write access to webwml
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like write access to webwml so I can update some pages on the SPARC port and some debian-installer errata. My Debian username is joshk. Or should I just send a patch to someone who does have write access? Thanks - -- Joshua Kwan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQaLAfKOILr94RG8mAQJV6hAA0hvATpPEIY7I8lYjCH28i6353w3tPXQ4 QNNZaXjRrJRbnTJtLb/QQhuSoNom/3qzajsLL3aofQt0aTDXu3knTJOL9yHl5zd7 qv7iqthPgHTHv1tKTDo97wwuPyromNUV+KGqpCfT05JzLOOS7jEu8DKe2tgIdpEm mjqD0eUOhiTR+9Uc7E3u24FJbN1dYpBx75WDqVv9FTGgeTv3+UqcbbuXpbZJjQt/ r0LQADXGiYg00AMcWLxpCtq6mc9vPLeyiQDmKbGneBPh1Nuk1/lfgQFow9sdS9IS UE9jdyh4iLQtDEHLpyebQdnR6l7TVIAr9/CEUlpF9cWzpUaL/VlxjnJZTr7UGnGM ecERIt3UW7BRTMxBDZtYkXSado4X8ozLgBcIUC84ScQnXH5lTNoNghMuwlUzeJP1 0YVMNEFuyadCPyJEkEJlG6QfuN4y7f+jGaCgvlZ2r0bQ7xaL9b+xpSFOjSHh+OEq +8ShRWzaUrAxD/YLJuyo593atRjDA6Z92GuMYBM5W/e54dSv9iZY4IwATTlhBjk+ sin2FYtySalvjPW23OIQWGn4LCam8cA/A5aNua5mEJm57SAhnd0S1gywlTJQSIJf Lc8lxuHGBLPNXzHLT7b6D2MnwUKzralflqjv8HhCV7gRNXw2hLH2r6Mtp8/+mvMc z+wfEmm0IYQ= =1iRL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Proofread request for patch which fixes double words
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 12:15:25AM +0100, Jens Seidel wrote: > I applied a small script on www.debian.org and found again many many > typos where words occur twice. I attached attached a patch which fixes > these (for english/ only!!). Thanks for doing this. > I'm not sure about the following which is NOT included in my patch. > Please check: > > ./News/1998/19980522a.wml:packages have have been allowed into the > distribution as long as they were > ./security/1998/19981126.wml:If you have have installed fsp and a FTP > daemon, and do not want to have > ./vote/2002/platforms/raphael.wml:that just have have to be checked (by the > main team). Please fix these. > The patch contains also changes to devel/constitution* and > devel/secretary. Please confirm that it's OK to touch these files. > (PS: The fonts in the last mentioned file look strange and seem to > differ from other web pages, is this wanted!?) Please ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It would be nice if someone could proofread this patch. I remember that > I "improved" once a package documentation in a similar way where I was > wrong (English grammer!). > > Isn't it surprising how many typos can still be found in English pages? No. :) -- Matt
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:39:53PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 17:39 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: > > >The main navbar is currently not a list, why did you turn it into ? > >If you keep it as is, it is certainly possible to have layout > >unmodified > >for text browsers. > > Forgot to answer that. According to accessibility guidelines it is a > bad idea to put something, that is a list (for example a menu or > selection) into one line. Blind persons "see" just words and phrases in > a line. Again this is off-topic. If you want to promote CSS, let replace tables by CSS, then everybody can make his opinion, and if there are not much complaints, let's go further. > Another Thing are the remaining tables, now that I have included the > css for header and footer: > > According to accessibility guidelines, tables should _only_ be used > where one has a real table in it and _not_ for layout boxes. But the > main page and others are full of tables, which have only one sense: > making a layout. Another thing is, that tables cannot be parsed as good > as lists by other programs - not only by readers. [...] I am afraid that there is some misunderstanding. HTML pages are generated from templates, e.g. the main layout comes from http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/template/debian/mainpage.wml?cvsroot=webwml If you are able to replace tables and font commands in this file by CSS, all pages will take these changes into account. Of course some other files have also to be modified in the same directory, but it can be done later if we have no time just now. It looks like you already modified HTML pages, so I can grab your changes and propose a patch against this file, let me know where I can download your modified main page. Denis
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 17:39 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: The main navbar is currently not a list, why did you turn it into ? If you keep it as is, it is certainly possible to have layout unmodified for text browsers. Forgot to answer that. According to accessibility guidelines it is a bad idea to put something, that is a list (for example a menu or selection) into one line. Blind persons "see" just words and phrases in a line. Maybe, _you_ find it better looking, but those having no or very bad sight will find a one line menu or on in a table confusing. If necessary, I can post some links about accessibility. People having less sight problems may use a css browser. It seems to be quiet about Debian accessibility now, but we should have a focus on accessibility, though. Everyone should. Everyone can be the next. Another Thing are the remaining tables, now that I have included the css for header and footer: According to accessibility guidelines, tables should _only_ be used where one has a real table in it and _not_ for layout boxes. But the main page and others are full of tables, which have only one sense: making a layout. Another thing is, that tables cannot be parsed as good as lists by other programs - not only by readers. My suggestion: - For the main Menu, I would like to insert a line "Main menu" in front of the menu list. That looks nicer in W3M and lynx. It will be invisible with css (class hidecss). - The left menu could be put as a list in a box at the left (there is such a box prepared in the css, but white now. - The footer on the main page should be without tables, too and look like the other pages already do. About the other tables like on the devel main page, I have still no idea. It is possible to realise that with divs. My personal wish: I would like to have a page menu, where needed (like the devel page). The box on the left could be used for that. For now, I will make an example for the homepage with full css. But then you Debian people will have to decide, if you want me to go on. The work after that will take much more time than I am willing to put into the dustbin. For now my changes can be applied without any problem. As far as I have seen, there are no errors left. greetings Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org
Re: Examples Debian WWW with css
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 02:56:33AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > [...] > > My question again: Is it accaptable for you, what I have schown on the > > examples? > > > > One of the examples has the same look as current pages on graphical > > browsers, but will have _no_ lists in _one_ line for test browsers, > > which is assumed. > > The main navbar is currently not a list, why did you turn it into ? > If you keep it as is, it is certainly possible to have layout unmodified > for text browsers. And here is the main typical mistake. HTML code is NOT for layout. CSS is. In this case, whether you like it or not, the navbar is a list of navigation items, therefore, it has to be a list. Mike
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