[branden@deadbeast.net: [picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]]

2000-12-08 Thread Seth Arnold
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Hi Branden,

I am trying to use xf86cfg for a long time but I allways receive the
same message: "Cannot open Cards database."

I am using the last package version (4.0.1-10).

What can I do?
What should I do? ;)

Tkx,

Reinaldo Picone


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Re: r128 driver still borked in XF4.0.1-9pre10

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer
Michael Flaig wrote:

> > > > > Does XF4 work on your Pismo now ?
> > > >
> > > > No, not the -8 packages. Waiting for new ones...
> > >
> > > Have you downloaded the xfree4 from deb
> > > http://people.debian.org/~branden/ woody/powerpc/
> > >
> > > they are now -10 ...
> >
> > Well, I would have if they were still there... The only file in the
> > powerpc directory is currently Packages.gz .
> 
> Strange... I can get them all ...

I just pointed the browser at http://people.debian.org/~branden/woody/powerpc/
again, only Packages.gz, no .debs ...


> > > the bug of -8 packages is fixed but now the packages hang my pismo which 
> > > > > > is my biggest problem at all.
> >
> > I have the same problem on my Pismo. That is, actually the screen isn't
> > black for me but has an interesting gradient which slowly changes it's
> > color and brightness :) The machine is dead as can be.
> >
> > The strange thing is: The same happens if I take the r128_drv.o from one
> > of my build trees, which work as a whole. So the problem doesn't seem to
> > be just in the driver.
> 
> Yes I will test it with an Kernel2.4 ... perhaps I'll find time to compile
> it this weekend. ...

r128_drv.o is the X driver module. My suspicion is that there is a problem in
another part of X. It is virtually impossible that this is a kernel problem
(I'm using 2.4.0-test11).


Michel


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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:30:15PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> >
> > > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is
> > > there a way to stop loading that?
> >
> > Have you worked on the PCI code now? On PPC it also works without PCI, and
> > I think it also loads that module, not sure though (I could ask on the
> > APUS lists if you'd like).
> I did not work on the pci code, I just changed it, like on ppc, to use the
> generic(?) linuxpci code (see debian/patches/500_*, I only added Mc68020 to
> the long list of non-i386 arches).

But something must be different because it doesn't segfault on PPC even if
there is no PCI at all.


> Please ask some APUS people, I know Ken Tyler is interested to get X4.0
> working on his PPC Amiga.

It's working fine on APUS (I made the glint driver work on our Permedia2
boards :), Ken is trying to get the s3virge driver going for his CV64/3D.


Michel


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Re: 24+8 bit color depth overlay for ATI 3D RagePro?

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer
Louis Tsui wrote:

> Is 24+8 bit color depth overlay supported for ATI 3D RagePro by XF 4.0.1?

Hardly. The only drivers I know support this are glint and mga.


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[branden@deadbeast.net: [picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]]

2000-12-08 Thread Seth Arnold

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Hi Branden,

I am trying to use xf86cfg for a long time but I allways receive the
same message: "Cannot open Cards database."

I am using the last package version (4.0.1-10).

What can I do?
What should I do? ;)

Tkx,

Reinaldo Picone


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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Karl Hammar

  About starting X from init.
  ---

This works:

  # tail -1 /etc/inittab
  t0:2:respawn:/root/bin/runx
  # cat /root/bin/runx
  #!/bin/sh

  /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 &
  pid=$!
  sleep 2
  export DISPLAY=:1
  set > /tmp/set.log
  /usr/bin/X11/xterm >& /tmp/x.log # or your X application
  kill $!  # or wait $!
  # grep PATH /tmp/set.log 
  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
  # pstree
  init-+-atd
...
   |-runx-+-XF86_SVGA
   |  `-xterm---bash
...

And init restarts X when your application finishes.
You have probably missed setting PATH to the right thing.

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From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start X during bootup as user
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:07:04 -0700

> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:51:07AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > > Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> > > way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> > > of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' 
> > > to
> > > the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.
> > 
> > Currently I'm trying it this way:
> > X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 
> > 
> > But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do 
> > you 
> > mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.
> 
> At least in the version of getty I have installed (in util-linux 2.10q-1),
> -l specifies an alternate to /bin/login:
> 
>getty  [-ihLmnw]  [-f  issue_file]  [-l login_program] [-I
>init] [-t  timeout]  [-H  login_host]  port  baud_rate,...
>[term]
> 
>   ...
> 
>-l login_program
>   Invoke   the  specified  login_program  instead  of
>   /bin/login.  This allows the use of a  non-standard
>   login  program  (for  example,  one that asks for a
>   dial-up password or that uses a different  password
>   file).
> 
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Re: r128 driver still borked in XF4.0.1-9pre10

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer

Michael Flaig wrote:

> > > > > Does XF4 work on your Pismo now ?
> > > >
> > > > No, not the -8 packages. Waiting for new ones...
> > >
> > > Have you downloaded the xfree4 from deb
> > > http://people.debian.org/~branden/ woody/powerpc/
> > >
> > > they are now -10 ...
> >
> > Well, I would have if they were still there... The only file in the
> > powerpc directory is currently Packages.gz .
> 
> Strange... I can get them all ...

I just pointed the browser at http://people.debian.org/~branden/woody/powerpc/
again, only Packages.gz, no .debs ...


> > > the bug of -8 packages is fixed but now the packages hang my pismo which > > > 
>is my biggest problem at all.
> >
> > I have the same problem on my Pismo. That is, actually the screen isn't
> > black for me but has an interesting gradient which slowly changes it's
> > color and brightness :) The machine is dead as can be.
> >
> > The strange thing is: The same happens if I take the r128_drv.o from one
> > of my build trees, which work as a whole. So the problem doesn't seem to
> > be just in the driver.
> 
> Yes I will test it with an Kernel2.4 ... perhaps I'll find time to compile
> it this weekend. ...

r128_drv.o is the X driver module. My suspicion is that there is a problem in
another part of X. It is virtually impossible that this is a kernel problem
(I'm using 2.4.0-test11).


Michel


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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer

"Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:30:15PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> >
> > > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is
> > > there a way to stop loading that?
> >
> > Have you worked on the PCI code now? On PPC it also works without PCI, and
> > I think it also loads that module, not sure though (I could ask on the
> > APUS lists if you'd like).
> I did not work on the pci code, I just changed it, like on ppc, to use the
> generic(?) linuxpci code (see debian/patches/500_*, I only added Mc68020 to
> the long list of non-i386 arches).

But something must be different because it doesn't segfault on PPC even if
there is no PCI at all.


> Please ask some APUS people, I know Ken Tyler is interested to get X4.0
> working on his PPC Amiga.

It's working fine on APUS (I made the glint driver work on our Permedia2
boards :), Ken is trying to get the s3virge driver going for his CV64/3D.


Michel


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Re: 24+8 bit color depth overlay for ATI 3D RagePro?

2000-12-08 Thread Michel Dänzer

Louis Tsui wrote:

> Is 24+8 bit color depth overlay supported for ATI 3D RagePro by XF 4.0.1?

Hardly. The only drivers I know support this are glint and mga.


Michel


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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Karl Hammar


  About starting X from init.
  ---

This works:

  # tail -1 /etc/inittab
  t0:2:respawn:/root/bin/runx
  # cat /root/bin/runx
  #!/bin/sh

  /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 &
  pid=$!
  sleep 2
  export DISPLAY=:1
  set > /tmp/set.log
  /usr/bin/X11/xterm >& /tmp/x.log # or your X application
  kill $!  # or wait $!
  # grep PATH /tmp/set.log 
  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
  # pstree
  init-+-atd
...
   |-runx-+-XF86_SVGA
   |  `-xterm---bash
...

And init restarts X when your application finishes.
You have probably missed setting PATH to the right thing.

Regards,
/Karl

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From: Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start X during bootup as user
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:07:04 -0700

> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:51:07AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > > Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> > > way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> > > of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
> > > the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.
> > 
> > Currently I'm trying it this way:
> > X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 
> > 
> > But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do you 
> > mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.
> 
> At least in the version of getty I have installed (in util-linux 2.10q-1),
> -l specifies an alternate to /bin/login:
> 
>getty  [-ihLmnw]  [-f  issue_file]  [-l login_program] [-I
>init] [-t  timeout]  [-H  login_host]  port  baud_rate,...
>[term]
> 
>   ...
> 
>-l login_program
>   Invoke   the  specified  login_program  instead  of
>   /bin/login.  This allows the use of a  non-standard
>   login  program  (for  example,  one that asks for a
>   dial-up password or that uses a different  password
>   file).
> 
> 
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Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:09:51PM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> # remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86
> rm /.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X
> rm: cannot remove 
> `/.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X': No such file or 
> directory
> make: *** [debian/stampdir/install] Error 1
> 
> This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built
> in the first place and therefore no symlink was created.

That's bad.

> I'm not sure why the server isn't being built; does this imply an error in a
> configuration file somewhere or does it mean that there is no upstream
> support for the arm architecture?

Possibly both.

> In particular, the fact that xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf does not mention
> Arm32Architecture at all seems somewhat suspicious...

Yes.

> I have a complete (3MB!) build log generated using script, so can look
> through it for anything if necessary.
>
> [Would I be better off asking this question of the debian-arm list?]

The actual porting will probably have to be done by someone familiar with
the ARM, but something could likely be cooked up fairly quickly, based on
the ARM patches for XFree86 3.x.

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building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-08 Thread Peter Maydell

Has anybody had any success in building xfree86 4 for debian/arm?
I tried building 4.0.1-10pre11v1 from the source packages at
people.debian.org/~branden/woody/

this successfully made it through the process of building binaries
and installing them into the debian/tmp directory, but then fell over
trying to remove a non-existent symlink:

# remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86
rm /.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X
rm: cannot remove `/.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X': 
No such file or directory
make: *** [debian/stampdir/install] Error 1

This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built
in the first place and therefore no symlink was created.

I'm not sure why the server isn't being built; does this imply an error in a
configuration file somewhere or does it mean that there is no upstream
support for the arm architecture?

In particular, the fact that xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf does not mention
Arm32Architecture at all seems somewhat suspicious...

I have a complete (3MB!) build log generated using script, so can look
through it for anything if necessary.

[Would I be better off asking this question of the debian-arm list?]

Peter Maydell



[stuart@apk.net: root-only access to X & my fix]

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson
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Branden,

I've been running woody, and X 4.0.whatever. :-)

We had a power event here last night that was a result of another event
last weekend. So, my desktop machine was shut down last weekend and last
night (Thursday the 7th).

I had no problems when I powered it up after last weekend. It was smooth
sailing all the way.

This morning, however, I ran into a problem where I could not run X as
anything but root. I tried a reinstall of most of the X pieces-parts
using apt-get install --reinstall

That didn't fix it.

I went looking through the docs and found reference to "Xwrapper." But
it seems that Debian has no Xwrapper. :-)

So, the suggested fix of changing the call of X to Xwrapper in xserverrc
didn't bring me joy.

What I wound up doing is changing /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config

I changed the line that said allowed_users=rootonly to be
allowed_user=console


That seems to have done the trick and I am working away in X now.
Hurray!


I can't pinpoint anything, but it would seem that something broke
between 12-1 and 12-7. 

Hope this helps you or someone. :-)


Regards,


Stu

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[picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Reinaldo Picone Barbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xf86cfg problems
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 13:04:37 -0200
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Hi Branden,

I am trying to use xf86cfg for a long time but I allways receive the
same message: "Cannot open Cards database."

I am using the last package version (4.0.1-10).

What can I do?
What should I do? ;)

Tkx,

Reinaldo Picone


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xlibs package install error

2000-12-08 Thread John Reid
hi all,

FYI, the xlibs package produces the following error on my system (woody)


Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-7 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-10_i386.deb)
...
Unpacking replacement xlibs ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-10_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in
package xcolorsel
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

this is a new problem, occuring since v4.0.1-9 (maybe -8, not sure). 
the package causing the conflict is not constant, as i have received the
same error mentioning groff, xscreensaver and i think another package as
well

btw, thanks branden for a great job!  i'd like to assist, but i would be
worse than useless, given the level of my skills!

cheers,
john



Read more carefully; mine is the opposite problem.

2000-12-08 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:50:13PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote:
>
> Please excuse this noise, but whatever the hell happened with searching a
> particular mailing list archive before angering everyone on it with a
> question that's been answered at least 10 times in the same week?!!
> 
> I'm referring to the whole "user not authorized to run the X server"
> issue...

I have been following this mailing list fairly well for a while, but in
case I missed something, I just checked the archive.

Yes, I suffered from the user authorization problem too, but now I have the
OPPOSITE problem.  My message indicated that now startx and xinit are the
ones that WORK for me and that now xdm and gdm are the ones that DON'T
WORK.

I hope that I haven't angered anyone; I merely posted a message that I
thought (and still think) has not been answered.

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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:51:07AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> > way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> > of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
> > the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.
> 
> Currently I'm trying it this way:
> X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 
> 
> But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do you 
> mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.

At least in the version of getty I have installed (in util-linux 2.10q-1),
-l specifies an alternate to /bin/login:

   getty  [-ihLmnw]  [-f  issue_file]  [-l login_program] [-I
   init] [-t  timeout]  [-H  login_host]  port  baud_rate,...
   [term]

...

   -l login_program
  Invoke   the  specified  login_program  instead  of
  /bin/login.  This allows the use of a  non-standard
  login  program  (for  example,  one that asks for a
  dial-up password or that uses a different  password
  file).


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Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:09:51PM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> # remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86
> rm /.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X
> rm: cannot remove `/.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X': No 
>such file or directory
> make: *** [debian/stampdir/install] Error 1
> 
> This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built
> in the first place and therefore no symlink was created.

That's bad.

> I'm not sure why the server isn't being built; does this imply an error in a
> configuration file somewhere or does it mean that there is no upstream
> support for the arm architecture?

Possibly both.

> In particular, the fact that xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf does not mention
> Arm32Architecture at all seems somewhat suspicious...

Yes.

> I have a complete (3MB!) build log generated using script, so can look
> through it for anything if necessary.
>
> [Would I be better off asking this question of the debian-arm list?]

The actual porting will probably have to be done by someone familiar with
the ARM, but something could likely be cooked up fairly quickly, based on
the ARM patches for XFree86 3.x.

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building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-08 Thread Peter Maydell


Has anybody had any success in building xfree86 4 for debian/arm?
I tried building 4.0.1-10pre11v1 from the source packages at
people.debian.org/~branden/woody/

this successfully made it through the process of building binaries
and installing them into the debian/tmp directory, but then fell over
trying to remove a non-existent symlink:

# remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86
rm /.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X
rm: cannot remove `/.1/usr/local/src/xfree86-4.0.1/debian/tmp/usr/X11R6/bin/X': No 
such file or directory
make: *** [debian/stampdir/install] Error 1

This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built
in the first place and therefore no symlink was created.

I'm not sure why the server isn't being built; does this imply an error in a
configuration file somewhere or does it mean that there is no upstream
support for the arm architecture?

In particular, the fact that xc/config/cf/xfree86.cf does not mention
Arm32Architecture at all seems somewhat suspicious...

I have a complete (3MB!) build log generated using script, so can look
through it for anything if necessary.

[Would I be better off asking this question of the debian-arm list?]

Peter Maydell


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RANT: reading mailing list archives

2000-12-08 Thread Charl P. Botha
Please excuse this noise, but whatever the hell happened with searching a
particular mailing list archive before angering everyone on it with a
question that's been answered at least 10 times in the same week?!!

I'm referring to the whole "user not authorized to run the X server" issue...

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gdm and xdm just stopped working

2000-12-08 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

After running dselect this morning, I noticed that gdm would fail to start
the X server.  So I installed xdm instead, and it has the same problem.
xinit and startx still work.

--begin /var/log/xdm.log--
X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
xdm error (pid 756): server unexpectedly died
xdm error (pid 756): Server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled
-- end  /var/log/xdm.log--

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[stuart@apk.net: root-only access to X & my fix]

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson

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From: Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: root-only access to X & my fix
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:12:21 -0500
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Branden,

I've been running woody, and X 4.0.whatever. :-)

We had a power event here last night that was a result of another event
last weekend. So, my desktop machine was shut down last weekend and last
night (Thursday the 7th).

I had no problems when I powered it up after last weekend. It was smooth
sailing all the way.

This morning, however, I ran into a problem where I could not run X as
anything but root. I tried a reinstall of most of the X pieces-parts
using apt-get install --reinstall

That didn't fix it.

I went looking through the docs and found reference to "Xwrapper." But
it seems that Debian has no Xwrapper. :-)

So, the suggested fix of changing the call of X to Xwrapper in xserverrc
didn't bring me joy.

What I wound up doing is changing /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config

I changed the line that said allowed_users=rootonly to be
allowed_user=console


That seems to have done the trick and I am working away in X now.
Hurray!


I can't pinpoint anything, but it would seem that something broke
between 12-1 and 12-7. 

Hope this helps you or someone. :-)


Regards,


Stu

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[picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson

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From: Reinaldo Picone Barbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xf86cfg problems
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 13:04:37 -0200
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Hi Branden,

I am trying to use xf86cfg for a long time but I allways receive the
same message: "Cannot open Cards database."

I am using the last package version (4.0.1-10).

What can I do?
What should I do? ;)

Tkx,

Reinaldo Picone


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xlibs package install error

2000-12-08 Thread John Reid

hi all,

FYI, the xlibs package produces the following error on my system (woody)


Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-7 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-10_i386.deb)
...
Unpacking replacement xlibs ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-10_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in
package xcolorsel
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

this is a new problem, occuring since v4.0.1-9 (maybe -8, not sure). 
the package causing the conflict is not constant, as i have received the
same error mentioning groff, xscreensaver and i think another package as
well

btw, thanks branden for a great job!  i'd like to assist, but i would be
worse than useless, given the level of my skills!

cheers,
john


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woody packages on potato systems (was: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01)

2000-12-08 Thread Johannes Beigel
Hm. I have a woody system, so that's not really important for me, but..

Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato,
> please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato.

Shouldn't all Debian-Packages work always as long as their dependencies
are fulfilled? (At least any Debian System should be upgradeable with a
simple "apt-get dist-upgrade" from the previous version. Or am I wrong
in this point!?)

> If things break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for
> potato. If it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be
> expected.

My opinion is: If it breaks, the dependencies where not correct.

If it's really as Seth says, it would mean that it's impossible (or pure
luck) to use a mixture of a stable/unstable Debian system. I used to do
this for a long time with slink/potato, however. Sometimes there were
problems because Debian unstable is unstable. But usually all those
difficulties were fixed after a few days by doing a fresh "apt-get
install".

[The price to install a woody-XF4.0.1 on a potato is machine is at least
a new libc6, of course. So if you don't want to upgrade libc6, you
should definitely use Charl P. Botha's potato packages.]

jojo

P.S.: Maybe this should be discussed on debian-devel!?

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Read more carefully; mine is the opposite problem.

2000-12-08 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:50:13PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote:
>
> Please excuse this noise, but whatever the hell happened with searching a
> particular mailing list archive before angering everyone on it with a
> question that's been answered at least 10 times in the same week?!!
> 
> I'm referring to the whole "user not authorized to run the X server"
> issue...

I have been following this mailing list fairly well for a while, but in
case I missed something, I just checked the archive.

Yes, I suffered from the user authorization problem too, but now I have the
OPPOSITE problem.  My message indicated that now startx and xinit are the
ones that WORK for me and that now xdm and gdm are the ones that DON'T
WORK.

I hope that I haven't angered anyone; I merely posted a message that I
thought (and still think) has not been answered.

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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:51:07AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> > way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> > of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
> > the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.
> 
> Currently I'm trying it this way:
> X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 
> 
> But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do you 
> mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.

At least in the version of getty I have installed (in util-linux 2.10q-1),
-l specifies an alternate to /bin/login:

   getty  [-ihLmnw]  [-f  issue_file]  [-l login_program] [-I
   init] [-t  timeout]  [-H  login_host]  port  baud_rate,...
   [term]

...

   -l login_program
  Invoke   the  specified  login_program  instead  of
  /bin/login.  This allows the use of a  non-standard
  login  program  (for  example,  one that asks for a
  dial-up password or that uses a different  password
  file).


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Re: authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-08 Thread Kyle Sallee
Ah, now I understand.  /etc/Xserver is no longer used.
I edited /etc/Xwrapper.config and put allowed_users=console
as the first line and my startx problems disappeared.
I'm just reiterating it to make it easier to find for 
everyone else with startx unauthorized user problem.


On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:13:04PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
> > Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
> > effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
> > sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
> > self-documenting config files are nice :).
> 
> No, because it would make my parser too complicated.
> 
> I will, however, write a manpage for the file when I get around to it.



RANT: reading mailing list archives

2000-12-08 Thread Charl P. Botha

Please excuse this noise, but whatever the hell happened with searching a
particular mailing list archive before angering everyone on it with a
question that's been answered at least 10 times in the same week?!!

I'm referring to the whole "user not authorized to run the X server" issue...

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gdm and xdm just stopped working

2000-12-08 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan


After running dselect this morning, I noticed that gdm would fail to start
the X server.  So I installed xdm instead, and it has the same problem.
xinit and startx still work.

--begin /var/log/xdm.log--
X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
xdm error (pid 756): server unexpectedly died
xdm error (pid 756): Server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled
-- end  /var/log/xdm.log--

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woody packages on potato systems (was: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01)

2000-12-08 Thread Johannes Beigel

Hm. I have a woody system, so that's not really important for me, but..

Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato,
> please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato.

Shouldn't all Debian-Packages work always as long as their dependencies
are fulfilled? (At least any Debian System should be upgradeable with a
simple "apt-get dist-upgrade" from the previous version. Or am I wrong
in this point!?)

> If things break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for
> potato. If it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be
> expected.

My opinion is: If it breaks, the dependencies where not correct.

If it's really as Seth says, it would mean that it's impossible (or pure
luck) to use a mixture of a stable/unstable Debian system. I used to do
this for a long time with slink/potato, however. Sometimes there were
problems because Debian unstable is unstable. But usually all those
difficulties were fixed after a few days by doing a fresh "apt-get
install".

[The price to install a woody-XF4.0.1 on a potato is machine is at least
a new libc6, of course. So if you don't want to upgrade libc6, you
should definitely use Charl P. Botha's potato packages.]

jojo

P.S.: Maybe this should be discussed on debian-devel!?

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Re: authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-08 Thread Kyle Sallee

Ah, now I understand.  /etc/Xserver is no longer used.
I edited /etc/Xwrapper.config and put allowed_users=console
as the first line and my startx problems disappeared.
I'm just reiterating it to make it easier to find for 
everyone else with startx unauthorized user problem.


On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:13:04PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
> > Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the
> > effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't
> > sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but
> > self-documenting config files are nice :).
> 
> No, because it would make my parser too complicated.
> 
> I will, however, write a manpage for the file when I get around to it.


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XFree86 4.0.1 on PowerPC status report

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Bad news.

4.0.1h is broken on PowerPC because a clever trick was being played with
va_lists that happens not to be portable to PowerPC.

Once I have a patch I'll apply it and all will be cool again.

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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:30:15PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> "Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> 
> > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
> > way to stop loading that?
> 
> Have you worked on the PCI code now? On PPC it also works without PCI, and I
> think it also loads that module, not sure though (I could ask on the APUS
> lists if you'd like).
I did not work on the pci code, I just changed it, like on ppc, to use the
generic(?) linuxpci code (see debian/patches/500_*, I only added Mc68020 to
the long list of non-i386 arches). Please ask some APUS people, I know Ken
Tyler is interested to get X4.0 working on his PPC Amiga.

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XFree86 4.0.1 on PowerPC status report

2000-12-08 Thread Branden Robinson

Bad news.

4.0.1h is broken on PowerPC because a clever trick was being played with
va_lists that happens not to be portable to PowerPC.

Once I have a patch I'll apply it and all will be cool again.

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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> 
> Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2.  There's no point wasting
> your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug fixes.
Its running already... no problem. When will the new source be out? I am
kind of "away", today is officially my last day at the university...
 
> > One problem I see right now, I have no libgl1?
> 
> Hrm.  I guess the Mesa build crashed?
No, right, installed mesa (from that build) and everything was fine.

> > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
> > way to stop loading that?
> 
> Bummer.  This is probably an upstream bug.  Is there such a thing as an
> m68k box with a PCI bus?
Not sure, there might be, maybe some macs? There is supposed to be some new
add-on hardware for Amigas which give you PCI slots, but I think none of the
"mainstream" m68k machines have PCI.

I moved away that module, guess what happens? X crashed, because it does not
find that module... so it seems pci must be fixed for m68k.

For the debian-68k people, I've put the debs on:
  http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/
maybe somebody has more luck running these, maybe they are a starting point
for further patches to X for somebody. (note: you will need some packages
from woody/binary-all to get these installed, you will find out which. It
should work on a potato box, thats what I used for compiling/testing).

Christian



Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
> the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.

Currently I'm trying it this way:
X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 

But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do you 
mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.

Thanks,
-Cajus



Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:26:47AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:22 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> > >
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > while true; do
> > >   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> > > done
> >
> > Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
> > log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
> > case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
> > problems. ;)
> 
> Well - this if for a kind of kiosk system. The user will run into a prog 
> where he/she will only be able to press the finger on the screen.
> The Touchscreen is the only device connected to this box, so logging
> in makes no sense here.

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.

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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:22 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > while true; do
> >   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> > done
>
> Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
> log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
> case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
> problems. ;)

Well - this if for a kind of kiosk system. The user will run into a prog 
where he/she will only be able to press the finger on the screen.
The Touchscreen is the only device connected to this box, so logging
in makes no sense here.

-Cajus



Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> while true; do
>   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> done 

Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
problems. ;)

Personally, I prefer not running xdm, and just doing startx when I need to.
That way it's easy for me to change bitdepths or whatever.  That is, of
course, a personal preference, but there's much cleaner ways to keep your
system in X at all times anyway.

> Starting this manually as root works as expected. While booting I get:
>   X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
>   var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
>   var: nice_value, value: -10.
> 
> Changing from rootonly to anybody makes no difference.
> Ok - that's no login shell from there, but...

It probably has to do with the fact that you're not starting it up from a
terminal or something.  But, again, it's a bad idea to do that anyway.
Just use xdm or gdm or the like if it's that important that your system be
in X at all times...

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How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Hi!

I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:

#!/bin/bash
while true; do
  su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
done 

Starting this manually as root works as expected. While booting I get:
  X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
  var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
  var: nice_value, value: -10.

Changing from rootonly to anybody makes no difference.
Ok - that's no login shell from there, but...

Thanks in advance,
-Cajus



24+8 bit color depth overlay for ATI 3D RagePro?

2000-12-08 Thread Louis Tsui
Hi,

Is 24+8 bit color depth overlay supported for ATI 3D RagePro by XF 4.0.1? 
Thank you.

Louis



Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Christian T. Steigies

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:30:15PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> "Christian T. Steigies" wrote:
> 
> > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
> > way to stop loading that?
> 
> Have you worked on the PCI code now? On PPC it also works without PCI, and I
> think it also loads that module, not sure though (I could ask on the APUS
> lists if you'd like).
I did not work on the pci code, I just changed it, like on ppc, to use the
generic(?) linuxpci code (see debian/patches/500_*, I only added Mc68020 to
the long list of non-i386 arches). Please ask some APUS people, I know Ken
Tyler is interested to get X4.0 working on his PPC Amiga.

Christian
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Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-08 Thread Christian T. Steigies

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> 
> Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2.  There's no point wasting
> your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug fixes.
Its running already... no problem. When will the new source be out? I am
kind of "away", today is officially my last day at the university...
 
> > One problem I see right now, I have no libgl1?
> 
> Hrm.  I guess the Mesa build crashed?
No, right, installed mesa (from that build) and everything was fine.

> > I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a
> > way to stop loading that?
> 
> Bummer.  This is probably an upstream bug.  Is there such a thing as an
> m68k box with a PCI bus?
Not sure, there might be, maybe some macs? There is supposed to be some new
add-on hardware for Amigas which give you PCI slots, but I think none of the
"mainstream" m68k machines have PCI.

I moved away that module, guess what happens? X crashed, because it does not
find that module... so it seems pci must be fixed for m68k.

For the debian-68k people, I've put the debs on:
  http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/
maybe somebody has more luck running these, maybe they are a starting point
for further patches to X for somebody. (note: you will need some packages
from woody/binary-all to get these installed, you will find out which. It
should work on a potato box, thats what I used for compiling/testing).

Christian


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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Cajus Pollmeier

Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
> way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
> of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
> the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.

Currently I'm trying it this way:
X:2:respawn:/etc/init.d/kiosk 

But it doesn't work the way as expected - same error than before. What do you 
mean with "-l "? I can't find any options starting with "-l" for getty.

Thanks,
-Cajus


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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:26:47AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:22 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> > >
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > while true; do
> > >   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> > > done
> >
> > Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
> > log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
> > case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
> > problems. ;)
> 
> Well - this if for a kind of kiosk system. The user will run into a prog 
> where he/she will only be able to press the finger on the screen.
> The Touchscreen is the only device connected to this box, so logging
> in makes no sense here.

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  The shellscript is probably the easiest
way in that case.  Try starting up a getty using your shellscript instead
of /bin/login; I believe you'd want to add '-l /path/to/the/shellscript' to
the end of one of your getty lines in your /etc/inittab.

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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Cajus Pollmeier

Am Friday 08 December 2000 09:22 schrieb Joshua Shagam:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > while true; do
> >   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> > done
>
> Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
> log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
> case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
> problems. ;)

Well - this if for a kind of kiosk system. The user will run into a prog 
where he/she will only be able to press the finger on the screen.
The Touchscreen is the only device connected to this box, so logging
in makes no sense here.

-Cajus


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Re: How to start X during bootup as user

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua Shagam

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm trying to run X from an init script during boot up like this:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> while true; do
>   su - kiosk -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> done 

Why are you doing this?  Why not run xdm?  It's not THAT time-consuming to
log in when you need the computer.  Unless you run Enlightenment, in which
case the amount of time it takes you to log in is the least of your
problems. ;)

Personally, I prefer not running xdm, and just doing startx when I need to.
That way it's easy for me to change bitdepths or whatever.  That is, of
course, a personal preference, but there's much cleaner ways to keep your
system in X at all times anyway.

> Starting this manually as root works as expected. While booting I get:
>   X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
>   var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
>   var: nice_value, value: -10.
> 
> Changing from rootonly to anybody makes no difference.
> Ok - that's no login shell from there, but...

It probably has to do with the fact that you're not starting it up from a
terminal or something.  But, again, it's a bad idea to do that anyway.
Just use xdm or gdm or the like if it's that important that your system be
in X at all times...

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