Re: Draft: policy for vendors listed on Debian website
Hi Francesca, On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 12:06:34AM +0100, Francesca Ciceri wrote: is my intent to proceed with a clean up of vendors listed on [1] and [2]. Thanks for doing that! I actually have a few scripts which help with the CD vendor list, they flag sites that are not reachable anymore, don't have the word Debian anywhere on the page etc. Vendors of Debian CD and PCs with Debian pre-installed who want to be listed on Debian website, need to: 1. provide the URL of an up-and-running website and a mail address 2. *explicitly* mention in their website the Debian product for which they want to be listed 3. maintain their product updated: specifically CD vendors must sell copies of recent release, at least of the current oldstable (or stable if there's no oldstable) Please also have a look at the requirements at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info which I slowly added over time in response to problems with some vendors. If you feel that some are too strict, feel free to relax them. I just took a conservative approach - after all, people who trust the Debian website will send real money to the shops. We had a handful of spammers, so it makes sense to check submissions carefully. Some vendors put up a page, then remove it once they're listed, or they don't respond to offers. Others register multiple web shops with slightly different layout which all belong to the same company, I think that is also unfair towards other vendors. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.org | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#589477: Jigdo search still broken.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20:36PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: Where can we find source and documentation about the jigdo search ? The source code used to be downloadable on the search page... I've just uploaded it here: http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/jigdo-search-070308.tar.gz It requires setting up a cronjob to download and pre-process the data. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.org | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101113032426.ga28...@arbonne.lan
Bug#589477: Jigdo search still broken.
Hello, On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:01:35PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: As we've just got another report about jigdo search, I wonder if there are updates about moving this service to get it operationnal. Hi, it's still on my TODO list, though unfortunately I have been rather busy with other things lately. The thing is also: It's not ideal to put it on my own webspace again, nor to use Phil's VM, since neither is an official Debian machine. So either way, it would only be a temporary solution. :-| By the way, thanks for your help with CD vendor entries, Simon - very much appreciated! :) Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.org | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101112060734.ga21...@arbonne.lan
Re: Jigdo search still broken.
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:29:42PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 03:47:56PM +0200, thorres wrote: Hi there, the search for packages inside the jigdo files still does not work an and leads to a 404 error. (http://atterer.org/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=foo) ACK. We should move that content onto a proper Debian service. Richard, can you help with that? Hi - sorry that the search went offline, it happened when I moved servers and I never fixed it. But this should have been on a Debian server in the first place... The setup consists of a cron job to mirror .jigdo files (which could be omitted if we set this up on cdimage) and a PHP file. Is PHP OK for Debian machines? IIRC perl was preferred... It doesn't build a word index, so it needs more CPU than needed, but in practice this wasn't a problem on the old server. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.org | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101006213344.ga24...@meeep.lan
Re: Debian CD vendors list
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 05:27:05PM +0200, Gabor Kum wrote: There are some links on the Debian CD Vendors page, where there is no CD ordering possibility anymore. [...] And some, where there are only old releases. Cool, many thanks for looking through the list! I'll remove the entries during my next update to the list. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.org | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100903115733.gd28...@meeep.lan
Link to .jigdo search engine broken
Hello Joerg, On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 07:01:07AM +0200, Clasen, Joerg (HUH/II) wrote: wenn ich die .jigdo Dateien zum durchsuchen verwende, um herauszufinden welches Paket sich auf welcher CD befindet, bekomme ich einen error 404 Indeed, the link to search through the contents of .jigdo files is broken on http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search. :-/ This is because I recently switched servers and haven't set up the search on the new one. Is there a need for this search feature, do people use it a lot? If so, I can also set it up on my new server. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100607065941.gc14...@meeep.lan
Re: outdated CD/pictures dir (was: www-master move: things to do, new status)
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 02:28:46AM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote: CD/pictures/ CD/pictures/menu-pik.da.png CD/pictures/menu-pik.en.png CD/pictures/menu-pik.ja.png CD/pictures/menu-pik.png - menu-pik.en.png CD/pictures/menu-pik.sv.png CD/pictures/menubar-bl.en.png CD/pictures/menubar-br.en.png CD/pictures/menubar-tl.en.png CD/pictures/menubar-tr.en.png Oh yes, those are left over from the old /CD/ design. Please remove them! Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100405152928.ga8...@arbonne.lan
Re: CD vendor submit script (was: Delivery Status Notification (Failure))
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:54:47PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 08:56:39PM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote: The script should probably not use a case-sensitive search, but currently it does - sorry. submit_cdvendor.pl: if ($myurl-content !~ /Debian/) Richard, if you it to be modified to be case-insensitive, just ask. BTW, do you know whether submit_cdvendor.pl is available in a VCS somewhere ? Hm, having thought about it again, maybe insisting on Debian is better, since that is what we're called. (But I don't have a strong preference either way.) The script was written by Joy - no idea whether it's available in CVS/SVN. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Hi, On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 07:35:08PM +0100, RAZIT.pl INTERNET GROUP oddział EUROPA WSCHODNIA wrote: URL-Debian: http://sklep.razit.pl/index.php/linux/debian.html The specified web site (http://sklep.razit.pl/index.php/linux/debian.html) doesn't mention Debian. If you don't understand this error message, please contact us. Entry not submitted! Please help me :) Our server downloaded http://sklep.razit.pl/index.php/linux/debian.html and looked for the string Debian in the HTML page. I see that you use uppercase DEBIAN - change this to Debian and try again! The script should probably not use a case-sensitive search, but currently it does - sorry. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How vendor pages are maintained?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:40:40AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: From what I remember last time I looked we also have archives of mails sent there so it shouldn't be a problem to get the backlog to newly added people (if you tell us a cut-date). FWIW, I've cleared the backlog for now (unless something slipped through unseen), but help maintaining the list would still be welcome! Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How vendor pages are maintained?
Hello, sorry for processing the submitted requests so infrequently! I am planning to clear the backlog in the next days!! The thing is that this is tiresome manual work that few people apart from me want to do. IMHO, Debian users will leave money with the vendors, so I should try to ensure that the offers are not bogus/malicious, that people really get an official image, etc. CD/DVD vendors often put insufficient info on their pages. Some spammy people just put up some random Debian-related page and hope to get a high-pagerank link from the debian.org website. Others create multiple shops under different URLs and try to gain an unfair advantage by being listed multiple times. [Slightly related: Some more automation would be possible to ensure that we only list up-to-date vendors - weeding out old entries also takes quite some time. To do that, we'd need to require vendors to include fixed strings for each type of image, so the pages can be scraped automatically to look for these strings.] On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:47:46PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Secondly, many thanks for your attention and kind reply. Finally, to be honest, yes; I've passed all of the steps with particular care. Do you know where we can see your submitted info. The form data is sent to cdvend...@d.o, which is not a mailing list, it's just forwarded to a couple of people; csmall, possibly Josip and Phil Blundell(?) - I don't really know. :-| Listmaster should be able to get people added/removed. he does. (csmall used to update it. FYI anyone here with web write access can change such web page but we do not have access to needed information and I do not think as the owner to do it. ) Anyway, waiting for 2 months is not long for how it is managed. I CCed him. It is kind of long for an online shop owner, I feel bad about this... I recently started a new job and moved to another country, which didn't exactly help. There should be more active people behind the cdvendors@ alias. IIRC we had those mails go to debian-cd once upon a time, but people didn't like that for some reason, probably because of the noise it created on the list. As far as I'm concerned, it would be OK to move to a public list. Cheers, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | \/ | http://atterer.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: One of your distribution vendors is no good.
Hello James, we received the complaint below. What is your comment on this problem? If we hear nothing from you, or if we receive further complaints, we might indeed have to remove you from the Debian vendor list. Cheers, Richard On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 07:46:49PM -0600, Bman wrote: On August 16th of this year, I ordered a Debian DVD pack from James Carlin, a U.S. vendor listed on your site. I drive truck OTR, therefore I do not get home very often to check my mail. When I finally did get home and discovered that my DVDs had not arrived, I verified that Pay-Pal had indeed paid James, then I e-mailed him. I have yet to receive an answer from him after more than a month of waiting. Pay-Pal apparently cannot get me a refund. Please at least remove him from your vendor list if you can't get hold of him either so that nobody else gets ripped off by him. What I ordered: Debian: 5 Debian DVD's Version x386, PPC, Etc...: Item Number: 0003 Brian Mast P.O. Box 298 Stover, Mo. 65078 -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?REQ : We are chanching?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q ? our web address?=
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:01:49PM +0200, webad...@chileedu.com wrote: Our old name is: http://www.uchile.cl The new name will be: http://www.chileedu.com Beware, chileedu.com is hosted in Turkey rather than Chile. Looks fishy, don't update any links. Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: aussteigen
Hi Lisbeth, für Nutzer-Support auf deutsch ist eigentlich debian-user-ger...@lists.debian.org gedacht, bitte bei weiteren Problemen dorthin wenden! debian-www beschäftigt sich mit der Verwaltung der Website. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:27:02AM +0200, Lisbeth Leeb wrote: ich bin per zufall zu debian gekommen, möchte daher wieder aussteigen, wie geht das? Das ist sehr vage formuliert - aussteigen? Falls Du meinst, dass auf Deinem Rechner Debian installiert ist: Man kan ein anderes Betriebssystem drüber installieren, dadurch wird Debian gelöscht. Alles Gute, Richard -- __ , | ) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/ | http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: svn or cvs on the website
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,14.Sep.09, 16:59:32, Craig Small wrote: Which one is the correct one to use? And if it is not cvs.d.o then someone needs to update the documentation at http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs CVS is correct. Here are the relevant mails: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2009/06/msg00163.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2009/07/msg00016.html Aaargh - I just realized I have been happily making updates to the CD vendor list in the _SVN_ repo in the last weeks! I thought we'd switched to SVN and never bothered to check whether my changes appeared on www.d.o. Waah!! What a mess. Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: svn or cvs on the website
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:20:06PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: Aaargh - I just realized I have been happily making updates to the CD vendor list in the _SVN_ repo in the last weeks! Turned out to be just one commit of english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD, which I manually inspected and moved over to CVS: Added taobao.iamcj.net (All In One Linux Center by iamcj) Removed no-ip.info - Allan Saito Added darkserver.com.br/debian/debian.htm (Allan Saito) Added todaoferta.uol.com.br/PAULOTWING (Paulo Twing) Added buylinuxiso.com (BuyLinuxIso) Added sites.google.com/site/linux4ugroup/home (san syatem) Updated deburl of simpleserverco.com (The Simple Server Company) Added allandc.wordpress.com/ (Allan Carvalho) Removed centraldossites.com - replaced by acheilinux.com.br (Giovani Dias) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ABOUT VENDORS
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:43:08AM -0700, hitesh Kumar ~L0ve to you wrote: hello i have applied for Debian vendors list still i didn't receive any information regarding this. Yes, we received your information (for all 3 times that you filled out the form). Unfortunately, this is a mostly manual process and I only add batches of new entries every few weeks. Sorry - please be patient. To the mailing list: Ideally, there should be an automated system where each vendor only submits a single URL. A script would then crawl the vendor's pages to a certain depth at regular intervals, and filter out pages that contain predefined tags for the different Debian CD/DVD variants. This would also make it easy to weed out stale entries, sites that are down etc. Unfortunately, I never quite get around to implementing something like this. What script languages are accepted for this type of thing on Debian servers? (I'm much more of a PHP than Perl person...) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: add www.it2l.com to your list
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:00:33PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote: Richard, though you're right, they intend to be listed as merchandising sellers, not CD vendors. Ah OK, I didn't realize that, sorry! Yes, I agree it's OK to list them as merchandising sellers. In that case, I guess it's not really relevant whether they offer CDs/DVDs and what version these disks are. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: add www.it2l.com to your list
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:33:19PM +0200, IT2L wrote: Could you please add a warning that mentions this sold release is oudated ? (or sell Lenny :-) Yes ok, I've added the mention. It's an old stock, we don't sell dvd anymore. I don't know, I wouldn't add CD/DVD vendors who don't have the latest version of Debian on offer! It's a different story if some vendor that is already listed is very slow to update his offered version after a new release, but if the offer is old right from the beginning, this is not very useful. Just my 2¢. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: may I share the Debian forward
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: You are free do give CDs away or sell them for as much as you like, that's okay with us. Look at http://www.debian.org/social_contract for more details about that. You can also register as a Debian CD/DVD vendor, so there will be a link on http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ pointing to your site. See http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info on how to do that. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: paid for DVDs but never received them
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:29:18AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: OK, recheced the Vendors and: 1) LinuxsShop.nu has only 4.0r0 DVD and CD i386/powepc 2) OKIT Is this website in a Dial-Up? I have an internet (backbone) connection of 100 MBit and the website loads slower then a 14400 BpS Modem and then parts of the site are timed out 3) Wermlandsdata has only 4.0r3 DVD i386 Debian-Team: Please can you do something with the three Vendors? The offerins/Sites are not serious. The three sites work for me, all only offer Debian 4. They are serious offers, they're just not up to date. I generally don't tend to remove vendors if they are lagging behind like this, unless their offerings are ridiculously out of date. Mehdi, it may have been worth the try to contact the Swedish vendors and ask whether they offer a newer version! I bought new Debian 5 Lenny package (5 DVD's) from India vendor( Linux Bazar ) on 7th April 2009. I emailed him four Times about when I going to Receive my DVD's. They always send me mail they were unable to download the DVD's. On there website they have written they already have the Debian 5 Lenny DVD's Maybe the next time you should buy from an european country if you live already here. They cheated and lied on the website that they have the DVD's of Debian 5. I am still waiting when they will send it from India :( First, please wait a little longer and keep asking them. Maybe they do have connectivity problems and cannot download the images, and you will still get them once their issues are resolved. If you don't get the DVDs in another 2 weeks or so (and please also if you do get them) write to us about it! I've taken note of your complaint. We generally do not remove vendors from our list after just a single complaint, but we will watch out for further negative reports about this vendor, and remove him if it becomes clear that he is unreliable. All the best, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Checksum links on debian.org
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:21:50PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:48:12PM +0100, Damian Wielocha wrote: I was having problem to find links for debian iso checksums, but guys from ircnet channel help me. I think, mabye You could add them to official site to help some newbie in future. Thanks for the suggestion. Where did you look for them initially (so that we know where to put them)? I'm copying the CD team, as they may already be familiar with this issue. There's an FAQ entry at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify with a fairly vague MD5SUMS files [...] are distributed alongside the jigdo files - any suggestions on how to make it clearer? Did you look at the FAQ and fail to find that entry? The entry currently also has a broken link, I'll fix that shortly. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debian 5 dvd images incomplete!
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:48:02AM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:29:29AM +, Chris Lagan wrote: I am using firefox on windows xp so this seems to be the culprit. I will forward this to the correct team now. Maybe you use FAT32 ? (which doesn't support big files) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463 However, with FAT32 I would expect the download to abort with an error after 4 GB, it would not throw away the most significant file length bit. What version of firefox are you using? If the problem still happens with the latest version, it might be appropriate to file a bug in the Firefox bug tracker. Or maybe you have some kind of download acceleration plugin installed which takes over the download? In that case, check whether it supports huge files. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can not find Debian 4 download
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:09:01PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: @debian-www: Where should we make old ISOs more visible ? Hmm, an FAQ entry has been available for ages: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old I've just updated the link in that FAQ entry to point to the right URL http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ Also, I've added a link to the FAQ entry at the bottom of /CD/ to the sentence For older releases,... I don't think it makes sense to make the link more prominent, the vast majority of users should be fine with the current release. Or what do you think? Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Broken Link to CD Vendor
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 08:12:56PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: the vendor Lehmanns point to http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ which should corrected. OK, fixed! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: untrustworthy vendor
Hello Hugo, sorry for the late reply, I almost failed to notice your mail to debian-www. You are already the second person complaining about this vendor, so for the moment, I have removed them from our vendor list. The other complaint was almost a year ago: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2008/05/msg00010.html To the people at Atua Tech: What is your response to the problems that Hugo has with you? On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:30:49AM -0800, Hugo Martins Bezerra wrote: My name is Hugo and I'm from Brazil. I'm writing in order to inform you about a vendor from Brazil, Atua Tech Desenvolvimento, that I paid to send me DVDs and a book of Debian, but unfortunately they haven't already sent them to me at all. I paid the amount of R$80,00 (something like USD$35,00) on 14th January. They don't have a phone number to call them, and every time that I send an e-mail to them on Fale Conosco (Talk with us), I have no answer. They sent an e-mail to me just to assure me that they received the money. I hope you could help me because I don't know what to do. I just trusted on the Debian Linux partners as I trust on Debian Linux. Yours sincerely, Hugo Unfortunately, there is not much we can do to help you, apart from removing vendors that cause trouble - sorry! All the best, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Internet 3G
Hi, these kinds of questions are more appropriate for debian-user than debian-www! On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 01:17:08AM -0300, adalto araujo wrote: Tenho um modem brt ZTE MF636 3G, gostaria de saber se é compatível com o debian, caso não favor se informar-me qual Linux é compatível. Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=ZTE+MF636+3G+linux Apparently some people have succeeded in using the modem under Linux: http://umtslink.de/3g-forum/showpost.php?s=1f4d208037f347dea692772c188a8883p=660808postcount=6 Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Update Vendor
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:30:43PM -0200, Nadina Castillo wrote: Hello, I have problems to update my data vendor, you hit the description to see if you can do. Thank you! CD vendor information * Update of an existing vendor listing Vendor name: ComunidadGNU URL of vendor: http://www.comunidadgnu.com.ar [...] Hi, my website was www.isos-linux.com.ar before, but now I moved to www.comunidadgnu.com.ar. I would update my details please. Thank you. Nadina Castillo. OK, I've changed the entry! The website should be updated in a few hours. Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#507873: CD vendors cleanup needed
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:34:13AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Package: www.debian.org X-Debbugs-Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forwarded: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm putting this report into the bug tracker so someone else can complete it before I do, if appropriate. OK - it's on my list. *cd-vendor-list-maintainer-hat on* Feel free to do it yourself, though. Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seller from brazil did not send the dvd I bought him
Oi George, thanks for your report! We will watch out for further reports about this vendor! Allan (CCd), what are your comments about this matter? Did you receive the money, did you send the DVDs? Cheers, Richard On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 07:03:10PM +, G Leite wrote: I bought a dvd from a seller in list of debian called Allan Alves Saito and he did not send me it. I payed him on october,27 2008 in bank Unibanco SA from Brazil (R$ 25,00 reais). After that, I have sent a lot of e-mail to him to send me the dvd(debian) and he did not answer me. I would like to inform you take this to provide. Thanks for your attention. George H. T. Leite. -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD vendors on http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.en.html
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 04:27:57PM -0700, Arthur Wiedmer wrote: I am sorry if it is the wrong mailing-list. I was just browsing the debian.org site and looking at CD vendors. It seems that the second one in the US, 1st Debian, does not own the domain 1stdebian.com anymore. Maybe it's out of business. I guess it may be time to remove the link. Thanks - you're right. I've removed the entry. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /CD/vendors/ sorting issue
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 04:01:03AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:46:24AM +1000, Craig Small wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 03:18:53AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: wml -q -D CUR_YEAR=2008 -o UNDEFuEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] index.wml mp4h: CD/DVD Vendor entries not sorted - 'openIdeas' should appear before 'www.isos-linux.com.ar' in the list! Hmm, I didn't know we checked for that. I renamed the vendor but didn't move them. Did you shift them or you want me to do it? I had no idea we could make mp4h print out such pretty error messages :) please move it, I didn't touch it. Sorry about the trouble! - I put in the check because the list always used to be somewhat-but-not-actually-fully-sorted, and I wanted to keep it sorted. If necessary, the error could be turned into a warning (which would be more likely to get lost in the rest of the output). BTW, there's also a check to verify that an entry appears in the right country section. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble with vendor
Hi Rüdiger, sorry to hear that you are having problems with this vendor. On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:30:49PM +0200, Rüdiger Schmitz wrote: please remove the vendor Lunatec Computer Ltd.(http://www.debian-iso.de) from the list of DVD distributors. I ordered 5x Debian DVDs on 13.03.2008 and paid in advance. The package has not been delivered until now. They announced to refund my money. But this never happened. We already had a report about some problems in February. At the time, it seemed only an issue with a single customer, so they remained on the list. http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2008/02/msg00225.html Given that 1) you're the second person to complain and 2) their site is offline, I have now removed them from our list. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Vendor
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:30:20AM +0200, FOSU Media Service wrote: We would like to be included in the Debian Vendor. Here is the information requested : I'm opposed to re-adding Chris Unger back to our list of vendors. Formerly, he used to have lots and lots of cloned shops - altogether, _seven_ different domains in the list were his. This is unfair and unacceptable behaviour. I don't see a reason why we should do him a favour and direct customers with money his way. http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/06/msg00080.html Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web site issue: Non valid CSS
Hi Marvin, On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:05:03AM -0600, maty1206 Linuxeando wrote: Please, fix the issue http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.debian.org%2F The validator is wrong, the property -moz-border-radius is permitted by the spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-css3-syntax-20030813/#vendor-specific Maybe the validator classifies it as an error because the use of vendor extensions is discouraged. Basically, I do agree that it is a mistake to use proprietary CSS syntax on our site. :-/ Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Online Vendors List Entry
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:46:37PM +1200, David Latham wrote: I have an oscommerce online store where I offer Debian. I have tried filling out the online form to have my store submitted for consideration to be on the list. That was about a week ago now and it is still not there. I have not heard from anyone if there was a problem with my submission. Sorry - I'll add it this weekend! I just haven't had time lately to process the submitted sites. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken link on http://www.debian.org/CD/pik/
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:42:06AM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: I guess pik was a ancestor of jigdo ? Yes! Does someone see any reason to not remove this /pik/ directory ? No - I've removed it. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Demande de Debian's DVD
Hello Makhlouf, I'll answer in English, as my French is not very good. On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:49:54AM +, Makhlouf Ledmi wrote: en effet la région ou le pays où j'habite n'avait pas de vendeur debian, le débit de connexion internet est trés faible (je ne peux pas télécharger les images DVD), et j'aimerais bien récuperer une version de debian de votre part si c'est possible. If Algeria does not have a Debian vendor, then search for a vendor in another country that ships DVDs internationally (Expédition internationale - Oui). Many countries such as Italy/Spain/France/Germany have vendors which can send you a DVD. Debian itself does not send out DVDs. If ordering a DVD from abroad is too expensive for you, consider contacting your local Linux User Group (LUG). For example, a search on the web lead me to http://www.lugoal.org/, but I'm not sure who they are. You might be able to find other LUGs. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestions for the CD page
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 04:02:18PM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 1) The order of the bulleted items can use some improvement. Here is what I suggest . minimal bootable image . downloading with jigdo . downloading using HTTP, FTP . downloading using bittorrent . buy finished CD-ROMs I think we've had a few discussions over the years about the best order. In my view, the outcome is that there is no single best order. For example, IIRC I once saw usage statistics which indicated that the majority of users went to HTTP/FTP immediately. This makes sense; people don't want to experiment with some strange jigdo thing they've never heard of before, they want the full Debian distribution on CD, and they want it right now, without more than a quick glance at the page. Of course, this collides with our interests of conserving mirror bandwidth, avoiding downloads of packages that will never be needed etc... Another example is that downloading entire CD/DVD images is prohibitively expensive in some countries, so people will rather be looking for ways to buy Debian on CD. That said, Joy (IIRC it was him) introduced a separate CD vendors link in the main navigation on debian.org a while back, so I agree it makes sense to move the vendor link to the bottom, as people reach /CD/ via a link that says CD ISO images. 2) I think it would be nice to refer the minimal bootable CD image as net install image or the other way around through out the document. Two kinds of terms used for the same thing could be confusing. Yeah - wasn't it called net install image for a long time anyway?! 3) At the bottom of the page, there is a line such as debian_on_cd: faq · net_install · buy · jigdo · http_ftp · misc which gives an overview of the whole page. I think this part can go on the top instead of being at the bottom. That way, the user knows what is in store without requiring to read the whole page. Originally, it was also present at the top as a horizontal bar, but Jutta moved it to the left-hand menu. IMHO, it doesn't make sense to duplicate it at the top - if at all, we should think about removing the information at the bottom. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble with vendor
Hi, I got a response from Lunatec: They say they sent off the DVD, and an investigation they started later with German Post indicated that it had reached its intended destination. Despite this report, they sent off another DVD, and never heard back, so assumed everything was OK. For us Debian people, it's impossible to tell whose fault it is, so I cannot help you any further, Michael, sorry! We generally only remove entries from the Debian vendor list if there are several complaints and/or no response from the vendor - for now, this is not the case for Lunatec. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble with vendor
Hello Lunatec, we have received the complaint below from a user. What is your response to this? If several people contact us with similar complaints, we may have to remove you from our list of vendors. (Also, I might remove you if you fail to respond to this mail.) Michael, do I understand correctly that you sent money and did not get it back, but that you did not receive the DVD either? Cheers, Richard On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 08:59:36PM +0100, Tekloth Michael wrote: Hello debian team, on 18.07.2007 I ordered 1 x Debian 4.0 'Etch' DVD 6,99 EURO via Lunatec Computer Ltd. the product was announced as available. Next Day i remitted the money. Two weeks later i asked via E-Mail about the state of the delivery and a member of the company told me that the package was send on 24th of July. Also they told me that they get no returning of the send package. The offered to start an investigation and want to resend the package. On 5th of september a member of the company answer to my question that there was no result on the investigation. Lunatec offered to send the package by the next days. This Mail was the last answer. Since this day it is impossible to reach the company by E-mail or Telephone. I found Lunatec on this page: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ http://www.debian-iso.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=debian I think its not good to keep companies with such a behaviour in a list with recommended distributors sincerely Yours Michael Tekloth Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with CD submission vendor script
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 11:26:17PM +1100, Craig Small wrote: I noticed the last few of the CD vendor emails are missing the close tag and possibly other lines in them. Has someone made some adjustments in the last few weeks? I think it behaved like that from the beginning (i.e. when it was switched to XML-style output). It seems like the closing / is omitted if the vendor enters nothing in the comment field. If noone else gets to it, I'll try to work out what broke. If it is only the close tag then it doesn't matter too much. I just hope it is not dropping any lines of information too. I don't think so -- thanks for having a look at it! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: misleading information,
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 01:11:06PM +0100, Bruno Hopp wrote: as i am currently browsing through: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/doc/ it appears to me there is one misguiding entry on gnuplot-doc: Citing: gnuplot-doc (4.2.2-1) Dokumentation für den GNU Privacy Guard (sorry this appears in german language, as I am german). Thanks for your report - I'm CCing Frank Lichtenheld who might be able to have a look at this. The problem only appears to occur on some language-specific versions of the page. The code behind the page was recently updated: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg1.html. That message mentions some problems with broken string translation. Maybe the broken translation code can be switched off until it works properly? Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: little address bar logo
Hi Ethan, On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:57:16AM -0400, Ethan Gilbert wrote: browser. I can't find anything in the source for the page that looks like it would do that. Google does it too, wikipedia, and various other sites. Is it a css thing? How do you do that? It the following bit: link rel=shortcut icon href=favicon.ico Browsers also automatically look for /favicon.ico on any site, without anything in the HTML. But using link is a bit cleaner... See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Become a CD Vendor
Hello Hemal, On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:31:21PM +0600, Hemal Dissanayake wrote: When i try to submit a CD Vendor application, The Country Sri Lanka is not in your country list. Please be kind enough to provide us the details of the procedure to be a Vendor in Sri Lanka. Please just select another country from the list, and say in the comment that the country is actually Sri Lanka. I will then add the country to our list. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wishlist for the CD Vendor submission page
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 09:03:47AM +1000, Craig Small wrote: Also, now that the format of the vendor list has change, the submission form needs changing. The CD type should be removed and just made to CD or DVD check boxes, as that is what we track in any case. What do people think? Richard, I'm particularly interested in your opinion as you put a fair lot of the changes through. Yeah, actually I already agreed with Josip about exactly those kinds of changes to the format - as I'm not a big Perl hacker, he needs to make the changes, I'm sure he'll eventually get around to it. :-) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#441243: Problem determining dependencies if user is blind
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:41:27PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 06:28:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
What's the best fix? Put depends/recommends/suggests headings in
between the ul tags? Try to make the images replace the bullet points
somehow? (list-style: none and reduce the left margin or padding?) Or
use different shapes for the different types? (disc, circle, square?)
Suggestions welcome.
IMHO the root of the problem is the use of class=hidecss. The .hidecss
rule simply prevents rendering for all media types with display: none.
However, the rule for #pdeps ul.uldep only replaces bullets with
dep.gif on visual media types. For other media types (including aural),
the image (and its alt text) simply disappears.
I would suggest the following solution:
1) Replace these img class=hidecss with
span class=nonvisualdepends:/span
Putting an img in there and then suppressing its being displayed with
CSS is actually paradoxical... the only justification is compatibility
with browsers which do not support CSS at all, like lynx.
2) Introduce a rule to have .nonvisual rendered only for braille, embossed,
speech, tty:
@media handheld, print, projection, screen, tv {
.nonvisual { display: none; }
}
As usual, this is completely untested! :-)
Beware that just mentioning e.g. handheld anywhere in the stylesheet can
have a major effect on rendering in certain browsers; IIRC, Opera small
screen rendering has different rendering modes for pages which it thinks
were designed for desktop screens, and for pages whose authors have
apparently thought of the handheld media type.
Cheers,
Richard
PS: While you're at it, let the legend box (#pdeplegend) disappear on
non-visual media types, where it's not needed:
@media braille, embossed, speech, tty {
.visual { display: none; }
}
table id=pdeplegend class=visual summary=legend...
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Re: Vendor List
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 08:43:10PM +0200, Moelands Digital wrote: Would it be possible to put me on your CD/DVD vendors list? Yes - in the future, please use the form reachable from http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info for similar requests. - Supported architectures: i386 and x86_64 There is no Debian architecture named x86_64 - I've used amd64 which is probably what you mean. I've just added you to our vendor list. The web page at http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ should be updated in a few hours! All the best, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cleanup of the Debian CD/DVD vendor list
Hello, this mail is sent (in Bcc) to a number of vendors in the Debian CD/DVD vendor list, http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/. I have just removed these vendors' entries from the list for various reasons. If my removal of your shop was in error, please apply to be re-added to the list via http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info. To be re-added, your site should allow users to make up their mind about buying from you, by citing prices, exact product information, a way to contact you, and a procedure to actually buy something. Also, you should offer Debian 4.0, not any earlier version. Some vendors did not specify contact information - that's just bad luck for them, they will not get this message... Here's the log of my changes: removed sarahgifts.com - no longer offers Debian DVDs removed geocities.com/luizotavio92/ - has been showing a maintenance message for quite a while removed centraldossites.com - no longer offers Debian DVDs removed opendoorsoftware.com - site shows an error message only removed buylinuxdvd.com - site shows Apache dir listing only removed e-officecom.com - domain offline removed alllinuxcd.com - connection refused removed market.altkomp.pl - deburl outdated, also site only offers 3.0r2 removed subasta.pl - host unreachable removed distributor.infinitaus.com - site shows empty Apache dir listing only removed chocky.org - redirects elsewhere, no mention of CDs on new page removed 205lan.com - only displays relocating to a new server message removed madtux.org - no longer offers Debian DVDs Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions
Hi ?®!©, On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:21:03AM +0200, ?®!© Jansen wrote: I would like to ask the differences between Intel x86 and Intel IA-64? The specification of my laptop is Intel Core Duo T7100 (1.8GHz), with this specification which one should I install so It is compatible with my laptop? Your question is more appropriate for debian-user, but anyway: Short answer: Use i386. The ia64 architecture is something completely different and incompatible with your notebook. You mean amd64, not ia64 - amd64 is the version for 64-bit AMD and Intel processors. For notebooks, AFAIK running a 64-bit OS does not currently have any advantages. Most of this information can also be found on the Debian web pages! :) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTML-XHTML transition [Re: I feel to complain again]
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:03:10PM +0300, NAGY Viktor wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -hr +hr / I'm wondering if we have a proper plan for switching to xhtml, or this markup polishing is just a substitute activity -- in the sense that yes, we know that xhtml requires closing all elements so let's close them occasionally but we don't really see how and when we can switch to xhtml. I'd like to know this too! The above change is bad IMHO because it means the page is *neither* valid XHTML (wrong doctype) nor valid HTML 4 strict (see explanation below [0]). Jutta invested a lot of work into making the pages validate, so unless someone really wants to convert the entire site within the next weeks (including changing the doctype), such problematic changes should not be made! BTW, AFAIK br/br is fine for both SGML and XHTML standards-wise. (The W3C _recommends_ to use br/ in this case, but does not mandate it, see http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#IDAK0FS.) But would advocate moving to XHTML directly, instead of using it as a workaround. Cheers, Richard [0]: The W3C validator will actually output that the page *is* valid HTML 4 strict, but that is not really correct: br/ is not a valid SGML tag. The reason why the W3C validator will not flag it as an error lies in the ugliness of SGML. SGML supports so-called net tags, a shorthand which allows you to write this: p/This is the content of the paragraph./ instead of this: pThis is the content of the paragraph./p So, to the validator the character sequence br/ means a br tag, whose content follows after the '/', the content being the character ''. (Apparently a newline is allowed instead of the second '/'? I don't know.) However, br is defined as having empty content, so as soon as the '' following the br tag is seen, the SGML parser implicitly adds a closing /br. As a result, in SGML the characters br/ are equivalent to br/brgt; - not what you usually mean when you write br/!! :-( See http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/empty.html for a great in-depth explanation. However, the details are horrible, you probably don't want to bother trying to understand them! ;-) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML-XHTML transition [Re: I feel to complain again]
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 10:32:34PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: No. Have you actually looked at the pages that are produced? Wml automatically changes hr/ to hr unless explicitly told not to. Ah, OK - thanks, I didn't realize that! I did have a look at the page, but assumed that the relevant CVS change just hadn't made it to the HTML pages yet. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: data about CD/DVD vendors not up to date
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:46:17PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: the data about German CD and DVD vendors is not up to date. Several vendors sell only DVDs while the table states that they sell (also) CDs. Hi Wolfgang, thanks for the hint! It is a quite boring job to keep the list up to date. It is already in a much better state than only a few months ago, as we've slowly been removing outdated entries, updating URLs etc. Checking and updating the CD/DVD entries as well as the list of architectures is on my to do list. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New format of CD vendors page now in CVS
Hello, I've just committed Ricky's patch! I hope I haven't broken anything... http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ I have tried to improve the look of the tables with a little more CSS - I hope you don't mind, Ricky! In particular, I've turned the th blue, removed the fixed width of columns and replaced the homepage link with a small home symbol. There is certainly still room for improvement, so if something about the new look irritates you, please say so or send patches. :-) Many thanks for your work, Ricky! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendors Page
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 03:04:17PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: I guess I'm mostly worried by certain common cases. Take for example the 93 vendors who just offer i386 media and consider somebody that needs amd64 discs. Grouping architectures together would still affect a decent amount of people, I think. That's true. As long as the table doesn't get too wide I'm fine with any other solution. Hmm - it would theoretically be possible to generate 1 HTML pages for different (sets of) architectures, but I don't see a good way of doing this - especially in view of the errors in the offered arches informmation of the current vendor entries. However, actually IMHO the current state of things is quite nice! Many vendor entries span 3 or 4 lines, but the look is a big improvement over the previous list, so even if you don't have any bright idea of making the arch list shorter, I have no problem with you committing your current work! The fact that the list may be outdated is another bad problem, though- perhaps emails could be sent to try and verify the information? Yes, although maybe it would also be possible to gather the information automatically from the vendor's page - most vendors do use the standard Debian architecture names, only some use 32-bit for i386 or similar. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendors Page
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:13:26AM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: Richard Atterer wrote: One thing I've been thinking about is the set of offered architectures. IMHO it would be enough not to list each arch, but only to distinguish the cases PC (i386 and possibly amd64), some (some more arches, but not all; typically powerpc) and all. Hmmm, do you think such classifications would be as useful to users? The architectures list is definitely too long, but I'd feel bad making users with a specific other arch in mind clicking through several vendors to find media. I really can't see any way to cut the size down without making the list harder to use/understand. Yes, I know what you mean... :-/ I feel the same, but I thought that the list would become more readable for 90% of the users, while only making usage /slightly/ less comfortable for the remaining users. Anyway, as I said the list of arches is often outdated; non-PC users will currently click on links only to find that their arch isn't offered after all by a vendor. WRT the URLs: I think the Debian URL is the more important one for people. Would it make sense to use that URL for the vendor name and to add a Home or similar link? (Or possibly a small home symbol?) The new format should look something like this: country code=ar name=ARc ... vendor name=AGNUS url=http://www.agnus.com.ar/; deburl=http://www.agnus.com.ar/site/agnus/debian/; contribution=no ... Looks great! :) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendors Page
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 09:12:10PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: Holger Levsen wrote: Looks good, thanks! Yay! Do you think this is ready to be committed? It's kind of time-consuming to re-modify vendors.CD each time somebody adds/updates an entry (since I changed the format of that file pretty significantly). Sorry, I forgot about this thread - thanks for your patience! IMHO it is /almost/ ready for committing - the remaining issue to resolve is to reduce the width of the table rows. Unfortunately, your home DSL appears to be down often and I can't access your version of the page right now, so this is from memory. One thing I've been thinking about is the set of offered architectures. IMHO it would be enough not to list each arch, but only to distinguish the cases PC (i386 and possibly amd64), some (some more arches, but not all; typically powerpc) and all. The other thing: WRT offered CD/DVD types, the information that's currently in the list is incorrect in many cases anyway, so instead of the CD type and DVD type entries, I'd just have one column CD/DVD which can have one of the values CD, DVD or CD+DVD. No more non-US, vendor release etc. - that kind of thing is rarely offered by vendors these days. Furthermore, the title attribute could be used. For example, just enter no in one table cell, but add the annotation title=Vendor does not allow dontations to the Debian project (or whatever). The latest changes (until somebody changes vendors.CD again): http://debian.riczho.dyndns.org/test/vendors-5-ricky.patch And the output: http://debian.riczho.dyndns.org/CD/vendors/ Oh, sorry - that somebody would have been me... :-/ I wasn't aware that you changed the format. What is the new format? Have you switched to a descriptive, XML-like syntax? - that would be cool! It would also make the vendor.CD format future-proof in case there are more changes to the formatting. In WML, ISTR that you can store information with set-var and later recall it for the formatting of an entire vendor entry. BTW, don't convert the entire list manually! In case your bash/perl/whatever scripting abilities are not up to writing a conversion script, just provide example manual conversions of the first entry or two, and I'll knock up something to convert the entire list. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Vendors Page
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 07:28:00PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: Here's a mockup: http://riczho.dyndns.org:8080/CD/vendors/ Unfortunately, I had to scale the font size down, and the columns don't match up all throughout. The Architecture/DVD/CD columns also get a bit long, but I wasn't sure how else to place them without trading off space. IMHO this already looks much better than the current page. However, the (sometimes) wide table is not ideal. I'm not sure how to fix this - any ideas? Maybe one could just omit some columns, or make them contain less text in other ways? Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendors Page
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 04:46:50PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: As per the todo list at http://wiki.debian.org/WebDesignToDo, I made a patch to replace the tables at /CD/vendors with a more semantically correct unordered list/definition list. This looks OK, but while you're at it, maybe you could look at presenting the information in a denser way? Would it be possible to reduce each vendor entry to one row in a data table? This could be achieved by not spelling out URLs and mail addresses. E.g. for the first entry, something like tr tdArgentina/td tda href=http://www.openideas.com.ar;openIdeas/a/td tda href=http://www.openideas.com.ar/debian-cds.html;Official CD/a/td tda href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Email/a/td td title=No contribution to Debian possibleNo/td td title=Will not ship overseasNo/td tdi386, amd64, IA-64/td /tr There might be some problems with the table getting too wide, e.g. with many architectures... what do you think? Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendor
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:06:40PM +0200, Chris Unger wrote: Now is no link from us online. Can you make one link to us, please? No, sorry. You are a spammer and have deceived our users for long enough. You had _seven_ shops in our list - and you didn't even mention that fact when you asked where your links had gone, you only ever kept talking about two shops. Go away. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Vendor
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 03:36:52PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote: To me it doesn't seem like a real vendor. Should I just leave it, contact the webmaster or add it? It looks like a Chris Unger is multiplexing these sites; Many thanks for spotting this! I haven't checked the whois entries myself yet, but I'm inclined to remove *all* his shops for intentionally deceiving us. I should probably knock up a script one of these days which looks for similarities in the whois entries, similar server IP addresses etc... In fact, just looking, it's quite likely that a lot of these sites are duplicates (or near duplicates) of eachother: index.php/cPath/161_50 -- shows up for the debian page alot advanced_search_result.php?keywords=debian -- as does this Hmm, one would have to take a closer look but I guess these entries are OK - lots of vendors use osCommerce, which tends to create these kinds of URLs. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help me! - deleted /bin/hostname
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:11:33AM +0700, Mr. Chu wrote: I am using Debian Etch but yesterday, by mistake I delete the file: /bin/hostname . So I can't run Apache or any service concerning Webserver but I don't want to install Debian again. So you can help me by send to me package: */bin/hostname*. Hi, this is a topic for the debian-user mailing list, not debian-www, but I'll answer anyway. To fix this you need to download the hostname package from http://packages.debian.org/hostname Be sure to select the right version depending on what version of Debian you are running. Download the .deb file, then open a command shell and use this command to reinstall the package: dpkg -i hostname_*.deb ...And do I need to mention one of the basic rules when working with Linux? *Don't work as root unless you really really have to!* :-) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: information.for Debian
¡Hola Eduardo! Thank you for trying to promote Debian in Paraguay! :-) We can include you in our list of Debian CD/DVD vendors on http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/. However, this is only possible if you sell Debian CDs or DVDs, not if you only offer servers with Debian pre-installed. I had a look at your site and there is no information on what CDs/DVDs exactly you offer, and no price information. Most links from the home page only lead to 404 Not Found error pages. You need to fix these problems before we can list you on debian.org. Once you have done this, you can use the form that is reachable via http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info to submit your information. All the best, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doubts and Ideas
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:03:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:00:38PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: The current system was implemented by Josip recently, and is a big improvement over the previous state: ...the previous state being that a vendor mails assorted bits of information to a mail address, and then a human editor *must* take their input apart weed out the garbage, and rewrite data into WML syntax. [...] FWIW, I'm unable to send my comments (quoted in part by Josip above, as I mailed him directly) to this mailing list. Apparently they are always deleted by the list's spam filter. :-( Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doubts and Ideas
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Huh? I don't see anything missing in the thread. Do you mean http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/05/msg00235.html Oops - yes, I meant that one! :-o I did check my own spam folder before posting... somehow I missed my own mail or it got lost somewhere else on the way. Sorry for the noise! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doubts and Ideas
Hello, with my CD vendor list editor hat on: On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:25:31PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: = About Who's using Debian and CD Vendors = It would be possible to have a very minimal system to take care of those submissions, I think it would help a lot people doing this job to keep track of what was already included and what still needs to be done, the system could even send e-mails to -www-cvs. Having an automatic tool would certainly speed up the time into getting this information into the site. There is already a template, so enforcing it would be simple. Could it be written in PHP/Perl using a sqlite database? Yes, why not. It would not be able to be hosted at www.debian.org, but we could point people to an application at say, submissions.debian.net or submit.debian.org, which would be a standalone server (no mirrors) and take where dynamic applications could be hosted. The current system was implemented by Josip recently, and is a big improvement over the previous state: On http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding-form, CD vendors fill out the form, the results are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a standard format. This means that we have to copy paste the entries into the webwml/english/CD/vendors.CD file in CVS, *manually* sort the list, double-check everything works as expected... Finally, the auto-generated mail needs to be replied to, to inform the vendor about his being added. A CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is necessary to avoid duplication of effort, which increases the amount of mail to be handled by everybody. Wishlist: - entries can be approved for addition to the vendors list with a single click on a web page - sending an email to the submitter is done with another click. Optionally, I can add a comment, e.g. why I'm *not* adding the entry. A default text you have been added is supplied by default - I can leave private comments on why I'm unsure whether to add the entry, only readable by other DDs - I need not periodically poll a web application for new entries, but get a mail e.g. once a day which reminds me that new entries are awaiting approval. IMHO, we should not re-invent the wheel here, but use a standard RT system like bugzilla. You only need to implement the part which takes the supplied information and puts it on the web pages somehow. *BUT* actually I'm not /that/ unhappy with the current system. The number of submissions is usually fairly low, only now, after the release, the is a certain surge of new submissions. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#425771: curl command quoted on 'Downloading Debian CD/DVD Images via http/ftp' webpage will not work
Hello, thanks for your report! I've added the options -O and -L (follow redirects) to the example on the web page. On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:04:23PM +, Alan Young wrote: Also, there is nothing whatever to be gained by invoking the -C - option when starting a fresh download using curl. Right, but the whole point of the exercise is to have curl resume the download when it has been interrupted. So we just provide one command which works in both cases, new download and resumed download. I suggest that the command given on http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ be reworded to curl -O URL. No, I left the -C - in. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/DVD vendors page outdated
Hi Detlef, On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 10:53:47AM +0200, Detlef Niehof wrote: As a user, I find the page very confusing. I had to ask one vendor of Debian DVDs to learn that: - contrib is part of the official CDs/DVDs - non-US is obsolete since Debian 3.1 (Sarge) [...] Any chance for a clean-up of this page? I'm sorry to hear that you had problems understanding the page! Maintaining it isn't the most interesting of jobs, so the outdated information didn't get removed. I've removed all non-US-related stuff and added a description of contrib instead. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mass CD vendor removal on /CD/vendors/
Hello, I've just gone through the entire CD vendor list on http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ and removed vendors whose websites were gone or which didn't provide enough information for visitors to make a buying decision - in particular, no prices or product information. I have sent mails to all removed vendors, so hopefully in those cases where I've made a mistake, the entry can be quickly re-added. All in all, I have removed 54 vendors! :-o Over the years, quite a bit of cruft seems to have accumulated... 209 vendors remain in the list. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: I would like to sell Debian Linux
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 03:36:04AM -0300, Juan Manuel wrote: My name is Juan Manuel Arbotti. I am from Argentina, Rosario city. I would like to distribute Debian Linux, primary, in my city. I am working on the site that soon will be able: www.distrorosario.com.ar Hi, I've just added your site to our list - the web page at http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ should be updated in a few hours. Sorry for the slow response! All the best, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novos Vendedores à L ista dos Vendedores de CD e Consultor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:15:40PM -0300, Tiago Celuppi wrote: Good Night My name is Tiago has a computer science company and wants to sell cds of debian in Brazil. Name of the Salesman: Tiago Celuppi URL of the Salesman: http://www.tecel.com.br www.tecel.com.br Hello, your website does not seem to offer Debian, so I have not added it. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian CD vendor submission page problem
Hello there, this is the right email address for your issue. :) In short, this appears to be a problem with your server setup, as other people are successfully submitting information via the form. On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:49:52PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried several times now, to submit my website as your CD vendor in Poland. Every time I finish the form and send over to you I get error message : The following entries were submitted: Vendor: SVT Submission-Type: new The specified web site (http://www.svt.pl) cannot be accessed. The error message returned was: 403 Forbidden If you don't understand this error message, please contact us. Entry not submitted! In order to avoid automated spam via the form, the form CGI tries to download the page you submitted http://www.svt.pl and searches for the word Debian inside it. However, when contacting your server, it only gets a 403 response instead of a HTML document. Our server sends the following HTTP request to yours: GET / HTTP/1.1 TE: deflate,gzip;q=0.3 Connection: TE, close Host: www.svt.pl User-Agent: libwww-perl/5.805 Your server's response is as follows: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:42 GMT Server: Apache Content-Length: 321 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN htmlhead title403 Forbidden/title /headbody h1Forbidden/h1 pYou don't have permission to access / on this server./p pAdditionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request./p /body/html Please check your setup. In particular, check whether your configuration includes any protection against automated spiders, bots, or similar... Consider completely disabling this protection, as it can cause lots of problems for people out there. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste
[They want to be added to the CD vendor list] Hallo, On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:05:19PM +0200, Ruth Spinnler wrote: wir sind Linux-Shop Betreiber folgender Seite: www.mylinuxstore.de und bitten Sie höflichst uns in Ihre Liste aufzunehmen. Bitte folgen Sie dazu den Anweisungen auf http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding Alles Gute, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by joy: webwml/english/CD/vendors adding-form.wml
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 01:47:12AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 01:44:37PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: * Your form does not make a distinction between CDs and DVDs. vendors.CD has a cdtype and dvdtype distinction, although it's not used much. But IMHO, not distinguishing between different media on our vendor page is fine! (Same goes for VendorRelease.) I modelled the form page (adding-form) after the instructions page (adding), so if you think that those should be added, why not commit it to the original page? Well, IMHO it's fine if this information is not listed on our page... I'm interested! :) I'd be happy to add you to the cdvendors alias, just send me the preferred address. Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] - thanks! If the others don't mind the CD vendor spam too much, maybe we could keep using debian-www for this? (Or debian-cd, or another public mailing list.) Well, the problem here is e-mail spam. Even if we do publish the sales e-mail address legally, we don't tell people that their submission From: address will also end up in the public list archive even if it is different from the sales address. There will be no submission From: if people use the web form. Additionally, you can antispamify the address in the body of the mail, e.g. by replacing the @ with a space. I hear you on the select club issue. Currently, the mails are received at master and archived at www-master, and that machine isn't available to all developers to log into - AFAIR? This way, someone needs to be both a developer and has to request the login privilege over there in order to read the old mailbox which is located at /org/www.debian.org/mail/cdvendors Are those two hurdles too much? IMHO, yes. I didn't know where to find the cdvendors mbox, nor that there was an archive at all. I think it's more likely that someone else picks up the job if they are a regular debian-www subscriber and see lots of unprocessed vendor requests. *shrug* But you could also make the submission script output a message which tells the submitter to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if their request is not processed within a week or two. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by joy: webwml/english/CD/vendors adding-form.wml
Hi Josip, I think the CD vendor form is a nice idea, thanks for your work! Some suggestions: * Maybe add a short note which says that the mail address will be made public on www.d.o. This may be obvious from looking at the vendor page, but some people are still surprised by the amount of spam they get once their address is on our site. :) * The comment field should have a note that comments should be written in English. * I have been wondering for a while: Should we slowly move away from using CD? CDs will become obsolete sooner or later. Maybe talk about media only? * Your form does not make a distinction between CDs and DVDs. vendors.CD has a cdtype and dvdtype distinction, although it's not used much. But IMHO, not distinguishing between different media on our vendor page is fine! (Same goes for VendorRelease.) * Clear form shouldn't be put in forms anymore, it was a mistake to ever include it in HTML. The danger of people clicking it accidentally is much higher than any use it may have. On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:13:49AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: This should be functional now, I debugged the CGI script. It receives input from the above web form, vets it a bit, and sends it in a more structured format via e-mail. BTW, it would be cool to have vendors.CD in a more structured format as well! Something similar to Mirrors.masterlist would be nice. And the vendors page itself could also be made much more compact, e.g. a table with just one line per vendor. Currently, repeating all those long URLs in the text of the page bloats the layout. *sigh* It's one of those things I always wanted to do when I have time. ;-/ The generated mails are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] right now, which is currently just [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that in turn currently expands to Craig Small, Matt Kraai, Frank Lichtenfeld and me. I haven't been paying attention lately, but the CVS log of editors of the vendors.CD file in 2006 and 2007 shows most activity from Richard Atterer, Alexander Schmehl and David Moreno Garza; if any of you are interested in this, please do let me know. I'm interested! :) However, actually I'm comfortable with the current state of things, i.e. sending vendor applications to debian-www. Reason: Over time, some people lose interest in tasks like this, and others become interested. If only a select club of people receives new vendor applications, it is hard for someone new to pick up the work. If the others don't mind the CD vendor spam too much, maybe we could keep using debian-www for this? (Or debian-cd, or another public mailing list.) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy unsubscription Batman, this list is quiet
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:51:26AM +1000, Craig Small wrote: I must of got unsubscribed a long time ago and never realised. I did think it was strange noone was changing their CD vendor details and all you lot are quiet. Anyhow, I'm back! Has anyone been updating the CD vendor pages? Yes, I have been doing it! :) Welcome back! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendor
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:26:06PM +0100, Linux Distro UK wrote: Vendor Name: - Linux Distro UK URL of Vendor: - https://linux-distro.co.uk OK, I've just added you to our list! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian CD Distributor
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:38:05AM +0200, :) :) :) :) :) :) wrote: e-mail address wrong no [EMAIL PROTECTED] only [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, fixed! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian CD vendor: No info on website WRT prices/how to order
Hello, I'm currently going through our list of CD vendors to remove stale entries. I noticed that apart from we're a Debian CD vendor, there is no information whatsoever. This way, the page is not very useful. Please provide more information on prices, what types of CDs/DVDs are available, how to order, etc! Otherwise, the entry might be removed in the future. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fwd: Vendedors Debians in Mexico.
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 01:08:07PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: * Richard Atterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070406 13:55]: Etch will not include an official amd64 DVD, although unofficial images will be available. Uh? There must be a missunderstanding; why should we not release amd64 on DVD? It's a common architecture nowadays (and weekly DVDs images were created why it was called testing). Ah, sorry - yes, I mixed up sarge and etch: For Debian 4.0 (etch), amd64 is an officially supported architecture. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-Reseller
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:16:18PM +0100, Heiko Haedicke wrote: - Meissner Haedicke Gbr - HH-CM Solutions - www.Magic-Price.de Hi, I've just added your shop to our vendor list, the website should be updated in a few hours. Sorry for the delay, but the entry will be there by the time of the release! :) Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian CD Distributor
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:20:06PM +0200, :) :) :) :) :) :) wrote: *Vendor:* Torrentmania Debian Grup *URL:* http://www.torrentmania.info http://torrentmania.info/ Hi, I've just added your shop to our vendor list, the website should be updated in a few hours. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Vendor list
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 06:45:15PM +0200, Yves Hoppe wrote: Vendor Name: Lunatec Computer Ltd. URL: www.iso-linux.de Hi, I've just added your shop to our vendor list, the website should be updated in a few hours. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Vendedors Debians in Mexico.
Hello, On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 03:37:33PM -0500, Itzcoalt Alvarez M. wrote: Vendor Name: Joiz.Net URL of Vendor www.joiz.net OK, I've just added your shop to our vendor list, the website should be updated in a few hours. What architectures your CDs are for. i386 , x64 There is no x64 architecture - for Debian, we only have ia64 and amd64. Etch will not include an official amd64 DVD, although unofficial images will be available. Note that you will probably not sell a lot of ia64 discs, as this architecture is quite rare. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vendor
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 01:43:06PM +0100, Chris Unger|FOSU Media Service wrote: we are owner from a new Linux Onlinestore. the Shopname is Linux-Onlinestore.com http://www.linux-onlinestore.com OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distributing Debian CDs
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 10:26:03PM -0800, Pablo Angel wrote: I wish to distribute Debian CDs recorded from the Official CD iso images at my website Paguito.com. *Vendor Name : Paguito.com *URL of Vendor : http://www.paguito.com/ OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please can you add me to the CD vendors list
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:46:02AM -, Linux-Man.co.uk wrote: Please can you add me to the CD vendors list. I've completed the details requested below. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Vendor Name = Linux-Man DistrOS. URL of Vendor = www.linux-man.co.uk OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian vendor
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:56:27AM +0530, Customer Service wrote: We have been distributing Debian CD and DVD versions for all platforms such as x86, 64 bit, amd64, ia64 etc. Our listing on your site is little outdated. We ship internationally. Here are our updated details. Please update in your vendor list on your site. Thanks. OK, updated on the site! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-Reseller
Hallo Heiko, On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:48:22AM +0100, Heiko Haedicke wrote: - www.hh-cm.de / www.magic-price.de / www.lug-viersen.de we want to wait for your response to create the sites Auf den Seiten kann man im Moment keine Debian-CDs kaufen, deswegen werden sie nicht in die Liste aufgenommen. Außerdem nehmen wir nur einen URL auf (sowie einen URL für die Debian-spezifische Unterseite.) Bitte nochmal melden, sobald man im Shop wirklich was kaufen kann! Is it possible to use the Debain-Logo for some T-Shirts, Caps and so on? Yes, see http://www.debian.org/logos/ for details and restrictions. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Seller from Ukraine
Hi Sergey, On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:54:20PM +0200, sergey wrote: I represent Internet shop from Ukraine, and sell software. But i have some problem with selling Microsoft software, and now start selling Debian. Good choice! :-) I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. P.S. I found some miss in your site - you have Ukrainian (nativ) language support, but in this version of page sellers from Ukraine is absent. If possible - add sellers from my counry to the nativ page. If you need some help with translation to Ukranian - i can do it. It seems that that particular page has not been translated to Ukrainian yet. If you want to help with the translation of the website, have a look at http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating. In particular, note that you shouldn't just translate the HTML. Instead, you need to translate the source .wml file. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-Reseller
[Question about using Debian logo for merchandise] On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:17:53PM +0100, Heiko Haedicke wrote: Was die Shirt etc. angeht werden wir die Dinger natürlich verkaufen wollen und dem Projekt entsprechend seinen Anteil daran abtreten - bedeutet also das die Shirts mit Profitabsicht verkauft werden - dies würde dem was auf eurer Seite steht widerspricht. Soweit ich das sehe, könnt ihr das Open-Use-Logo ohne weiteres auf T-Shirts etc. drucken. Beim Official-Use-Logo geht das tatsächlich nicht. Tschüss, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New debian vendor in Poland
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:55:52PM +0100, Bart?omiej Jóskowski wrote: Our company would like to apply to be a debian vendor. Vendor: Mebs.pl URL: http://www.mebs.pl/ OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Sorry for the long delay! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian sellers list
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:49:08PM +0100, Daniel Gadawski wrote: Richard Atterer napisa?(a): Vendor name: Sklep www.linuxmarket.eu Vendor URL: http://www.linuxmarket.eu There's no shop or anything else on that site yet. Please contact us when you're actually up and running! OK, here it is: http://www.linuxmarket.eu/?p=productsMoreiProduct=6sName=Debian-3.1-(CD)-(24h) OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Sorry for the long delay! Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UK Supplier
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:58:12AM -0500, The Linux Store UK wrote: Vendor: The Linux Store UK URL: http://www.thelinuxstore.org.uk OK, I've just added your site to our list, the web page should be updated in a few hours. Sorry for the delay! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/¯| http://geht.net.gibts.bei.atterer.net ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jigdo list missing 3.1r4
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 05:18:42AM +0100, Matt Kraai wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:52:21PM +1300, Austin Green wrote: The page List of Debian .jigdo files at http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?list does not include the latest stable point release (3.1r4) I think someone from the debian-cd team will need to address this. I have manually restarted the cron job on atterer.net, and it's downloading the new .jigdo files as I write this. ATM, I can't figure out why it has stopped mirroring from cdimage.d.o, everything seems to work OK. :-/ Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Updating links for r5 CD images
Hi, can someone take care of updating the links under /CD once the new rev5 CD images are there? I will not be able to do it, as I will be completely cut off from the net for a few days, from tomorrow. Many thanks! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COMPACT is not a member of a group specified for any attribute
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:57:27AM +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
AFAIK this attribute compact wasn't ever widely supported by the
browsers,
IIRC Netscape 4.7 did interpret it - the most popular browser at the time.
and furthermore it's not Valid HTML 4.01 Strict and thus the page doesn't
validate[2].
I think the problem was only introduced when the site switched to HTML 4.01
Strict - the attribute is marked deprecated for Transitional.
It's been there ever since this page exists, but as long as nobody vetoes
I'll simpy remove it in the next days. Alternatively it could be replaced
by e.g. 'style=letter-spacing:whatever', but I see no reason why this
synopsis needs to be listed compactly ...
IMHO, just remove it! BTW, I use the following CSS for ul class=compact
on one of my sites:
ul.compact li { padding-bottom: 0ex; }
(For NS 4.7, the compact attribute removed the vertical spacing between
bullets, it did not affect the letter spacing.)
Cheers,
Richard
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Re: Adding new vendors to the CD vendors list
¡Hola Esteban! On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:02:47AM -0300, Esteban De La Fuente wrote: Hello, I send information for add me like a new vendor of Debian. Sorry about the long delay! I've just added your site to our list, the website should be updated within a few hours! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: new vendor to the CD vendors list
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 11:46:31AM +0100, LinuxCdStore.it wrote: We'd like to be added to the CD vendors page. Hi, I've just added your site to our list, the website should be updated within a few hours! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Vendor in Poland
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:37:45PM +0100, Debian - darmowe aukcje internetowe wrote: Our company would like to apply to be a debian vendor. Hi there, I've just added your site to our list, the website should be updated within a few hours! Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
