Re: Please re-build and upload xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7

2004-09-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:


 Hi porters,
   a few days back xfree86 has been uploaded with urgency=high since
 it fixes a bunch of RC bugs.

 On both s390 and mips the build failed due to lack of disk space. Please
 take appropriate actions to complete the build and upload asap.

 We need to get -7 asap into sarge.

 Thanks
 Fabio


Hi guys,
thanks for attempting another build of X on s390, but the
situation didn't change. I am pretty sure that the buildd is still lacking
disk space.

The main difference from -6 and -7 is that the fonts are not builded
anymore and the process goes much further compared to the previous builds
of X.

If error reported in the log was the real error, that would have shown on
all the others archs as well.

Can anybody try to build it manually (like it was done in past iirc) or
tell us if that error is real?

Thanks
Fabio

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X Strike Force XFree86 SVN commit: r1808 - in trunk/debian: . local

2004-09-13 Thread X Strike Force SVN Repository Admin
Author: branden
Date: 2004-09-12 23:47:14 -0500 (Sun, 12 Sep 2004)
New Revision: 1808

Modified:
   trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
   trunk/debian/changelog
   trunk/debian/local/Xsession
Log:
In the Xsession script, attempt to create a file of non-zero length in
/tmp; a full filesystem can cause mysterious X session failures.

Update Vim modeline.


Modified: trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
===
--- trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-12 23:04:28 UTC (rev 1807)
+++ trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-13 04:47:14 UTC (rev 1808)
@@ -11,4 +11,8 @@
 Update Danish debconf template translations (thanks, Claus Hindsgaul)
 1806
 
+In the Xsession script, attempt to create a file of non-zero length in
+/tmp; a full filesystem can cause mysterious X session failures.
+1808
+
 vim:set ai et sts=4 sw=4 tw=80:

Modified: trunk/debian/changelog
===
--- trunk/debian/changelog  2004-09-12 23:04:28 UTC (rev 1807)
+++ trunk/debian/changelog  2004-09-13 04:47:14 UTC (rev 1808)
@@ -5,8 +5,13 @@
   * Update Danish debconf template translations (thanks, Claus Hindsgaul).
 (Closes: #270503)
 
- -- Fabio M. Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:29:56 +0200
+  Changes by Branden Robinson:
 
+  * In the Xsession script, attempt to create a file of non-zero length in
+/tmp; a full filesystem can cause mysterious X session failures.
+
+ -- Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:45:07 -0500
+
 xfree86 (4.3.0.dfsg.1-7) unstable; urgency=high
 
   Changes by Branden Robinson:

Modified: trunk/debian/local/Xsession
===
--- trunk/debian/local/Xsession 2004-09-12 23:04:28 UTC (rev 1807)
+++ trunk/debian/local/Xsession 2004-09-13 04:47:14 UTC (rev 1808)
@@ -100,6 +100,18 @@
   errormsg no \$SYSSESSIONDIR\ directory found; aborting.
 fi
 
+# Attempt to create a file of non-zero length in /tmp; a full filesystem can
+# cause mysterious X session failures.  We do not use touch, :, or test -w
+# because they won't actually create a file with contents.  We also let 
standard
+# error from tempfile and echo go to the error file to aid the user in
+# determining what went wrong.
+WRITE_TEST=$(tempfile)
+if ! echo * $WRITE_TEST; then
+  message warning: unable to write to ${WRITE_TEST%/*}; X session may exit \
+  with an error
+fi
+rm -f $WRITE_TEST
+
 # use run-parts to source every file in the session directory; we source
 # instead of executing so that the variables and functions defined above
 # are available to the scripts, and so that they can pass variables to each
@@ -113,4 +125,4 @@
 
 exit 0
 
-# vim:ai:et:sts=2:sw=2:tw=80:
+# vim:set ai et sts=2 sw=2 tw=80:



X Strike Force XFree86 SVN commit: r1809 - trunk/debian

2004-09-13 Thread X Strike Force SVN Repository Admin
Author: fabbione
Date: 2004-09-13 01:18:48 -0500 (Mon, 13 Sep 2004)
New Revision: 1809

Modified:
   trunk/debian/TODO
Log:
Add item.


Modified: trunk/debian/TODO
===
--- trunk/debian/TODO   2004-09-13 04:47:14 UTC (rev 1808)
+++ trunk/debian/TODO   2004-09-13 06:18:48 UTC (rev 1809)
@@ -17,6 +17,9 @@
 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8
 --
 
+* Fix for the nv driver breakage, consider backporting the driver from
+  x.org.
+  See: #269025, #268759, #271235, #270228, #271071
 * Add FAQ entry describing what has become of the XFree86 3.x packages.
 * Rewrite xserver-xfree86 debconfage.  Joey Hess, Eduard Bloch, and David
   Nusinow have provided good input.



X Strike Force XFree86 SVN commit: r1810 - branches/debconf-overhaul/debian

2004-09-13 Thread X Strike Force SVN Repository Admin
Author: fabbione
Date: 2004-09-13 01:28:59 -0500 (Mon, 13 Sep 2004)
New Revision: 1810

Modified:
   branches/debconf-overhaul/debian/xserver-xfree86.config.in
Log:
Make fb_type detection more flexible.
Test case reported: fb_type=OFfb NVDA,NVMac would set the use of fb to true.
Hardware: ppc with nvidia gfx.


Modified: branches/debconf-overhaul/debian/xserver-xfree86.config.in
===
--- branches/debconf-overhaul/debian/xserver-xfree86.config.in  2004-09-13 
06:18:48 UTC (rev 1809)
+++ branches/debconf-overhaul/debian/xserver-xfree86.config.in  2004-09-13 
06:28:59 UTC (rev 1810)
@@ -953,16 +953,13 @@
   # did we actually get back anything?
   if [ -n $fb_type ]; then
 set_db_priority medium
-case $fb_type in
-  OFfb|VESA)
-trace $func(): this framebuffer type does not support UseFBDev
-default_use_fbdev=false
-;;
-  *)
-# other framebuffers do support UseFBDev
-default_use_fbdev=true
-;;
-esac
+if echo $fb_type | grep -Eiq '(OFfb|VESA)'; then
+  trace $func(): this framebuffer type does not support UseFBDev
+  default_use_fbdev=false
+else 
+  # other framebuffers do support UseFBDev
+  default_use_fbdev=true
+fi
   fi
 else
   trace $func(): /proc/fb does not exist; assuming fbcon not in use



Bug#271235: xserver-xfree86: [nv] XVideo fails silently (but visually) in mplayer

2004-09-13 Thread Andrei Badea
I'm experiencing this bug too with the same xserver-xfree86 version 
(4.3.0.dfsg.1-7) on the same configuration (NVidia GeForce2 MX400, nv 
driver which comes with XFree86).


MPlayer doesn't show the video and tvtime (which also uses the XVideo 
extension) misbehaves too. The image shows, but it doesn't redraw areas 
previously covered by other windows and in full screen mode only a part 
of the image is displayed).


There are no error messages in the XFree86 log, nor MPlayer nor tvtime 
display any.




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Re: [XFree86] Re: x(dm) freezes at first start

2004-09-13 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 12/09/2004 Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 14:21 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: 
  at boot, when xdm is started, x freezes directly after the login screen
  is displayed. sometimes it's possible to type in the login name, but at
  the latest at typing the password, the complete screen freezes.
 
 FWIW, I used to see something similar with gdm and kdm a while back, and
 it was a VT allocation race between the X server and the gettys. IIRC
 the X server would attach to VT 2 but display on VT 7, so it would never
 get the input. AFAIR the mouse cursor worked though, is that the case
 for you?

exactly, the mouse cursor still works, only keyboard seems to be broken.
after hitting alt+sysrq+k, the screen get's messed up, then i
change to tty1, this vc gets messed up completely, i type
'/etc/init.d/xdm stop', and the messed up screen becomes somehow reset.

bye
 jonas



Re: Please re-build and upload xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7

2004-09-13 Thread Gerhard Tonn

Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:



Hi guys,
thanks for attempting another build of X on s390, but the
situation didn't change. I am pretty sure that the buildd is still lacking
disk space.

The main difference from -6 and -7 is that the fonts are not builded
anymore and the process goes much further compared to the previous builds
of X.

If error reported in the log was the real error, that would have shown on
all the others archs as well.

Can anybody try to build it manually (like it was done in past iirc) or
tell us if that error is real?



I am getting the same error when building it manually. The doc directory 
doesn't exist.


Gerhard



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Bug#271499: xfonts-base-transcoded: fontconfig error Cannot load default config file during configuration

2004-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Package: xfonts-base-transcoded
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4
Severity: normal

I installed x-window-system-core and all the xfonts-*-transcoded
packages via one single apt-get install command.  During the configuration
of the xfonts-*-transcoded packages (I'm not really sure if it were exactly
these packages.), I got the following error message:

Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file

Obviously, fontconfig wasn't configured yet.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i586)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.18-bf2.4
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Versions of packages xfonts-base-transcoded depends on:
ii  xutils4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System utility programs

-- no debconf information



Bug#261993: Probably X bug

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
[The following is a form letter.]

Dear bug submitter,

Since the XFree86 X server is a large and complex piece of software, some
more information is required of you before this bug can be handled.  Please
run the following commands from a shell prompt to gather and deliver this
information to us:

$ /usr/share/bug/xserver-xfree86  /tmp/output 31
$ mailx -s Re: Bug#261993 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /tmp/output

If you do not have a mailx command on your system, you can get it by
installing the mailx Debian package; for example, with the aptitude
install mailx or apt-get install mailx commands as root.  Alternatively,
you can also use a mail command that is compatible with mailx's
command-line syntax, such as mutt.

One very good way to file bugs with the Debian Bug Tracking System is to
use the reportbug package and command of the same name.  The reportbug
program does a lot of automatic information-gathering that helps package
maintainers to understand your system configuration, and also ensures that
your message to the Debian Bug Tracking System is well-formed so that it is
processed correctly by the automated tools that manage the reports.  (If
you've ever gotten a bounce message from the Debian Bug Tracking System
that tells you your message couldn't be processed, you might appreciate
this latter feature.)

Therefore, I strongly urge you to give reportbug a try as your primary
bug reporting tool for the Debian System in the future.

If you *did* use reportbug to file your report, then you're receiving this
message because the information we expected to see was not present.

If you deliberately deleted this information from the report, please don't
do that in the future, even if it seems like it makes the mail too large.
50 kB (kilobytes) of configuration and log data is typical.  Only if the
included information greatly exceeds this amount (more than 100 kB) should
you consider omitting it; instead, put it up on the World Wide Web
somewhere and provide URLs to it in your report, or in subsequent followup
by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thank you!

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Processed: severity of 264016 is wishlist, merging 264016 264017

2004-09-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 severity 264016 wishlist
Bug#264016: fvwm: FvwmForm uses bad fonts in utf-8 locale
Severity set to `wishlist'.

  # let's not swipe the ball away like Lucy when Charlie Manoj Brown tries to 
 kick it
 merge 264016 264017
Bug#264016: fvwm: FvwmForm uses bad fonts in utf-8 locale
Bug#264017: xfonts-base: don't hard-code iso8859-1 in short aliases, eg fixed
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Bug#263952: Pointers and Scale are invisible on secondary XINERAMA screens

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 12:19:42PM +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
[...]
 No problem to provide more info. Unfortunately, I'm currently in my
 holidays and don't have physical access to the machine. However, I can
 tell you about the config.
[...]
 That needs physical access, so I can do that somewhen at/after upcoming
 monday.
[...]
 That's it for now. I'll do the real tests most probably on monday.

Any progress on this?

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Bug#263952: Pointers and Scale are invisible on secondary XINERAMA screens

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:46:31PM -0400, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 Actually, I'd expect a driver rendering bug to be captured in the
 framebuffer and consequently on screen captures. If the bug lies in the
 server, I don't think you can tell where exactly from the client side.

Ah.  Thanks (as usual :) ) for correcting my busted notion of how the X
server draws things.  :)

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Bug#229850: DEFAULT_HORIZ_SYNC and DEFAULT_VERT_REFRESH still ignored (updated patch)

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:38:16AM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
 
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 08:57:50PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
 I truly hope you will consider including this simple patch in time for
 sarge.  I think it will really improve the way people's X displays
 will look and help to make Debian a better distribution. :-)
 
I decided a long time ago to include it; please see the TODO
file for the XFree86 package and its Subversion history.
 
http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/TODO
 
 Thanks for the information and the pointer.  Do you think 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
 will be in sarge?  Feel free to not answer if you think it's a stupid
 question. ;-)  (I'm following traffic on debian-devel and debian-release,
 so I know about the autobuilder issues, moving freeze date, etc.)

The X Strike Force, including Fabio Massimo Di Nitto (our XFree86 package
release manager) and myself are trying to see to it that 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8
makes it into sarge.

Some changes for -7 were deferred to -8 due to the massive number of
changes in -7.

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Processed: Re: [ati/atimisc] DoS attack possible when viewing absurdly huge fonts on Mach64 GT rev 65

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 tag 149631 + unreproducible
Bug#149631: xserver-xfree86: [ati/atimisc] DoS attack possible when viewing 
absurdly huge fonts on Mach64 GT rev 65
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X Strike Force XFree86 SVN commit: r1811 - in trunk/debian: . scripts

2004-09-13 Thread X Strike Force SVN Repository Admin
Author: branden
Date: 2004-09-13 13:58:32 -0500 (Mon, 13 Sep 2004)
New Revision: 1811

Modified:
   trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
   trunk/debian/scripts/locale-munger
Log:
(cosmetic) Fix typo in debugging message.


Modified: trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
===
--- trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-13 06:28:59 UTC (rev 1810)
+++ trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-13 18:58:32 UTC (rev 1811)
@@ -8,6 +8,9 @@
 (It should always be safe to merge the latest version of TODO or CHANGESETS
 files anywhere.)
 
+Miscellaneous cosmetic fixes.
+1811
+
 Update Danish debconf template translations (thanks, Claus Hindsgaul)
 1806
 

Modified: trunk/debian/scripts/locale-munger
===
--- trunk/debian/scripts/locale-munger  2004-09-13 06:28:59 UTC (rev 1810)
+++ trunk/debian/scripts/locale-munger  2004-09-13 18:58:32 UTC (rev 1811)
@@ -221,7 +221,7 @@
 print ERROR: X11 does not support glibc locale %s % (locale,)
 else:
 if RUNTIME_DEBUG:
-print GOOD NEWS: X111 supports glibc locale %s % (locale,)
+print GOOD NEWS: X11 supports glibc locale %s % (locale,)
 
 # Now see if locale values that include an explicit (but redundant) character
 # set are supported by X11.



X Strike Force XFree86 SVN commit: r1812 - in trunk/debian: . local

2004-09-13 Thread X Strike Force SVN Repository Admin
Author: branden
Date: 2004-09-13 14:10:51 -0500 (Mon, 13 Sep 2004)
New Revision: 1812

Modified:
   trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
   trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml
Log:
(cosmetic) Add missing markup.


Modified: trunk/debian/CHANGESETS
===
--- trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-13 18:58:32 UTC (rev 1811)
+++ trunk/debian/CHANGESETS 2004-09-13 19:10:51 UTC (rev 1812)
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 files anywhere.)
 
 Miscellaneous cosmetic fixes.
-1811
+1811, 1812
 
 Update Danish debconf template translations (thanks, Claus Hindsgaul)
 1806

Modified: trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml
===
--- trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml2004-09-13 18:58:32 UTC (rev 1811)
+++ trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml2004-09-13 19:10:51 UTC (rev 1812)
@@ -1073,18 +1073,22 @@
 a getty on VC 7./p
 
 pIf you have increased your number of virtual consoles, or otherwise require 
VC
-7 for some purpose, simply edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and change the vt7
-argument on the :0 server line to whatever VC is appropriate for your
-machine (vt8, vt12, etc.).  Note that while the XFree86 manual page says that
-if the vt argument is not specified, the X server will use the first
-available virtual console, it is not a good idea to omit this parameter when
-starting local X servers with xdm.  This is because even though xdm starts at
-the very end of the init sequence, well after the getty processes that manage
-the virtual consoles, some machines get through the init sequence so quickly
-that getty has not yet claimed its VC's before xdm starts.  This leads to
-exactly the same kind of console lockup you get as if you deliberately tell
-getty (via /etc/inittab) and xdm (via /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers) to use the same
-virtual console for their respective tasks./p
+7 for some purpose, simply edit code
+class=filespec/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers/code and change the vt7 argument on
+the :0 server line to whatever VC is appropriate for your machine (vt8, vt12,
+etc.).  Note that while the XFree86 manual page says that if the vt argument
+is not specified, the X server will use the first available virtual console, it
+is not a good idea to omit this parameter when starting local X servers with
+xdm.  This is because even though code class=commandxdm/code starts at 
the
+very end of the code class=commandinit/code sequence, well after the 
code
+class=commandgetty/code processes that manage the virtual consoles, some
+machines get through the init sequence so quickly that getty has not yet 
claimed
+its VC's before code class=commandxdm/code starts.  This leads to exactly
+the same kind of console lockup you get as if you deliberately tell code
+class=commandgetty/code (via code class=filespec/etc/inittab/code)
+and code class=commandxdm/code (via code
+class=filespec/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers/code) to use the same virtual console
+for their respective tasks./p
 
 h3a id=xclientasrootHow do I run an X client as root when the X session
 is run by a user?/a/h3
@@ -1371,22 +1375,23 @@
   internally./li
   liWhatever is running in the code class=commandxterm/code (like the
   shell) can be getting bogus information from the terminfo file for the
-  terminal type that xterm is using.  If your varTERM/var environment
-  variable is not set to code class=otherxterm/code, make sure you
-  understand why./li
+  terminal type that code class=commandxterm/code is using.  If your
+  varTERM/var environment variable is not set to code
+  class=otherxterm/code, make sure you understand why./li
   liIf you still haven't found satisfaction, you may have run up against the
   stone wall that is inherent in emulation./li
 /ul
 
-pFor some keys, due to frustrating historical practice, there is simply
-going to be incompatibility with the Linux console.  Why?  Because xterm
-was initially written to emulate a DEC VT100 terminal.  PC keyboards have many
-more keys than a VT100.  The PC keyboard resembles a VT220 keyboard much
-more closely.  That's why Linus Torvalds based the kernel console driver on
-VT220 emulation.  If you want xterm to behave more like the Linux console,
-use the terminal type code class=otherxterm-vt220/code.  What keys are
-affected by this historical incompatibility, and how do DEC VT220 and PC
-keyboards differ?  A lengthy explanation follows./p
+pFor some keys, due to frustrating historical practice, there is simply going
+to be incompatibility with the Linux console.  Why?  Because code
+class=commandxterm/code was initially written to emulate a DEC VT100
+terminal.  PC keyboards have many more keys than a VT100.  The PC keyboard
+resembles a VT220 keyboard much more closely.  That's why Linus Torvalds based
+the kernel console driver on VT220 emulation.  If you want code
+class=commandxterm/code to behave more like the Linux console, use the
+terminal type code class=otherxterm-vt220/code.  What keys are affected 
by
+this historical 

Bug#229850: DEFAULT_HORIZ_SYNC and DEFAULT_VERT_REFRESH still ignored (updated patch)

2004-09-13 Thread Jay Berkenbilt


   The X Strike Force, including Fabio Massimo Di Nitto (our XFree86 package
   release manager) and myself are trying to see to it that 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8
   makes it into sarge.

   Some changes for -7 were deferred to -8 due to the massive number of
   changes in -7.

Thanks for the update, and for mentioning trying to get -8 into
Sarge.  I noticed that the bug wasn't fixed for -7 and that it had
been pushed to -8 in the to do list along with several other debconf
changes.  If you're interested in help with testing, please let me
know and I'll see what I can do.  Thanks for all you do and for
finding the time to keep me informed through all of it.

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Bug#263073: xlibs: Super still Super+Hyper

2004-09-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 09:03:46AM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) writes:
 
  On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +, Tim Bagot wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  Sawfish maintainer, do you believe that this bug should be cloned and
  reassigned to sawfish?
 
 No I don't think thi is a bug in sawfish (never seen this problem
 before, never reported and this work with my keyboard) i think the
 problem come from GNOME which modify the keyborad layout without asking
 something to users.
 
 See bugs  #250814, #251116, #251126, #251127, #251168, #251406,
 #251542,#245848, #242932
 
 Should be fixed soon...
 
 Tim could you try to reconfigure your keyboard in the control center ?
 Keyborad icon and layouts tab.
 
 Denis if you reassign this bug to the capplets package change the
 severity to important nad merge with others bugs.

Christian, thanks for your reply, but I believe that sawfish will still
have trouble when capplets is fixed.  The attached test-sawfish-mods.c
file helped me to understand how sawfish (and emacs) manage modifiers.
It is copied from src/keys.c

  $ setxkbmap -layout us -model pc105 -option 
  $ ./test-sawfish-mods
  Keysym Alt_L column: 0   keycode=0x40 pos: 0
  Keysym Meta_L column: 0   keycode=0x40 pos: 1
  Keysym Alt_L column: 1   keycode=0x7d pos: 1
  Keysym Meta_L column: 2   keycode=0x9c pos: 1
  Keysym Num_Lock column: 0   keycode=0x4d pos: 0
  Keysym Super_L column: 0   keycode=0x7f pos: 1
  Keysym Hyper_L column: 1   keycode=0x80 pos: 1
  Up to 4 symbols per modifier
alt_mod=8
meta_mod=8
super_mod=64
hyper_mod=64

The 2 last lines are important, they show that the direct_modifiers
function (also in src/keys.c) won't catch Super_* modifiers because
it contains:
if (hyper_mod != 0  (mods  EV_MOD_HYPER))
mods = (mods  ~EV_MOD_HYPER) | hyper_mod;
if (super_mod != 0  (mods  EV_MOD_SUPER))
mods = (mods  ~EV_MOD_SUPER) | super_mod;

As hyper_mod is equal to super_mod, the mods variable is modified after
the first test and the second test fails.  And this is indeed what I
observed: if you set binding modifier to Super, tabbing does not work,
but it works when set to Hyper with this X setting and also with
altwin:super_win option.

Some people claim that Super and Hyper should not be bound to the same
modifier to be ICCCM-compliant, but here is the relevant part from this
spec:
  Clients should determine the meaning of a modifier bit from the
  KeySyms being used to control it.
They argue that the current 'us' default breaks this rule, and at the
same time add tricks to work around problems in their implementation
when Alt and Meta are bound to the same modifier.
The other point of view is that this sentence only tells that applications
should not hardcode mod1-5 but use KeySyms instead.

My previous patch discards keysyms when it is a fake key (ie. no
symbol is found at position 0).  It should work quite well, but a
better fix is to let XKB query modifiers when XKB is in use, I
will try this path.

Denis
#include stdio.h
#include X11/Xlib.h
#include X11/keysym.h

#define PRINT(s) fprintf(stderr, Keysym %s column: %d   keycode=0x%x pos: %d\n, \
s, col, code, code_col)

/*  Copied from sawfish/src/keys.c (find_meta)
Compile with:
   gcc -Wall -o test-sawfish-mods test-sawfish-mods.c \
   -I/usr/X11R6/include -L /usr/X11R6/lib -lX11
 */

int
main(void)
{
Display *display = XOpenDisplay(:0);
int min_code, max_code;
KeySym *syms;
int syms_per_code;
XModifierKeymap *mods;
unsigned int num_lock_mod, scroll_lock_mod;
unsigned int meta_mod, alt_mod, hyper_mod, super_mod;

meta_mod = alt_mod = hyper_mod = super_mod = 0;
num_lock_mod = scroll_lock_mod = 0;
XDisplayKeycodes (display, min_code, max_code);
syms = XGetKeyboardMapping (display, min_code, max_code - min_code + 1,
syms_per_code);
mods = XGetModifierMapping (display);
{
int row, col;

for (row = 3; row  8; row++)
{
for (col = 0; col  mods-max_keypermod; col++)
{
int code_col;
KeyCode code = mods-modifiermap[(row * mods-max_keypermod)
+ col];
if (code == 0)
continue;
for (code_col = 0; code_col  syms_per_code; code_col++)
{
int sym = syms[((code - min_code) * syms_per_code)
  + code_col];
switch (sym)
{
case XK_Meta_L:
meta_mod = 1  row;
PRINT(Meta_L);
break;
case XK_Meta_R:
meta_mod = 1  row;
PRINT(Meta_R);
break;
case XK_Alt_L:
alt_mod = 1  row;

Bug#263073: xlibs: Super still Super+Hyper

2004-09-13 Thread Christian Marillat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) writes:

 On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 09:03:46AM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) writes:

[...]

 Christian, thanks for your reply, but I believe that sawfish will still
 have trouble when capplets is fixed.  The attached test-sawfish-mods.c
 file helped me to understand how sawfish (and emacs) manage modifiers.
 It is copied from src/keys.c

Frankly you need to understand that sawfish is dead. So I'm just fixing
important bug report and this one is not an important bug report.

So you can do what you want with this bug report I'll simply ignore this
bug.

Christian



Bug#253607: #253607: xserver-xfree86: (debconf) X 4.3.0 is perfectly capable of detecting monitor resolutions, debconf should ask only if needed

2004-09-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:51:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:13:23PM -0700, Daniel Stone wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:32:49PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
   My only concern about that approach is we'd better be damn sure starting X
   doesn't lock up people's machines, especially on our more exotic
   architectures.  discover and mdetect don't, and read-edid only seems to
   hurt x86 users with buggy hardware.
  
  If you have an i855 or such, try running 'X :1 -probeonly -ac' some day,
  when you have an X session already running.
 
 I don't own any x86 hardware and do not have access to a box with this
 chipset.
 
 Please describe what happens when this is done.

Your current X session dies, and there's a kernel message from the DRM
module about how it tried to allocate 64MB of ram and only got 58, or
such.

Doing a simple DDC probe doesn't seem to do any damage.

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Bug#24192: old books

2004-09-13 Thread Adam Weinberger
Dear Dr. Boggs,

  I purchased some early printed books in Florida with
a bookplate of Ralph Boggs.  I was wondering if they
were from your family , and if so, if you have any
others.  I am a dealer in rare books from Israel.

I await your kind reply.

Thank you, Adam Weinberger



Bug#271599: defaults to wrong video card driver

2004-09-13 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: xserver-xfree86
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
Severity: wishlist

The Select the desired X server driver question defaults to
vesa, but when X starts (via gdm), it displays a blank, black
screen.

When I reconfigure X to use the i810 driver, it displays the gdm
login dialog.

The card appears to be detected by discover:

 $ discover --version
 discover version 1.6.6
 $ discover --disable=serial,parallel --format=%V %M\t%S\t%D\n video
 Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]   XFree86 i810

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Bug#271485: xlibosmesa-dev: No manual pages or any other info

2004-09-13 Thread Ilya Anfimov
Package: xlibosmesa-dev
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4
Severity: normal



  I didn't found information
about OSMEsaCreateContext and othe offscreen
stuff in this package or other
mesa and gl development packages. 
  I saw description of off-screen rendering,
it comes with Mesa tarballs, perhaps in form of README file,
and i think it should be somewhere around osmesa-dev packages
in Debian.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-386
Locale: LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R, LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.KOI8-R

Versions of packages xlibosmesa-dev depends on:
ii  libc6-dev [libc-dev]  2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Development Librari
ii  mesag-dev [libgl-dev] 5.0.0-5.1  Development library for Mesa
ii  xlibosmesa4   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Mesa off-screen rendering library 

-- no debconf information



Bug#271525: xserver-xfree86: Modes should have default depending upon mode-list

2004-09-13 Thread Laurent Martelli
Package: xserver-xfree86
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
Severity: normal

I selected 1024 x 768 @ 75hz from the mode list, but in the next
question (xserver-xfree86/config/display/modes), only 800x600 and
640x480 were checked. I think it would be nice if the highest resolution
were checked automatically depending on our choice to the monitor
question. 

-- Package-specific info:
Contents of /var/lib/xfree86/X.roster:
xserver-xfree86

/etc/X11/X target unchanged from checksum in /var/lib/xfree86/X.md5sum.

X server symlink status:
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2004-09-13 18:39 /etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/X11/XFree86
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1745484 2004-09-06 13:16 /usr/bin/X11/XFree86

Contents of /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.roster:
xserver-xfree86

VGA-compatible devices on PCI bus:
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]

/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum does not exist.

XFree86 X server configuration file status:
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3667 2004-09-13 17:58 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Contents of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the
# ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section Files
#FontPath   unix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadrecord
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout fr
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/psaux
Option  Protocol  PS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  SendCoreEventstrue
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Savage
Driver  savage
Option  UseBIOS   false
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Savage TV
Driver  savage
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  LCD
HorizSync   30-57
VertRefresh 43-72
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Savage
Monitor LCD
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Virtual 1024 768
Modes   1024x768i 800x600
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Virtual 1024 768
Modes   1024x768 800x600
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  TV Screen
Device  Savage TV
Monitor LCD
DefaultDepth24

Bug#271542: xlibs: Can't get Meta and Alt to work correctly

2004-09-13 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
Package: xlibs
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
Severity: normal

In continuation of my message in bug 256706. As it has been declared
fixed, but I still suffer keyboard problems, I suppose my problem is
_not_ the one of this bug. Behaviour has changed since -6, but is
still not correct.

I have a Microsoft Natural Keyboard, US qwerty. That's a qwerty 104
keys keyboard.

Intended behaviour: Alt keys are Alt, left waving flag key is Meta,
right waving flag key is compose (Multi_key), menu key is menu.

XKB config:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  microsoft
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  XkbOptionsaltwin:left_meta_win,compose:rwin
EndSection

When starting up X, the following behaviour happens:

 - Emacs does not recognise Meta as Meta, but recognises Alt as Meta,
   which it shouldn't. Note that if I remember well, Emacs
   automatically treats Alt as Meta if it thinks the current keymap
   does not have a Meta. This might be what is happening.

 - TeXmacs recognises Alt as Alt, but not Meta.

 - sawfish does not recognise Alt as Alt, but recognises Meta as Meta.

Which makes me very confused as to what could be wrong.

At startup:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap
xmodmap:  up to 5 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4Alt_R (0x71),  Meta_L (0x73),  Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80),  
Meta_L (0x9c)
mod5Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

Trying to correct it manually:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap -e 'clear mod1'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = 0x73'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap
xmodmap:  up to 5 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1s (0x27)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4Alt_R (0x71),  Meta_L (0x73),  Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80),  
Meta_L (0x9c)
mod5Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

Oups... It shouldn't say 0x27 for mod1, I said 0x73. Let's try another way:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap -e 'clear mod1'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = Meta_L'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmodmap
xmodmap:  up to 5 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Meta_L (0x73),  Meta_L (0x9c)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4Alt_R (0x71),  Meta_L (0x73),  Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80),  
Meta_L (0x9c)
mod5Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

Not what I asked for.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.5-64bit
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Versions of packages xlibs depends on:
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System Session Management
ii  libx11-6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxft1   4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii  libxi64.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System Input extension li
ii  libxmu6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System miscellaneous util
ii  libxmuu1  4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 lightweight X Window System miscel
ii  libxp64.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System printing extension
ii  libxpm4   4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X pixmap library
ii  libxrandr24.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System Resize, Rotate and
ii  libxt64.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Toolkit Intrinsics
ii  libxtrap6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System protocol-trapping 
ii  libxtst6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System event recording an
ii  xlibs-data4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System client data

-- no debconf information



Bug#253607: #253607: xserver-xfree86: (debconf) X 4.3.0 is perfectly capable of detecting monitor resolutions, debconf should ask only if needed

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:13:23PM -0700, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:32:49PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
  My only concern about that approach is we'd better be damn sure starting X
  doesn't lock up people's machines, especially on our more exotic
  architectures.  discover and mdetect don't, and read-edid only seems to
  hurt x86 users with buggy hardware.
 
 If you have an i855 or such, try running 'X :1 -probeonly -ac' some day,
 when you have an X session already running.

I don't own any x86 hardware and do not have access to a box with this
chipset.

Please describe what happens when this is done.

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Bug#253607: #253607: xserver-xfree86: (debconf) X 4.3.0 is perfectly capable of detecting monitor resolutions, debconf should ask only if needed

2004-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:12:07PM -0700, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:32:49PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
  Yes, somehow.  You don't provide any code, or anything beyond the barest
  sketch of a design really, so this is going to have to wait until after
  sarge.
 
 http://www.google.com/search?q=ddcprobe+source

This comment is too terse to be useful for me.  The top link is a set of
compiled RPMs for Caldera machines.  In reviewing a Red Hat Bugzilla entry
farther down the list, I see that ddcprobe may have as many problems as
read-edid.  Perhaps just different ones.  :-P

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Bug#11147: Fw: corbel

2004-09-13 Thread Carroll Watkins
Do you remember when I was telling you about that link I received?  
http://www.blueinternetzone.com/ref44.html
You can download dvd movies, full cd albums and stuff.  Even console video 
games.  So I've downloaded 5 video games  movies so far today :).
I can't wait untill you get a load of this selection of games  music  movies 
- it's nuts.
Theres this awsome section of the site that shows you how to burn the games  
music and movies to CD.
I'm having a quick bite to eat going overthe movie section at the moment, 
theres downloads in here to burn, movies I mean, that are still in theaters - 
talk about awsome.
I'll talk to you soon.

Milagros


Bug#263073: xlibs: Super still Super+Hyper

2004-09-13 Thread Christian Marillat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) writes:

 On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +, Tim Bagot wrote:

[...]

 Sawfish maintainer, do you believe that this bug should be cloned and
 reassigned to sawfish?

No I don't think thi is a bug in sawfish (never seen this problem
before, never reported and this work with my keyboard) i think the
problem come from GNOME which modify the keyborad layout without asking
something to users.

See bugs  #250814, #251116, #251126, #251127, #251168, #251406,
#251542,#245848, #242932

Should be fixed soon...

Tim could you try to reconfigure your keyboard in the control center ?
Keyborad icon and layouts tab.

Denis if you reassign this bug to the capplets package change the
severity to important nad merge with others bugs.

Christian



Bug#271235: I can confirm this problem

2004-09-13 Thread Eric Valette
I just wondered why mozilla-mplayer was not working anymore and found 
also that the xv in vo line was the cause of it.


-- eric



Bug#271439: xlibmesa-gl: OpenGL apps. freeze when resuming.

2004-09-13 Thread Mohammed Sameer
Package: xlibmesa-gl
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4
Severity: important


After I suspend/resume
$ glxinfo | grep -i rendering
direct rendering: Yes

But glxgears and any other OpenGL apps freeze.
i810 driver

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-686-Uniball-1
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

Versions of packages xlibmesa-gl depends on:
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-16   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m

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Bug#263073: xlibs: Super still Super+Hyper

2004-09-13 Thread Tim Bagot
Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tim could you try to reconfigure your keyboard in the control center ?
 Keyborad icon and layouts tab.

The layout is set correctly (generic 105-key, UK). There were no layout
options selected. Adding Super is mapped to the Win-keys (default).
didn't seem to do anything.

I see the problem with Emacs if I run it in a bare second X session.
Would it be worth my trying the same with Sawfish?


Tim Bagot



Bug#270810: capplets: gnome-keyboard-properties does not load us_intl

2004-09-13 Thread Stefan Kluth
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Denis Barbier wrote:

 reassign 270810 xlibs
 tags 270810 - l10n
 clone 270810 -1
 severity 270810 normal
 retitle 270810 /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86 does not list all old layout files
 severity -1 wishlist
 retitle -1 Please add a multi-layout version of us_intl
 thanks

 Stefan Kluth wrote:
  The gnome keyboard preferences panel, accessed through the keyboard
  indicator applet, does not manage to load us_intl as keyboard layout.
  Instead, a error report window pops up, but the content is not helpful.

 Please discard my previous comments, I had a closer look to this issue
 and found that:
   a. XFree86 upstream introduced a multi-layout version of us_intl
  after 4.3.0
   b. Some old layout keymaps are not listed in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86

 For these reasons, I reassign this bugreport to xlibs, and will provide
 patches for both issues very soon.

Thanks a lot for your efforts ... I almost expected that capplets keyboard
indicator was not to blame and I was shooting the messenger but I don't
know the system well enough to be able to track this down.

Cheers, Stefan

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