Bug#1076199: www.debian.org: Webpage Debian-Installer add riscv64 other images link
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 04:22:32AM -0700, E Shattow wrote: > Please update to refer to riscv64 under the heading "other images > (netboot, USB stick, etc.)": > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I suspect this is mostly because debian-installer riscv64 support hasn't been uploaded to unstable yet, so it isn't on https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-riscv64/ or https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-riscv64/. I'm not sure what the plan for that is; somebody on debian-boot@ probably knows. Once that's done, riscv64 will need to be added to the devel-images-arches tag (and I suppose also trixie-images-arches) in webwml:english/template/debian/installer.wml. -- Colin Watson (he/him) [cjwat...@debian.org]
Re: Packages.gz priority different from package priority
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:20:27PM +0200, Roland Lezuo wrote: > While playing with a jessie amd64 mirror I observed some discrepancy > with debootstrap. When using the official mirror the package nfacct > ends up installed, while it is missing when bootstrapping from a local > mirror. > > While the package has priority: extra [1] it is listed with priority: > important in current Package.gz [2] for jessie/amd64 (and thus gets > installed by debootstrap, I guess). The checksum in Package.gz is > correct [3]. Yes. Priority and Section fields are routinely overridden by the archive administrators, and not necessarily updated in packages to match. If you want to build your own Packages files that match the primary archive's behaviour, then you need to fetch the appropriate override files from the "indices" directory and use those. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Re: Uninstall Debian
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 02:56:57PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > I see. It looks like they have installed an webserver (nginx) that > defaults to an index.html page saying "Welcome to nginx on Debian", > although that can be any Debian child distro, as Ubuntu, etc. Some of > this child distro may be configured for phones. My alternative theory is that some piece of possibly-malware is setting their phone browser's home page to some random misconfigured web site that happens to be running nginx on Debian. I have no actual proof of this though. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Re: Uninstall Debian
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 09:32:53PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > Can you share the screen shots? Are we talking here about android, > > i-phone or what? It is indeed an app? Or it is just the browser pointing > > to debian when open? > > The one person who did give screenshots had the "Welcome to nginx on > Debian" page open in a browser (not sure what OS, maybe Android) and > then some screenshots of the Debian nginx bug reports page, presumably > they clicked the bug reports link on the welcome page. Unfortunately > the screenshots didn't contain any URL and the person stopped > responding. No-one else has given any screenshots. We've had quite a few of these to owner@bugs as well; if they give any specifics at all then they're consistent with your analysis above. I've been replying with a form response for some time asking for more details, but not one of them has yet supplied any. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Re: Fwd: Re: [Wordfence Alert] designer89.com User locked out from signing in
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:14:18PM -0500, Viktor Sahni wrote: > This person keeps trying to hack my servers. Please handle your clients. > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Viktor Sahni" <viktor.sa...@gmail.com> > Date: Dec 22, 2015 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Wordfence Alert] designer89.com User locked out from signing > in > To: "Kartik Mistry" <kar...@debian.org>, "Viktor Sahni" < > viktor.sa...@gmail.com> > Cc: > > You've been reported; > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?ordering=normal;archive=0;src=nginx;repeatmerged=0 > On Dec 22, 2015 12:09 PM, "Viktor Sahni" <viktor.sa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > User IP: 46.148.18.162 points to nginx on Debian with bug report and your > > email address. Why is that? Kartik Mistry maintains the nginx package in Debian, but that doesn't make them (or, for that matter, the Debian or nginx projects as a whole) responsible for or even remotely related to everyone who uses it! It's free software, and anyone at all in the entire world with suitable hardware and internet connectivity can install it. Given that nginx is a piece of web server software, it's also pretty unlikely to be implicated in attempts to attack your system; I understand that you're looking for somebody to blame, but this really isn't a very sensible target. "whois 46.148.18.162" says: remarks:* remarks:* For spam/abuse/security issues please contact * remarks:* abusem...@infiumhost.com, not this address * remarks:***** ... so I would suggest that you start there, and you might actually get somewhere useful. Regards, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Re: wiki.debian.org password reset
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 10:39:31PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: Please recall our recent email regarding the moinmoin [1] vulnerability [2] and the penetration of Debian's wiki [3]. We have reset all password hashes and sent individual notification to all Debian wiki account holders with instructions on how to recover (and thereby reset) their passwords [4]. More technical details about the attack are available [5]. Thanks. I noticed that my passwords on wiki.debian.org and wiki.debconf.org were identical, but my password on wiki.debconf.org had not been automatically reset. Perhaps it's worth auditing for this, since I suspect this is not uncommon? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130107211909.gk21...@riva.dynamic.greenend.org.uk
Re: wiki.debian.org password reset
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 10:54:19PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:19:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 10:39:31PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: Please recall our recent email regarding the moinmoin [1] vulnerability [2] and the penetration of Debian's wiki [3]. We have reset all password hashes and sent individual notification to all Debian wiki account holders with instructions on how to recover (and thereby reset) their passwords [4]. More technical details about the attack are available [5]. Thanks. I noticed that my passwords on wiki.debian.org and wiki.debconf.org were identical, but my password on wiki.debconf.org had not been automatically reset. Perhaps it's worth auditing for this, since I suspect this is not uncommon? Hi Colin, That's a nice idea, but the two wikis are entirely separate and both store hashed passwords. It's difficult for us to tell if users are using the same passwords on each system. Ah, fair enough. Damn that security ;-) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130107231420.gl21...@riva.dynamic.greenend.org.uk
Re: Bug#651436: Acknowledgement (base-passwd: changelog is missing)
reassign 651436 www.debian.org thanks On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 07:32:24AM +, Malte S wrote: It is missing under: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/base-passwd -- Debian-Changelog http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/base-passwd/base-passwd_3.5.24/changelog Thanks. This site is not the responsibility of package maintainers, though, and I cannot fix anything there; reassigning to www.debian.org since the web site maintainers deal with this. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111212022505.gd3...@riva.dynamic.greenend.org.uk
reassign 515624 to www.debian.org
# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.10.35lenny3 reassign 515624 www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: homepage link incorrect
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 08:19:40PM +0100, Sven wrote: For your info: The homepage link (Homepage: http://suug.ch/~tgr/bmon/) on this site http://packages.debian.org/etch/bmon bring me the message The requested URL /~tgr/bmon/ was not found on this server. The correct link is: http://people.suug.ch/~tgr/bmon/ This list doesn't maintain that text; it's just mirrored onto the Debian web pages from the packages. Please report this as a bug against the 'bmon' package. If you haven't reported a Debian bug before, see: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Different copyright on the Bugs pages
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 10:20:19AM +0200, Jutta Wrage wrote: What is the reason for the pages in /Bugs/ havind a different Copyright? The normal footer trailer is excluded there: #use wml::debian::template title=Debian bug tracking system BARETITLE=true NOC OPYRIGHT=true Now it looks, if all the pages including their translations are owned by Copyright © 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997, 2003 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-1997 Ian Jackson. Isn't only the BTS itself under special copyright? The pages under /Bugs/ are derivative works of pages originally written as part of debbugs, and they're still maintained in loose sync (there are various differences in HTML style) with the pages in debbugs CVS. It's appropriate for them to have the same copyright notice as debbugs. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: italian mirrors update
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:34:49PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Kaare Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I found no mistakes in your patch I've submitted the updated Mirrors.masterlist. Thanks Kaare Olsen for applying the patch. I'll tell the bug reports they're fixed with this email and people can read http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2005/06/ for full details about how this happened. Hopefully this will help sarge installations. Sadly, I don't believe the debian-installer list will be updated now. I'll cc debian-boot just in case: can you update your mirror list, please? It happens automatically on every choose-mirror rebuild, but there are no more of those scheduled for sarge (and we can't fit one in, get it built, and get all the d-i initrds rebuilt without substantially slipping the release timeline). I happen to be preparing a choose-mirror upload to unstable now anyway, so it'll be included there. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.debian.org/distrib/archive provides obsolete information
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 01:45:34PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: i just recognized that the page regarding archive.debian.org (http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive) still refers to the archive pool and all of it's mirrors. archive.debian.org and many of it's mirrors are not available any longer. maybe you could update this page to mention the usage of archive.d.o in the past and list those mirrors that still keep the (outdated) archives. I don't think it's obsolete or meant to be down permanently. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Un-obfuscated email address listings
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 05:17:52PM +0100, J. Grant wrote: The solution to multiple copies of the email address would be to mangle it upon receipt of the bug, processing that input if you like, before it is copied and multiplied. That would be dreadful. This is a fundamentally e-mail-based system, and it's an absolute requirement to be able to contact bug submitters and commenters by replying to distributed mails in the normal way. We will not break that. Is debbugs actively being developed and extended? Somewhat actively. Do you think they would be interested to implement email address mangling? Not in the way you describe above. I'd be prepared to consider patches that tweaked the web interface a bit, but I wouldn't want to do anything more than some HTML-encoding. I can submit a bug if they are are interested in doing this. We are not short of bug reports about this problem. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unsubscribe to multiple lists not working
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Fendon, Charlene wrote: Someone who has malice towards me has subscribed me to 17 of your lists in various languages. They used my work email address and these lists are now impacting my work productivity. I believe that my out of office reply may have confirmed the subscriptions. I returned from vacation with 2000 emails to sort through. Last week I used your form to unsubscribe to these lists. I received a Subscription Request Processed page. I am still getting over 200 emails each day. Please take me off every list you find me immediately. Email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid that mailing the debian-www@lists.debian.org mailing list will be ineffective; the readers of this list do not have access to the list configuration, and cannot do anything about unsubscribing you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the general contact for list subscription problems. Good luck, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#264589: www.debian.org: Online manpages, preferably linked by package?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:55:58PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: - Man page conversion to HTML is done with man2html (available as Debian package), I already found some annoying bugs, e.g. in the link identifying heuristics. Have you looked at groff -Thtml, with a reasonably recent version of groff? Also, have you looked at the (very hackish, but surprisingly effective) way w3mman works? Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minor changes to german/devel/website/
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:48:41AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 08.09.04 12:53:21: attached, a small patch, including some minor changes to /webwml/german/devel/website/desc.wml and /webwml/german/devel/website/translating.wml I think your changes improve both pages, but I suggest to remove all typos you introduced (in a few lines of code!), this includes s/Grossteil/Großteil/ Isn't this simply new orthography versus old orthography? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#269189: Mail server reference card is outdated
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:41:27AM +0200, Loic Minier wrote: Package: www.debian.org Severity: minor Hi, I think the mail server reference card is outdated, for two reasons: - it states that you can't merge bugs which don't have the exact same tags, but you can (see below), Where does it explicitly state that? I don't see it (and indeed it isn't true). - it seems you can include multiple tags on the same tags line, but there is some mis-parsing. Now to give an example of the above problems, I was about to merge 197265 and 269115, with this: tags 269115 +patch +upstream merge 197265 269115 thanks But got: tags 269115 +patch +upstream Unknown tag/s: +upstream. Recognized are: patch wontfix moreinfo unreproducible fixed potato woody sid help security upstream pending sarge sarge-ignore experimental d-i confirmed ipv6 lfs fixed-in-experimental fixed-upstream l10n. Which is surprising: it seems the tag is somehow parsed, but the fact that it has a leading + doesn't match the list. I wonder if we're looking at the same version of the text. The current version includes examples: tags bugnumber [ + | - | = ] tag [ tag ... ] Sets tags for the bug report #bugnumber. No notification is sent to the user who reported the bug. Setting the action to + means to add each given tag, - means to remove each given tag, and = means to ignore the current tags and set them afresh to the list provided. The default action is adding. Example usage: # same as 'tags 123456 + patch' tags 123456 patch # same as 'tags 123456 + help security' tags 123456 help security # add 'fixed' and 'pending' tags tags 123456 + fixed pending # remove 'unreproducible' tag tags 123456 - unreproducible # set tags to exactly 'moreinfo' and 'unreproducible' tags 123456 = moreinfo unreproducible So, 'tags 269115 +patch +upstream' as you tried is a syntax error: you should use 'tags 269115 + patch upstream' instead. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:02:05PM +0200, Tobias Toedter wrote: On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:59, Matt Kraai wrote: I've fixed the incorrect usages in the pages you listed (except for one in a DPL candidate's platform). It would be helpful if someone checked the rest of the site. First of all, thank you for this effort. However, English is not my first language, that's why I wonder if it's common to use they, them, and their when referring to a single person. It's a reasonably common workaround for the lack of a real non-gender-specific third-person singular pronoun in English, yes, and has been in use as such for centuries. There are occasional debates about its grammatical correctness, but I believe that it sounds natural to most native speakers. At least in German this would be highly unusual (to say the least; I'd rather consider this a mistake). I'd expect translators to handle it in whatever way is appropriate in their language. Take this sentence for example (from vote/howto_proposal.wml): This is to prevent the Project Secretary from missing a proposal in the huge volumes of mail generated on some of our lists and to prevent them from having to subscribe to each and every list created by the Project. The Project Secretary is just one person, not a group. Is it still correct to use them? I'm sorry to bother you with this, it's just that I've never seen or heard such sentences. That sentence doesn't feel at all unusual to me. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Capitalized names.
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:47:01PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:38:11AM -0600, Debian WWW CVS wrote: Log message: use capitalized code names for Debian distribution names as discussed on the debian-l10n-german list long time ago I think it would be good idea to use capitalized code names *everywhere*, not only in German translation. The English codenames should be lower-case. Think Unix. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#260274:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:03:49AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:57:10PM +0200, Erik Schanze wrote: Ok, but what's wrong with it in this 111 cases? No debian/copyright in the source package. Since this is only a should in policy I can't file bugs against them ;) You can file bugs; they just don't get to be release-critical. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't remove outdated translations if the difference isvery small
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:22:17AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: PPS: I find it funny that we instate a removal policy for web translation content when our users suffer RC bugs in our packages (and other high-priority bugs) for months and those packages do not get fixed or removed. Using this as an example of why outdated translations shouldn't be removed implies that you think it's a good thing that packages with RC bugs (sometimes) aren't fixed or removed ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't remove outdated translations if the difference isvery small
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:47:21AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:22:19AM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote: No, I'm not trying to punish you, nor the Spanish translation team, and I'm not making this into a pissing contest. I am trying to help Debian provide a good service to its users. Having outdated information on our website is not providing a good service, which has been proven over and over again. There will be some collateral damage in the process, yes, but on the whole it is a good thing. Blindly removing content without verifying it is indeed outdated is no service to our users. I would like you to be aware that this actually has happened (I can produce examples if you like) and that this doesn't provide a good service to our users either. I wonder if more time is wasted for the translators who sometimes have to resurrect content, or for the users who turn up on #debian-boot having wasted hours of effort because five translations still link to the broken sarge CD images from fsn.hu ... (Possibly a bad example since the English version was only changed a week ago, mind you.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install is Hosed!!
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 08:12:45PM -0600, Robert Angell wrote: To whom it may concern: That would be debian-boot@lists.debian.org, not this list. Tried to install testing and there is a problem with the initrd-tools (this is where the install pukes). Someone needs to change the install script(s) to reflect this change to the newer version so that it can be diseminated to all of the mirrors/archives. I believe that this has already been fixed. Also, in installation reports please include a full transcript of the problem rather than just saying there is a problem; sometimes the problem may not affect everyone, and people may not have seen it before. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:31:32PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: On 2004-06-18 15:09:30 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On bugs.debian.org, we notice that there is a disallow directive in your robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your site. I cannot speak for Debian, but I suspect this is because generating the html version of the bugs site needs more CPU power than they are willing to give search engines for free. Speaking as one of the Debian bug tracking system administrators, although perhaps not for all of them: Since almost all of bugs.debian.org is dynamically generated and very densely hyperlinked (often to various different representations), crawlers tend to sit there for days on end wandering through it for relatively little gain. It's not uncommon for one of them to get totally lost in the list of bugs indexed by submitter, which really isn't relevant to them, and for one of us to come along some time later and wonder why somebody's making ten thousand extremely similar queries in sequence that take a few seconds each. That sort of thing is why the robots.txt entry is there. Maybe if you were to make some suitably large donation to cover the cost of adding that power, people would reconsider. It's mostly an effort/usefulness trade-off. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dead links
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:26:12PM +0200, ant wrote: Hello, on this page: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I can't start download neither of files, because, the links are bad , etc: http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso There are no links to beta2 any more anywhere in the debian-installer web site. Perhaps you're behind a broken web proxy? Even if beta2 were still available, you wouldn't want to use it. :-) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minor rewording for Bugs/Reporting.wml
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:30:38PM +0200, Tobias Toedter wrote: I think the description of how to report a bug with a MUA (instead of reportbug) should be updated. reportbug constructs a subject line of the form Subject: packagename: bug summary, and this is not explicitely mentioned as good practice in the section for MUAs. I've prepared a patch for this, and I'd welcome any comments on it (especially on the wording -- I'm not a native speaker). If not one objects, I would commit this (given that the grammar is alright). I don't know, this is kind of a 'reportbug'ism (or possibly a 'bug'ism, I can't remember ...). I certainly know people who think that putting the package name in the subject is redundant and wastes space that could otherwise be used for a more informative subject line, so I'm hesitant to recommend it in the bug system's documentation. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253973: packages.debain.org notice of change mailing list
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:03:53PM +1000, Simon Males wrote: Package: www.debian.org Severity: wishlist Each package for each distribution should have a notification list. Notification of new package/version. For example, I would like to know when another version of mono enters testing: http://packages.debian.org/testing/interpreters/mono So somewhere on that page would be a form to enter my email address. The changes list could be a cut down version of mailman. Or just a simple opt-in list. That prompt's subsribers of a new version. I think this is more likely to be in scope for packages.qa.debian.org, although it doesn't do notifications for testing at the moment as far as I know. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
[I've cc'ed you, guessing that you don't read debian-www; hope that's OK.] On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 01:04:13PM +0800, John wrote: There are some things, sadly, that Debian doesn't do well. I filed a bug report, and the maintainer closed it, disagreeing with my assessment of the problem. He courteously suggested I follow up with the technical committee. Hm, I'm not sure I'd have redirected a non-developer user to the TC as a first resort, but hey. Good idea, I thought, so off to www.debian.org, click on contact us. Hmm, nothing there but at the bottom, We also have a complete list of different jobs and e-mails to use http://www.debian.org/intro/organization to contact various parts of the organization. Okay, click on that and there I thought I found the pot of gold: # /current/ Martin Michlmayr # Technical Committee http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte -- debian-ctte@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-ctte@lists.debian.org Beauty. Sent mail off to that address and got this reply: You are not subscribed to this list, so your submission was rejected. Please subscribe to the list first and then repost your message. [...] PS If you really don't think you can open this address to everyone, then how about letting the bug reporting system handle it? I could just as easily have opened a but report against, say, technical-committe and we could discuss the matter and maybe find an amicable resolution or at least a clearer understanding. Ah, now, if you'd followed the link to http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte that you quote above ... :-) It's got a brief document on how to refer questions to the committee. 2. Write up a summary of the disagreement, preferably agreeing it with your opponent, and send it to the bug tracking system. Reassign the bug report to the pseudo-package tech-ctte. If there is no bug for the dispute yet, file one. Hope that helps, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
We (the d-i team) keep getting confused users showing up who have downloaded the *unofficial* testing CD images and then find that they don't work. This wastes our testers' time, wastes our time (since we don't have any oversight of how those CDs are created and are unlikely to be able to fix them), and d-i is now good enough and close enough to release that we really want as many people as possible to be testing the official images. Would anyone object if I removed these links from the CD/ tree? Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 06:12:33PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: CCing debian-cd just in case... On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: We (the d-i team) keep getting confused users showing up who have downloaded the *unofficial* testing CD images and then find that they don't work. This wastes our testers' time, wastes our time (since we don't have any oversight of how those CDs are created and are unlikely to be able to fix them), and d-i is now good enough and close enough to release that we really want as many people as possible to be testing the official images. Would anyone object if I removed these links from the CD/ tree? Do you mean you want to remove the links to the unofficial *stable* netinst images on http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/? I'm asking because the only *testing* netinst images that are mentioned are the debian installer ones. I'm a bit reluctant to see the links to the *stable* netinst images go - after all, stable is the one distribution we are supposed to support most. ;-/ Not talking about stable, only testing. The bits I'm talking about are: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by cjwatson: webwml/english/Bugs index.wml
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 06:01:09PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 05:29:25AM -0600, Debian WWW CVS wrote: Modified files: english/Bugs : index.wml Log message: Document severity: and tag:. May I additionally propose the following patch, since it seems to work: Index: index.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/index.wml,v retrieving revision 1.56 diff -u -r1.56 index.wml --- index.wml 21 Apr 2004 11:29:25 - 1.56 +++ index.wml 21 Apr 2004 15:56:41 - @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ labelinput type=radio name=which value=srcstrongsourcenbsp;package/strong/label labelinput type=radio name=which value=maintstrongmaintainernbsp;email/strong/label labelinput type=radio name=which value=submitterstrongsubmitternbsp;email/strong/label +labelinput type=radio name=which value=severitystrongseverity/strong/label labelinput type=radio name=which value=tagstrongtag/strong/label br labelWhat to search for:input type=text name=data value= size=50/label Yes, go for it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is redaction?
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 10:47:48PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: When I translate Debian webpages into Japanese I found a sentence which I cannot understand. webwml/english/devel/todo/items/60dwn.wml reads: Debian Weekly News is looking for contributors. They need some people who keep in touch with mailing lists and news websites to help in the weekly redaction of what's happening in the Debian world. ~ What is redaction? My dictionary doesn't have the word. You've had the explanations, but I think it should use a better word in English anyway. Redaction is quite a rare word, and I think many native English speakers would have to reach for a dictionary to figure out what it means. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Standards compliance of debian
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 11:34:48PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote: On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 20:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, can you tell me if Debian is compliant with LSB (linux standard base) and LFH (Linux filesystem heirarchy) ? The reason I'm asking the www email address is because I haven't been able to find that on the site's about section- can you tell me where it says that on the site somewhere, I believe that when you said LFH, you meant FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard). All Debian packages should be compliant, according to http://qa.debian.org/fhs.html. A note of caution: the page you quote covers only two particular aspects of the FHS we had a lot of trouble moving to, not the whole standard. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong indication in http://w.d.o/devel/testing?
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 12:39:25PM +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote: I'm searching for the code of the scripts used to perform the tests on unstable packages before accepting them into testing. According to the last lines of: http://www.debian.org/devel/testing they should be in the Debian CVS: :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/dak/testing but such module doesn't seem to exist any longer.. Please reload /devel/testing; I fixed this a few days ago. Indeed, I followed up to your post on this list about it, so this time I'm mailing you directly on the assumption that you didn't see my previous message. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong indication in http://w.d.o/devel/testing?
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 03:46:35PM +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote: I'm searching for the code of the scripts used to perform the tests on unstable packages before accepting them into testing. According to the last lines of: http://www.debian.org/devel/testing they should be in the Debian CVS: :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/dak/testing but such module doesn't seem to exist any longer.. These days it's here: http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_out_code/ I've updated /devel/testing accordingly. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#231893: mozilla-browser: linuxdoc.org - tldp.org in bookmarks
Package: mozilla-browser Version: 1.6-1 Severity: normal On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 11:49:03PM +0100, Stein Gjoen wrote: Andre Lehovich wrote: All web browsers should have Provides: www-browser in the package description. So a command like: $ apt-cache search www-browser Thanks for the tips. I looked at Mozilla: it uses www.linuxdoc.org which should be updated to www.tldp.org Here's a bug report, then. For the benefit of the mozilla maintainer, linuxdoc.org has only been there for compatibility purposes for the last year or two: the bookmark should be updated not to rely on it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connection time out on security.debian.org
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 02:09:37AM +0100, r.gelderman wrote: Are there problems with security.debian.org? I can't connect to the server. See this news item: http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2004/msg5.html PS: I'm a newbie on Debian, but I have never seen this kind of a problem on any Linux distro yet. Not a very good impression... Sorry, but nobody can avoid unforeseen problems happening sometimes. It's being worked on. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZIPs are password protected
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 05:08:28PM -0500, Ken Chilton wrote: From link on page: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/errata I arrive at: http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ The zips in this directory are password protected, and nothing nearby hints as to what they are! There's an explanation here: http://people.debian.org/~blade/ -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Your search engine search.debian.org is dead
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 03:05:35PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your search engine search.debian.org is dead, Mon Feb 2 13:05:00 UTC 2004. When it will be fixed? The machine hosting search.debian.org is currently down and isn't responding to its remote power switch; the situation is being investigated. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to create english/devel/people.names?
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:50:56PM +0100, Jens Seidel wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:07:08PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Jens Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-29 21:18]: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-www@lists.debian.org, Jens Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jens, your setup is broken. AFAIK you are not able to receive mails at [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, that's not related to my setup! The list server seems to add this. (You got many mails from me, how many of these contain [EMAIL PROTECTED]) You've told mutt somewhere that you're jens, without qualifying that into a full e-mail address. To avoid this being qualified as a last resort by the list server, tell mutt your full e-mail address. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#229070: Link on http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ broken
reassign 225416 www.debian.org merge 225416 229070 thanks On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 07:59:22PM +0100, Erik Schanze wrote: On german page of http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ the link Fehlerdatenbank-Howto to http://people.debian.org/~moshez/bts-howto.html is broken. This was reported (but on the wrong package) a while ago, and I contacted Moshe then to ask him to restore the page. He hasn't responded yet. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by peterk: webwml/english/News/weekly/2004/01 index.wml
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 04:10:33PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Debian WWW CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-08 13:08]: Log message: Rephrased paragraph about meta-gnome2, keeping it out hinders proper GNOME, not the other way around. Uhm, I am not sure if I understand your correction correctly: Can someone please proofread if the correction is in fact correct? #v+ codemeta-gnome2/code packages. He listed 13 packages that bear one or more problems. Each of them is a reason to keep codemeta-gnome2/code out -of the testing distribution, which is required for proper GNOME in sarge. +of the testing distribution, which stops proper GNOME in sarge. #v- From my understanding the old version was more clear. meta-gnome2 is required for proper GNOME in sarge. Oh, I see your misunderstanding: You think the which corresponds to the keeping out of meta-gnome2, not meta-gnome2 itself. But your change doesn't really clear what the which corresponds to. Can someone please suggest a rephrase to make it clear? Each of them is a reason to keep codemeta-gnome2/code out of the testing distribution. That package is required in order to have a properly working GNOME in sarge. (Also, you don't really bear problems, you simply have them.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ broken
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:02:10PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: The search functions of bugs.debian.org arn't working. I've tried searching on a bug by submitter and package, and both left me on the same page. Using bug number on this page also fails, but http://bugs.debian.org/number works. They seem to work for me. Could I have more details? (Also, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ is actually run by the web team, cc:ed.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Incorrect finnish translation at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:48:35AM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:53:17 +0900 From: Oliver Molini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-cd@lists.debian.org Subject: Incorrect link at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ --- Hi, I took the first e-mail address found on this page, so don't complain if it went to the wrong address, because finding e-mail addresses isn't really my job, since you're the ones who should keep the references correct. The error is in the finnish version of the page: Yksityiskohtaisemmat, askel askeleelta prosessin kulkua kuvaavat tiedot l?yd?t tiedostosta: *Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO*. HOWTO selvitt?? my?s jigdon kehittyneemm?t ominaisuudet, kuten vanhan CD-vedoksen p?ivitt?misen nykyiseen versioon (hakemalla ainoastaan muuttuneet osat, kokonaisen uuden vedoksen sijasta Text marked with **'s links to http://www.tlpd.org/HOWTO/mini/Debian-Jigdo/ although it should be http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Debian-Jigdo/ This may confuse some people. Please put someone on the team (possibly the people who are in charge of the finnish portion of the page) to fix it. Thank you. I've fixed this (took the liberty of doing so, actually, since I don't speak Finnish). The only other occurrence of tlpd in our tree was in hungarian/intro/about.wml, and I've fixed that too. The fix will be visible as of the next time the web site is generated. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian BTS pkgreport.cgi show me No reports found! about mozilla-browser.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 12:48:20AM +0900, Donggyoo Lee wrote: Thank to all. It fixed. For future reference, the contact address for problems with the bug tracking system is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who has full CVS copies of debian-www available?
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:07:00PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: In order to verify the integrity of the CVS archive, and restore the www CVS (and the generation of the website) [1] , it would be necessary to check the CVS _history_ (not just the last version) of all the files available in the CVS [2] [...] [2] If not we will need to import just the latest branch after checking it's integrity with offsite copies (which are more readily available) thus losing all the www CVS history. Isn't that an overreaction? I don't think it would matter *that* much if things not on HEAD were corrupted, particularly since webwml isn't a repository where people are liable to check out old tags and try to run them. In this particular case, I think it's clearly better to have history that may be corrupt in places than no history at all. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken link in www.br.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:15:24PM -0500, Roy at SEVENtwentyfour Inc. wrote: There appears to be a problem on this page of your site. On page http://www.br.debian.org/support when you click on Problemas conhecidos, the link to http://www.br.debian.org/release/stable/ gives the error: Not found. Heh, despite being robot almost-spam this was useful ... André, I've committed the obvious fix to portuguese/support.wml; hope you don't mind. I checked the rest of the webwml tree for this problem, and it was clean. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#202865: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ not linked from /devel/testing
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:05:51AM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:32, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:46:15PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote: Front end is two words, but otherwise, I don't see why this should not be added. If we're going to quibble about that then it should be hyphenated, namely front-end. That is the adjective form, though. The noun form should not be hyphenated. The New Oxford Dictionary of English lists: front-end: n. Computing; a part of a computer or program that allows access to other parts. The Longman Guide to English Usage says of hyphenation: American English tends to use fewer hyphens than British English, preferring words to be either separate or solid rather than hyphenated. Since I speak British English and not American English, I shall respectfully disagree with you here. (Of course, the Jargon File and other similar dictionaries seem to use the two forms interchangeably, but hey ... I just find the space ungainly.) The Jargon File and similar so-called dictionaries are hardly sources of profoundness when it comes to the English language. Please note that I only quoted it in order to disagree with it. I hope you'll remember that anything worth doing is worth doing right. I do, and have therefore committed this change with the spelling I believe to be correct. :-) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#210738: www.debian.org: link from /devel/ to bugs.d.o.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 11:59:25AM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: The bug tracking system is not listed on http://www.debian.org/devel/ it is an important resource to developers. IMHO there should be link to http://bugs.debian.org. I agree. Perhaps we could put it under Work in progress? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#202865: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ not linked from /devel/testing
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:11:30PM +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote: Package: www.debian.org Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-25 Severity: wishlist It's a great resource, I think it should be linked to. Is there any reason not to just do that? Index: testing.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/testing.wml,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -p -u -r1.17 testing.wml --- testing.wml 18 Sep 2003 16:07:07 - 1.17 +++ testing.wml 9 Nov 2003 03:15:20 - @@ -300,6 +300,10 @@ that are out of date for a href=http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/stable_outdate.txt;stable/a and a href=http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/unstable_outdate.txt;unstable/a./p +pBjouml;rn Stenberg has written a +a href=http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/;frontend/a to help you find out why +packages are being held out of testing./p + pYou might be interested in reading an older a href=http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0008/msg00906.html;explanation email/a. Its only major flaw is that it doesn't take the package pool Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proofreading From a Native English Speaker
[Apologies if you didn't want a private copy of this mail; I haven't worked out whether you read this mailing list.] On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 06:29:28PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:23, Joey Hess wrote: Alexander Winston wrote: Hello. It has come to my attention that you have requested English proofreading from native English speakers. While I have not looked over the Web site in great detail yet, a large error I have noticed that punctuation always seems to be missing from inside quotations. For example, I spotted this: no browser specific extensions. In this case, it should read thusly: no browser-specific extensions. This is common usage amoung technically inclined, to whom the exact content of the quotation, right down to the punctuation, is often very important. Regardless of how commonplace this usage is, it should not be accepted. Of course there are situations where punctuation exists in the original, but such predicaments can be explained away with a miniscule note from the editor without sacrificing the quality and the intended message. This is a disputed point of punctuation - in particular, standard modern British English and American English usages differ - so should not be accepted is too strong a statement. The style used on the Debian web site is known as logical quoting. Sources cite the Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors as support, among others. I understand that the American style, with punctuation within quotations marks, originated as a point of typography to make it easier to kern combinations of quotation marks, commas, and full stops, not as a point of grammatical correctness. Modern typography is better, which is perhaps why logical quoting is regaining acceptance. Given the disagreement among style manuals (which is not an uncommon occurrence anyway), I say go for the style that actually makes good sense, namely quoting what you mean to quote. When the punctuation is part of the quoted phrase, quote it; when it isn't, don't. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Change of e-mail address
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 01:43:22PM +0200, Axel Schlicht wrote: What is the easiest way to change my e-mail address on all the lists I am subscribed to (I read quite a lot of them). I am convinced there must be a much easier way than to unsubscribe under the old address and subscribe again under the new address. I'm afraid not. Write a script to do the unsubscription and resubscription for you: I have one which sends out the mails, but you could probably arrange to have something handle the confirmation messages for you as well. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wnpp and bug owners
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 08:29:55AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-12 23:35]: I'd like to commit the following patch to /devel/wnpp/. Any comments? Looks straight forward and reasonable to me. If it would be up to me I would say go ahead. On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:59:10PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-12 23:35]: I'd like to commit the following patch to /devel/wnpp/. Any comments? Looks good. Done, slightly belatedly. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Typo in apt-listbugs page on debian web site
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 09:55:22AM -0400, Lady Mark wrote: On this page : http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/apt-listbugs.html;, the word save in the following quote should be : safe. Quote : This tool aims to make the broken upgrade as save as possible. These pages are generated automatically from the corresponding package descriptions. A bug is already open about this problem (http://bugs.debian.org/191619), but if you find similar problems please report them as bugs against the packages in question following the directions at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wnpp and bug owners
So, we've now got bug ownership in the BTS, and it occurs that we could use this productively to improve the way wnpp bugs are managed. Up to now, when people accept an RFP or an RFA/O by retitling it to an ITP or an ITA respectively, sometimes they change the submitter address and sometimes they don't. Changing the submitter address has the disadvantage that the original submitter never gets notified when the new package is uploaded, and both have the disadvantage that the prospective maintainer doesn't receive mails sent to the wnpp bug. Bug ownership should solve this problem: people ITPing and ITAing reports should set themselves as the owner of the bug, which is the same as saying that they're taking responsibility for fixing it, and means that they'll get mail about the bug. (Please do NOT set yourself as a bug owner just to get this subscription property! We'll provide a facility for that fairly soon.) I'd like to commit the following patch to /devel/wnpp/. Any comments? Index: index.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/wnpp/index.wml,v retrieving revision 1.20 diff -p -u -r1.20 index.wml --- index.wml 24 Apr 2003 10:25:46 - 1.20 +++ index.wml 12 Sep 2003 22:32:07 - @@ -213,7 +213,8 @@ The format of the submission should be l td width=90%If you are going to adopt a package, retitle its bug to replace `O' with `ITA', in order for other people to know the package is being adopted and to prevent its automatic removal from the - archive. To actually adopt the package, upload it with your name in + archive, and set yourself as the owner of the bug. + To actually adopt the package, upload it with your name in its Maintainer: field, and put something like blockquote * New maintainer (Closes: #varbugnumber/var) @@ -232,7 +233,8 @@ The format of the submission should be l td width=90%If you are going to adopt a package, retitle its bug to replace `RFA' with `ITA', in order for other people to know the package is being adopted and to prevent its automatic removal from the - archive. To actually adopt the package, upload it with your name in + archive, and set yourself as the owner of the bug. + To actually adopt the package, upload it with your name in its Maintainer: field, and close this bug once the package has been installed. @@ -254,8 +256,9 @@ The format of the submission should be l td valign=top width=10%a name=howto-rfpbRFP/b/a/td td width=90%If you are going to package this, retitle the bug report to replace `RFP' with `ITP', in order for other people to know the - program is already being packaged. Then package the software, upload - it and close this bug once the package has been installed. + program is already being packaged, and set yourself as the owner of + the bug. Then package the software, upload it and close this bug once + the package has been installed. /td /tr /table @@ -270,8 +273,9 @@ in the package changelog saying what you tt(closes:nbsp;bug#n)/tt to it. This way the bug will be closed automatically after the new package gets installed into the archive. -pstrongAttention:/strong You can strongnot/strong reassign or -retitle bug reports by mailing the report number @bugs.debian.org, +pstrongAttention:/strong You can strongnot/strong reassign, +retitle, or set the owner of bug reports by mailing the report number [EMAIL PROTECTED], strongnor/strong by filing new reports. You have to send an appropriate message to the BTS control bot mdash; a href=$(HOME)/Bugs/server-control read the instructions for it/a! Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by peterk: webwml/swedish/distrib archive.wml
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 10:36:49AM +0200, Peter Karlsson wrote: Josip Rodin: Please note that the proper name of a release doesn't have a capital letter. Proper names have capital letters, so I am always writing the release names with upper-case letters, and fixing those that I have missed earlier. BTW, I also believe the usage of the release names without initial capital is incorrect in the English pages. It's not conventional English grammar, but it's universal usage and correct in context. Unix is case-sensitive. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#207455: acknowledged by developer
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 08:32:59AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: Note that I think UTF-8 environment will not be popular until several basic features (like manpages) will be UTF-8-ready. What's wrong with UTF-8 man pages? You can't *write* them in UTF-8, true, but they should be perfectly readable in such locales. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#207455: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#207455: packages.debian.org: HTML-encodes multi-byte characters as single bytes)
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 03:22:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 06:57:51AM +0200, Martin Godisch wrote: UTF-8 multi-byte characters in package descriptions appear single- character encoded on packages.d.o. Uh, yeah, because, like, the encoding of the description is not regulated? File bugs on the broken packages or something. Why is a package considered broken when its description is UTF-8 encoded? Because, like, there's no rule allowing it to use UTF-8? If you're going to use top-bit-set characters at all, it's the only sane encoding. We just need dpkg and apt to recode on output. (It'll be a lot easier to get UTF-8 accepted everywhere if tools like packages.debian.org start supporting it.) Policy requires changelogs to be UTF-8 encoded Changelogs are not descriptions. Don't try to bend our arm with stupid red herrings like that. He went on to point out that the Maintainer: in changelog and control needs to match, and control contains the description so it makes sense for it to be in the same encoding. Encodings tend to propagate. (BTW, ITYM twist our arms ...) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webwml cvs
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:02:41PM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote: Did some configuration just change for the webwml cvs? I can no longer connect using cvs over ssh, I get protocol major version differ from cvs whenever I try. That's an error message from ssh. Try protocol 2 or protocol 1, whichever you're not currently using? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New version of nm-step2
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:41:21AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Sunday, Aug 17, 2003, at 19:50 US/Eastern, Andrew Suffield wrote: A few weeks after registering, if you still haven't received any offers, then you can send e-mail to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] telling them precisely where you live (give the names of some big cities close to you). Alternatively, If you don't receive any offers within a few weeks of registering, then you may [not can, you always can] Now, precisely and some close big cities don't seem to fit together too well. Maybe, ...telling them precisely where you live as well as the closest major cities. I think the sense is not please give us your ICBM coordinates but please say where you live in more detail than just your country. I'd rephrase to something like this, maybe: ... telling them where you live so that somebody near you can be found (give the names of some big cities close to you) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by kraai: webwml/english/intro cn.wml
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:49:44AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Debian WWW CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-13 20:24]: Modified files: english/intro : cn.wml Log message: Add instructions on how to set the preferred language in Mozilla Firebird. Just a thought, but wouldn't it be sufficient to name the anchor firebird instead of mozillafirebird only? Is it that common to call it with the full name? It's the proper name for it: http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap/branding.html (beware, marketing). Part of this is to actively avoid confusion with other projects called Firebird, I think. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#204855: marked as done (www.debian.org: Sentence does not make much sense...)
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 10:54:27PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 03:33:14PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: This sentence does not make much sense: Make sure that the To field of your message to the author to has only the author(s) address(es) in it; put both the person who reported the bug and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the CC field. Mostly in the first line, the to the author to has ... I removed the second 'to'. I belive the sentence is now correct (?) It lacks an apostrophe to indicate possessive genitive, although I'm not sure how to phrase that properly with all the optional (parenthesized) cases... I was going to change it to the address(es) of the author(s). Frank beat me to fixing the actual bug, but I could still make that change. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dudes, the BTS is broken
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:54:44PM +1000, Craig Small wrote: Someone has been nice and closed all my bugs for me and every other developer. Eg http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Works for me ... Debian Bug report logs: maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that maintainers may use different Maintainer fields for different packages, so there may be other reports filed under different addresses. Serious policy violations - outstanding * #178541: mnogosearch-pgsql-dev: Has a file that conflicts with mnogosearch-pgsql: /usr/lib/libudmsearch.a Package: mnogosearch-pgsql-dev; Severity: serious; Reported by: Devin Bayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tags: woody; 184 days old. * #201624: lprng_3.8.21-1(mips/unstable): configure built with broken libtool.m4 Package: lprng; Severity: serious; Reported by: Ryan Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 13 days old. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dudes, the BTS is broken
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 02:04:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:03:23PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Craig Small wrote: Someone has been nice and closed all my bugs for me and every other developer. Eg http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Works for me ... For a moment there I could reproduce it. It's possible that the index file was getting rewritten or something? It's written to a .new file and atomically renamed, so that would be most odd ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Proper attribution of the Linux Trademark]
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:44:43PM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: Linux International has put in a request that we recognize the Linux trademark on our various pages. The original communication is attached. I understand that it is a pain to keep up with the trademarks. From a legal perspective, however, it would be good if we did. Does anyone have an opinion on how to handle this? We've already got Debian is a registered trademark of Software in the Public Interest, Inc. at the bottom of all our pages. I wouldn't have thought it was a big deal to add another entry there (apart from causing a big sync for all the mirrors)? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.debina.org opera
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:54:40AM -0800, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I realize Opera is (non)free software, but.. I'm using Opera 7.11, and some javascript on the main page cause Opera to crash/die/abort/quit running. There is no JavaScript on the front page of www.debian.org ... it's plain old HTML. I think you'd be better off reporting this to Opera instead. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: norwegian or german
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:09:40PM +0200, Klaus Pangritz wrote: why do I get the norwegian(?) page when I enter http://www.de.debian.org/distrib/packages; ?? Please see: http://www.de.debian.org/intro/cn.de.html Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new translator section in debian::weeklynews::footer
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 02:56:56PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:22:15PM +0200, Marek ??aska wrote: One thing interests me. You run it just as editor, it means: #use debian::weeklynews::footer translator=Mr. Foo the Foot[EMAIL PROTECTED] And it should produce bla...bla..bla... a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mr. Foo the Foot/a. but it makes bla...bla...bla...a href=mailto:foo.com;Mr.Foo the Foot/a. This is of course wrong. I don't know where it loses @. @foo means array named foo in Perl. You probably need to surround it with \Q and \E. Or just backslash the @? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by tbm: webwml/english/intro organization.data
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:54:20PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: I think I'm starting to get increasingly bored with all this blather about publicising the internal projects. What's the difference between an internal project and stuff we're doing, anyway? It's always sounded distressingly like marketing-speak to me. :-/ -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internal Server Error
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 07:32:15PM -0400, Streph Treadway wrote: Perhaps I am screwing up all of my search requests, but beginning today, every search I enter from: http://lists.debian.org/search.html generates an Internal Server Error. master.debian.org (== lists.debian.org) was upgraded to woody today. I imagine this is related. /org/lists.debian.org/logs/searchlists.log shows lots of this kind of thing: [Sun May 18 19:04:43 2003] searchlists: Undefined subroutine CGI::dump [Sun May 18 19:04:43 2003] searchlists: at /org/cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/searchlists line 36 According to the CGI.pm changelog at http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/CGI/#new, version 2.50 changed dump() to Dump() to avoid name clashes. searchlists could either just follow that or use the as_string() synonym instead, which is present in all of Perl 5.005, 5.6, and 5.8. I don't have access to change this, though, so I hope someone in the debwww group will step in. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#193106: bugs.debian.org: what defaults on /Bugs page?
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:58:24AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: On http://www.debian.org/Bugs/: * Include severity: critical grave serious important normal minor wishlist fixed * Exclude severity: critical grave serious important normal minor wishlist fixed Things that should be addressed by the wording on that page: What defaults? C Isn't it clear that the initial state of all the radio buttons and C checkboxes shows you the defaults? I thought it was (after all, it has C to be that way or the form submission will do something other than the C default). Well, of the two lines I quoted, none of the boxes are checked. However, the results produced act like all the Include severity boxes were checked. So why aren't they initially checked when the user encounters them? Because it would produce a most vomitously long URL. Not checking any of the include/exclude boxes is a useful edge case, and is treated the same way as checking all the include boxes. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192748: Debian WWW Pages License is incompatible with the GNU GPL
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:03:28PM +0900, Tatsuya Kinoshita wrote: On May 12, 2003 at 11:17PM +0200, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the benefit of being compatible with the GPL? Is it e.g. impossible to distribute copies of our web pages with GPL-licensed programs? I think that a work which derives from both an Open Publication Licensed work and a GNU GPLed work cannot be distributed. Aggregation, though, is usually not a problem. If you just happen to be distributing the two together then that's fine. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-bugs-reports
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 12:38:33AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: I just noticed, that there is a file in MailingLists/desc/bugs/ named debian-bugs-reports, but that list do not appear on (un)subscribe (because it's not in the lists.cfg) or lists.debian.org. Is this a bug or intentional? debian-bugs-reports used to be used for bug summaries, of the form the following problem reports have not yet been closed or forwarded, so please do something about them (see master:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts/mailsummary if you're curious). It's still listed in master:/etc/debbugs/config, but as far as I know these summaries have been disabled for quite some time. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#127355: Simple patch. Should I?
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 11:53:27PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: This is a patch for #127355: bugs.debian.org: provide a complete log page with all transactions visible Any objections? (If you will suggest an other label, just go ahead :) I had been thinking along the same lines. Looks sensible to me. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by bli: webwml/german/devel/wnpp index.wml
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:02:09PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Debian WWW CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-24 21:50]: Modified files: german/devel/wnpp: index.wml Log message: s/voraussichtlich/zuk?nftig/ I'm not sure if this change is correct. According to my dictionary prospective means 'voraussichtlich' (expected), prospective_ly_ means zuk?nftig (future). What is the intention of the word in english? prospectively sounds more enforcing that it will really be a package. I'm not sure if I like that change. My reading of the English word is something like applying to be. So prospective developer would be a valid way to describe someone in the NM queue. To me, prospective packages means packages which may become part of the distribution. Future does feel more accurate than expected. Prospective versus prospectively are just adjectival and adverbial forms of the same word. I don't think you could reduce one to expected and the other to future exclusively; both shades of meaning are there depending on context. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package search improvements
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:20:48AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 01:50:26AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: It's disk space against cpu usage. Clearly the first is much cheaper. Perhaps I should also mention the exact cause of those 500 errors that was briefly mentioned on -www recently -- the MaxClients 300 setting on gluck exceeds the maxproc 256 setting. Of course, this is a bug, and it will be fixed, but this still means that apache on the machine often runs two hundred processes as it is, so adding more CGIs/PHPs wouldn't exactly be the happiest solution. Sane performance tuning strategies dictate that more stuff should be in-process, then. Is mod_perl feasible? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#133127: Processed: including/excluding tags
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 10:12:47PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:05:45PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:33:06AM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ should gain a couple of rows of checkboxes # to allow including/excluding by tags. See #141968 for instructions. The problem with this is that bugreport.cgi seems not to handle more than one include (or exclude) right. It only uses the last occurence (This is an other behavior as for sev-inc and similar). You must specify them as include=patch,wontfix f.e. But this is not possible with HTML forms, neither with checkboxes nor lists (select with multiple). Or does anyone know a way? I see. I'll have a look at fixing that tonight. Fixed (somewhat belatedly, sorry). I've prepared and tested the following patch to webwml; does it look OK, and may I commit it? I've used a separate tag- namespace for the translated tag names because I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to have them colliding with statuses; on the other hand the pending and fixed statuses just mean that the respective tags are set, so I could be persuaded otherwise ... Index: pkgreport-opts.inc === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/pkgreport-opts.inc,v retrieving revision 1.31 diff -p -u -r1.31 pkgreport-opts.inc --- pkgreport-opts.inc 14 Apr 2003 14:00:57 - 1.31 +++ pkgreport-opts.inc 23 Apr 2003 15:29:36 - @@ -102,4 +102,86 @@ input type=checkbox name=sev-exc value=fixedfixed /small/li +define-tag tag-potato whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugspotato/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-woody whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugswoody/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-sarge whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssarge/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-sid whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssid/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-experimental whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsexperimental/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-d-i whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsd-i/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-fixed whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsfixed/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-help whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugshelp/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-moreinfo whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsmoreinfo/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-patch whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugspatch/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-pending whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugspending/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-security whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssecurity/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-unreproducible whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsunreproducible/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-upstream whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsupstream/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag tag-wontfix whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugswontfix/gettext +/define-tag + + lismallgettext domain=bugsInclude tag:/gettext + input type=checkbox name=include value=potatotag-potato + input type=checkbox name=include value=woodytag-woody + input type=checkbox name=include value=sargetag-sarge + input type=checkbox name=include value=sidtag-sid + input type=checkbox name=include value=experimentaltag-experimental + input type=checkbox name=include value=d-itag-d-i + input type=checkbox name=include value=fixedtag-fixed + input type=checkbox name=include value=helptag-help + input type=checkbox name=include value=moreinfotag-moreinfo + input type=checkbox name=include value=patchtag-patch + input type=checkbox name=include value=pendingtag-pending + input type=checkbox name=include value=securitytag-security + input type=checkbox name=include value=unreproducibletag-unreproducible + input type=checkbox name=include value=upstreamtag-upstream + input type=checkbox name=include value=wontfixtag-wontfix + /small/li + + lismallgettext domain=bugsExclude tag:/gettext + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=potatotag-potato + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=woodytag-woody + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=sargetag-sarge + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=sidtag-sid + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=experimentaltag-experimental + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=d-itag-d-i + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=fixedtag-fixed + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=helptag-help + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=moreinfotag-moreinfo + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=patchtag-patch + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=pendingtag-pending + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=securitytag-security + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=unreproducibletag-unreproducible + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=upstreamtag-upstream + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=wontfixtag-wontfix + /small
Bug#133127: Processed: including/excluding tags
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 06:36:39PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 04:35:10PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Fixed (somewhat belatedly, sorry). I've prepared and tested the following patch to webwml; does it look OK, and may I commit it? I've used a separate tag- namespace for the translated tag names because I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to have them colliding with statuses; on the other hand the pending and fixed statuses just mean that the respective tags are set, so I could be persuaded otherwise ... Aren't gettext tags merged anyway in the po file when they contain the same text? Well, if they were to contain the same English text but have different translations, that would be bad. I've convinced myself that the status and the tag are the same thing, though, so: Index: pkgreport-opts.inc === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/pkgreport-opts.inc,v retrieving revision 1.31 diff -p -u -r1.31 pkgreport-opts.inc --- pkgreport-opts.inc 14 Apr 2003 14:00:57 - 1.31 +++ pkgreport-opts.inc 23 Apr 2003 18:26:57 - @@ -102,4 +102,83 @@ input type=checkbox name=sev-exc value=fixedfixed /small/li +# distributions in the usual order, then other tags alphabetically +define-tag potato whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugspotato/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag woody whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugswoody/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag sarge whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssarge/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag sid whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssid/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag experimental whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsexperimental/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag d-i whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsd-i/gettext +/define-tag +# 'fixed' is defined above +define-tag help whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugshelp/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag moreinfo whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsmoreinfo/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag patch whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugspatch/gettext +/define-tag +# 'pending' is defined above +define-tag security whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugssecurity/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag unreproducible whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsunreproducible/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag upstream whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugsupstream/gettext +/define-tag +define-tag wontfix whitespace=delete + gettext domain=bugswontfix/gettext +/define-tag + + lismallgettext domain=bugsInclude tag:/gettext + input type=checkbox name=include value=potatopotato + input type=checkbox name=include value=woodywoody + input type=checkbox name=include value=sargesarge + input type=checkbox name=include value=sidsid + input type=checkbox name=include value=experimentalexperimental + input type=checkbox name=include value=d-id-i + input type=checkbox name=include value=fixedfixed + input type=checkbox name=include value=helphelp + input type=checkbox name=include value=moreinfomoreinfo + input type=checkbox name=include value=patchpatch + input type=checkbox name=include value=pendingpending + input type=checkbox name=include value=securitysecurity + input type=checkbox name=include value=unreproducibleunreproducible + input type=checkbox name=include value=upstreamupstream + input type=checkbox name=include value=wontfixwontfix + /small/li + + lismallgettext domain=bugsExclude tag:/gettext + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=potatopotato + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=woodywoody + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=sargesarge + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=sidsid + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=experimentalexperimental + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=d-id-i + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=fixedfixed + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=helphelp + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=moreinfomoreinfo + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=patchpatch + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=pendingpending + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=securitysecurity + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=unreproducibleunreproducible + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=upstreamupstream + input type=checkbox name=exclude value=wontfixwontfix + /small/li + /ul -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#181872: Patch
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 10:18:27PM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote: Denis Barbier said: Nope, ampersnads must be escaped, period. Example: Description: escape HTML special characters in plain text EscapeHTML converts all , and characters into amp;, lt; and gt;. There is no case where they must not be escaped. That's right, and the solution I proposed (to 'normalise' the entities, is that the right word?) will do that. To clarify what I outlined in #186740, if you were to start with this sort of string: foo blah amp; url you would end up with this in the HTML: amp;foo blah amp; lt;urlgt; which would be rendered in the browser (ie entities decoded) like this: foo blah url That seems mad to me. If I write amp; in a package description, I want amp; in the output. You seem to be saying that Denis' example above should be displayed in a browser as: EscapeHTML converts all , and characters into , and . HTML-encoding some characters but not others would break this entirely legitimate description. This is clearly wrong. Descriptions aren't HTML and should never be interpreted (partially or otherwise) as if they were. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#188524: www.debian.org: Reporting page should mention debbugs-el
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:17:54PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:12:45PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting says: There is a program that we have developed in Debian to help reporting bug reports, it's called reportbug. It will guide you through the bug reporting process step by step, and probably ease filing bugs that way. If you don't want to play favorites, please mention the debian-bug command in Emacs available via the debbugs-el package. :-) How about this paragraph: Emacs user can also use the debian-bug command provided by the debbugs-el package. Just call it with M-x debian-bug and it will ask for all necessary information similar to reportbug. Minor proofreading: Emacs users can also use the debian-bug command provided by the debbugs-el package. When called with M-x debian-bug, it will ask for all necessary information in a similar way to reportbug. (user = users, and just foo and bar always sounds wrong in written English to me.) If noone objects, I will add it. Sounds good, with the above. I'll add it to debbugs too. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#188524: marked as done (www.debian.org: Reporting page should mention debbugs-el)
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 10:18:34AM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Your message dated Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:16:07 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#188524: www.debian.org: Reporting page should mention debbugs-el has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. [...] From: Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] O.k. changed mine. Patch finally applied: Index: Reporting.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/Reporting.wml,v retrieving revision 1.35 diff -u -r1.35 Reporting.wml --- Reporting.wml 27 Mar 2003 11:59:06 - 1.35 +++ Reporting.wml 13 Apr 2003 15:07:31 - @@ -33,7 +33,13 @@ bug reports, it's called codea href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/reportbug.html;reportbug/a/code. It will guide you through the bug reporting process step by step, -and probably ease filing bugs that way. +and probably ease filing bugs that way./p + +pEmacs users can also use the debian-bug command provided by the +codea href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/debbugs-el.html;\ +debbugs-el/a/code package. When called with kbdM-x +debian-bug/kbd, it will ask for all necessary information in a +similar way to codereportbug/code./p h2Sending the bug report via e-mail/h2 Applied to debbugs as well. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Processed: including/excluding tags
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:05:45PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:33:06AM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ should gain a couple of rows of checkboxes # to allow including/excluding by tags. See #141968 for instructions. The problem with this is that bugreport.cgi seems not to handle more than one include (or exclude) right. It only uses the last occurence (This is an other behavior as for sev-inc and similar). You must specify them as include=patch,wontfix f.e. But this is not possible with HTML forms, neither with checkboxes nor lists (select with multiple). Or does anyone know a way? I see. I'll have a look at fixing that tonight. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#170743: Wrong description of index packages in the mailserver refcard and in the help text
reassign 170743 www.debian.org thanks On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:13:02AM +0100, Guentcho Skordev wrote: Package: bugs.debian.org Hello, In the Mail servers' reference card stays: | * index packages package-substring In the Introduction to the bug system request server (answer to help) one can read: | index packages package | Requests the index pages of bugs in the system for the package | package. The search term is an exact match. The bug index for | each matching package will be sent in a separate message. (The older version I have is: index packages package Requests the index pages of bugs in the system for all packages containing the string package. The search term is a case insensitive substring. The bug index for each matching package will be sent in a separate message. ) The reference card text is wrong, and I think that the last sentence in the newer version of the Introduction isnt't needed. Fixed in debbugs CVS, also for 'index maint'. Can somebody on debian-www merge the relevant parts of this patch into the webwml repository, please? - PatchSet 388 Date: 2003/03/05 13:53:04 Author: cjwatson Log: 'index maint' and 'index packages' don't do substring matches any more. Members: html/server-refcard.html.in:1.3-1.4 html/server-request.html.in:1.3-1.4 Index: html/server-refcard.html.in === RCS file: /cvs/debbugs/source/html/server-refcard.html.in,v retrieving revision 1.3 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -p -u -u -r1.3 -r1.4 --- html/server-refcard.html.in 26 Nov 2002 04:21:06 - 1.3 +++ html/server-refcard.html.in 5 Mar 2003 13:53:04 - 1.4 @@ -24,9 +24,9 @@ sending the word codehelp/code to ea licodeindex-summary by-package/code licodeindex-summary by-number/code licodeindex-maint/code - licodeindex maint/code varmaintainer-substring/var + licodeindex maint/code varmaintainer/var licodeindex-packages/code - licodeindex packages/code varpackage-substring/var + licodeindex packages/code varpackage/var licodesend-unmatched/code [codethis/code|code0/code] licodesend-unmatched/code codelast/code|code-1/code licodesend-unmatched/code codeold/code|code-2/code Index: html/server-request.html.in === RCS file: /cvs/debbugs/source/html/server-request.html.in,v retrieving revision 1.3 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -p -u -u -r1.3 -r1.4 --- html/server-request.html.in 17 Dec 2000 23:07:00 - 1.3 +++ html/server-request.html.in 5 Mar 2003 13:53:04 - 1.4 @@ -58,10 +58,9 @@ server. dtcodeindex maint/code varmaintainer/var - ddRequests the index pages of $gBugs in the system for all maintainers - containing the string varmaintainer/var. The search term is a - case insensitive substring. The $gBug index for each matching - maintainer will be sent in a separate message. + ddRequests the index pages of $gBugs in the system for the maintainer + varmaintainer/var. The search term is an exact match. + The $gBug index will be sent in a separate message. dtcodeindex-packages/code @@ -70,10 +69,9 @@ server. dtcodeindex packages/code varpackage/var - ddRequests the index pages of $gBugs in the system for all packages - containing the string varpackage/var. The search term is a case - insensitive substring. The $gBug index for each matching package will - be sent in a separate message. + ddRequests the index pages of $gBugs in the system for the package + varpackage/var. The search term is an exact match. + The $gBug index will be sent in a separate message. dtcodesend-unmatched/code [codethis/code|code0/code] dtcodesend-unmatched/code codelast/code|code-1/code Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tags: header should be documented under instructions for reporting bugs
reassign 89460 www.debian.org thanks On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:00:22PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: Package: bugs.debian.org Version: N/A; reported 2001-03-12 Severity: normal The information for developers on manipulating bugs page mentions the Tags: header and refers to the instsructions for reporting bugs page, but the word tag is nowhere to be found in the latter. This should be rectified. Fixed in debbugs CVS. Here's the patch for somebody to review and merge into webwml (with the obvious s/\$gBug/bug/g change, and probably closing /p tags as well - that file in the debbugs repository doesn't have those elsewhere yet, so I haven't added them here). - PatchSet 389 Date: 2003/03/05 14:15:57 Author: cjwatson Log: Document the Tags: header in Reporting. Members: html/Reporting.html.in:1.6-1.7 Index: html/Reporting.html.in === RCS file: /cvs/debbugs/source/html/Reporting.html.in,v retrieving revision 1.6 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -p -u -u -r1.6 -r1.7 --- html/Reporting.html.in 9 Oct 2002 07:54:07 - 1.6 +++ html/Reporting.html.in 5 Mar 2003 14:15:57 - 1.7 @@ -130,6 +130,20 @@ severity levels available are described a href=Developer.html#severitiesdevelopers' documentation/a. +h2a name=tagsAssigning tags/a/h2 + +pYou can set tags on a $gBug as you are reporting it. For example, if +you are including a patch with your $gBug report, you may wish to set +the codepatch/code tag. This is not required, and the developers +will set tags on your report as and when it is appropriate. + +pTo set tags, put a codeTags: vartags/var/code line in the +a name=#pseudoheaderpseudo-header/a together with the usual +codePackage/code and codeVersion/code. The tags available are +described in the +a href=Developer.html#tagsdevelopers' documentation/a. + + h2Not forwarding to the mailing list - minor $gBug reports/h2 pIf a $gBug report is minor (for example, a documentation typo or other Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the Jargon Lexicon???
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:45:57PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:28:55PM -0800, Hirschi, Philip wrote: What have you done to http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/The-Jargon-Lexicon-framed.html??? It has moved to catb.org. Also, the fact that the URL above sometimes gets redirected to http://www.debian.org/ (among others) is up to the administrator of www.tuxedo.org, not us. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing bug submitters
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 01:24:02PM +0100, Laurent Bonnaud wrote: Could you please also add this info to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control ? I can't do this myself. I added it to the version of that file in debbugs CVS some time ago, and asked Joy if he'd sync it into webwml. Could somebody in the web team do this? The debbugs-style diffs for the 'submitter' command are here: http://cvs.debian.org/source/html/server-control.html.in.diff?r1=1.4r2=1.5cvsroot=debbugs http://cvs.debian.org/source/html/server-refcard.html.in.diff?r1=1.2r2=1.3cvsroot=debbugs Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian website security issue
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:51:18AM -0800, Max wrote: Guys, your cgi scripts allow directory traversing and file disclosure. See for yourself: wget -O - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=../../../../../../etc/hosts%00; Thanks for the notice; this is now fixed. Regards, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165611: www.debian.org: update syntax of control@bugs 'tags' command
Package: www.debian.org Severity: minor /webwml/english/Bugs/server-control.wml can have the change in revision 1.13 reverted now, since I recently changed the BTS to accept the command without the space. Index: server-control.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/Bugs/server-control.wml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -p -u -r1.25 server-control.wml --- server-control.wml 24 Jul 2002 05:13:42 - 1.25 +++ server-control.wml 20 Oct 2002 17:39:37 - @@ -179,8 +179,7 @@ several codeunmerge/code commands in vartag/var. No notification is sent to the user who reported the bug. code+/code means adding, code-/code means subtracting, and code=/code means ignoring the current tags and setting them afresh. - The default action is adding. A space is required between the +/-/= - character and the tag name. + The default action is adding. pAvailable tags currently include codepatch/code, codewontfix/code, codemoreinfo/code, codeunreproducible/code, codehelp/code, (Would it be possible for me to get webwml access for stuff in /Bugs/? I have a bunch of updates to debbugs CVS queued up in my home directory to sync it with webwml, and I'm sure some things need to be synced in the other direction as well.) Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165611: www.debian.org: update syntax of control@bugs 'tags' command
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:56:23AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 06:47:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: /webwml/english/Bugs/server-control.wml can have the change in revision 1.13 reverted now, since I recently changed the BTS to accept the command without the space. Committed, thanks. Cheers. (Would it be possible for me to get webwml access for stuff in /Bugs/? I have a bunch of updates to debbugs CVS queued up in my home directory to sync it with webwml, and I'm sure some things need to be synced in the other direction as well.) Gladly, but all the ownership/permission giving methods I know of are too crude for this kind of setup -- either we give you access to the whole webwml tree, which is bad in principle, or we cut off access to english/webwml/Bugs/ to non-debbugs people, which is also bad in principle. Any idea of something more flexible? Perhaps CVS has something along the lines of a pre-commit script (commitinfo?) in CVSROOT which can do flexible authentication checking? I know that's how it would work in Subversion. I don't know enough about CVS to say, though. Looking through the info documentation, it isn't obvious how to get the username in a way that works with both pserver and ext, but I might be misreading. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xlibs depend
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 02:05:54PM +0200, brice wrote: in http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/xlibs.html you say that it depend on xlibs is there something that i not get ? xlibs depend on xlibs ? It's a minor glitch in the package's build process and/or the dpkg scripts it calls. It doesn't actually do any harm. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#137839: www.debian.org: i386 port could mention some supported processors
Package: www.debian.org Severity: wishlist On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:31:20PM +0900, Bozin LCpl George S wrote: Ive taken a look at your ports page and have failed to see support for AMD processeors. I would just like to know what port I would need which is listed for my AMD XP 1700+ processor, if any. Thank you. Perhaps it would be worth mentioning (in /ports/index.html) a few processors supported by the i386 port. You could adapt the text from the kernel's Configure.help: Intel or compatible 80x86 processor CONFIG_X86 This is Linux's home port. Linux was originally native to the Intel 386, and runs on all the later x86 processors including the Intel 486, 586, Pentiums, and various instruction-set-compatible chips by AMD, Cyrix, and others. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#137839: www.debian.org: i386 port could mention some supported processors
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:34:13PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:58:16AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: Perhaps it would be worth mentioning (in /ports/index.html) a few processors supported by the i386 port. You could adapt the text from the kernel's Configure.help: Intel or compatible 80x86 processor CONFIG_X86 This is Linux's home port. Linux was originally native to the Intel 386, and runs on all the later x86 processors including the Intel 486, 586, Pentiums, and various instruction-set-compatible chips by AMD, Cyrix, and others. I vaguely recall problems getting the potato kernel to boot on newer Athlons and P4s. Any idea if that's been fixed? Haven't a clue, sorry ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#137839: www.debian.org: i386 port could mention some supported processors
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:03:19PM -0500, Otis Ward wrote: Mr. Watson, I've received your message, I'm sure in error. Could you please recheck your destination address and try again in case your message never arrived there. Thanks and take care. I've contacted Otis Ward privately about this, no need for anybody else to do so ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qa.debian.org website status
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:29:46AM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: Why aren't these pages in the debian-wml CVS with the rest of the Debian WWW site? It is due to the PHP generated charts? http://qa.debian.org/debcheck.php They've always been in the qa.debian.org CVS (/cvs/qa, module wml). Historical reasons I guess. Also http://base.debian.net/ and http://standard.debian.net are linked from qa.debian.org. I guess I noticed this but it never really registered before. Yep, they seemed like useful links to have. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cometh?
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:23:07PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: I am now translating webwml/english/releases/woody/index.wml into Japanese. However, I don't understand the word cometh which is used as h2Woody Cometh/h2 as a title. I consulted some dictionaries but I could not find... Could someone please tell me the meaning of the word? It's an archaic form of comes, used for dramatic effect. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#103749: www.debian.org: link from autobuilder page to buildd stats?
Package: www.debian.org Severity: wishlist Hi, I've just noticed the new autobuilder page linked off Developers' Corner: thanks! It would be good if it could also link to http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph.png, which shows how up-to-date the various architectures are. I found out about that from somebody at the Debian Conference, and I'd like it to be easily findable. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#102105: www.debian.org: List of FTP maintainers at /distrib/ is out of date
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Hi, The list of FTP maintainers at /distrib/ should be updated to include Ryan Murray. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#100148: Over dependency on main www.debian.org server
reassign 100148 www.debian.org thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: debian-www Version: Current I was attempting to use the www.debian.org, bugs.debian.org and lists.debian.org servers today. I don't know if we're under attack, or if it's genuine traffic loads due to the Linux conference; but I get connections only sporadically. [...] Next I went to the mirrored bug page, only to find the search buttons and links pointed me back to 216.234.231.5, that same busy server. master.debian.org was down due to a hardware failure, and then changed IP address. I'm not surprised you were having trouble contacting it ... that IP is the old address which is no longer master's, so perhaps bits of your DNS haven't updated yet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ host master.debian.org master.debian.org A 216.234.231.130 I think we need to rethink our mirroring strategy to accommodate some of these issues, so we're not so vulnerable to single-server failures or attacks. bugs.d.o and lists.d.o are rather strenuous to mirror, I suspect. btw, the australian server kept trying to serve me some pages in Chinese. Even the front pages were Chinese in South Africa and the Netherlands. The server in Turkey has apparently got it right. (I did check my browser settings and it is set to display English). Oh well, reassigning over to the webmaster team. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AM Final Report for Beiad Dalton
Guillaume Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dans un message du 25 Mar à 0:02, Adrian Bunk écrivait : He sent altogether mails to debian-policy in the last three months. i can't see: - Which skills valuable for Debian did he show? - What does he need an account for? He showed that 1) He is interested in policy issues, 2) he plans to help us. It is an important issue. While people do need to be developers in order to propose and second policy bugs, I don't think we ought to be bringing people into the project simply to work on policy: our policy people should have experience of their subject matter, otherwise it's just so much unimplementable hot air (note that Manoj, Julian, Santiago, Anthony, et al are experienced packagers). To that end, Beiad's packaging skills seem more relevant. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]