Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 22:34:42 +0100, Osvaldo La Rosa wrote: a blind friend of mine does not use any monitor. Until now he was able to use he's previously installed Debian Gnu/Linux system, without screen connected. Since he changed the motherboard, the system was able to boot, but no longer able to switch from x to console ! Solution: he bought a monitor and now it does works, but ... let me say this is an expensive solution, isn't it ? The solution: plese do urgently implement xorg to be able to boot without any monitor connected: - useful for blind users - useful for people using PC's remotely as server. BTW why does this had worked before ? is it a feature that was deleted inside Xorg recently ? It should now be possible to force an output/connector as connected in xorg.conf, which would make X start up at 1024x768 on it (since xserver 1.9). Closing as fixed. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Hi Cyril: On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 01:38:50AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (30/11/2010): Hope this helps! sure, that seems to confirm that the underlying issue is the following: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Could you please ask your friend to try with such contents for /etc/X11/xorg.conf? | Section Device | Identifier Card0 | Driver dummy | EndSection (with the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver installed, and without any monitor connected). That seems to do the job here (even though I can't really disconnect my laptop's integrated screen). If that fails, please send the new xorg log. Sorry it doesn't work: - Gnome session starts okay, - Orca (screen reader) starts too - but he's NOT authorized to switch from Gnome to any console (ctrl+alt+f*) and that was the orig. problem he pointed me to submit a reportbug for. See 2 files in attach to complete this feedback. O. La Rosa. X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10.lenny3) Current Operating System: Linux unknown0002448cdb3d 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 01:53:57 UTC 2010 i686 Build Date: 25 September 2010 12:05:44PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Dec 1 18:26:15 2010 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Configured Monitor (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen. Using the first device section listed. (**) | |--Device Card0 (==) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (==) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout. Using the first mouse device. (==) The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout. Using the first keyboard device. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) No FontPath specified. Using compiled-in default. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi (==) RgbPath set to /etc/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) Loader magic: 0x81e3800 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 2.0 X.Org XInput driver : 2.0 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,29c0 card 1043,82b0 rev 10 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,29c2 card 1043,82b0 rev 10 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1b:0: chip 8086,27d8 card 1043,83b7 rev 01 class 04,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1c:0: chip 8086,27d0 card , rev 01 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1c:1: chip 8086,27d2 card , rev 01 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,27c8 card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,27c9 card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,27ca card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:3: chip 8086,27cb card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,27cc card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev e1 class 06,04,01 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,27b8 card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,27df card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,27c0 card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 01,01,8f hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,27da card 1043,8179 rev 01 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1969,1026 card 1043,831c rev b0 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
I will ask to that person to send 2 logs: one without any mon connected, and one with hte mon physically connected. Aldo. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 01:38:07AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (26/11/2010): That package was already installed, but it seems not to work for this issue; the only thing that works is connecting a REAL monitor. what if this driver is configured in xorg.conf? The person I meaned is a friend of mine, he's blind and maybe that explains why he wasn't using a monitor but instead a braille-display running brltty. Now he connected a freshly bought mon, Xorg does work again as by the past, he can now switch from Gnome to console and viceversa. I still have to see a log of Xorg failing to start. If you're not interested in helping us debug this issue, I'm just going to close this bug — I can't see what else I could do. Mraw, KiBi. -- Dig that crazy beat on the drums: VINUX !!! The best is getting better! --http://vinux.org.uk-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-x-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101130185402.gh3...@jupiter
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Hi, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (30/11/2010): Hope this helps! sure, that seems to confirm that the underlying issue is the following: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Could you please ask your friend to try with such contents for /etc/X11/xorg.conf? | Section Device | Identifier Card0 | Driver dummy | EndSection (with the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver installed, and without any monitor connected). That seems to do the job here (even though I can't really disconnect my laptop's integrated screen). If that fails, please send the new xorg log. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Hello, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (26/11/2010): That package was already installed, but it seems not to work for this issue; the only thing that works is connecting a REAL monitor. what if this driver is configured in xorg.conf? The person I meaned is a friend of mine, he's blind and maybe that explains why he wasn't using a monitor but instead a braille-display running brltty. Now he connected a freshly bought mon, Xorg does work again as by the past, he can now switch from Gnome to console and viceversa. I still have to see a log of Xorg failing to start. If you're not interested in helping us debug this issue, I'm just going to close this bug — I can't see what else I could do. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Hi: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:48:12PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (25/11/2010): BTW why does this had worked before ? is it a feature that was deleted inside Xorg recently ? I haven't been around for long, so I can't really tell. Could you please get us an Xorg log when the issue happens? Maybe it's just about specifying a dummy monitor, maybe using the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver? That package was already installed, but it seems not to work for this issue; the only thing that works is connecting a REAL monitor. The person I meaned is a friend of mine, he's blind and maybe that explains why he wasn't using a monitor but instead a braille-display running brltty. Now he connected a freshly bought mon, Xorg does work again as by the past, he can now switch from Gnome to console and viceversa. O. La Rosa. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-x-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101126195959.gc4...@jupiter
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Package: Xorg Version: 1:7.3+20 Severity: wishlist Hello Xorg team, a blind friend of mine does not use any monitor. Until now he was able to use he's previously installed Debian Gnu/Linux system, without screen connected. Since he changed the motherboard, the system was able to boot, but no longer able to switch from x to console ! Solution: he bought a monitor and now it does works, but ... let me say this is an expensive solution, isn't it ? The solution: plese do urgently implement xorg to be able to boot without any monitor connected: - useful for blind users - useful for people using PC's remotely as server. BTW why does this had worked before ? is it a feature that was deleted inside Xorg recently ? Greetings, Osvaldo. -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.6 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=nl_BE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages Xorg depends on: ii gnome-terminal [x-terminal-em 2.22.3-3 The GNOME 2 terminal emulator appl ii libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1] 7.0.3-7A free implementation of the OpenG ii libglu1-mesa 7.0.3-7The OpenGL utility library (GLU) ii x11-apps 7.3+4 X applications ii x11-session-utils 7.3+1 X session utilities ii x11-utils 7.3+2+nmu1 X11 utilities ii x11-xfs-utils 7.3+1 X font server utilities ii x11-xkb-utils 7.4+1 X11 XKB utilities ii x11-xserver-utils 7.3+5 X server utilities ii xauth 1:1.0.3-2 X authentication utility ii xfonts-100dpi 1:1.0.0-4 100 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-75dpi 1:1.0.0-4 75 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-base 1:1.0.0-5 standard fonts for X ii xfonts-scalable 1:1.0.0-6 scalable fonts for X ii xfonts-utils 1:7.4+1X Window System font utility progr ii xinit 1.0.9-2X server initialisation tool ii xkb-data 1.3-2 X Keyboard Extension (XKB) configu ii xserver-xorg 1:7.3+20 the X.Org X server ii xterm [x-terminal-emulator] 235-2 X terminal emulator Versions of packages Xorg recommends: pn xorg-docs none (no description available) Xorg suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-x-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101125213442.4222.95598.report...@jupiter
Bug#604974: WISHLIST: does not start without monitor connected
Hi, Osvaldo La Rosa aldo.nos...@scarlet.be (25/11/2010): BTW why does this had worked before ? is it a feature that was deleted inside Xorg recently ? I haven't been around for long, so I can't really tell. Could you please get us an Xorg log when the issue happens? Maybe it's just about specifying a dummy monitor, maybe using the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
