suggestion for package search page wording (was: Re: Package search function bug)

2015-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
Hi,

In message 20150708110650.ga30...@mraw.org to debian-project
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org replied thus::

 Hi,

 Vlatko Ć urlan vlatko.sur...@prijevodi-online.net (2015-07-08):
 Dear all,
 the package search function 
 atnbsp;https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents
 gives nothing for when 'convert' alone but when searcinh '/usr/bin/convert' 
 there are results.
 Sounds like some sort of a bug to me.

 did you notice this at the top?

 You have searched for paths that end with convert in suite jessie, all
 sections, and all architectures. Found 102 results. 
 
 [icon] Note: Your search was too wide so we will only display only the
 first about 100 matches. Please consider using a longer keyword or
 more keywords.

I note that that last sentence is a bit mangled, with only display
only etc.

Perhaps it should read:

  Note: Your search gave too many results, so only the first 100 (or so)
  are displayed here. Please consider using a longer keyword or more
  keywords.

Cheers, Phil.

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Re: Jigdo search still broken.

2010-10-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:33:45 +0200, Richard Atterer atte...@debian.org wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:29:42PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 03:47:56PM +0200, thorres wrote:
  Hi there,
  
  the search for packages inside the jigdo files still does not work an
  and leads to a 404 error.
  (http://atterer.org/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=foo)
  
  ACK. We should move that content onto a proper Debian service.
  Richard, can you help with that?
 
 Hi - sorry that the search went offline, it happened when I moved servers 
 and I never fixed it. But this should have been on a Debian server in the 
 first place...
 
 The setup consists of a cron job to mirror .jigdo files (which could be 
 omitted if we set this up on cdimage) and a PHP file. Is PHP OK for Debian 
 machines? IIRC perl was preferred...

Hi Richard,

You could run it on free.hands.com (where you already have an account),
which for the moment has PHP on it.  I now have that on a VM and would
at some point want to shift the PHP stuff onto a separate VM, so if we
do that it would be wise to come up with a URL that would survive being
shifted onto a new machine at some point.  That could of course be done
by having nginx on free proxy through to the new machine.

If it's more practical to do it elsewhere, that's great, but thought I'd
mention this option as it seems likely to be the least effort.

Cheers, Phil.

P.S. Alternatively, it looks like you've not logged in since 2003, so if
you don't need the account any more, I could remove it.
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Re: log files on www.d.o [Re: Improvements of the website]

2007-04-27 Thread Philip Hands
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Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:33:01PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
 True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our [web] logs
 and gives us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
 I have now :)
 
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:04:19PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
 [request for more analysis]
 If Joey (or someone else) could provide me with more logs, then sure :)
 
 debian-admin, can you please modify /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 on klecker
 to change
 
   create 640 root adm
 
 into:
 
   create 640 root debwww
 
 Also then run:
 
 chgrp debwww /var/log/apache2/*.log
 apt-get install awstats

Done (including installing visitors, and making all the old .gz log files
belong to group debwww as well)

Cheers, Phil.
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Links to http://www.debian.org/intro/cn should be language specific

2007-01-09 Thread Philip Hands
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Hi,

[I'm not subscribed here, so please Cc: me in on replies]

The links at the bottom of all our pages that link to
http://www.debian.org/intro/cn send the user back to whatever language
their browser is set to.

If they got to the page they are on by selecting one of the language
specific links just above that, that's almost definitely not what they
want (since by clicking on the link they are effectively voting against
their current browser setting)

If instead those links pointed to the page using the language specific
URL (i.e. http://www.debian.org/intro/cn.en.html) that matches whatever
language the current page is in, then if that's the wrong language, they
get to select their own just above, and if it's already right they get
what they want anyway.

Hope that makes sense.

Just to make sure, I'm saying that:

  http://www.debian.org/index.de.html

should have this somewhere near the end:

  ie stellt man a href=./intro/cn.de.htmldie Standardsprache/a ein

whereas this:

  http://www.debian.org/index.en.html

should instead have this:

  How to set a href=./intro/cn.en.htmlthe default document language/a

and that should apply to all pages that have that link, with all of them
pointing at their own languages, for each supported language.

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Bug#406228: Links to http://www.debian.org/intro/cn should be language specific

2007-01-09 Thread Philip Hands
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Having just IRCed about this with Frans Pop, I thought I'd clarify a few of
points:

I was _not_ trying to re-raise the old idea whereby following a single
language specific link results in your experience of the whole Debian site
flipping languages. (I'm aware that is too painful to contemplate)

All I was pointing out is that for this specific page, it's a bit poor for
us to inflict the wrong language on someone if they've first managed to
notice that we have translations, and then managed to find the link in
their own language to the page about how to fix their browser.

Frans pointed out that the problem with the idea I suggested is that we
might have pages that have been translated into languages for which there
is no translation of the cn page, which would then result in hanging links.

Perhaps for this one page we could encourage translators to have something
available before all others?  Even if it's only a this page has not been
translated yet page -- at least that way the user would see a page with
all the links to the other translations, so they might find one in another
language that they can use to let them fix their browser setup.  Obviously
that doesn't help for the situation where someone has done a load of
translation, and then wandered off, leaving us with no translator for that
language.

Another alternative (which is probably not implementable, but then I don't
know how these pages are generated) would be to somehow redirect attempts
to access missing translations back to the .../cn page, so that at least
they get a page in their default language, as they do now (although that
would then of course do nothing to address the subject of this bug report)

An alternative to the language specific links idea (and probably easier to
implement) would be to duplicate the this page is available in other
languages section at the top of the page (or perhaps have a sidebar down
the left hand side?) so that our victim at least gets a to see a familiar
word to click on straight away, rather than having to pass the test of
scrolling down what is quite a long page before finding the link they were
really looking for.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: www.it.debian.org shutdown

2006-09-25 Thread Philip Hands
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Marco d'Itri wrote:
 Please remove www.it.debian.org from the DNS and from the dropbox on the
 pages, it will be shut down in a few days.
 

Removed from DNS.

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Re: Can't write to /tmp on cvs.debian.org

2006-09-20 Thread Philip Hands
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Martin Schulze wrote:
 Matt Taggart wrote:
 
Peter Karlsson writes...


I'm getting error messages from the cvs server on cvs.debian.org saying that 
it cannot write to the /tmp directory. It seems there are too many files on 
the file system, there are no inodes left in /tmp

I checked haydn and /tmp has plenty of inodes(and space) free. Maybe someone 
cleaned it up since you sent that mail?
 
 
 But cvs.debian.org is gluck...  It's looking fine as well.

Looking at the munin graphs, gluck's /tmp ran out of inodes about 18 hours
ago.  It's currently at 80% of maximum inodes, and is on the rise again.

Something's been eating inodes since Sunday by the looks of it.

Of the files on /tmp, the largest proportion are owned by
pmachard (about 220,000 files/directories, all in /tmp/cvs-serv* by the
looks of it), and he also seems to be running 12 cvs servers at present,
which seems very likely related.

=-=-=-=-=-
Pierre,

Perhaps you're aware of what it is that you're doing to use all those
files in /tmp on gluck (a.k.a. cvs.debian.org)?  If so, please stop it, or
do it another way that doesn't break things.

It looks to me as though you're firing up loads of cvs instances, and
then killing them in a way that prevents them from clearing up after
themselves, but that's only after a cursory examination -- you should have
a better idea of the details of what's occurring.

 Looking at the graphs, you'll have consumed all the inodes again in
about 5 hours.  If you've not done something about it before then, I'll
almost certainly be forced to kill all your cvs processes, and discard all
the directories belonging to you in /tmp on gluck.
=-=-=-=-=-

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Can't write to /tmp on cvs.debian.org

2006-09-20 Thread Philip Hands
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Philip Hands wrote:
[...]
 Pierre,
 
 Perhaps you're aware of what it is that you're doing to use all those
 files in /tmp on gluck (a.k.a. cvs.debian.org)?  If so, please stop it, or
 do it another way that doesn't break things.
 
 It looks to me as though you're firing up loads of cvs instances, and
 then killing them in a way that prevents them from clearing up after
 themselves, but that's only after a cursory examination -- you should have
 a better idea of the details of what's occurring.
 
  Looking at the graphs, you'll have consumed all the inodes again in
 about 5 hours.  If you've not done something about it before then, I'll
 almost certainly be forced to kill all your cvs processes, and discard all
 the directories belonging to you in /tmp on gluck.

OK, so it accelerated madly and ate all the inodes again as soon as I wrote
that, so I've now killed the older half of your cvs server processes, and
removed all the /tmp/cvs-serv* no longer associated with an active process.
 That should still leave you with enough debris to work out what's wrong
with whatever you're doing.  Oh, I've left /tmp/cvs-serv31300 as well, in
case you need an example of one of the abandoned directories to understand
what's happened.

That should hold it for a few a day or so (we're back to 44% inodes used)

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: http://www.debian.org/mirror/official_sponsors: UK -- new info

2005-07-06 Thread Philip Hands
Philip Hands wrote, on 2005-05-27:
 Hi,
 
 The bandwidth for the UK Mirror is now sponsored by:
 
   A HREF=http://www.rapidswitch.com;RapidSwitch Ltd/A
 
 please update the sponsors page to match.

Is there any reason why this update has not yet happened -- it seems a bit
churlish of us to not be thanking them for the bandwidth.  Especially when
we're instead thanking people who if they ever donated any bandwidth for
that mirror did so several years ago.

Cheers, Phil.


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Re: http://www.debian.org/mirror/official_sponsors: UK -- new info

2005-07-06 Thread Philip Hands
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
...
 Hmm, you never answered to my response mail, so I forgot about it...

Seems fair.

Odd that my reply went astray though -- hopefully it will get to you this
time. (It's attached)

Cheers, Phil.
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Frank Lichtenheld wrote:

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:27:43AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:


Hi,

The bandwidth for the UK Mirror is now sponsored by:

 A HREF=http://www.rapidswitch.com;RapidSwitch Ltd/A

please update the sponsors page to match.



Do you also know should be noted as maintainer?


That would be me.


Currently it says Maintainer: Theo Zourzouvillys [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well)


Well, I'm on that list too, but mail direct to me is much more likely to
get read in a timely manner.

Cheers, Phil.


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Re: http://www.debian.org/mirror/official_sponsors: UK -- new info

2005-07-06 Thread Philip Hands
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:27:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
...

Hmm, you never answered to my response mail, so I forgot about it...

Seems fair.

Odd that my reply went astray though -- hopefully it will get to you this
time. (It's attached)
 
 
 I have also deleted the rsync entries since you don't seem to offer
 that. Is that correct?

oh balls, xinetd had died  :-(

Back up now -- as it happens I'm pretty certain mine was the first mirror
to offer rsyncd, so ironic that it was down when you looked :-)

Cheers, Phil.


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events/2003/1008-linuxexpo.ja.ics

2004-05-19 Thread Philip Hands

This file is currently not readable by the rsync for mirroring, which is
a _good_ thing, given the fact that this file is apparently 4.5GB in size:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/org/www.debian.org/www/events/2003$ ls -l 
1008-linuxexpo.*.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww982 Nov  2  2003 1008-linuxexpo.da.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww   1043 Mar 23 08:04 1008-linuxexpo.de.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww971 Nov  2  2003 1008-linuxexpo.en.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww   1010 Nov  2  2003 1008-linuxexpo.fr.ics
-rw---1 debwww   debwww   4527812608 May 19 04:08 1008-linuxexpo.ja.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww   1046 Feb 28 03:47 1008-linuxexpo.ru.ics
-rw-r--r--1 debwww   debwww986 Apr 16 09:13 1008-linuxexpo.sv.ics

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Re: www.debian.de mirror out of order?

2002-08-14 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 14:02, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:25:21PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote:
  Just noticed, that www.debian.de doesn't seem to be a regular mirror
  any more,...
 
 We're aware of the problem, it'll be fixed ASAP.

It should be fixed now.

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Re: http://www.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/

2002-02-04 Thread Philip Hands
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 10:37:23PM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote:
  the content at that URL should go away.
  Why is it there at all? AFAIK, those pages were never available on
  www.d.o.
 
 That's Phil's.

OK, it's gone.  Sorry about that, it was an old Alias still laying
around that has been there since before cdimage.debian.org was set up.

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Re: update request: http://www.uk.debian.org/donations

2001-11-01 Thread Philip Hands
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:16:27PM +, Philip Hands wrote:
  I just noticed that the line refering to www.uk.d.o/cdimage.d.o on
  http://www.debian.org/donations is well out of date, in that it refers
  to Netcom UK who stopped hosting the machine several years ago.
  
  Please change the Netcom UK link to be:
  
a hrefhttp://www.uk.xo.com/;XO Communications/a
 
 I've commited the change, thanks for the note.

Thanks Josip.

One more thing that I just noticed about that line --- in addition to
http.uk.d.o, and ftp.uk.d.o it should also probably mention:

  a href=http://cdimage.debian.org/;cdimage.debian.org/a

given that that's the real bandwidth hog much of the time.

Why I didn't notice that at the same time, I don't know --- sorry.

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update request: http://www.uk.debian.org/donations

2001-10-31 Thread Philip Hands
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Hi,

I just noticed that the line refering to www.uk.d.o/cdimage.d.o on
http://www.debian.org/donations is well out of date, in that it refers
to Netcom UK who stopped hosting the machine several years ago.

Please change the Netcom UK link to be:

  a hrefhttp://www.uk.xo.com/;XO Communications/a

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http://www.debian.org/events/1999/1005-linuxexpo-uk update

1999-09-30 Thread Philip Hands
Hi,

Could someone please update this page as follows:

  Firstly, the dates are wrong, they should be 6th  7th October 1999

  Matthew Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] is coordinating.

  We have a been given a free stand (No. 127)

  a 
href=http://www.itevents.co.uk/registration/linux99.asp;Preregistration/a 
for free tickets closes on Friday 1st October.

  Its all being discussed on the Debian UK Mailing-list
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  There should be several Debian Developers on the stand, on both
  days.  I'll be there anyway, as will Steve McIntyre and Matthew
  Vernon AFAIK.

This is reasonably urgent, since not only is the event less than a
week away, but the Expo organisers (who gave us the stand for free)
have noticed that a) we have the dates wrong, and b) we're claiming
not to be turning up --- not good IMO.

Cheers, Phil.


Re: Help fix broken links on the web site

1999-08-04 Thread Philip Hands
James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

All the sunsite.org.uk and sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk errors are temporary
errors, due to their machine being in mid-upgrade.

URLs should probably use the the ``sunsite.org.uk'' name these days
though, so *.ic.ac.uk URLs should be changed.

 Looking into http://localhost/2.0/HOWTO.upgrade 
   http://www.debian.org/2.0/autoup/ : error 404 Not Found
   http://www.uk.debian.org/autoup/ : error 404 Not Found

Only the Italian translation of HOWTO.upgrade seems to be around, and
that should probably be dumped.  autoup is history.

Cheers, Phil.


Re: Help fix broken links on the web site

1999-08-04 Thread Philip Hands
 On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 09:10:02AM +0100, Phil Hands wrote:
  James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  All the sunsite.org.uk and sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk errors are temporary
  errors, due to their machine being in mid-upgrade.
  
 The script doesn't know this and I didn't take the time to remove them.
 I heard that it was back up. I can ping it fine.

The ftp server is up, but not much else yet.

Cheers, Phil.



Re: Debian Point of Contact

1999-06-19 Thread Philip Hands
Trae McCombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyways, I wanted to know, if I, and Garrett, could represent the
 Debian Community on that page.  I made a choice for us to use 
 Debian exclusivly because of its core beliefs.  If you guys would like
 to pick another person, simply let me know and we can go from there.

Well volunteered :-)

BTW Make sure to submit whatever you write for proof reading
(i.e. mention it on debian-publicity) before actually publishing it.

Cheers, Phil.


Re: Is NPL DFSG complient or not?

1998-08-13 Thread Philip Hands
 Philip Hands wrote:
  Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This means that if we distribute modified versions of an NPL'd
   program, we're going to have to keep source packages around long after
   we have replaced the binaries with new versions.  We have no mechanism
   in place for this.
  
  Take a look at the GPL --- it says three years:
  
  b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
  years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
  cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
  machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
  distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
  customarily used for software interchange; or,
 
 Yeah, but that's only option b).  You also have option a), which is to
 distribute binary and source together, like we do.  Then you can drop
 the source as soon as you drop the binary.  The NPL has no such option.

Yes it does.

The 12 month restriction is part of a sub clause, which only applies if you
chose not to supply the source on the same media as the binaries.

Cheers, Phil.


Re: rsync

1998-05-05 Thread Philip Hands
 
 Hi,
 
 If anyone is using rsync off va or master please upgrade to the 1.7.4
 version. I have prepared a .deb of it based on Phillips work and it is
 available at
 
 http://www.debian.org/~jgg/rsync_1.7.4-0.1_i386.deb

Oops,  looks like I forgot to upload 1.7.4-1 after building it :-(

Thanks for the reminder, it's on it's way as I type.

Cheers, Phil.


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Re: Web Pages

1998-04-22 Thread Philip Hands
 
 Is there any way to verify the web pages? Perhaps compare their md5 sum's
 with the mirror on va?
 
 Master's hard disk was giving read errors which linux ignored and thus
 probably silently messed up lots of stuff. at least 4 files in the ftp
 archive have been hosed.
 
 Anything on /debian2 is possibly bad - though the errrors did seem
 localized to only a section of the disk
 
 Jason

rsync with a -n (or --dry-run) option will tell you which files it would
copy, delete etc. without actually touching anything.

Here's a command line that would do the trick for my machine:

  rsync --dry-run -rlpt --delete --exclude sponsor.html -e ssh \
   va.debian.org:/usr/debian/web/debian.org/ /var/www/virtual/debian.org/

you can play with the l,p, and t options depending what you want to check.

you might also want to use --checksum to force it to checksum every file

You probably want to upgrade to the latest rsync 1.7.*  at both ends before
doing this, because there was a bug a few versions back that meant it did 
things despite the -n option (delete symlinks IIRC). 

Cheers, Phil.



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Re: Web Pages

1998-04-22 Thread Philip Hands
  rsync with a -n (or --dry-run) option will tell you which files it would
  copy, delete etc. without actually touching anything.
  
 This was done last night and found one other bad file in the Bug lists.
 Since rsync doesn't check file contents, just sizes, it won't catch any bit
 errors as occurred in the ftp archive. Since they are almost entirely
 ascii files, I'm not worried about that though.

If you use the --checksum option, rsync will spot bit errors, unless they 
manage to produce the same 128-bit MD4 checksum (not likely)

Cheers, Phil.



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Re: fatman too slow from US?

1998-01-09 Thread Philip Hands
 On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, James A.Treacy wrote:
 
 [snip]
  If you'd like, I can up the mirror rate. It's currently once per day for
  the bulk of the pages. The only exception is the bug lists which get
  updated four times per day. The pages are only updated once per day as I
  didn't see the need to it any more frequently and there are so many
  files in the distribution that it really chews up some cpu and ram
  during the updates. 
 
 I'd prefer having a command to force immediate mirroring of the pages. The
 pages don't change very often, but when the change, I want to get them
 up-to-date ASAP :-)

If you are not already doing so, you probably want to use rsync for this, 
since it only copies the changes.  If you want any help setting it up, drop me 
a line.

N.B. The --delete option can be a bit counter-intuitive (read dangerous) on 
pre-1.6.4 versions of rsync.

Cheers, Phil.



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OFF TOPIC: rsync usage (Was: Re: fatman too slow from US?)

1998-01-09 Thread Philip Hands
  If you are not already doing so, you probably want to use rsync for this, 
  since it only copies the changes.  If you want any help setting it up,
  drop me a line.
  
 va is using rsync to mirror the entire web directory and ftp archive.
 
  N.B. The --delete option can be a bit counter-intuitive (read dangerous)
  on pre-1.6.4 versions of rsync.
 
 I'd been meaning to file a bug against it for this. Not only is it
 counterintuitive, but the way it handles directories is just plain wrong.
 It makes it impossible to safely use the --delete option without hiding
 the local directory in an otherwise empty direcory.

That is not actually true.

To copy a directory tree without hiding it in a sub-directory, or deleting all 
it's neighbours, just put a slash on the end of the source directory:

  rsync -avz -e ssh --delete /local/directory/  remote:/mirror/directory

will copy all the filesdirectories under /local/directory to the directory 
/mirror/directory on the remote machine.

This is because it uses everything after the last slash of the source (i.e. 
nothing in this case) to construct the target name.

Also the counter-intuitiveness is fixed in the latest version (after 1.6.4), 
in that it will no longer do the depressing `delete all my neighbours' thing 
if you leave the backslash out.

This means that with the later versions you can acheive the same result thus:

  rsync -avz -e ssh --delete /local/directory  remote:/mirror

[ don't do that with eairlier versions, because it deletes everything
  but `directory' from remote:/mirror  ]

Cheers, Phil.



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