4 might also have earned 
itself a place there[http://www.debian.org/ports]

http://l4ka.org/projects/l4linux/
http://www.l4linux.org/

But then again, they only use a debian ramdisk...

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www.debian.org/releases/ needs an update?

[Bruce Sass]

Hi,

I was updating the "ELUG Member use..." table at 
http://www.elug.linux.ab.ca/links.html
and found appropriate URIs for the stable, testing and unstable 
entries - then noticed that "unstable/" wasn't used on the Releases 
page.


Should there be a link to the third release in active maintenance,
Unstable?  e.g.,

unstable

instead of

unstable

If not, should I be using the Unstable URI?


also

Now that Experimental is getting more use, does it deserve a mention 
on the Debian Releases page?




- Bruce

Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

[Tobias Toedter]

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On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:59, Matt Kraai wrote:
> I've fixed the incorrect usages in the pages you listed (except
> for one in a DPL candidate's platform).  It would be helpful if
> someone checked the rest of the site.

First of all, thank you for this effort. However, English is not my first 
language, that's why I wonder if it's common to use "they", "them", and 
"their" when referring to a single person. At least in German this would be 
highly unusual (to say the least; I'd rather consider this a mistake). Take 
this sentence for example (from vote/howto_proposal.wml):

   "This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal in the
huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to prevent them
from having to subscribe to each and every list created by the Project."

The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still correct 
to use "them"? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just that I've never 
seen or heard such sentences.

Cheers,

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Re: le site prenoms.com ou familles.com!!!

[Pierre Machard]

Bonjour,

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:59:32PM +0200, sophie.le-corre wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> Je suis  inquiète  car  depuis  hier,je  cherche  à  accéder  au  site
> "prenoms.com" ou encore "familles.com" et je tombe  sur  une  page  de
> votre serveur;j'espère que ces sites  existent  encore  car  sinon  je
> serais extremmemment déçue!!!svp indiquez moi  au  plus  vite  comment
> accéder à ces forums,mes forums préférés!!!
>
> Cordialemment Mme Le Corre (si vous pourriez me répondre au plus  vite
> et dés aujourd'hui çàserait génial!merci beaucoup par avance!!!)

Nous ne sommes absolument pas responsables du serveur de familles.com ou
encore de prenoms.com. Debian est un projet internationnal dont
l'objectif est de fournir un système d'exploitation pour les
ordinateurs. En d'autres termes, les gens de familles.com et de
prenoms.com utilisent notre produit.

Pour en savoir plus sur debian, je vous invite à consulter la page
d'accueil de notre site www.debian.org


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Re: THINK ABOUT TRANSLATORS PLEASE, renaming in devel/debian-installer/News/2004

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* Nicolas Bertolissio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-02 22:27]:
> Le dimanche  1 août 2004, Kaare Olsen écrit :
>> "attic".
> 
> And how do I get the old files back so ?

 $> cvs status 
 $> cvs co -r 

 HTH & HAND,
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Re: http://www.debian.org/devel/extract_key

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* Remco van de Meent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 14:00]:
> Possibly you're already aware, but just to make sure: according to 
> www.debian.org/devel, and especially the link mentioned in the subject 
> line, it is possible to retrieve a developer's GPG key by fingering 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Yes, but onfortunately there is nothing the webteam can do about it,
rather than removing that paragraph from the webpage. Please check with
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and inquire there that it should be activated
again. If they tell you that they won't you can come back to us so we
can correct the documentation -- for now I hope that it will be possible
to activate that feature again.

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Re: le site prenoms.com ou familles.com!!!

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* "sophie.le-corre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 12:59]:
> Je suis inquiète car depuis hier,je cherche à accéder au site
> "prenoms.com" ou encore "familles.com" et je tombe sur une page de
> votre serveur;j'espère que ces sites existent encore car sinon je
> serais extremmemment déçue!!!svp indiquez moi au plus vite comment
> accéder à ces forums,mes forums préférés!!!

 I am sorry but have to reply in english; I don't speak french. But I
guess you are refering to the default page that pops up at familles.com.
They installed Debian, but the page has no connection other than using
the software to the project. You need to get in contact with the
administrators of those pages; the Debian team does not do that.

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http://www.debian.org/devel/extract_key

[Remco van de Meent]

Hi,

Possibly you're already aware, but just to make sure: according to 
www.debian.org/devel, and especially the link mentioned in the subject 
line, it is possible to retrieve a developer's GPG key by fingering 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


However, this does not seem to work anymore...  the finger results 
include common name etc., but no key information.



Thanks,

Remco

le site prenoms.com ou familles.com!!!

[sophie.le-corre]

Bonjour,
 
Je suis inquiète car depuis hier,je cherche à 
accéder au site "prenoms.com" ou encore "familles.com" et je tombe sur une page 
de votre serveur;j'espère que ces sites existent encore car sinon je serais 
extremmemment déçue!!!svp indiquez moi au plus vite comment accéder à ces 
forums,mes forums préférés!!!
 
Cordialemment
Mme Le Corre (si vous pourriez me répondre au plus 
vite et dés aujourd'hui çàserait génial!merci beaucoup par 
avance!!!)

Re: Sarge DVD .jigdo or .template file corrupt

[Richard Atterer]

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 05:00:31PM -0400, David M. Carney wrote:
> I built ISO's a few weeks ago, but accidently deleted them.
> 
> I have been trying again to to download them, but jigdo downloads the
> first 10 files, then tries to add them to the temp ISO file and craps
> out with an 153 error before it can get past 50%.

Please describe the problem in greater detail. Copy/paste the last screen
of jigdo-lite's output. How big is the .iso.tmp file that's left behind? 
Which OS/architecture?

> Are the .jigdo and .template files up to date?

Which ones? I haven't heard of any problems with the ones at
.

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"Various [Debian] port-like projects"

[Geir Frode Raanes Sørensen]

Since you have put Beowulf up on the Debian CPU 
port list, I figured L4 might also have earned 
itself a place there[http://www.debian.org/ports]

http://l4ka.org/projects/l4linux/
http://www.l4linux.org/

But then again, they only use a debian ramdisk...

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Bug#263395: www.debian.org: Broken [packages] links on http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php

[Andreas Metzler]

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal

Hello,
Every single [packages] link on http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php is
broken, it points to
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=given name+surname
instead of http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cu andreas

Re: Is Port 1983/tcp used by your website?

[Peter Karlsson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> I have detected from our users that they communicate below (where our
> internal ip address has changed to x.x.x.x) with your site which port
> 1983/tcp which is register as Loophole Test Protocol.

The IP address you mention (64.69.68.158) is not owned or used by the
Debian project. You will need to contact the owner of the IP address
for help.

  [whois.arin.net]

  OrgName:Peer1 Internet Bandwidth & Server Co-Location Facilities 
  OrgID:  PIBSCF
  Address:2100-555 W. hastings St.
  City:   Vancouver
  StateProv:  BC
  PostalCode: V6B 4N5
  Country:CA

  NetRange:   64.69.68.128 - 64.69.68.159 
  CIDR:   64.69.68.128/27 
  NetName:PEER1-VANCAT1VLAN1-03
  NetHandle:  NET-64-69-68-128-1
  Parent: NET-64-69-64-0-1
  NetType:Reassigned
  Comment:
  RegDate:2001-05-15
  Updated:2001-05-15

  TechHandle: MT1763-ARIN
  TechName:   Teolis, Mark 
  TechPhone:  +1-604-683-7747
  TechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-08-03 19:10
  # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

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