Re: automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-20 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva \(KoV\)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:13:28PM +0100, Jaime E . Villate wrote:
 This means you should make sure the pages you commit can be correctly
 processed by wml, before you commit them. To check them, you should install
 the most recent version of wml (2.0.6), then use make and see that the html
 pages are created and give the result you expected; you can then use make
 clean (never commit any of the html pages generated with make!).
you could do it just like me, I keep the following directories:
webwml/ build/ debian.org/
I use webwml to translate and use cvs, build to build the pages and
debian.org is the generated page, wich I linked to my /var/www 
cause I like to have access to the html pages while translating or
checking what to translate... that's an option...

 By the way, can I give you a hand with the Portuguese translation? I speak
 continental Portuguese so together we may come out with translations
 acceptable both in Brazil and Portugal, rather than having to branch out pt_br
 and pt_pt.
Hey Jaime, why don't you join us in the debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
mailing list? We have a project called Debian-BR, but that's just a name
as we have many portuguese people in it... you're of course welcome to help
us with the work we're doing =)

take a look at: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net

 Greetings,
 Jaime
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Re: automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:51:07AM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
  I have commited links.tags yesterday, in order to fix some problems with 
  the
  translation I work on (PT). However, as of today, the site still looks the
  same. How often are the HTMLs generated? (or are they manually generated? I
  don't suppose that). Do I have to do anything more than work on WML and
  commit?
 
  menubar.wml was missing a dependency on links.tags.

BTW that's my fault, sorry.

  It has been fixed and
  the file should update automatically in a few hours. Write again if it
  doesn't get updated.
 
 Ok, it has updated today. IIRC, the previous timestamp was Apr 16 16:46,
 so I assume there is a crontab that updates the pages every 2 days.

No, actually I didn't see the fix Jay said to have made, so I fixed it
myself, a bit later.

The crontab runs every six hours.

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Re: automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-19 Thread Jaime E . Villate
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:51:07AM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 Ok, it has updated today. IIRC, the previous timestamp was Apr 16 16:46, so I
 assume there is a crontab that updates the pages every 2 days.

Carlos has received a reply already, but I'll answer too, to make sure I
understand (I'm new to this, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

The pages are updated every six hours. But if the pages you committed had
errors, the wml process will not generate the new pages (that's why you didn't
see any changes in the pages you committed, even six hours after you did it).

This means you should make sure the pages you commit can be correctly
processed by wml, before you commit them. To check them, you should install
the most recent version of wml (2.0.6), then use make and see that the html
pages are created and give the result you expected; you can then use make
clean (never commit any of the html pages generated with make!).

By the way, can I give you a hand with the Portuguese translation? I speak
continental Portuguese so together we may come out with translations
acceptable both in Brazil and Portugal, rather than having to branch out pt_br
and pt_pt.

Greetings,
Jaime



Re: automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-19 Thread James A. Treacy
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:13:28PM +0100, Jaime E . Villate wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:51:07AM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
  Ok, it has updated today. IIRC, the previous timestamp was Apr 16 16:46, so 
  I
  assume there is a crontab that updates the pages every 2 days.
 
 Carlos has received a reply already, but I'll answer too, to make sure I
 understand (I'm new to this, so please correct me if I'm wrong).
 
 The pages are updated every six hours. But if the pages you committed had
 errors, the wml process will not generate the new pages (that's why you didn't
 see any changes in the pages you committed, even six hours after you did it).
 
While it is true that an error in a page will keep it from being updated,
that was not the problem in this case. The Debian pages use a number of
template files, which are nested (a includes b which includes c). In order
to make sure pages are updated properly the Makefiles are told what files
a particular file depends on. A new file was recently added and the
dependency information was not updated. Thus, when Carlos updated the
file, the page (html)  wasn't rebuilt.

 This means you should make sure the pages you commit can be correctly
 processed by wml, before you commit them. To check them, you should install
 the most recent version of wml (2.0.6), then use make and see that the html
 pages are created and give the result you expected; you can then use make
 clean (never commit any of the html pages generated with make!).
 
Everyone should definitely check pages before committing them.

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automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-18 Thread Carlos Laviola
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Hi,

I have commited links.tags yesterday, in order to fix some problems with the
translation I work on (PT). However, as of today, the site still looks the
same. How often are the HTMLs generated? (or are they manually generated? I
don't suppose that). Do I have to do anything more than work on WML and commit?

Thanks, Carlos.
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Re: automatic generation of html's - or not?

2001-04-18 Thread James A. Treacy
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:51:11PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 
 I have commited links.tags yesterday, in order to fix some problems with the
 translation I work on (PT). However, as of today, the site still looks the
 same. How often are the HTMLs generated? (or are they manually generated? I
 don't suppose that). Do I have to do anything more than work on WML and 
 commit?
 
menubar.wml was missing a dependency on links.tags. It has been fixed and
the file should update automatically in a few hours. Write again if it
doesn't get updated.
-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]